Re: Jen

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Hi Jen,

Just got back from Dr. Leu's office. He is going to test her female

hormones (yes, she's only 12), stool test and a CBC. She has a virus that

is clearing up nicely but she always seems to get sick after her monthly

cycle. In addition to that, she bleeds very heavily for 7 days. She was on

antibiotics a lot as a baby and also an extremely one for a month a few

months ago for a sinus infection. He said that people with a heavy yeast

load will develop more sinusitis. That certainly was true for me when I had

a lot of yeast. He couldn't believe that her pediatrician never checked her

for yeast. I took her in because she thought she had a yeast infection.

The doc looked at her and said that because she wasn't sexually active, she

didn't have a yeast infection! Dr. Leu was appalled because that of course

isn't true. He said to wait on the Organic Acid Urine test. He said he

would run it on her if he couldn't clearly see what is going on with her

when he gets the results back from the above tests. Also, what is strange

is that she has had a weird foot rash since she was very young. Her

pediatrician never knew what it was. Dr. Leu looked at it and said it was

definitely fungal and goes along with her yeast problems.

So, we'll find out about her long periods, the yeast load and what her blood

counts are. The funny thing, or not so funny really, is that her

pediatrician actually suggested putting her on birth control if her periods

continued to be so hard. Geez.

Can't wait to get her tests done and back!

I've been having hot flashes again so I asked him about that. I had them

for a few months and he put me on hormones and they went away, until now! I

have been drinking caffeinated ice tea some so I haven't taken my adrenal

supplements because both can wire me, especially if combined. I didn't

realize that the adrenal supplement also feeds the female hormones. Duh!!

I caused these hot flashes by not taking the adrenal supplement for the last

few days. Just shoot me!

Kenda

[Guest guest]

Thanks I find that all so interesting, I'm sure he will get her on

her way to feeling great, was this her first time seeing him? Its

crazy what some MD's will do!!! yikes BCP at 12?! Anyway I know I

will also be a test junkie & I'm trying to decide what test to ask

him for next

I can barely stand to wait for my Organix results to come back, the

suspense is killing me and I still have awhile to wait

Jen

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> Just got back from Dr. Leu's office. He is going to test her

female

> hormones (yes, she's only 12), stool test and a CBC. She has a

virus that

> is clearing up nicely but she always seems to get sick after her

monthly

> cycle. In addition to that, she bleeds very heavily for 7 days.

She was on

> antibiotics a lot as a baby and also an extremely one for a month

a few

> months ago for a sinus infection. He said that people with a

heavy yeast

> load will develop more sinusitis. That certainly was true for me

when I had

> a lot of yeast. He couldn't believe that her pediatrician never

checked her

> for yeast. I took her in because she thought she had a yeast

infection.

> The doc looked at her and said that because she wasn't sexually

active, she

> didn't have a yeast infection! Dr. Leu was appalled because that

of course

> isn't true. He said to wait on the Organic Acid Urine test. He

said he

> would run it on her if he couldn't clearly see what is going on

with her

> when he gets the results back from the above tests. Also, what is

strange

> is that she has had a weird foot rash since she was very young.

Her

> pediatrician never knew what it was. Dr. Leu looked at it and said

it was

> definitely fungal and goes along with her yeast problems.

>

> So, we'll find out about her long periods, the yeast load and what

her blood

> counts are. The funny thing, or not so funny really, is that her

> pediatrician actually suggested putting her on birth control if

her periods

> continued to be so hard. Geez.

>

> Can't wait to get her tests done and back!

>

> I've been having hot flashes again so I asked him about that. I

had them

> for a few months and he put me on hormones and they went away,

until now! I

> have been drinking caffeinated ice tea some so I haven't taken my

adrenal

> supplements because both can wire me, especially if combined. I

didn't

> realize that the adrenal supplement also feeds the female

hormones. Duh!!

> I caused these hot flashes by not taking the adrenal supplement

for the last

> few days. Just shoot me!

>

> Kenda

[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot, he also put her on Andrographis. It was her first official visit with him. He has prescribed things for viruses but I have never taken her in for general health care. I’m so disgusted with her pediatrician’s office that I will use Dr. Leu more for her care. I like her main doc but he doesn’t see her for female type problems, he sends her to a female doc in the practice. I was shocked when she suggested the BCP for , as was Dr. Leu. I’m anxious to see what her hormones are like.

He told me yesterday that he has tests I have never done, I was so shocked. I remember the Organix test results took longer than some of the others to come back. Has he suggested any additional tests for you?

