Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 i would do thr flush first. roger --- theskyking123 <TheSkyKing@...> wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no > history of > gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some > intermittent, minor > upper right quadrant pain. > > After the breakfast, a few hours later, I > immediately began to get > moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the > upper right pain > too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, > slight elevation > in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. > Also, it gets > worse when I eat. > > I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have > mild to moderate > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused > by a gallstone > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast > yesterday. > > I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but > I know that any > procedure they do, will probably give me severe, > life-ruining > complications. > > Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? > > All help appreciated. > > > > PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme > Disease and Rife > Machines - http://www.lymebook.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 , Have you tried a dose of Lugol’s. That will help calm the stomach pain. Six drops in a ½ cup water will get rid of any salmonella or harmful bacteria that may be in your digestive tract. Hope you get to feeling better. Amy _____ From: Dr [mailto:Dr ] On Behalf Of theskyking123 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:22 PM Dr Subject: Immediate help needed Hi, Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no history of gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some intermittent, minor upper right quadrant pain. After the breakfast, a few hours later, I immediately began to get moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the upper right pain too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, slight elevation in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. Also, it gets worse when I eat. I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have mild to moderate pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but I know that any procedure they do, will probably give me severe, life-ruining complications. Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? All help appreciated. PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme Disease and Rife Machines - http://www.lymebook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 In a message dated 7/15/2005 9:20:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TheSkyKing@... writes: > My best guess is I have mild to moderate > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. Clear any constipation asap with some epsom salts and water. Will also relax ducts. Take warm baths, castor oil packs to extract inflammation. Take nux vomica for nausea. Go on low fat diet for a while to let pancreas and GB rest and repair. Consider herbs from sensiblehealth.com. Walk 30 min 2-3x a day to move stones. Then get a good liver book and get your diet and digestion straightened out. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Hi, Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no history of gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some intermittent, minor upper right quadrant pain. After the breakfast, a few hours later, I immediately began to get moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the upper right pain too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, slight elevation in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. Also, it gets worse when I eat. I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have mild to moderate pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but I know that any procedure they do, will probably give me severe, life-ruining complications. Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? All help appreciated. PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme Disease and Rife Machines - http://www.lymebook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 maybe do a flush tonight --- theskyking123 <TheSkyKing@...> wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no > history of > gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some > intermittent, minor > upper right quadrant pain. > > After the breakfast, a few hours later, I > immediately began to get > moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the > upper right pain > too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, > slight elevation > in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. > Also, it gets > worse when I eat. > > I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have > mild to moderate > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused > by a gallstone > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast > yesterday. > > I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but > I know that any > procedure they do, will probably give me severe, > life-ruining > complications. > > Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? > > All help appreciated. > > > > PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme > Disease and Rife > Machines - http://www.lymebook.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 What is the consensus on eating fat in the diet- I have heard that fat should be consumed to keep the bile flowing, yet on the other hand, some people say to avoid fat for obvious reasons. > In a message dated 7/15/2005 9:20:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > TheSkyKing@a... writes: > > > > My best guess is I have mild to moderate > > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone > > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. > > Clear any constipation asap with some epsom salts and water. Will also relax > ducts. Take warm baths, castor oil packs to extract inflammation. Take nux > vomica for nausea. Go on low fat diet for a while to let pancreas and GB rest and > repair. Consider herbs from sensiblehealth.com. Walk 30 min 2-3x a day to > move stones. > > Then get a good liver book and get your diet and digestion straightened out. > > Good luck. