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Hi ,

Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have!

Doing something that helps strengthen their back/side

muscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thing

they can do to keep their spines supported by their

own body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,

physically, who do very well in martial arts and

fencing and other very physical sports. We have a

gold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (in

the Utah Winter games in her age division) here. She

is a VEPTR patient! Very cool.

Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices are

no trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves of

trampolines) and no full-contact football. He can do

many other sports and other physically challenging

things. I would imagine that Ian would have even

fewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)

because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants or

anything that would potentially damage the spine from

inside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as he

stays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)

he'll be fine.

Carmell

mom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL,

GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic

insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96),

missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic

constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney,

ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic

bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion,

clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single

umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc.

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Thanks for the input Carmell. Interesting about the trampoline, but it makes sense...I'm sure it jars the spine.

I will be sure to see what Dr. K says the next time we are up there.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Re: contact sports

Hi ,Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have! Doing something that helps strengthen their back/sidemuscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thingthey can do to keep their spines supported by theirown body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,physically, who do very well in martial arts andfencing and other very physical sports. We have agold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (inthe Utah Winter games in her age division) here. Sheis a VEPTR patient! Very cool.Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices areno trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves oftrampolines) and no full-contact football. He can domany other sports and other physically challengingthings. I would imagine that Ian would have evenfewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants oranything that would potentially damage the spine frominside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as hestays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)he'll be fine.Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/__________________________________________________

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We have been told no contact sports like football and hockey. Also, because has torticollis that has her head tipping the opposite direction of her spinal curve, no gymnastics.

She swims and has started dance class.

Gail

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Hi ,Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have! Doing something that helps strengthen their back/sidemuscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thingthey can do to keep their spines supported by theirown body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,physically, who do very well in martial arts andfencing and other very physical sports. We have agold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (inthe Utah Winter games in her age division) here. Sheis a VEPTR patient! Very cool.Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices areno trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves oftrampolines) and no full-contact football. He can domany other sports and other physically challengingthings. I would imagine that Ian would have evenfewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants oranything that would potentially damage the spine frominside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as hestays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)he'll be fine.Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/__________________________________________________

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Do you think she would have more restrictions since she has the VEPTR versus someone like Ian who has only been casted?

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Re: contact sports

Hi ,Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have! Doing something that helps strengthen their back/sidemuscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thingthey can do to keep their spines supported by theirown body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,physically, who do very well in martial arts andfencing and other very physical sports. We have agold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (inthe Utah Winter games in her age division) here. Sheis a VEPTR patient! Very cool.Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices areno trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves oftrampolines) and no full-contact football. He can domany other sports and other physically challengingthings. I would imagine that Ian would have evenfewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants oranything that would potentially damage the spine frominside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as hestays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)he'll be fine.Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/__________________________________________________

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Possibly because with the VEPTR she has those rods that could potentially, although I think it would be difficult, break.

I would ask your ortho. I can only go by what we have been told for .

gAil

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Hi ,Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have! Doing something that helps strengthen their back/sidemuscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thingthey can do to keep their spines supported by theirown body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,physically, who do very well in martial arts andfencing and other very physical sports. We have agold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (inthe Utah Winter games in her age division) here. Sheis a VEPTR patient! Very cool.Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices areno trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves oftrampolines) and no full-contact football. He can domany other sports and other physically challengingthings. I would imagine that Ian would have evenfewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants oranything that would potentially damage the spine frominside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as hestays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)he'll be fine.Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/__________________________________________________

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Thanks Gail. I will definitely ask at our next appt.

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Re: contact sports

Hi ,Exercise is the BEST therapy our scoli kids can have! Doing something that helps strengthen their back/sidemuscles, and keep them well-balanced is the best thingthey can do to keep their spines supported by theirown body. I know some kids who are seemingly fragile,physically, who do very well in martial arts andfencing and other very physical sports. We have agold-medal winner in the downhill ski competition (inthe Utah Winter games in her age division) here. Sheis a VEPTR patient! Very cool.Braydon's ONLY restrictions with his VEPTR devices areno trampoline (I don't think any ortho approves oftrampolines) and no full-contact football. He can domany other sports and other physically challengingthings. I would imagine that Ian would have evenfewer restrictions (maybe mother-imposed restrictions)because he doesn't have any foreign-body implants oranything that would potentially damage the spine frominside. Ask the ortho, but I'm sure as long as hestays healthy and strong (strong being the goal!)he'll be fine.Carmellmom to Kara 19, idiopathic scoliosis, Blake 15, GERD and Braydon 10, VACTERL, GERD, DGE, Titanium Rib Project patient #137 (dbl implant 8/01), thoracic insufficiency, rib anomalies, congenital scoliosis (fusion surgery 5/96), missing coccyx, fatty filum/TC (released 4/99), anal stenosis, chronic constipation, horseshoe (cross-fused) kidney, dbl ureter in left kidney, ureterocele (excized 6/95), kidney reflux (reimplant surgery 1/97), neurogenic bladder, bilateral hip dysplasia, right leg/foot dyplasia, tibial torsion, clubfoot with 8 toes (reconstructed 2/96, 3/96, 1/97, 3/04), pes cavus, single umblilical artery, tonsil-adnoidectomy and ear tubes (3/98), etc. http://carmellb-ivil.tripod.com/myfamily/__________________________________________________

