Guest guest Posted August 11, 2005 Report Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi Jake I was also told I might have a polyp under the stones. Removal of the gallbladder is not the only option, there are Chinese herbs to deal with polyps and even gallbladder cancer. The people that sell them in China on the Internet say a " combined Western/Chinese approach " is best, but if you have the GB removed then there wouldn`t be much point in the herbs! Anyway, I suggest to go see a Chinese doctor near your home who can prescribe and prepare a mixture exactly right for you. Do it now, and check ultrasound every 6 months. I think if the herbs are the right mix for you at this point in time, they will block further growth of the polyps and may even regress them. I am taking such a mixture too. A flush would not remove the polyps. The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous anyway. All attempts to reduce the size of the stones should be made without flushing. Once they are small enough, they will be able to leave the system naturally. As a personal choice, I would prefer to avoid lecithin which might emulsify the stones into a sort of mud. I think it would be better to get them down to small size crystals, but even then not so small that they would infiltrate the pancreas on their way out. Maybe, 1mm would be a reasonable target. Best Max ----- Original Message ----- From: lloyd gebana gallstones Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Gall bladder polyps? Good Day! I just want to know if gallbladder flush is applicable also if you have gallbladder polyps, I was diagnosed with 2 gallbladder polyps and accdg. to my doctor it should be ultrasound every 6 mos. , " a watch & wait method " will be imposed. If the polyps becomes larger , the only solution to that is to remove the gallbladder. I'm afraid to remove my gallbladder and I will do anything to save it. Is the glabbder flush approve by many doctors? or it will help me to remove the polyps in my gallbladder. Thank you and Hoping that somebody would help me on my situation. best regards, jakelloyd tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: I have also foud while waiting my two weeks to do my next flush that I need to drink the epsom salt (but one tablespoon works) and I add it to apple juice ---For the pain. ( it's suppose to open the ducts and relax them)---it does work!!! And this is usually a hour or so after eating something. I can't even go near half and half---only eating fiber (oatmeal), fruit, a little pasta with sauce, some veggies.---NO fat whatsoever--- and for protein only turkey, chicken or fish. can't imagine begin able to eat red meat. Just can't digest---- Get digestive enzymes---must take those with a meal. (immunesupport.com has a good one) I am hoping after a few fasts that I can go back slowly to eating a bit more regular---but realize I have to watch the fats now. and my lipid profile was very low---must be digestion with me more-- hope this helps you---tina > > > The Gallbladder Flush > Items Needed: > > * raw, unfiltered apple juice > * epsom salts > * grapefruit juice > * olive oil > > Plan: > > From monday through Saturday noon drink pure, unfiltered apple juice. > As much as you can consume, wih meals and between them. > > On Saturday, have lunch as you normally would. > Three hours after lunch, dissolve 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in one > ounce of hot water. Follow this with a chaser of grapefruit juice to > mask the taste. > > For dinner, have half a grapefruit only. > > At bedtime, take 1 cup of unrefined olive oil, drink with a straw, > followed by a small amount of grapefruit juice. > > Immediately go to bed. > > Lie on your right side, bend your right knee to your chest and hold > for approximately 30 minutes. You can then lower your knee and > proceed to sleep. > > If you feel a bit nauseous when you wake up, rest a bit until you > feel better. > > When you get up, take 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in an ounce of hot > water, followed by grapefruit juice. This is done an hour before > breakfast. > > Your stools may contain small green materials floating around. Dark > green are older deposits and the light ones are newer deposits. > If you pass many deposits, repeat in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 " The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous " That is not a fact...in fact, there are many doctors online and in my town that approve the flush. It is not dangerous, I've done them for 4 years and feel better than I ever did. The epsolm salt opens bile ducts where stones will go through with ease- even the big ones... http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73 & i=368 I found this site on polyps- there is alot more. max <max@...> wrote: Hi Jake I was also told I might have a polyp under the stones. Removal of the gallbladder is not the only option, there are Chinese herbs to deal with polyps and even gallbladder cancer. The people that sell them in China on the Internet say a " combined Western/Chinese approach " is best, but if you have the GB removed then there wouldn`t be much point in the herbs! Anyway, I suggest to go see a Chinese doctor near your home who can prescribe and prepare a mixture exactly right for you. Do it now, and check ultrasound every 6 months. I think if the herbs are the right mix for you at this point in time, they will block further growth of the polyps and may even regress them. I am taking such a mixture too. A flush would not remove the polyps. The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous anyway. All attempts to reduce the size of the stones should be made without flushing. Once they are small enough, they will be able to leave the system naturally. As a personal choice, I would prefer to avoid lecithin which might emulsify the stones into a sort of mud. I think it would be better to get them down to small size crystals, but even then not so small that they would infiltrate the pancreas on their way out. Maybe, 1mm