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Which liver book would you recommend? What is the procedure, and where do I get the materials, for caster oil packs? Thanks, > In a message dated 7/15/2005 9:20:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > TheSkyKing@a... writes: > > > > My best guess is I have mild to moderate > > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone > > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. > > Clear any constipation asap with some epsom salts and water. Will also relax > ducts. Take warm baths, castor oil packs to extract inflammation. Take nux > vomica for nausea. Go on low fat diet for a while to let pancreas and GB rest and > repair. Consider herbs from sensiblehealth.com. Walk 30 min 2-3x a day to > move stones. > > Then get a good liver book and get your diet and digestion straightened out. > > Good luck. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TheSkyKing@... writes: > where do I get the materials, for caster > oil packs? > Castor Oil Packs: search curezone archives and the gallstone group archives for procedure etc. Also in Edgar Cayce books. I am in a hurry or I would type it out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 you can buy Castor oil at any health food store I bought mine at the Vitamin Shop. I think they are all over the country. Also check out this website below It will be extremely helpful http://www.sensiblehealth.com/gallbladder.html lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 For me I did cut way down on fat in the form of French fries, pizza, etc BUT I still eat plenty of fat. I eat an entire avocado every day, which is like 30 grams of fat. I also have a little butter, cheese, and nuts. I have been eating super healthy with lots of vegetables. I cannot do a cleanse yet because I am nursing my 5 month old. Thankfully my healthy eating has prevented anymore attacks. It has been 8 weeks since my last attack. Praise the Lord!!! Traci -----Original Message----- From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of theskyking123 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:26 PM gallstones Subject: Re: Immediate help needed What is the consensus on eating fat in the diet- I have heard that fat should be consumed to keep the bile flowing, yet on the other hand, some people say to avoid fat for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Traci, Why won't you do a cleanse while nursing? Epsom salts are not secreted into breastmilk- the molecules are too large, if I remember correctly. It's considered one of the safest laxatives for nursing moms, and it's given to women during pregnancy to prevent premature labor. KerryAnn ----- Original Message ----- > I cannot do a cleanse > yet because I am nursing my 5 month old. Thankfully my healthy eating has > prevented anymore attacks. It has been 8 weeks since my last attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 One place to buy castor oil pack materials and get instruction is: http://www.heritagestore.com/ They sell a plastic holder in which to put the heating pad and oil-soaked fabric; this holder then wraps around you and it secured with velcro. Castor oil can be so messy and this helps minimize mess. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mackarmstr@...> <gallstones > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Re: Immediate help needed > In a message dated 7/15/2005 11:00:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > TheSkyKing@... writes: > > > > where do I get the materials, for caster > > oil packs? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 If you've never done a flush before and you are doing one bacause you believe a stone is lodged you should expect severe nausea during the night and a very sleepless evening. If you've done the flush before then you know what to expect and it may go smoothly. Lodged stones usually give nausea. Living parasites inside the organs will also give severe nausea, according to so kill some parasites first if possible. I use flushes for asthma and when I've let my parasite maintenance program lapse I simply do a full recipe (2tsp BWH, 3 clove capsules, 5 wormwood capsules) each day for two days before the cleanse and haven't suffered nausea since the first one (which made me want to go the hospital! I didn't, I was afraid someone would take out my gallbladder! ;-) Good Luck. --- theskyking123 <TheSkyKing@...> wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no > history of > gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some > intermittent, minor > upper right quadrant pain. > > After the breakfast, a few hours later, I > immediately began to get > moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the > upper right pain > too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, > slight elevation > in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. > Also, it gets > worse when I eat. > > I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have > mild to moderate > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused > by a gallstone > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast > yesterday. > > I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but > I know that any > procedure they do, will probably give me severe, > life-ruining > complications. > > Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? > > All help appreciated. > > > > PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme > Disease and Rife > Machines - http://www.lymebook.com > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hi, I had gallstone surgery this past Friday. I put it off for six months in hopes that some other method might resolve the issue, but none of them worked for me. The pain can be nigh on unendurable, but you can get through it. After a few attacks, I was able to recognize the very head end of an attack, and immediately would go to a bathroom and make myself vomit, bringing up whatever was causing the problem, and that took care of things where the other non-medical methods did not. I am not puttung down the alternative methods for combating Gall pain. Not by a long shot. I have spoken to several people for whom those methods DID work. It is just that for me, they failed miserably. In the end, do what works best for you to combat the pain, and get it diagnosed professionally. It could be something else entirely that is causing you pain. Regards, Jay --- In gallstones , " theskyking123 " <TheSkyKing@a...> wrote: > Hi, > > Yesterday I had a very fatty breakfast. I have no history of > gallbladder/pancreas problems, other than some intermittent, minor > upper right quadrant pain. > > After the breakfast, a few hours later, I immediately began to get > moderate upper left quadrant pain and some of the upper right pain > too. Today, it has worsened, accompanied by nausea, slight elevation > in body temperature, moderate pain in abdomen, etc. Also, it gets > worse when I eat. > > I do not know what to do. My best guess is I have mild to moderate > pancreatitis (irritated pancreas), possibly caused by a gallstone > getting stuck in a duct after my big fatty breakfast yesterday. > > I am considering going to the doctor / hospital, but I know that any > procedure they do, will probably give me severe, life-ruining > complications. > > Should I wait it out? Do a hulda clark flush? > > All help appreciated. > > > > PS - Some of you may know me as the author of Lyme Disease and Rife > Machines - http://www.lymebook.