Re: question about parasites

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In a message dated 4/16/03 12:54:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lmcmanus60@... writes:

> Can you explain the parasite cleanse? What is the name of a parasite

> cleanse product if that is what it is? Is the parasite cleanse the same

> thing as the colon cleanse? And what precautions do you mean that you take

> so that you do not have problems with parasites any more?

There is a big difference between a parasite cleanse and a bowel cleanse.

the parasites I was after live in the stomach, where a colon cleanse will not

help. the parasite cleanse also helped kill vermin in the colon, but does

not have the same laxative effects that a colon cleanse has.

the cleanse I did was using black walnut hull tincture, wormwood capsules and

cloves.

starting on day one I took one drop of tincture, one wormwood and one clove

(3 times) daily, until I had worked my way up to 7 capsules a day of wormwood

and 5 drops of tincture and 3 cloves (3 times) daily. then you go on the

weekly dose of t tsp. tincture, 7 wormwood and 3 cloves.

Maintenance I do is I de-parasite my pets, wash all my eggs before I cook

with them (the salmonella is only on the outside), boil my milk for a few

seconds to kill off bacteria, peel everything that has skin before I cook or

eat it, and keep my hands away from my face and mouth. I also use my zapper

which helps with parasite control.

Hanida

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In a message dated 3/18/2005 11:28:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

markjennings42@... writes:

> Could that be helping with the negative effects of the Keflex? Or -

> just good for the liver?

>

Hello Mark. Good to know you are getting better. Milk thistle is used and is

restorative for the liver. If you want to obtain a good book on herbs find a

copy of Duke's Green Pharmacy. It is terrific -- well researched and very

helpful.

Nothing I know of mitigates the ill effects of antibiotics except washing

your system in probiotics -- and sacchride boularidiis (just letting WIll know I

am paying attention to his probiotics discussion....)

Have you considered altering your lifestyle ? That will make a tremendous

difference. One idea is to find a substitute for coffee -- maybe black tea.

As you can see Will can be a font of info on specific subjects. I still urge

you to look through his past email messages where he addresses different

subjects like Infection and colon care and his 2005 dissolving plan (something

about keeping the boogey man away in 2005) and the like. He wrote several on

parasites in the fall.

Good luck on your research and I am glad you are better.

(Atlanta)

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Mark, antibiotics are very specific in their range of action, most kill either

Gram negative or Gram positive strains. Most, like penicillin came from a

natural source, a mold and it was a chemical the mold made to kill it's

competitors. The probiotics we discussed like Lactobacillus acidophilus make

their own very real antibiotics. L. acidophilus make ACIDOPHILIN which

specifically kills such nasties as Staph. aureus, Salmonella, and E. coli 0157.

There is no direct impact on PARASITES by antibiotics although it's possible

there is a slight negative effect in that the antibiotics weaken the immune

system and do serious damage to the beneficial bugs.

Which parasites are you most concerned about?

Will in Minnesota

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> Which parasites are you most concerned about?

>

> Will in Minnesota

Thanks, Will

There're no specific parasites I'm particularly worried about. I've

just read so much about them here, and the importance of getting that

taken care of before a flush attempt, as well as the kidney cleanse.

I was just hoping that since I'm having to take these things that I

might somehow be killing 2 birds with one stone. :-|

My sister (the RN) said that Keflex is a very good broad range

antibiotic. This is my 8th day on it (2 to go!) and tonight is my 3rd

night in a row without a fever from the (maybe no longer??) infected

gallbladder!

I " went " 3 times today! And to think that 2 weeks ago I'd have thought

of a person very strangely for saying that. HAHAHA!

Mark

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... oh yeah - after what you said about milk thistle, I went right out

and got some at the health food store and I'm taking them faithfully.

Could that be helping with the negative effects of the Keflex? Or -

just good for the liver?

[Guest guest]

Greetings All

I am happy to see so many of us looking at the other ways of doing things.

About parasites.

A healthy body will not let the parasites last too long because them

will thrive only in a unhealthy body....the key word here is thrive.

You can not go thru life not getting parasites, they are in too many

things. But, if your body is able to fight off the multiplying of them

then that is a good thing. If your body is not able to fight them off

then they the parasites as well as the Candida and other things, start

to overrun the body causing the many symptoms we see in ourselves daily!

Just remember your body as a machine like your car...if you do not put

in the correct things it runs poorly. The warning lights in the car are

like the things that go on in your body. Parasites are like one of the

warning lights in your car...something is needing attention.

The key to getting well is balance of the body!

Taking anti-biotics...( anti body is an appropriate word) weakens the

body because it kills both the good things and the bad things in the

body's systems.