Kenda

Thanks I find that all so interesting, I'm sure he will get her on

her way to feeling great, was this her first time seeing him? Its

crazy what some MD's will do!!! yikes BCP at 12?! Anyway I know I

will also be a test junkie & I'm trying to decide what test to ask

him for next

I can barely stand to wait for my Organix results to come back, the

suspense is killing me and I still have awhile to wait

Jen

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <kdskaggs@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Jen,

>

> Just got back from Dr. Leu's office. He is going to test her

female

> hormones (yes, she's only 12), stool test and a CBC. She has a

virus that

> is clearing up nicely but she always seems to get sick after her

monthly

> cycle. In addition to that, she bleeds very heavily for 7 days.

She was on

> antibiotics a lot as a baby and also an extremely one for a month

a few

> months ago for a sinus infection. He said that people with a

heavy yeast

> load will develop more sinusitis. That certainly was true for me

when I had

> a lot of yeast. He couldn't believe that her pediatrician never

checked her

> for yeast. I took her in because she thought she had a yeast

infection.

> The doc looked at her and said that because she wasn't sexually

active, she

> didn't have a yeast infection! Dr. Leu was appalled because that

of course

> isn't true. He said to wait on the Organic Acid Urine test. He

said he

> would run it on her if he couldn't clearly see what is going on

with her

> when he gets the results back from the above tests. Also, what is

strange

> is that she has had a weird foot rash since she was very young.

Her

> pediatrician never knew what it was. Dr. Leu looked at it and said

it was

> definitely fungal and goes along with her yeast problems.

>

> So, we'll find out about her long periods, the yeast load and what

her blood

> counts are. The funny thing, or not so funny really, is that her

> pediatrician actually suggested putting her on birth control if

her periods

> continued to be so hard. Geez.

>

> Can't wait to get her tests done and back!

>

> I've been having hot flashes again so I asked him about that. I

had them

> for a few months and he put me on hormones and they went away,

until now! I

> have been drinking caffeinated ice tea some so I haven't taken my

adrenal

> supplements because both can wire me, especially if combined. I

didn't

> realize that the adrenal supplement also feeds the female

hormones. Duh!!

> I caused these hot flashes by not taking the adrenal supplement

for the last

> few days. Just shoot me!

>

> Kenda

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Here's the link again.

Make sure you drink half of your body weight in ounces

in water a day.

Eliminate junk food from your diet, crackers pretzels,

potato chips, cookies.

Eliminate refined sugar from your diet.

Sugar can cause gallstones, not that that's what you

have but tests have shown nothing for me either and I

had gallstone symptoms.

Could be sludge which the flush will help with.

The link I gave you above has info on exactly how to

do the cleanses also.

Good luck!

--- L L <xairai18@...> wrote:

> Hi Jen

> My pain started in my right side under the rib. It

> was there for so long, like 6 years, but also I had

> developed more problems. Docs thought I had MS,

> FMS, chronic fatigue. They put me through hell- but

> I went to a Health food store, and a japanese lady

> told me about Dr Hulda and copied her flush

> out of s book Cure for all Diseases. I was

> gung ho until I saw that she suggests the parasite

> cleanse first. So back to the store I went- and

> found a product with the three herbs (black walnut

> green hull, clove, and wormwood). When I started

> with this, all my pains turned into itches. I was

> so relieved tho! It is really a fascinating thing,

> considering I couldn't even brush my daughter's hair

> or get out of bed for more than 10 min at a time

> without suffering. Those herbs, alone helped with a

> bunch of different problems. I sleep normal, bm

> normal, face cleared, joints quit hurting, lost

> weight. I dont know if other people have such

> awesome results, but I did. It

> changed my life, and I actually had a second baby,

> which I was too afraid to do before cause of my

> pain. I can do things now that I haven't done in

> years. People who know me are all trippin cause

> they see the difference, but if you do cleanse, try

> to clean up diet too- I went so far as to read

> ingredients on shampoos, soaps, etc. Cure for all

> Diseases is an awesome, a bit off the wall book. Dr

> believes alot of things are bad for us, but

> when I cleaned up as much as possible, I had great

> results. She rocks cause her info is online

> everywhere, and you dont have to pay her to feel

> better. After I had my baby, I trashed my body

> again with the toxins and stuff. I was able to eat

> alot of the crud I wouldn't touch before. So here

> I am again, on my third week of para cleansing with

> ParaGone. I dread the olive oil flush, but I also

> look forward to it cause I know I will feel even

> better.

> READ and go with your gut LOL

> seriously though.

> I know alot of people with FMS that see me feeling

> better, and they still wont do this. I stress, it

> won't hurt, it's just icky.

> And the health department here thinks Dr. is a

> witchdoctor and wont accept her protocol. They

> would rather be ignorant than to even research, but

> experience is the best teacher...