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I'm praying for the best outcome for this family & Max. Sincerely Nora San DIego On May 10, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Freels wrote: > Max sufferred a grand mal seizure May 1. His fever rose to 106 > degrees, causing the seizure to be uncontrollable. The seizure lasted > over 2 hours. Tuesday, May 8, Max stopped breathing and was intubated > again, he is on a ventilator. The CAT scan showed global, massive > swelling on the brain which is what caused him to stop breathing. The > brain is not firing the correct signals. A second CAT scan today has > shown the swelling to be worse. The neurologist told me this morning > Max would never wake up. If the swelling does not kill him, he will > only have brain stem function. The brain stem will only keep him > alive and breathing, nothing else. Those of you who know Max well, > know that Max is full of smiles and personality. They are telling me > this is all permanently gone. This is the only real funtion he has > and we live for it. He is a true joy. I am telling all of you this so > you do not give up on him yet. I am begging you to keep praying for > healing and a miracle until he is gone. We are not ready to let him > go yet. If you could see him you would have to believe he is still in > there trying to get back to his parents. , and Maya > are not ready to let him go yet. PRAY for him like you never have. We > will keep you posted. > > ---Original Message----- > >From: melanie rockrohr <mmr408@...> > >Sent: May 10, 2007 2:43 PM > > Freels <dfreels@...> > >Subject: Re: HBOT for Max's edema > > > >hi david > > i haven't been on in a long time, thanks for a quick response. > there > is a chamber in this hospital and we have one at home. his edema is > from a seizure > last week that was out of control for over 2 hours. They told us > today based on > a CT, he will not wake up and we need to make decisions. He is on a > vent, can he > still go in a chamber at this point, and do you know how many > treatments he would > need initially, to see improvement > > thanks so much, melanie > > > > Freels <dfreels@...> wrote: > > Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) can reduce the swelling (edema). > >There are dozens of references to this in the literature. If you go > >to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query and do a keyword > >search for 'hyperbaric brain edema' you'll get back 89 hits. If > >possible, Max should be treated with HBOT. If not, threaten to sue. I > >made a pdf of the 89 references and will try to email it to you or > >upload it to the photographs section of the CarePage. And show this > >page to your docs if they try to say HBOT doesn't do anything for > >brain-injury: http://www.harchhyperbarics.com/video.htm > > > >I just looked at the pdf and saw it only had 20 references instead of > >all 89. I'm resending with all 89. > > > >God bless the doctor(s) who fight for Max to get this. > > > > > > Freels > >2948 Windfield Circle > >Tucker, GA 30084-6714 > >770-491-6776 (phone) > >404-725-4520 (cell) > >815-366-7962 (fax) > > > >mailto:df@... > > > >http://www.davidfreels.com > > > >http://www. .com > > He can go in on a vent, though I don''t know all the specifics for > how to > arrange this. I do know Sechrist makes a vent that can be used in a > chamber. Sechrist > also makes 90% of the vents or vent components. I don't know how mant > treatments > he would need or what protocol. > > Can I forward this to the listserv and see if a > doctor there might > know what to do? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Whoa. Hold on. Max is not in my family. This is another family in South Bend, Indiana. Max has severe edema and is on a vent; however, the hospital has a chamber. If a doc will step up and offer some direction to the hospital on how to administer HBOT, Max may have a good outcome. Re: HBOT for Max's edema >> > >> >hi david >> > i haven't been on in a long time, thanks for a quick response. >> there >> is a chamber in this hospital and we have one at home. his edema is >> from a seizure >> last week that was out of control for over 2 hours. They told us >> today based on >> a CT, he will not wake up and we need to make decisions. He is on a >> vent, can he >> still go in a chamber at this point, and do you know how many >> treatments he would >> need initially, to see improvement >> > thanks so much, melanie >> > >> > Freels <dfreels@... >> <mailto:dfreels%40mindspring.com>> wrote: >> > Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) can reduce the swelling (edema). >> >There are dozens of references to this in the literature. If you go >> >to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query >> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query> and do a keyword >> >search for 'hyperbaric brain edema' you'll get back 89 hits. If >> >possible, Max should be treated with HBOT. If not, threaten to sue. I >> >made a pdf of the 89 references and will try to email it to you or >> >upload it to the photographs section of the CarePage. And show this >> >page to your docs if they try to say HBOT doesn't do anything for >> >brain-injury: http://www.harchhyperbarics.com/video.htm >> <http://www.harchhyperbarics.com/video.htm> >> > >> >I just looked at the pdf and saw it only had 20 references instead of >> >all 89. I'm resending with all 89. >> > >> >God bless the doctor(s) who fight for Max to get this. >> > >> > >> > Freels >> >2948 Windfield Circle >> >Tucker, GA 30084-6714 >> >770-491-6776 (phone) >> >404-725-4520 (cell) >> >815-366-7962 (fax) >> > >> >mailto:df@... <mailto:df%40davidfreels.com> >> > >> >http://www.davidfreels.com <http://www.davidfreels.com> >> > >> >http://www. .com <http://www. .com> >> >> He can go in on a vent, though I don''t know all the specifics for >> how to >> arrange this. I do know Sechrist makes a vent that can be used in a >> chamber. Sechrist >> also makes 90% of the vents or vent components. I don't know how mant >> treatments >> he would need or what protocol. >> >> Can I forward this to the listserv and see if a >> doctor there might >> know what to do? >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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