I will upload or attach a recipe from another group of a simple natural

was to put the good stuff back into the body while doing what you have

to do with the antibiotics.

Many many people have used this and found it ok to great.

Believe it or not, parasites are a cause of many things but to have them

thrive is a symptom of a bigger problem...body unbalance. Many people

call it a weakened immune system. I just look at it as the body is over

worked because of all the things attacking it, just like in a war. You

can not have your troops spread out too thin and win when you are out

numbered.

Remember the body is busy all the time with minute to minute functions

and digesting, healing, growing hair, bile production, detoxing and the

list goes on and on. All of these tasks take energy/resources and if

there is only a limited amount to go around, the body has to chose which

task gets done and which does not. So that late night snack that

normally would have been digested and removed, in a sick body it will

not have the resources to do that function so it goes undone. Late

night snack times 3 or 4 or 5 per month, that is a big load on the

body...that alone could cause the body to weaken. Now just think how

many years your body has had to make choices on which things it must do

to survive...can you see the picture of build up!!!

I need to to stop here... :-)

If I go one I will be talking about the amount of water the body

needs..( one half of your body weight in ounces of water)

How the vitamins and minerals in a sick body can not be broken down and

more and more and more!!!

====>>

> Have you considered altering your lifestyle ? That will make a

tremendous

> difference. One idea is to find a substitute for coffee -- maybe

black tea.

====>>

I have one thing to say about this point. I personally thing that it

would be better to use Green tea when you consider altering your lifestyle.

It has less chemical processing I am told. The kind I drink is China

Green Tea Temple of Heaven Special Gunpowder. When I drink this tea it

will help remove the toxins from the body. One thing, you must be

drinking the right amount of water to help them get removed or it could

cause a problem of build-up. I know of this on a personal level. It

ain't fun.

Yours in good health

nieema

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Hi Mark,

You're definitely on your way to better health!

To add to the great replies you've already got, I'd stress that you

need to slowly and gently clean your colon out from 42 years of

accumulation. That alone will help your other organs including your

pancreas. The challenge is to avoid trying to do too much too

fast. If you did, that would be harder short term on your liver,

kidneys, and pancreas. You don't need that right now. You are wise

to support your liver with milk thistle seed. Your liver along with

your kidneys will be working harder as you clean your colon.

I can relate to your predicament growing up in the South East. I

live here too, and it's a challenge to eat right without becoming a

hermit from society Whole flax seed is one of my best friends,

because I can vary the amount each day or skip day(s) as necessary

(I grind it in a coffee grinder daily with my whole milk thistle

seed, fennel seed that I grow, lecithin granules, & psillium husks -

I add some turmeric & cayanne powder to this). I adjust this daily

to keep everything moving and working right, without doing too much

too fast. Sometimes I add olive oil and flax seed oil if I haven't

been getting enough good fats. Cleaning my " innards " is a long term

project for me unlike some of the more drastic colon flushes.

Speaking of parasites, I've payed a lot of attention to parasites

doing parasite cleanses with herbs and zapping with an electronic

device that will kill parasites in many parts but not in every place

in the body. If I had it to do over again, I'd start with colon

cleansing and concentrate on that mainly. The parasite cleansing is

partly done by colon cleansing. Either along with the colon

cleansing or after the colon cleansing is well on it's way, add the

parasite cleansing to aid the process. Does everyone have

parastites? I don't know. The problem is that a lot of people that

have them will never know it unless or until they do some kind of

diet change, lifestyle change or cleansing and see the results. For

that reason I have done parasite cleansing just to be sure. The

results of parasite cleansing are not always critters in the stool.

Unless you have diarreah, how do you know everything that is in your

stool? Sometimes just a bad cleansing feeling from the die off

signals they were there prior to a parasite cleanse. I can now do

the same parasite cleanses that used to give me flu symptoms and

sinus problems for days and not get severe symptoms. That tells me

two things: I had parasites, and now I don't have near as much as a

problem-if any.

Keep going in the right direction and you'll get there,

Vince

>

> Since I've had to take antibiotics for the infected gallbladder

(500

> mg. Keflex, 3 daily for 10 days) I was wondering ..... although

> antibiotics do some negative things, what about parasites? Do they

> also do something about that, too? (or anything else?)

>

> Mark

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" Hi Mark,

You're definitely on your way to better health! "

Thanks! I've needed to hear that the past couple of days. Some

of my friends and family are afraid I'm going to turn into a " health

guru. " If they only knew .....

" ...I'd stress that you need to slowly and gently clean your colon out

.... The challenge is to avoid trying to do too much too fast. If you

did, that would be harder short term on your liver, kidneys, and

pancreas. You don't need that right now. "

Thanks. More good, practical advice.

