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Ouch. I hear ya. I actually had to have someone write a letter telling my

PCP (with a cc to my GI) that my pain was not all in my head. Stress? I

had more stress preparing to die from whatever is wrong.

I did find that flax seed was exacerbating whatever is wrong. I am in

multitudes less pain now. Food allergies can appear at any time in your

life. It could be you have wheat allergy and it is wreaking havoc with your

small bowel.

I passed dark, coagulated blood yesterday. I was hoping I was through with

that. And -- I'm still trying to find out what is causing a problem that

started in Feb of '02 and knocked me on my butt starting in Nov. '03 to

mid-Feb '05. I mean like sitting in a chair and not moving most of the

time.

(I dance around like a fool now. It's great to be able to twist my torso

and not scream.)

I had the HIDA and it made me very nauseas.

A GI guy will always pass your troubles off on stress because they can get

away with it. I honestly believe the testing that is required to find out

what is wrong is so costly insurance companies fight against it.

If you know a psychologist that will write to your PCP and GI doctors, do

it. What a difference it made for me. I am going to have them look at my

small bowel now. My colon is clear and my stomach has slight irritation,

but that could have been from adding digestive enzymes to my diet. I

stopped using them.

As for the flushes... I just don't want to do them while I'm passing blood.

Be careful of herbal remedies. That was why I started grinding my own flax

and adding it to my diet. It did quite a number on me.

JoyceB

Sorry if these questions seem at all ignorant...I just really don't know

anything about this and so far I haven't found any good reliable information

anywhere. If there are any good websites or books that people know of which

will answer these (and probably the other questions I have but don't

remember at this point) I would be VERY grateful. I want to get this all

taken care of while I'm young! I'm also on some prescription medications

which I'm trying to slowly wean myself off of so I can go completely to

herbal remedies. I'm tired of poisoning my body with all that crap. I'm

hoping that once I get my body cleansed it will work how it's supposed to

and I won't even need the herbal stuff. I think that's wishful thinking

though. We shall see. Thank you all so much!

Jen

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Do you get this pain after eating fatty meals?

If so, have you tried drinking a few glasses of water when you get this pain?

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT)

From: Jen Doutt <glitterprincess1978@...>

Subject: really long post with several questions!

Hi everyone, my name is Jen and I'm 26 years old. I believe this is my

first post. I've been reading posts and finally got into the files

section of the group, where I read " Journey to the Center of your Colon. "

OMG! After reading that I want to do a colon cleanse like NOW. I

started having heartburn about 5 years ago, and getting it on a regular

basis (3-5 times a week or more) probably about a year ago; honestly I

wasn't keeping track. Well, the end of April I started having really bad

abdominal pain which I thought was my gallbladder. My mom had

gallbladder problems and she said that my symptoms were pretty much identical

to hers. I finally couldn't take it anymore and ended up in the ER one

Sunday night. They couldn't figure anything out so they wrote an order

for a sonogram to be done the next day, which showed nothing. About a

week later they did a Hydascan (sp?). I don't know how many of you

have had that done...but what they do is inject you with radioactive

materials (yuck) so that your liver and gallbladder show up on this

scan, and then they inject you with some drug that forces your

gallbladder to expel the materials so they can see how well it's functioning. I

was told it's the equivalent of eating a really fatty meal. IT HURT.

Not so bad that I couldn't stand it but it hurt. My roommate was

horrified when I told her that. She was like " I don't have any pain when I

eat something like that! " Well, once again they found nothing wrong.

So, they sent me to a Gastroenterologist who did an Endoscopy. This

was nearly 5 weeks after I first went to the doctor, mind you. He found

" mild stomach irritation. " Honestly, before I had that test done I

didn't know that they stomach is actually in the upper left of the

abdomen, I thought it was in the middle. So once I saw the diagram I realized

that by that point the pain was exactly where the diagram said my

stomach was! In the beginning it was from the right side of my back, around

to

the front and across to my stomach. I missed so much work and was so

miserable for so long, and for them to find NOTHING. The

Gastroenterologist said it was probably stress. I hate to tell him, but I'm

under

less stress now than I have been in the past. I'm only 26! All they

told me was to keep taking Prilosec. Yeah, that keeps the heartburn

away, but way to mask the problem guys. I'm so aggravated with doctors.

