/kefir

[Guest guest]

, I no longer have a supply of raw goat's milk for kefir (and oh, do I

miss it!) without a lot of traveling and with the gas prices the way that they

are ... and my limited budget ... However, I can get pasteurized goat's milk.

Have you ever tried making kefir with that?

Lori

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori,

I've never made kefir but many people make it with

pasteurized/cooked milk.

There are many recipes online.

I buy it from a specialty store where it's raw and

organic.

Private membership, secret location.

When I don't want to make the drive I get it at

wholefoods or Erewhon.

The ones from the store are made from pasteurized goat

milk but you'll still get plenty of the benefits.

California and Arizona are the only states allowed to

produce raw dairy products and they have to pass the

same tests as standardized cooked/pasteurized dairy.

In order to pass the same tests as cooked/pasteurized

milk can you imagine how clean this raw milk has to

be? (they have to be super clean).

The other states---NO !!!! and that's a good thing

especially states like Texas where they have thousands

of animals piled on top of each other in a lot, in

unsanitary conditions and especially where so much

puss ends up in the milk, drinking it raw would

probably kill you.

I wouldn't consume any raw dairy that's not organic

and the animals need to be grass fed if they are cows

and there needs to be a smalll number where people are

catering to them individually and they need to be free

range, roaming around in the sun not locked up in

cages, catching diseases and being pumped with

steroids/hormones, antibiotics etc.

Start talking to the farmer's in your area, go to your

local farmer's market.

That's what I did.

I started talking and asking questions and I found out

about places under the radar

Many places to get raw dairy are secret.

Ask around in your area, you'll be surprised.

http://www.kefir.net/recipes.htm

link above for recipe

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[Guest guest]

Wow, if you could find a source close by of Kefir grains, they are far superior

to the stuff that is sold and you can make it yourself and it's easy once it's

reconstituted -- just brewed overnight at room temperature. Most of the time

they're free because folks who have the grains love to share and merely charge

for postage to ship.

Lori

----- Original Message -----

From: denise milfort

gallstones

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:55 PM

Subject: Re: /kefir

Hi Lori,

I've never made kefir