" I can relate to your predicament growing up in the South East. I

live here too, and it's a challenge to eat right without becoming a

hermit from society "

I hear ya! I don't know *what* I'm going to do at church suppers

and when the family reunions gear up this spring\summer. {:-| Where

are you? I live in rural Middle Tennessee.

Again, thanks for all the good advice. You're one of the people whose

e-mails I save

Mark

[Guest guest]

Thanks ! Very nice of you.

Mark

For Mark,

here's the long Dale interview as promised. I'm not sure if

you have gallstones but 80% of cases of pancreatitis are caused by

gallstones so happy long reading!

[Guest guest]

Hi Vince,

What do you do once these things are ground up - how do you " use " them.

Suzanne

--- " Vince Richter " <new_man85@h...> wrote:

>Whole flax seed is one of my best friends,

> because I can vary the amount each day or skip day(s) as necessary

> (I grind it in a coffee grinder daily with my whole milk thistle

> seed, fennel seed that I grow, lecithin granules, & psillium husks -

> I add some turmeric & cayanne powder to this). I adjust this daily

> to keep everything moving and working right, without doing too much

> too fast. Sometimes I add olive oil and flax seed oil if I haven't

> been getting enough good fats. Cleaning my " innards " is a long term

> project for me unlike some of the more drastic colon flushes.

[Guest guest]

I like 2 Tablespoons of ground up flax seeds mixed with 4 Tablespoons of

oat bran and a bit of low fat buttermilk and eat it like a snack

everyday and get my fiber, EFA's and good bacteria all at once.

I have flax oil in the mornings for breakfast in a shake with soy milk,

protein powder and a Tablespoon of black strap molasses for calcium,

potassium and iron.

[Guest guest]

Regarding your soy protien powder, you might be interested in what you discover

if you do a search on soy on google & learn about some of the negatives

regarding this food...or just visit WestonPrice site or Dr Mercola & many

similar for alternate views on Soy products...(or you might not

Remember the USA moiney men are very big on oilseed /Soy /Margarine( & more

recently Canola) ...the Soy is used for a many many products include beef cattle

fattening ..but with such a huge market there is always oversupply at times

....the health food industry was a good (sucker ) to offload a lot of it as well

....The USA marketing men are the best in the world at what they do..building

product brand & name recognition .. & then offloading massive amounts of product

too the world....There are so many ,many examples where the big money together

with the marketing men have displaced healthier products for a much unhealthier

/inferior product ( & cleaned up financially in the process of course )..here are

a few examples that touch on the subject at hand..(ie Soy)...

..... example : Healthy Coconut fat/Oil was displaced many years ago by

blended processed vegatable oils (including a lot of soy),...of course coconuts

were not grown in the USA(only predominanently in poor Asian countries) but a

lot of heck of a lot of oilseed/soy ( & now add canola) was grown in the USA.

.... : Healthier butter (very healthy when it was/is produced from raw

milk),was displaced many years ago by margarine (which is a chemically

manufactured from blended vegetable oils ..including a lot of soy..( & more

recently canola).

: Healthy Cattle which once roamed the grasslands & grazed all day are

now force fed in massive feed lots on a soy/grain/chemical mash feed, ( &

injected with as many antibiotics /steroids & misc weight gain agents as

necessary to maintain a facade of health).

: Vegetarians (still) seem to graze on manufactured/processed soy protien

foods (I personally dont regard the unprocessed soy foods in a much better light

....but thats just my opinion)...if you have to eat soy ...the experts seem to

agree the only soy product that can come close to being called a health aid ..is

the fermented soy products ..of these Tempeh is the pick of choice amongst what

is commonly available in Western shopping venues..(Tofu is not a fermented soy

product & is noit considered as being at the healthier end of the spectrum of

soy products)

The reason Tempeh is considered more favourably is because the act of

fermentation removes many/some of the negatives associated with Soy products

...(which I wont go into here since there is plenty of info available on the

internet for anyone who is really interested/concerned)...so Fermented soy is

considered relatively safe by the anti soy brigade (of which I include

myself..fwiw..LOL..in case it wasnt patently obvious)

O

----- Original Message -----

From: lightwalkercathy@...

gallstones

Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:38 AM

Subject: Re: Re: question about parasites

I like 2 Tablespoons of ground up flax seeds mixed with 4 Tablespoons of

oat bran and a bit of low fat buttermilk and eat it like a snack

everyday and get my fiber, EFA's and good bacteria all at once.