> Jen Doutt <glitterprincess1978@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone, my name is Jen and I'm 26 years old. I

> believe this is my first post. I've been reading

> posts and finally got into the files section of the

> group, where I read " Journey to the Center of your

> Colon. " OMG! After reading that I want to do a

> colon cleanse like NOW. I started having heartburn

> about 5 years ago, and getting it on a regular basis

> (3-5 times a week or more) probably about a year

> ago; honestly I wasn't keeping track. Well, the end

> of April I started having really bad abdominal pain

> which I thought was my gallbladder. My mom had

> gallbladder problems and she said that my symptoms

> were pretty much identical to hers. I finally

> couldn't take it anymore and ended up in the ER one

> Sunday night. They couldn't figure anything out so

> they wrote an order for a sonogram to be done the

> next day, which showed nothing. About a week later

> they did a Hydascan (sp?). I don't know how many of

> you have had that done...but what they do is inject

> you with radioactive

> materials (yuck) so that your liver and gallbladder

> show up on this scan, and then they inject you with

> some drug that forces your gallbladder to expel the

> materials so they can see how well it's functioning.

> I was told it's the equivalent of eating a really

> fatty meal. IT HURT. Not so bad that I couldn't

> stand it but it hurt. My roommate was horrified

> when I told her that. She was like " I don't have

> any pain when I eat something like that! " Well,

> once again they found nothing wrong. So, they sent

> me to a Gastroenterologist who did an Endoscopy.

> This was nearly 5 weeks after I first went to the

> doctor, mind you. He found " mild stomach

> irritation. " Honestly, before I had that test done

> I didn't know that they stomach is actually in the

> upper left of the abdomen, I thought it was in the

> middle. So once I saw the diagram I realized that

> by that point the pain was exactly where the diagram

> said my stomach was! In the beginning it was from

> the right side of my back, around to

> the front and across to my stomach. I missed so

> much work and was so miserable for so long, and for

> them to find NOTHING. The Gastroenterologist said

> it was probably stress. I hate to tell him, but I'm

> under less stress now than I have been in the past.

> I'm only 26! All they told me was to keep taking

> Prilosec. Yeah, that keeps the heartburn away, but

> way to mask the problem guys. I'm so aggravated

> with doctors. That's why I joined this group. I

> wanted to see what good doing a liver, gallbladder

> and colon cleanse would do. My questions are:

>

> Have people done all 3 of those?

> Can I do them all at once, or is that too much to

> put my body through?

> HOW do I do it? I've seen bits and pieces but I'm

> the type of person who wants complete step by step

> instructions (yeah, I know, I'm difficult! LOL).

> How long does it take?

> What can I expect during a cleanse?

> How often do I have to do it?

> Once I do it, how will I know that I'm fully

> cleansed?

>

> Sorry if these questions seem at all ignorant...I

> just really don't know anything about this and so

> far I haven't found any good reliable information

> anywhere. If there are any good websites or books

> that people know of which will answer these (and

> probably the other questions I have but don't

> remember at this point) I would be VERY grateful. I

> want to get this all taken care of while I'm young!

> I'm also on some prescription medications which I'm

> trying to slowly wean myself off of so I can go

> completely to herbal remedies. I'm tired of

> poisoning my body with all that crap. I'm hoping

> that once I get my body cleansed it will work how

> it's supposed to and I won't even need the herbal

> stuff. I think that's wishful thinking though. We

> shall see. Thank you all so much!

>

> Jen

>

>

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Hi Jen:

No offense, but Aleve just is not going to help that

much with RA - are you taking any other meds, or is

that truly it? You need to be on a DMARD to slow the

progression of the disease - you may think that the

Aleve is working because it decreases the pain, but

what is happening to your joints and your body, is

silently continuing under your skin. Relieving the

pain is just not enough - believe me, I also thought

that way for a while, but being in this group and

hearing others stories has really opened my eyes.

Have you given any consideration to taking anything

else - has your doctor suggested it?

Kathe in CA

--- saralaughs02 <saralaughs02@...> wrote:

> Hello, Jessy!

>

> I can relate to what you are saying. I, too, was

> very young when I

> started having symptoms of RA. I think it got

> really bad around 23-

> 24yo. I was Dx'd at age 27 and have just turned 30.

> Started out

> being able to tell when it was going to rain. I now

> have pain that

> runs from my knees to my ankles, so bad that it

> feels liek I am

> standing on broken bone at times. I haven't started

> taking anything

> other than Aleve so far.

>

> I know it's hard to be so young and to have such

> pain in your body.

> What anti-inflammatory are you on?