That's why I joined this group. I wanted to see what good doing a

liver, gallbladder and colon cleanse would do. My questions are:

Have people done all 3 of those?

Can I do them all at once, or is that too much to put my body through?

HOW do I do it? I've seen bits and pieces but I'm the type of person

who wants complete step by step instructions (yeah, I know, I'm

difficult! LOL).

How long does it take?

What can I expect during a cleanse?

How often do I have to do it?

Once I do it, how will I know that I'm fully cleansed?

Sorry if these questions seem at all ignorant...I just really don't

know anything about this and so far I haven't found any good reliable

information anywhere. If there are any good websites or books that people

know of which will answer these (and probably the other questions I have

but don't remember at this point) I would be VERY grateful. I want to

get this all taken care of while I'm young! I'm also on some

prescription medications which I'm trying to slowly wean myself off of so I can

go completely to herbal remedies. I'm tired of poisoning my body with

all that crap. I'm hoping that once I get my body cleansed it will

work how it's supposed to and I won't even need the herbal stuff. I think

that's wishful thinking though. We shall see. Thank you all so much!

Jen

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can't find stones with an ultrasound but they'll find

it if you do an MRI

Have you had an MRI?

If not then request it

--- JoyceB <crwriter@...> wrote:

> Ouch. I hear ya. I actually had to have someone

> write a letter telling my

> PCP (with a cc to my GI) that my pain was not all in

> my head. Stress? I

> had more stress preparing to die from whatever is

> wrong.

>

> I did find that flax seed was exacerbating whatever

> is wrong. I am in

> multitudes less pain now. Food allergies can appear

> at any time in your

> life. It could be you have wheat allergy and it is

> wreaking havoc with your

> small bowel.

>

> I passed dark, coagulated blood yesterday. I was

> hoping I was through with

> that. And -- I'm still trying to find out what is

> causing a problem that

> started in Feb of '02 and knocked me on my butt

> starting in Nov. '03 to

> mid-Feb '05. I mean like sitting in a chair and not

> moving most of the

> time.

>

> (I dance around like a fool now. It's great to be

> able to twist my torso

> and not scream.)

>

> I had the HIDA and it made me very nauseas.

>

> A GI guy will always pass your troubles off on

> stress because they can get

> away with it. I honestly believe the testing that

> is required to find out

> what is wrong is so costly insurance companies fight

> against it.

>

> If you know a psychologist that will write to your

> PCP and GI doctors, do

> it. What a difference it made for me. I am going

> to have them look at my

> small bowel now. My colon is clear and my stomach

> has slight irritation,

> but that could have been from adding digestive

> enzymes to my diet. I

> stopped using them.

>

> As for the flushes... I just don't want to do them

> while I'm passing blood.

>

> Be careful of herbal remedies. That was why I

> started grinding my own flax

> and adding it to my diet. It did quite a number on

> me.

>

> JoyceB

>

>

> Sorry if these questions seem at all ignorant...I

> just really don't know

> anything about this and so far I haven't found any

> good reliable information

> anywhere. If there are any good websites or books

> that people know of which

> will answer these (and probably the other questions

> I have but don't

> remember at this point) I would be VERY grateful. I

> want to get this all

> taken care of while I'm young! I'm also on some

> prescription medications

> which I'm trying to slowly wean myself off of so I

> can go completely to

> herbal remedies. I'm tired of poisoning my body

> with all that crap. I'm

> hoping that once I get my body cleansed it will work

> how it's supposed to

> and I won't even need the herbal stuff. I think

> that's wishful thinking

> though. We shall see. Thank you all so much!

>

> Jen

>

>

>

>

>

>

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