I have flax oil in the mornings for breakfast in a shake with soy milk,

protein powder and a Tablespoon of black strap molasses for calcium,

potassium and iron.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

Church suppers are actually one of the easiest places for me to eat

better when I'm not at home. There are usally lots of veggies (even

if they are " seasoned " with good tasting meat and fat), salads, and

meats. As in everything, I do the best I can with what I have

available at the time. I stay away from deep fried anything or high

carb stuff. The desert area is a definite no-no. No sweet or

artifically sweetened tea. Too many temptations I'm in rural

South Alabama close to Georgia and Florida. I favor all-you-can eat

restaurants when I eat out: not to overeat large quantities of food;

but to get the variety from which to choose some better food.

Vince

>

> " Hi Mark,

>

> You're definitely on your way to better health! "

>

> Thanks! I've needed to hear that the past couple of days.

Some

> of my friends and family are afraid I'm going to turn into

a " health

> guru. " If they only knew .....

>

> " ...I'd stress that you need to slowly and gently clean your colon

out

> ... The challenge is to avoid trying to do too much too fast. If

you

> did, that would be harder short term on your liver, kidneys, and

> pancreas. You don't need that right now. "

>

> Thanks. More good, practical advice.

>

> " I can relate to your predicament growing up in the South East. I

> live here too, and it's a challenge to eat right without becoming a

> hermit from society "

>

> I hear ya! I don't know *what* I'm going to do at church

suppers

> and when the family reunions gear up this spring\summer. {:-|

Where

> are you? I live in rural Middle Tennessee.

>

> Again, thanks for all the good advice. You're one of the people

whose

> e-mails I save

>

> Mark

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

I put the mixture in a large glass of 4 ozs kefir, 4 ozs kombucha

tea, and my liquid mineral dose for the day. I mix with a wooden

spoon handle and add water to top off the glass. A very refreshing

drink, but not the best tasting (not bad tasting either).

The mixture would go well in any drink.

BTW, first thing in the morning I have my fresh squeezed lemon in

warm water to flush and alkalinze my liver and kidneys. That's

supposed to be one of the best things we can do for our system in

every morning. It's certainly got to be the cheapest health aid

I've found too

Vince

> >Whole flax seed is one of my best friends,

> > because I can vary the amount each day or skip day(s) as

necessary

> > (I grind it in a coffee grinder daily with my whole milk thistle

> > seed, fennel seed that I grow, lecithin granules, & psillium

husks -

> > I add some turmeric & cayanne powder to this). I adjust this

daily

> > to keep everything moving and working right, without doing too

much

> > too fast. Sometimes I add olive oil and flax seed oil if I

haven't

> > been getting enough good fats. Cleaning my " innards " is a long

term

> > project for me unlike some of the more drastic colon flushes.

[Guest guest]

That sounds like it's got to be good for you, .

Vince

> I like 2 Tablespoons of ground up flax seeds mixed with 4

Tablespoons of

> oat bran and a bit of low fat buttermilk and eat it like a snack

> everyday and get my fiber, EFA's and good bacteria all at once.

>

> I have flax oil in the mornings for breakfast in a shake with soy

milk,

> protein powder and a Tablespoon of black strap molasses for

calcium,

> potassium and iron.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm already quite aware of soy and what the internet has said. I repeat

here again, I drink 1 cup of soy milk per day. The protein powder is a

mixture of different kinds, not just soy. The reports are based upon

more than 1 cup of soy milk per day. I plan on switching to another type

of powder once this container is empty. It's not all soy, there are

peas, beans etc in the mix. It's a Vegetable protein.

[Guest guest]

No problem .. ...I have no way of knowing if you or others are aware of the Soy

Debate ..so I offer the information out there ...my war is with the marketers

who dupe the world with unhealthy (crap plastic food) ..not you ...by helping

hopefully to make people more aware of alternate info...we weaken the hold the

plastic food people have over most of western civilised countries atm.

I was duped by the Soy marketing machine for many years & believed that soy

milk etc were healthy option (I even once used too use margarine shock horror) &

I believe these dietry additions helped set me back healthwise many years

ago...so I dont mind seeing this lobby group weakened..it only happens by

spreading the information around the internet.

If you are aware of the Soy debate & still elect to eat it ..thats fine

....its your choice ..my message is for the many who still think havn't heard

both sides of the argument...

O

----- Original Message -----

From: lightwalkercathy@...

gallstones

Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:49 AM

Subject: Re: Re: question about parasites

I'm already quite aware of soy and what the internet has said. I repeat

here again, I drink 1 cup of soy milk per day. The protein powder is a

mixture of different kinds, not just soy. The reports are based upon

more than 1 cup of soy milk per day. I plan on switching to another type

of powder once this container is empty. It's not all soy, there are

peas, beans etc in the mix. It's a Vegetable protein.