Re: Liver flush is like Tooth Brushing

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hi,

i was reading curezone pages, one person there wrote that liver flushing is

like a tooth brushing, he wrote that as we have to brush our teeth daily, and

to brush 4 times in a day does not mean that when we brush our teeth after 4

days r will not yield any thing. I think he is right.

one thing is also that in our liver flushes we expell only the liver stones and

not the gall bladder stones, as we expell the gall stones very rarely, this is

bacause the amount of stones one expell in the flush can totally empty the gall

bladder. but this does not happed. thousands of people have done ultrasound

after flush and the found the same amount of stones in the gall bladder

including me.

liver stones are green, semi soft, soft, pea green, and gall stones are mostly

hard, grey and white grey in colour, as hard as stones - rarely one can expell

the gall stones, gall stones expells but rarely, mostly the liver stones we

are expelling.

but we have to take liver flush as a regular feature, like tooth brusing !!

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Boris;

I have read a few of your posts and I would like to note that you are correct

regarding flushes in that they do mostly get stones from the liver. This is a

good thing in that it means there is less to be captured in the gallbladder when

it is refilling.

Ridding the body of gallstones really is a daily process of diet more so than

flushing. By consuming various quantities and qualities of foods it is possible

to make a bile salt that is very liquid and more of an emulsifier than one

containing excessive amounts of cholesterol that will precipitate into bile

stones. Then too there are stones that precipitated calcium, and these are the

ones that are the most difficult to expel, as well as being the ones that lead

to most of the surgeries that are undergone.

I'm one of the people who has been pretty much stone free for a number of years

or at least I haven't had an attack since Oct of 99. Since my liver really isn't

in too good of condition because of Hep A, and C I have to be fairly careful of

what foods I do eat.

I was diagnosed in Feb of 99 with having " A " stone in my diseased and thickened

gallbladder. My doctor determined that I needed to have my gallbladder removed

within the next two weeks and gave me the phone number of a qualified surgeon.

I decided to do the flush after doing a month or more of preparation work eating

like I had never done before, a diet free of all fats. I no longer ate at McD,

or any other of the fast food places. In fact I probably can count on my fingers

the number of times I've been to one since that time. My prep work was in taking

gold coin grass of which I had gotten from Chang and eating only good food

consisting of fruits and vegetables.

It all boils down to what is done on a daily basis to keep the liver clean,

which in turn helps to get the gallbladder cleaned too. That is why I seek to

follow Dr. Cabot's information as presented in her books regarding foods

and supplements such as lecithin, taurine, and various oils containing essential

fatty acids.

There are many of us who have been able to get out the gallstones, have our

gallbladder heal, and keep stones out for extended periods of time and most of

that success has to do with how we have been eating.

Dale

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Hi,

The reason that you continue to get more 'stones' every time you take

this treatment is that your digestive system changes the chemical

composition of the oil as it passes through. Basically, you are

converting the oil into a kind of soap. This is the reason why people

who didn't know that they had a sick liver or gall bladder always find

stones after they've taken the 'treatment', and also why you never

actually pass any real gallstones.

You will find that regardless of how many times you take this 'cure',

you will always pass about the same number of 'stones'.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I've been through this myself. I think

the key to non-surgical treatment is a diet free from saturated fats,

spicy food and cold drinks. Combine this will the assistance of a

good Chinese herbalist and you'll be on the way. It may take a year

or so before your problem is solved, though.

Regards and good luck,

Monyet

[Guest guest]

I agree that diet is a key ingrediebt to the return to better health.

Some hot spices are recommended to help to enhance bile flow. Tumeric

(the yellow ingredient of curry) is also considered beneficial.

The cayenne or hot pepper should be added to your diet after your

gallbladder is in a healthier state, NOT if you are having repeated

attacks. Go to the links and files of the group page for further

ideas on diets beneficial for the GB.

~Suzanne

--- " monyet_miskin " <monyet_miskin@y...> wrote:

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> I think the key to non-surgical treatment is a diet free from

> saturated fats, spicy food and cold drinks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Boris,

The ultra sound doesn't usally see any of the cholesterol stones

before or after the flush. Those are the green softer ones. They are

still gall stones, even though they originate in the liver. You can't

remove them by flushing unless they go through the gall bladder first.

You've been misinformed if you were told that the green cholesterol

stones are not gall stones. Look at our pictures on our website and

you will see a surgically removed gall bladder full of bright green

cholesterol stones. These are the same stones that the other picture

shows inside an autopsy liver duct. It makes sense if you think about

it that the liver dumps bile into the gall bladder. Why wouldn't the

bile flowing out of the liver dump some of the stones which originate

in the liver into the gall bladder?

Do an experiment for yourself. Fill a balloon with marbles. squeeze

it once with both hands. Some marbles will come out, but not all.

Squeeze it again. Some more marbles will come out. After a few

squeezes, there are still marbles in the balloon, but squeezing the

balloon does not push them out (it just constricts the balloon around

the marbles). Now put some water in the ballon and squeeze. The flow

of water exiting the balloon pushes marbles with it.

The gall bladder is like the balloon, and the bile is like the water.

A healthy gall bladder will expand and contract like the balloon.

The smaller ducts will relax and allow stones to pass, expecially with

Epsoms Salts. A good diet will make for lots of thin bile which will

expell your stones during a flush. however, there are more where they

came from in your liver, and over the next couple of weeks some of

them will take the place of the expelled stones in the gall bladder.

You do get some of the liver stones directly out in a flush also.

Many people with no gall bladders can attest to that. They do flushes

and still get out lots of stones.

Now throw in a sickly thickened gall bladder and ducts that do not

expand properly. Throw into the discussion thick and inadequate bile

flow because of diet problems. Some of the smaller softer stones can

be flushed out (the ones that can't easily be seen on an ultra sound),

but not the larger harder stones that can be easily seen on an ultra

sound. There's not enough force from the bile, and not enough

elasticity from the tissues in the gall bladder and exit duct.

The solution to getting the stones out that can't be flushed right

away from your gall bladder is twofold: Soften and reduce the stones

and strengthen and heal your gall bladder and liver with diet (which

could include appropriate herbs and supplements), exercise, and detox

cleansing methods.

Vince

> hi,

>

> i was reading curezone pages, one person there wrote that liver

flushing is like a tooth brushing, he wrote that as we have to brush

our teeth daily, and to brush 4 times in a day does not mean that

when we brush our teeth after 4 days r will not yield any thing. I

think he is right.

>

> one thing is also that in our liver flushes we expell only the liver

stones and not the gall bladder stones, as we expell the gall stones

very rarely, this is bacause the amount of stones one expell in the

flush can totally empty the gall bladder. but this does not happed.

thousands of people have done ultrasound after flush and the found the

same amount of stones in the gall bladder including me.

>

> liver stones are green, semi soft, soft, pea green, and gall

stones are mostly hard, grey and white grey in colour, as hard as

stones - rarely one can expell the gall stones, gall stones expells

but rarely, mostly the liver stones we are expelling.

>

> but we have to take liver flush as a regular feature, like tooth

brusing !!