would be a reasonable target. Best Max ----- Original Message ----- From: lloyd gebana gallstones Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Gall bladder polyps? Good Day! I just want to know if gallbladder flush is applicable also if you have gallbladder polyps, I was diagnosed with 2 gallbladder polyps and accdg. to my doctor it should be ultrasound every 6 mos. , " a watch & wait method " will be imposed. If the polyps becomes larger , the only solution to that is to remove the gallbladder. I'm afraid to remove my gallbladder and I will do anything to save it. Is the glabbder flush approve by many doctors? or it will help me to remove the polyps in my gallbladder. Thank you and Hoping that somebody would help me on my situation. best regards, jakelloyd tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: I have also foud while waiting my two weeks to do my next flush that I need to drink the epsom salt (but one tablespoon works) and I add it to apple juice ---For the pain. ( it's suppose to open the ducts and relax them)---it does work!!! And this is usually a hour or so after eating something. I can't even go near half and half---only eating fiber (oatmeal), fruit, a little pasta with sauce, some veggies.---NO fat whatsoever--- and for protein only turkey, chicken or fish. can't imagine begin able to eat red meat. Just can't digest---- Get digestive enzymes---must take those with a meal. (immunesupport.com has a good one) I am hoping after a few fasts that I can go back slowly to eating a bit more regular---but realize I have to watch the fats now. and my lipid profile was very low---must be digestion with me more-- hope this helps you---tina > > > The Gallbladder Flush > Items Needed: > > * raw, unfiltered apple juice > * epsom salts > * grapefruit juice > * olive oil > > Plan: > > From monday through Saturday noon drink pure, unfiltered apple juice. > As much as you can consume, wih meals and between them. > > On Saturday, have lunch as you normally would. > Three hours after lunch, dissolve 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in one > ounce of hot water. Follow this with a chaser of grapefruit juice to > mask the taste. > > For dinner, have half a grapefruit only. > > At bedtime, take 1 cup of unrefined olive oil, drink with a straw, > followed by a small amount of grapefruit juice. > > Immediately go to bed. > > Lie on your right side, bend your right knee to your chest and hold > for approximately 30 minutes. You can then lower your knee and > proceed to sleep. > > If you feel a bit nauseous when you wake up, rest a bit until you > feel better. > > When you get up, take 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in an ounce of hot > water, followed by grapefruit juice. This is done an hour before > breakfast. > > Your stools may contain small green materials floating around. Dark > green are older deposits and the light ones are newer deposits. > If you pass many deposits, repeat in 2 weeks. 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Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 Yes, I wouldn't do a flush without the Epsom salts. Or you could just take the Epsom salts. I think the stones should be allowed to pass naturally. I'm going to take bile acids, taurine, L-methionine, magnesium, inositol, choline and IP-6 as long as it takes to get them down to a size where they will leave naturally. ----- Original Message ----- From: L L gallstones Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Gall bladder polyps? " The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous " That is not a fact...in fact, there are many doctors online and in my town that approve the flush. It is not dangerous, I've done them for 4 years and feel better than I ever did. The epsolm salt opens bile ducts where stones will go through with ease- even the big ones... http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=73 & i=368 I found this site on polyps- there is alot more. max <max@...> wrote: Hi Jake I was also told I might have a polyp under the stones. Removal of the gallbladder is not the only option, there are Chinese herbs to deal with polyps and even gallbladder cancer. The people that sell them in China on the Internet say a " combined Western/Chinese approach " is best, but if you have the GB removed then there wouldn`t be much point in the herbs! Anyway, I suggest to go see a Chinese doctor near your home who can prescribe and prepare a mixture exactly right for you. Do it now, and check ultrasound every 6 months. I think if the herbs are the right mix for you at this point in time, they will block further growth of the polyps and may even regress them. I am taking such a mixture too. A flush would not remove the polyps. The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous anyway. All attempts to reduce the size of the stones should be made without flushing. Once they are small enough, they will be able to leave the system naturally. As a personal choice, I would prefer to avoid lecithin which might emulsify the stones into a sort of mud. I think it would be better to get them down to small size crystals, but even then not so small that they would infiltrate the pancreas on their way out. Maybe, 1mm would be a reasonable target. Best Max ----- Original Message ----- From: lloyd gebana gallstones Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Gall bladder polyps? Good Day! I just want to know if gallbladder flush is applicable also if you have gallbladder polyps, I was diagnosed with 2 gallbladder polyps and accdg. to my doctor it should be ultrasound every 6 mos. , " a watch & wait method " will be imposed. If the polyps becomes larger , the only solution to that is to remove the gallbladder. I'm afraid to remove my gallbladder and I will do anything to save it. Is the glabbder flush approve by many doctors? or it will help me to remove the polyps in my gallbladder. Thank you and Hoping that somebody would help me on my situation. best regards, jakelloyd tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: I have also foud while waiting my two weeks to do my next flush that I need to drink the epsom salt (but one tablespoon works) and I add it to apple juice ---For the pain. ( it's suppose to open the ducts and relax them)---it does work!!! And this is usually a hour or so after eating something. I can't even go near half and half---only eating fiber (oatmeal), fruit, a little pasta with sauce, some veggies.