>

> Jen

>

>

> > > Hello,

> > >

> > > I haven't posted in a couple months, but am

> having a

> > > flare and was wondering if anyone had any

> suggestions.

> > > The rheumotiod arthritis is mainly in my feet,

> and

> > > then also effects my achilles tendons. They

> just kill

> > > me, esp in the evenings and nights. Does anyone

> else

> > > experience this? What would you suggest for

> pain

> > > relief? I am currently on Methotrexate (25 mg),

> > > Prednisone, a prescription anti-inflammatory,

> and

> > > anything else that helps.

> > >

> > > Also is there anything I could ask my rheumo

> doctor to

> > > look into as far as the achilles tendons? Last

> time,

> > > he told me to use some ceyenne cream, but that

> didn't

> > > really work.

> > >

> > > What do you do when you have flares in your

> feet, but

> > > want to go do stuff? I know at the end day, and

> the

> > > next day I will pay for it, but at the same time

> I am

> > > 26 and want to keep up.

> > >

> > > Thanks for the help,

> > > Jessy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I might add that it was OTC Aleve that gave me a bleeding ulcer. Sue

On Wednesday, June 29, 2005, at 03:42 PM, Kathe Sabetzadeh wrote:

> Hi Jen:

>

> No offense, but Aleve just is not going to help that

> much with RA - are you taking any other meds, or is

> that truly it? You need to be on a DMARD to slow the

> progression of the disease - you may think that the

> Aleve is working because it decreases the pain, but

> what is happening to your joints and your body, is

> silently continuing under your skin. Relieving the

> pain is just not enough - believe me, I also thought

> that way for a while, but being in this group and

> hearing others stories has really opened my eyes.

> Have you given any consideration to taking anything

> else - has your doctor suggested it?

[Guest guest]

Hello! How are you? Well, I'm sorry about the DX and then again I

understand how not knowing can drive a person batty! I'm really glad

that the doc took you seriously enough to take some preventive

measures!!!!!! Sounds like a keeper. Anyhow, I want to congratulate

you on the weight loss. Way to go!!!!! I hope that they can really

get on the ball where you are concerned!!! Take care and keep us

posted! XXX's Kim

[Guest guest]

You’re very welcome, Jen.

I bought my netipot from Wild Oats but any health food store or even a store that sells yoga products will likely have them. Be sure to buy neti salt too because regular salt is too course and will burn your nose.

I have never used the Rejuvenation cream before, do you know what it is for? Is the Skinstore reasonable? I have always bought my MD Forte products from my dermatologist but they are far from reasonable.

I buy some of my supplements from myhealthfirst.com. He carries a lot of the products we use except for the private label ones and they are much cheaper.

Kenda

Thanks Kenda, I need to order some more of the Andrographis along

with the other products you mentioned. I'm tired of all these

colds/flus!! Also where can I find the netipot(sp?) you mentioned

earlier for my sinus's? I think that's what you called it?

As for the MD Forte products, I use Cleasner number 1, lotion 2 (in

summer) and cream 2 (in the winter), so it sounds like the same as

what you do, I was wondering what all the other creams are for like

the Rejuvenation cream etc. have you tried that? I have never tried

an acid peel, but would like to and I order all the MD Forte

products from skinstore.com

Where is the cheapest to buy Andrographis at?

Thanks!

Jen

> >> > Hi Jen,

> >> >

> >> > It could definitely be the bug you have had. Since it came on

> > quickly,

> >> > right at the end of your nasty cold, I wouldn’t worry about

it —

> > unless this

> >> > is a problem you have had intermittently after explantation.

Are

> > you taking

> >> > anything for congestion? Do you still have some Andrographis?

> > I’d be

> >> > taking both and eating or juicing garlic to kick the bug

faster.

> > If you

> >> > still aren’t better by Monday, Dr. Leu has several things to

treat

> > a bug and

> >> > boost your immune system. If you want to order any of them

> > Monday, let me

> >> > know and I’ll give you the names. You don’t need an

appointment

> > with him.

> >> >

> >> > Kenda

> >> >

> >> >

> >>> > > it started yesterday & I've had terrible sinus/eye

> > pressure/congestion

> >>> > > as well. But I can't move around quickly or alot or I feel

like

> > you do

> >>> > > when you've had too much too drink. What could it be? Just

the

> > fact

> >>> > > that I'm getting over another nasty head/lung cold?

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of

advice

> > given by licensed

> >>> > > health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> > health care

> >>> > > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

politicians

> > mislead you.

> >>> > > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions

about

> > how to live a

> >>> > > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> > two-time

> >>> > > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>> > >

> >>> > >