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Hi Marissa,

You've got a lot going on for someone so young. Sorry to hear about

your painful attacks. Have you read up on the flushes? They might

help, but you've got to read and decide if they would be right for

you. Removing the stones non-surgically is what the list talks

mostly about.

I'm sure some of the members with more experience than I can share

pain managment techniques for gall bladder attacks.

Best Regards,

Vince

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My name is Marissa and I'm 20 year old.

> I recently lost 125 pounds in 7 months and got Gallstones.

> There is a 6 month waiting list for surgery, and I find myself

> counting down the days with a marker on my calender.

> I get an offical gallstone attack once a week, and it is soo

painful

> that I've thought once or twice to just grab a knife and take it

out

> myself!! LOL

> I don't eat anything thats high in fats, I'm on Weight Watchers,

and

> I still get horrible attacks.

>

> I wanted to know if anyone has any advice that they can give me to

> get through an attack. I've tried taking Tylonal, Advil, NOTHING

> worked!

>

> If anyone could help, I would sooooo appricate it!!!

>

> THANK YOU!

>

>

> Marissa

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Marissa,

Even though you are on weight watchers, there may be

foods allowed that would trigger your gallbladder. A

single egg can be a real killer. I usually don't eat

anything with more than about 4-5 fat grams. Cheese,

milk products that contain fat, fatty meats like

chicken with the skin on, beef marbled with fat, and

especially pork can be real triggers. So think about

what you're eating. Eat only LEAN meat, avoid cheese

or any dairy products that are not low fat, watch how

much oil or fat is in your meals. And consider doing

a flush while you are waiting so long for your

surgery, you have nothing to lose, and at your young

age, may be able to take care of the problem that way.

If you are in pain, lie down flat on your back and put

heat on the area that hurts, it will relax the area

and help the stone to move along or roll on back into

the gallbladder.

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com/gallbladder.html

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L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

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Some may find this strange...but I find I can handle raw egg yolks no problem(I

usuallyblend them up into some kind of cool sauce with veg's ,celtic salt ,

herbs etc usually & have with raw or cooked & cooled veg etc)..

While cooked ...especially hard cooked eggyolks like hard boiled are much

more likely to stress my Gallbladder ..fwiw.

I believe this rule applies to varying degree to all animal fat

/cholesterol... & I believe also from my experience free range /grass fed animal

produce(ie means amongst other things a much better Omega3:Omega6 ratio)...also

helps a lot in Reducing Gall bladder related pain & animal fat/cholesterol

related digestion problems in general.

I went very.low fat diet when I first got this GB problem & it seemed to make

that problem worse ..as well as introduce a whole host of new medical problems

....be careful you dont do very low fat for prolonged periods imo..fwiw

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From: Meydrech, CN

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: gallstone attacks,

Marissa,

Even though you are on weight watchers, there may be

foods allowed that would trigger your gallbladder. A

single egg can be a real killer. I usually don't eat

anything with more than about 4-5 fat grams. Cheese,

milk products that contain fat, fatty meats like

chicken with the skin on, beef marbled with fat, and

especially pork can be real triggers. So think about

what you're eating. Eat only LEAN meat, avoid cheese

or any dairy products that are not low fat, watch how

much oil or fat is in your meals. And consider doing

a flush while you are waiting so long for your

surgery, you have nothing to lose, and at your young

age, may be able to take care of the problem that way.

If you are in pain, lie down flat on your back and put

heat on the area that hurts, it will relax the area

and help the stone to move along or roll on back into

the gallbladder.

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com/gallbladder.html

=====

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.bravehost.com

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

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>>>I wanted to know if anyone has any advice that they can give me to

get through an attack. I've tried taking Tylonal, Advil, NOTHING

worked! <<<

Hi Marissa,

Hope I'm not repeating what anyone else has already said - I get the daily

digest and can sometimes miss things that come in later in the day...apologies

if so....

In addition to all the great insight already offered....

When I started getting biliary colic attacks, last year, a very kind soul

here on the group mentioned that I could try taking 1 tablespoon of epsom salts,

well dissolved in water (I used grapefruit juice for taste) to relieve

attacks. They said, however, that it was only a " bandaid fix " to relieve an

attack

till I was able to do a full flush. However, it was a lifesaver, because I was

able to try this simple remedy whenever I had an attack - I was getting attacks

once every few days at that point. It provided great relief in the period

before I had a free weekend to try a flush protocol with which I was

comfortable.

Epsom salts has the effect of relaxing the GB and bile ducts and this

concoction relieved my pain within 15 minutes. If you decide to try this at the

onset

of an attack, expect a good dose of watery stools and stay close to a

bathroom for a few hours afterwards. Epsoms also cleanse the digestive tract, so

don't be alarmed at this, because it is a really good way to relieve the back-up

pressure in the colon from any built-up waste which generally adds to GB

problems.

Congratulations on your weight loss and amazing will power!

Peace, n

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----- Original Message -----

From: " marissa_hammer2000 " <hammermarissa@...>

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Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:12 PM

Subject: gallstone attacks,

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My name is Marissa and I'm 20 year old.

> I recently lost 125 pounds in 7 months and got Gallstones.

> There is a 6 month waiting list for surgery, and I find myself

> counting down the days with a marker on my calender.

> I get an offical gallstone attack once a week, and it is soo painful

> that I've thought once or twice to just grab a knife and take it out

> myself!! LOL

> I don't eat anything thats high in fats, I'm on Weight Watchers, and

> I still get horrible attacks.

>

> I wanted to know if anyone has any advice that they can give me to

> get through an attack. I've tried taking Tylonal, Advil, NOTHING

> worked!

>

> If anyone could help, I would sooooo appricate it!!!

>

> THANK YOU!

>

>

> Marissa

>

> Hi Marissa,

Let us hope that a 6 month waiting list for surgery turns out to be a

blessing not a curse. Here are a few things that you can try so that you do

not have the attack in the first place. Magnesium is relaxing to smooth

muscle and may help to keep that naughty little puppy from misbehaving.

Magnesium malate being the best because it is bonded with malic acid which

is softening to the stones. Take lots. It will bring fluid to the stool,

but it probably would not be too bad for your bowels to go liquid

temporarily, just warning you. Wild cherry bark and apricot pit are both

smooth muscle relaxants and one or the other would help in keeping the bad

dog from barking. Jamaican dogwood bark is both an anti-spasmodic and pain

reliever too, expensive but the big guns (in case of an attack may be quite

relieving)( the genus is " piscidia " for it's traditional use of stunning

fish in the tropics so you need to be careful: unless you want to float

upside down in the bathtub for half an hour.).

The archives and other people on the group are full of great flushing

ideas and I would strongly recommend considering trying to get rid of the

marbles in that bag. Avoiding fats may prevent the stimulus but will be

counter productive in moving bile through the system. Good luck, always, in

all ways, -Dave

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Meydrech, CN " <journey2health@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:29 PM

Subject: Re: gallstone attacks,

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> Marissa,

>

> A

> single egg can be a real killer.

One study showed that eggs produced an attack in 95% of gallbladder

sufferers when consumed. -Dave

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