---NO fat whatsoever--- and for protein only turkey, chicken or fish. can't imagine begin able to eat red meat. Just can't digest---- Get digestive enzymes---must take those with a meal. (immunesupport.com has a good one) I am hoping after a few fasts that I can go back slowly to eating a bit more regular---but realize I have to watch the fats now. and my lipid profile was very low---must be digestion with me more-- hope this helps you---tina > > > The Gallbladder Flush > Items Needed: > > * raw, unfiltered apple juice > * epsom salts > * grapefruit juice > * olive oil > > Plan: > > From monday through Saturday noon drink pure, unfiltered apple juice. > As much as you can consume, wih meals and between them. > > On Saturday, have lunch as you normally would. > Three hours after lunch, dissolve 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in one > ounce of hot water. Follow this with a chaser of grapefruit juice to > mask the taste. > > For dinner, have half a grapefruit only. > > At bedtime, take 1 cup of unrefined olive oil, drink with a straw, > followed by a small amount of grapefruit juice. > > Immediately go to bed. > > Lie on your right side, bend your right knee to your chest and hold > for approximately 30 minutes. You can then lower your knee and > proceed to sleep. > > If you feel a bit nauseous when you wake up, rest a bit until you > feel better. > > When you get up, take 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in an ounce of hot > water, followed by grapefruit juice. This is done an hour before > breakfast. > > Your stools may contain small green materials floating around. Dark > green are older deposits and the light ones are newer deposits. > If you pass many deposits, repeat in 2 weeks. 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Guest guest Posted August 12, 2005 Report Share Posted August 12, 2005 I've done a couple of flushes in the past year and I've had attacks since 1985. I was even convinced I'd end up in the hospital because I read flushes were " dangerous " but I never had a problem with them but I was desperate to try anything in order to avoid the inevitable and I did. I didn't even do a parasite cleanse the first time so it wasn't as successful as I would have liked. I think the Epsom salts was a key factor in dilating the ducts, at least that has been my experience. Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: L L gallstones Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Gall bladder polyps? " The gallbladder flush is not approved by any doctors, but in my opinion the flush is dangerous " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 this is really a tough one because polyps are usually some kind of growth or a cyst which is fluid filled--- one could try vitamin C and see if they can be reduced in size. I would look at your immune system and try and increase that first. And you need to figure out what the polyps are composed of. You really have to get a good doctor for this one!!!! > > I have also found while waiting my two weeks to do my next flush that > I need to drink the epsom salt (but one tablespoon works) and I add > it to apple juice ---For the pain. ( it's suppose to open the ducts > and relax them)---it does work!!! > > And this is usually a hour or so after eating something. > > I can't even go near half and half---only eating fiber (oatmeal), > fruit, a little pasta with sauce, some veggies.---NO fat whatsoever- -- > and for protein only turkey, chicken or fish. > > can't imagine begin able to eat red meat. > > Just can't digest---- > > Get digestive enzymes---must take those with a meal. > (immunesupport.com has a good one) > > I am hoping after a few fasts that I can go back slowly to eating a > bit more regular---but realize I have to watch the fats now. > > and my lipid profile was very low---must be digestion with me more-- > > hope this helps you---tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In gallstones , " tina83862 " <tina83862@y...> wrote: > > > > > > The Gallbladder Flush > > Items Needed: > > > > * raw, unfiltered apple juice > > * epsom salts > > * grapefruit juice > > * olive oil > > > > Plan: > > > > From monday through Saturday noon drink pure, unfiltered apple > juice. > > As much as you can consume, wih meals and between them. > > > > On Saturday, have lunch as you normally would. > > Three hours after lunch, dissolve 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in > one > > ounce of hot water. Follow this with a chaser of grapefruit juice > to > > mask the taste. > > > > For dinner, have half a grapefruit only. > > > > At bedtime, take 1 cup of unrefined olive oil, drink with a straw, > > followed by a small amount of grapefruit juice. > > > > Immediately go to bed. > > > > Lie on your right side, bend your right knee to your chest and hold > > for approximately 30 minutes. You can then lower your knee and > > proceed to sleep. > > > > If you feel a bit nauseous when you wake up, rest a bit until you > > feel better. > > > > When you get up, take 2 tablespoons of Epsom salts in an ounce of > hot > > water, followed by grapefruit juice. This is done an hour before > > breakfast. > > > > Your stools may contain small green materials floating around. Dark > > green are older deposits and the light ones are newer deposits. > > If you pass many deposits, repeat in 2 weeks. > > > > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones- unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > > To Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.org > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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