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I notice improvements in my digestion immediately

after consuming raw goat milk kefir, and it tastes

great.

Often times when people hear that they should consume

yogurt because of acidophillus, they buy yogurt from

the supermarket full of sugar and preservatives.

Much of the kefir in the stores are loaded with sugar

as well but even that kefir makes me feel good.

Here's some info I copied

Both kefir and yogurt are cultured milk products...

...but they contain different types of beneficial

bacteria. Yogurt contains transient beneficial

bacteria that keep the digestive system clean and

provide food for the friendly bacteria that reside

there. But kefir can actually colonize the intestinal

tract, a feat that yogurt cannot match.

Kefir contains several major strains of friendly

bacteria not commonly found in yogurt, Lactobacillus

Caucasus, Leuconostoc, Acetobacter species, and

Streptococcus species.

It also contains beneficial yeasts, such as

Saccharomyces kefir and Torula kefir, which dominate,

control and eliminate destructive pathogenic yeasts in

the body. They do so by penetrating the mucosal lining

where unhealthy yeast and bacteria reside, forming a

virtual SWAT team that housecleans and strengthens the

intestines. Hence, the body becomes more efficient in

resisting such pathogens as E. coli and intestinal

parasites.

Kefir's active yeast and bacteria provide more

nutritive value than yogurt by helping digest the

foods that you eat and by keeping the colon

environment clean and healthy.

Because the curd size of kefir is smaller than

yogurt, it is also easier to digest, which makes it a

particularly excellent, nutritious food for babies,

invalids and the elderly, as well as a remedy for

digestive disorders.

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> Will, for what it's worth, I couldn't agree with you

> more, and, veterinary

> medicine seems no better.

>

> Nurses and medical practitoners who heal seem to be

> being replaced by people

> who don't seem to know or care about suffering or

> comfort, physical or

> emotional, especially where the elderly are

> concerned.

>

> When I was a boy, I was bored with adults who

> wondered what the world was

> coming to, now I think I understand.

>

> There are many of us who believe as you and I do

> although we're scattered

> and outnumbered.

>

> I wish I had an answer. Sadly, as things stand, I

> hope for the best and

> pretty-much expect the worst - a rotten state of

> affairs. I find it

> difficult to maintain any kind of optimism these

> days.

>

> I'd have preferred to say something uplifting

> although perhaps, knowing that

> you're not alone in your views may give you cause to

> feel a little better.

>

> I think our emperors are wearing no clothes - if you

> see what I'm saying.

>

> My best wishes to you.

>

>

> Maj

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Will Winter " <holistic@...>

> <gallstones >

> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 2:49 AM

> Subject: Re: Liver Disease and my

> sister

>

>

> :

> : My heart goes out to all those now in the hospital

> or to those who

> : have loved ones in the hospital.

> :

> : In spite of all the amazing Star-Trek advancements

> in certain

> : aspects of modern medicine it seems the field of

> healing the

> : chronically ill has taken a huge backslide plus

> IT'S GETTING

> : WORSE! What modern medicine is good at is giving

> you pain

> : medicine to make your death more comfortable and

> more

> : sanitary in appearance. They are also good at

> subjecting you to

> : an endless barrage of invasive, dangerous and

> debilitating

> : tests. The main point, of course is to extract

> every cent you have

> : available for health care before you die. The

> average

> : gastroenterologist kills more people in a month

> than Dr

> : Kervorkian has assisted to death in his whole

> career!

> :

> : What I hear that is lacking in all the recent

> reports of hospitalized

> : patients is

> : 1) TRUE DIAGNOSIS. Isn't it curious that not a

> one of these

> : people have probably been tested for heavy metal

> poisoning or

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> been tested for

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> :

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> :

> : 3) CESSATION OF TOXIC DRUGS. This is mostly in the

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> especially

> : steroids. This is what' s killing most patients.

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> : fact they can increase it by destroying and

> rupturing bacteria. If

> : people have a bacterial infection it is the

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> :

> : 4) IMMUNE TONICS these patients are coming into

> the hospital

> : with depressed immune systems. Why are the doctors

> killing

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> Western Medicine!)