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Yes, yes, yes!! There is hope. Don't give up on this. Treatment can bring back

the abilities to play and play well. I hope you find a treatment routine that

works--but yes, don't give up. Keeping active is wonderful in helping the joints

to stay active etc and much more fun than therapy is.

e, mom to " joe " 21 poly/lupus

smiless87 <smiless87@...> wrote: Hello, My

son is almost 13 years old. He is waiting to see a

Rheumatologist at Sick Kids in Toronto. His pediatrician thinks

that he has Ankylosing Spondylitis. He's exhibiting all the

symptoms.

I know it it way too early to ask, but when (and if) can he play

contact sports again.

He is an elite hockey player and the last four months have been

really hard on him. He loves to play contact sports. I realize

that he is a long way from feeling better, however do children ever

play contact sports who have jra or Ankylosing Spondylitis?

He is currently in a lot of pain. His knees and chest are the worst

areas for him. They initially thought he was having heart problems,

then costochindritis, now jra. My road has been hard. A couple of

doctor's more or less thought we were crazy until one doctor thought

he was a classic case and had him seen by an eye doctor (he also can

have sever eye pain) and put on the urgent waiting list for sick

kids.

Just trying to see if I can attempt to lift his spirits...he's

normally a very active kid. This has been very hard on him.

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Kids certainly can play sports with arthritis and I do know there was

one boy at my son's high school who continued to play hockey. I did not

know him personally, but I do know a mom whose son played with him. The

young man did have some struggles and sometimes it was tough to

continue, but he did. For my son, he was a baseball and volleyball

player with aspirations of playing in high school, but the disease hit

him in eighth grade and by the time we got some meds to get him under

control, he had lost a lot of time and did not feel he could compete, as

his school had a very competitive sports program. It was very hard for

him to battle through and keep playing at the level he would have needed

to be at. He probably would have made the volleyball team in

junior/senior year, but he chose not to try. That was his choice. Your

son, with proper control of the disease, should be able to continue to

play hockey. Having had 3 kids involved in sports, and knowing the

dedication involved in elite sports (both of my daughters played elite

level volleyball), I do understand how hard it might be for your son.

The only mention the dr made of restricting sports came when Chris

complained of pain in his hips. At that point the rheumy said if he had

arthritis in his hips, certain sports would have to be stopped as they

caused too much damage to the joint. However, it was discovered that the

pain actually was from his pelvic rim and sacroiliac, which is when

spondylitis was diagnosed and the dr said it was fine to continue

playing. did continue with baseball and volleyball at that point

for a bit, but as I said he decided to stop because we could not get his

meds right and it was just too painful at that time. He was around 14

then and he was finally under good control around 16.

I would think that with good pain control your son should be able to

play. There is really no reason not too, unless the pain is too severe

and he just can't do it. But keeping active will definitely help the

tendons and joints to stay flexible. If your son can still skate

comfortably or at least get to a point where he can, hockey should be

doable. Like I said, the dr never said my son could not play sports

because he has spondylitis.

Please keep us updated as to how your son is doing, and welcome to the

group. There is lots of knowledge and compassion here, Michele (

20, spondy)

A website you might want to check out is www.spondylitis.org

<http://www.spondylitis.org/> There is some good info about the disease

there.

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Subject: Contact Sports

Hello, My son is almost 13 years old. He is waiting to see a

Rheumatologist at Sick Kids in Toronto. His pediatrician thinks

that he has Ankylosing Spondylitis. He's exhibiting all the

symptoms.

I know it it way too early to ask, but when (and if) can he play

contact sports again.

He is an elite hockey player and the last four months have been

really hard on him. He loves to play contact sports. I realize

that he is a long way from feeling better, however do children ever

play contact sports who have jra or Ankylosing Spondylitis?

He is currently in a lot of pain. His knees and chest are the worst

areas for him. They initially thought he was having heart problems,

then costochindritis, now jra. My road has been hard. A couple of

doctor's more or less thought we were crazy until one doctor thought

he was a classic case and had him seen by an eye doctor (he also can

have sever eye pain) and put on the urgent waiting list for sick

kids.

Just trying to see if I can attempt to lift his spirits...he's

normally a very active kid. This has been very hard on him.

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Our ped rheumy does not limit any activity. He says it is up to the

child. If it isn't too painful or you can manage the pain you can

play sports. My son has heel pain that we manage with heel pads in

his shoe. He plays basketball and still has some pain with it but

plays through it.

Hope your son will be back to hockey soon!

