Re: Re: Preventing gallbladder rupture: Any supplements?

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Wait a minute Tina

You say you use a " jar " of crushed garlic? No, I think you have to crush the

garlic fresh or it isn't the same.

And you have to take it mixed with a bit of olive oil. It's sharp, but maybe

it'll help. Maybe we should ask

Dr. Shulze, because he's the one that recommends it.

My lipid profile is very high. I have beetroot tablets and a whole load of

other things like " Stone Dissolve Tea " , but

I am going to try one at a time. I have not done any standard olive oil/lemon

juice flushes yet. Rather than

flush the stones out, I think we have to " dissolve " them. I have temporarily

discontinued the Chinese herbs

until I have tried a few other things.

Tina, for how long have you had this gallbladder condition?

Mine is now running on close to 1 year. The trouble is, after repeated bouts of

inflammation due to the stones,

the gallbladder becomes small, fibrotic and necrotic. This is the condition

they call " chronic cholecystitis " .

It isn't clear whether the pain of a gallbladder attack is due to the GB

contracting over the stones, or whether it

is due to a stone actually leaving the GB and getting stuck at the sphincter of

Oddi where the common bile duct meets

the intestine, or both. In any case, many of us have a GB liable to rupture

into peritonitis if we just eat fats like other

people, which is why the doctors have such a good excuse to remove the GB.

You said you also had OA (osteoarthritis). I also suffered from this for many

years, and only recently overcame

it with topical Chinese skin patches available from Wei Labs (www.weilab.com)

It appears the patches

are able to induce real regeneration of the intervertebral disks, you can check

it out.

And you said you had eye floaters? I had previously been suffering from those

too, and even got a

retinal detachment in one eye. The doctors told me the vitreous in the human

eye was " useless " and

" people should have been born without it " . Back then, I believed them so

implicitly, that when I

started seeing flashes, I pulled the eye with my hand to try and " detach " the

vitreous from the

retina. I ended up helping to detach not only the vitreous but also the retina

from the eyewall, which

cost me an operation in Switzerland. Now, I found out that the vitreous is the

most " useful " thing

in your eye because it is the only thing that protects the retina and keeps it

on the eye wall,

in total contradiction to the statement in all the university textbooks (I still

have the floaters of course).

In the same way, doctors say the gallbladder is " expendable " .

Many of these problems share the common element of " dehydration " , due to loss of

hyaluronic acid

(HA) and water. HA and glycosaminoglucans are the only way we have to hold

water in our bodies.

Hyaluronic acid supplements exist, although HA has also been implicated in

assisting metastasis of

cancer cells into basal membranes, so you wonder what to do....

The Chinese herbalist told me that sitting in front of the computer all day (and

night) has exposed me

to EMF (electromagnetic radiation), which has evaporated the water from my

internal organs.

I've literally been fried, hence the vitreous floaters and the gallbladder

problem.

I just bought an Italian apron from New York (www.lessemf.com) which has steel

mesh inside to

block the EMF. Maybe your problems are also partly due to over-bombardment with

computer EMF?

So, finally, the issue of the gallbladder boils down to dissolving the stones,

quelling the inflammation,

opening the GB to allow free access of bile in and out, and restoring the

elasticity and function of the

gallbladder wall which has become fibrotic and necrotic. The necrosis is

apparently due to

arterial thrombosis of one of the arteries that terminate at the GB. That's a

terribly difficult set of problems

to overcome all on our own.

I am aware of a slight discomfort at times in the gallbladder area, because

there is now a " cyst "

there. Dr. Wei of weilab.com says he has a Chinese herbal product (Mei

Mei pill) for women's fibroids

which might be able to break down the fiber and restore the normal elasticity of

the GB, assuming that we

can first get rid of the stones which are causing the inflammation. Or maybe we

could even start taking it

right now. I don't know whether a man should take it however if it does this

via a hormonal mechanism,

but being a woman you should be OK. If it works, the results should show up on

ultrasound. I don't know

whether he's had any other successes on this seemingly untreatable disease. As

usual, the " orthodox "

doctors show no interest whatever in trying to save this important organ, which

makes it questionable as

to whether we should even call them " doctors " any more. In my opinion, the

medical profession no longer

has any right to practice. And there are myriads of " alternative " products out

there which target the stones,

but nothing to try and restore the tissue of the gallbladder to normality -

unless the Mei Mei pill

works.

I do apologize for such a long post, but I hope it invites discussion from other

group members.

I am also sending a copy to Wei of Wei Labs. to keep him updated as to

the overall

disease syndrome which some of us are experiencing, the specific issues to be

resolved, and

what we are trying to do to get back to normality.

----- Original Message -----

From: tina83862

gallstones

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:40 AM

Subject: Re: Preventing gallbladder rupture: Any supplements?

yes--I am being totally honest--we Italians use garlic and onions in

almost everything we make--from salads, soups, sauces. I go through a

big jar of crushed at least once a month or more (the size you buy at

Costco). And I bake whole cloves in the oven and even grow it in my

yard---.

My great grandfather would eat it raw everyday.

So I don't know but will continue to figure out why I have them.

It's very weird because my lipid profile is very low as well---

cholesterol at 156 --hdl at 54 --ldl at 86 and ratio at 2.9--range

starts at ( 2.5 to 4.5) my triglycerides are 88 --so go figure.

It must be my low acid ---???????

I just ordered these products and I am going to do another flush in a

week (doing them two weeks apart) I am still in pain after two of

them. Has anyone used these products?? thanks tina

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