> :

> : 5) EXOTIC THERAPY There are amazing results

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> other

> : CHELATORS. Most of these rescue techniques while

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> : not costly, not difficult and not harmful to the

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> : lives could be saved with this intervention.

> :

> : 6) PRAYER, HANDS-ON HEALING, MEDITATION,

> IMAGERY,

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> : PROVEN to create healing in almost all who try.

> :

> : 7) ENERGY MEDICINE, such as TCM or HOMEPATHY.

> : Incredible results and (with TCM) at least 5000

> years of proof

> : that it works.

> :

> : IN SUMMARY, your biggest risk of being in the

> hospital is being

> : killed by " modern medicine " . Most TRUE THERAPY is

> illegal or

> : against hospital policy. Once you get stuck in the

> slammer you

> : are on a conveyer belt to hell. Any alternative

> approach can land

> : the doctor in jail or legal court so we have a

> system that is

> : perfect for extracting maximum money, killing all

> but the most

> : resiliant patients and still pretending we are

> living in a civilized

> : country.

> :

> : Again, my heart goes out to all of you that are

> suffering, May God

> : bless you and get you out of the place of death

> you are not

> : trapped in, and into the hands of a holistic

> healer that can make

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> :

> : God Bless,

> :

> : Will in Minnesota

> :

> :

> :

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HI will,

Thanks for the added information.

Raw goat milk kefir is what I drink and advocate not

the commercial stuff.

sometimes I take living here for granted and assume

everyone has access to raw dairy.

--- Will Winter <holistic@...> wrote:

> I think is wise to follow her " body wisdom "

> in her choice

> of kefir over yogurt and goat over cow, but I do

> believe that the

> PROBIOTIC information is somewhat skewed and vastly

> oversimplified.

>

> If you love your GB and your digestive health, you

> need to take in

> the right kind of PROBIOTICS. No mammal can be

> healthy

> without them. Here's what I think is important to

> know:

>

> 1) ALL commercial (i.e. big dairy corporation)

> dairy products are

> junk food and should be eschewed. The kind of milk

> they start

> with will kill ya, then it gets adulterated even

> more. See

> realmilk.com.

>

> 2) While kefir organisms MAY stick around longer in

> the gut than

> the bacteria added to yogurt, it's important to

> remember that the

> long-lived Caucasians in Georgia Russia make and eat

> their

> HOME-MADE kefir virtually EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE.

> They

> also begin with their own farm-fresh raw milk. What

> most stores

> call kefir is a joke.

>

> 3) The organisms used to make milk curdle into

> yogurt are NOT

> intestinal organisms. Some products have

> LACTOBACILLUS

> ACIDOPHILUS added later but that is not what

> produced the

> yogurt culture. Virtually all the beneficial

> organisms in liquid

> medium are dead or inactive by the time you consume

> it.

>

> 4) Anyone anywhere can track down farmer milk to

> drink and

> lacto-ferment. If you can't find it, you aren't

> looking hard enough.

>

> 5) Anyone anywhere can culture their own yogurt

> and/or kefir. It's

> really easy and sort of fun. Our local Tradtiona

> Foods group (start

> one if you don't have one) members continually

> maintain and

> exchange LF culture starters for sourdough, kefir,

> kombucha,

> and others. (Google " kefir making).

>

> 6) While you are at it, be sure to consume at least

> 2 tablespoons

> of LIVE LF SAEURKRAUT as it will prevent virtually

> all forms of

> cancer and contains the organisms that we need.

> Other LF

> vegetables work good too, but the CRUCIFEROUS

> vegetables

> are the ones with the indoles and antioxidants that

> prevent..

>

> 7) Commercial probiotics are rated in CFUs (Colony

> Forming

> Units). It's wise to consume about 5 billion CFU

> daily. Double

> this if you are traveling, ill, have had Rx drugs,

> or are under

> stress.

>

> Will in Minnesota

>

>

>

>

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