& Grant (11, PsA/Uveitis)

>

> Kids certainly can play sports with arthritis and I do know there

was

> one boy at my son's high school who continued to play hockey. I

did not

> know him personally, but I do know a mom whose son played with

him. The

> young man did have some struggles and sometimes it was tough to

> continue, but he did. For my son, he was a baseball and volleyball

> player with aspirations of playing in high school, but the disease

hit

> him in eighth grade and by the time we got some meds to get him

under

> control, he had lost a lot of time and did not feel he could

compete, as

> his school had a very competitive sports program. It was very hard

for

> him to battle through and keep playing at the level he would have

needed

> to be at. He probably would have made the volleyball team in

> junior/senior year, but he chose not to try. That was his choice.

Your

> son, with proper control of the disease, should be able to

continue to

> play hockey. Having had 3 kids involved in sports, and knowing the

> dedication involved in elite sports (both of my daughters played

elite

> level volleyball), I do understand how hard it might be for your

son.

>

> The only mention the dr made of restricting sports came when Chris

> complained of pain in his hips. At that point the rheumy said if

he had

> arthritis in his hips, certain sports would have to be stopped as

they

> caused too much damage to the joint. However, it was discovered

that the

> pain actually was from his pelvic rim and sacroiliac, which is when

> spondylitis was diagnosed and the dr said it was fine to continue

> playing. did continue with baseball and volleyball at that

point

> for a bit, but as I said he decided to stop because we could not

get his

> meds right and it was just too painful at that time. He was around

14

> then and he was finally under good control around 16.

>

> I would think that with good pain control your son should be able

to

> play. There is really no reason not too, unless the pain is too

severe

> and he just can't do it. But keeping active will definitely help

the

> tendons and joints to stay flexible. If your son can still skate

> comfortably or at least get to a point where he can, hockey should

be

> doable. Like I said, the dr never said my son could not play sports

> because he has spondylitis.

>

> Please keep us updated as to how your son is doing, and welcome to

the

> group. There is lots of knowledge and compassion here, Michele

(

> 20, spondy)

>

> A website you might want to check out is www.spondylitis.org

> <http://www.spondylitis.org/> There is some good info about the

disease

> there.

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of smiless87

> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:21 AM

>

> Subject: Contact Sports

>

>

>

> Hello, My son is almost 13 years old. He is waiting to see a

> Rheumatologist at Sick Kids in Toronto. His pediatrician thinks

> that he has Ankylosing Spondylitis. He's exhibiting all the

> symptoms.

>

> I know it it way too early to ask, but when (and if) can he play

> contact sports again.

>

> He is an elite hockey player and the last four months have been

> really hard on him. He loves to play contact sports. I realize

> that he is a long way from feeling better, however do children

ever

> play contact sports who have jra or Ankylosing Spondylitis?

>

> He is currently in a lot of pain. His knees and chest are the

worst

> areas for him. They initially thought he was having heart

problems,

> then costochindritis, now jra. My road has been hard. A couple of

> doctor's more or less thought we were crazy until one doctor

thought

> he was a classic case and had him seen by an eye doctor (he also

can

> have sever eye pain) and put on the urgent waiting list for sick

> kids.

>

> Just trying to see if I can attempt to lift his spirits...he's

> normally a very active kid. This has been very hard on him.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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To add to that, our rheumy said that JRA is " self limiting " - meaning your

symptoms dictate what you can and can't do.? With this said, I am not going to

pretend that my son listens to what his body is telling him - he will play

baseball through the pain - and push himself - and pay for it later.? But, when

he is flaring and is unable to function it's a totally different story.? But all

in all, I think that he knows how much he can take - and quite frankly, with a

flare coming on, playing baseball or not in the last couple of days that he is

functional before a flare has little to do with how bad his flare is or how long

it lasts.? That has been our experience. would rather play baseball than

do anything else.? Keeping mobile has it's benefits - even when it over-tires

him, and with his bone density issues, the weight baring exercise is so very

important for his health.

Val

Rob's Mom (10,systemic)

Contact Sports

>

>

>

> Hello, My son is almost 13 years old. He is waiting to see a

> Rheumatologist at Sick Kids in Toronto. His pediatrician thinks

> that he has Ankylosing Spondylitis. He's exhibiting all the

> symptoms.

>

> I know it it way too early to ask, but when (and if) can he play

> contact sports again.

>

> He is an elite hockey player and the last four months have been

> really hard on him. He loves to play contact sports. I realize

> that he is a long way from feeling better, however do children

ever

> play contact sports who have jra or Ankylosing Spondylitis?

>

> He is currently in a lot of pain. His knees and chest are the

worst

> areas for him. They initially thought he was having heart

problems,

> then costochindritis, now jra. My road has been hard. A couple of

> doctor's more or less thought we were crazy until one doctor

thought

> he was a classic case and had him seen by an eye doctor (he also

can

> have sever eye pain) and put on the urgent waiting list for sick

> kids.

>

> Just trying to see if I can attempt to lift his spirits...he's

> normally a very active kid. This has been very hard on him.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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