Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I just want to send hugs to everyone out there. The disease is horrible and the decisions are hard to make on what med's to try and like it has been said the med's affect everyone differently. I have been at a loss on what to do and I don't think my daughter is in the " worse " case scenario at this point but it is enough to take...on top of it she has hearing loss in her left ear (sensioneural/which means it is permanent and severe at the higher frequencies). We had just gotten situated with it one year ago from her diagnosis of JRA. I wonder what next near will bring??? I am also wondering if any kids out there have hearing loss and JRA. Our daughter failed her newborn hearing screening...but managed to pass afterwards and had a normal if not early speech pattern. It wasn't til she started kindergarten that we caught the hearing loss. It wasn't even the school that caught it, but us as parents questioning over and over her asking to repeat things. Our most recent concern was that stareted out in mid March with swollen knuckles on the middle three fingers on both hands...(of course after that she complained of her kneck and toes hurting). Anyway...she immediately started on naproxen with our pediatrician who ordered all the necessary tests. got her diagnosis on 6/5/08. However...it wasn't til a couple of weeks ago that I was at the audiologist and mentioned her diagnosis. Her audiologist asked if her hearings has changed from what we have noticed since she started naproxen. I found out that NSAID's are known to cause hearing loss (it is NOT something you should worry about with a child with normal hearing). However, since already has hearing loss.......she probably shouldnt' be on it. I just feel like I need help...and if ANYONE can provide ANY input it would be great. is on MTX. Her rheumatologist said to back her off of the naproxen to an as needed basis....since I pointed this out (not to mention I mentioned her hearing loss at her FIRST appt). Anyway...it is all completely exhausting and just want to send you all hugs and hope someone can provide me some insight. Hugs Jen (, 7, Poly) different drugs question-SCARED again! > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > Hi all, > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being put on > MTX and how I > was scared of all the side effects. You were all wonderful > and told your > stories about it and it helped me feel better about putting > her on it. Well > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver damage so > we had to take > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her huge and > still does not > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to try > Enbrel injections > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of the > drugs as I think it is > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice since > she is so sick without > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just as bad > at MTX did even > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer and > pneumonia among many > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > experience with this drug > for your children and what happened with them while on it. > I'm also scared > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test her > liver before starting > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are the > early symptoms of > the drug causing problems I should watch for? I'm just > so apprehensive to > give her more poison to suppress her immune system into not > knowing it is > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > Thanks > Kim > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi Jen, Maggie does have hearing loss in both ears, but it is conductive so more of the low pitch sounds (male voices and such). This was attributed to her OI (brittle bone disease) the Stapes' in her ears are fixed or frozen, she has had surgery to try and correct the problem but it failed. She has bright purple hearing aides that sparkle they are the most beautiful things in the world...she picked them out....she hates them!She almost NEVER wears them! She claims they pick up annoying sounds like the air conditioner and such but not the things she wants to hear....like the TV. I am not sure if JRA and hearing loss are connected, I also did not know that those who have hearing loss should be concerned about NSAIDS, Maggie is on 200mgs of Celebrex a day. She has been on this dose since last spring. I suppose there are more side effects to medications then even the doctor's are aware of sometimes. I think the hardest thing I have overcome was to learn to put my trust into the lap of Maggie's doctors. Eventually I have come to the conclusion either I fully trust her doctor, or I move on. I do still question a lot of the choices that they make and I never let go of that gut feeling that a mom gets when they know something just doesn't sound,look or feel right. I was sad too when I found out that Maggie had hearing loss, doubly sad when I let them put her through Major surgery that was horrible and painful only to find out they could not repair the bones. I was happy when I found out that hearing aides would help her to hear those sounds that she was missing...angry that she will not wear the aides....and so on. I think when your child has a chronic illness, you get on a roller coaster of ups and downs and even a few loops once and awhile. It's ever changing and always emotional. Thanks for the info on the NSAIDS, I wish I could help you on the hearing loss. You will be in our thoughts and prayers! Hang in there! Sending Hugs from Iowa! Diane and Maggie age 11 (OI,CP,Systemic JIA,Uveitis,PIDD) > > > From: Kim Newman <kim.newman@...> > > Subject: different drugs question-SCARED > again! > > > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > > Hi all, > > > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being > put on > > MTX and how I > > was scared of all the side effects. You were all > wonderful > > and told your > > stories about it and it helped me feel better about > putting > > her on it. Well > > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver > damage so > > we had to take > > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her > huge and > > still does not > > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to > try > > Enbrel injections > > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of > the > > drugs as I think it is > > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice > since > > she is so sick without > > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just > as bad > > at MTX did even > > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer > and > > pneumonia among many > > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > > experience with this drug > > for your children and what happened with them while > on it. > > I'm also scared > > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test > her > > liver before starting > > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are > the > > early symptoms of > > the drug causing problems I should watch for? > I'm just > > so apprehensive to > > give her more poison to suppress her immune system > into not > > knowing it is > > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > > > Thanks > > Kim > > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi Jen, Maggie does have hearing loss in both ears, but it is conductive so more of the low pitch sounds (male voices and such). This was attributed to her OI (brittle bone disease) the Stapes' in her ears are fixed or frozen, she has had surgery to try and correct the problem but it failed. She has bright purple hearing aides that sparkle they are the most beautiful things in the world...she picked them out....she hates them!She almost NEVER wears them! She claims they pick up annoying sounds like the air conditioner and such but not the things she wants to hear....like the TV. I am not sure if JRA and hearing loss are connected, I also did not know that those who have hearing loss should be concerned about NSAIDS, Maggie is on 200mgs of Celebrex a day. She has been on this dose since last spring. I suppose there are more side effects to medications then even the doctor's are aware of sometimes. I think the hardest thing I have overcome was to learn to put my trust into the lap of Maggie's doctors. Eventually I have come to the conclusion either I fully trust her doctor, or I move on. I do still question a lot of the choices that they make and I never let go of that gut feeling that a mom gets when they know something just doesn't sound,look or feel right. I was sad too when I found out that Maggie had hearing loss, doubly sad when I let them put her through Major surgery that was horrible and painful only to find out they could not repair the bones. I was happy when I found out that hearing aides would help her to hear those sounds that she was missing...angry that she will not wear the aides....and so on. I think when your child has a chronic illness, you get on a roller coaster of ups and downs and even a few loops once and awhile. It's ever changing and always emotional. Thanks for the info on the NSAIDS, I wish I could help you on the hearing loss. You will be in our thoughts and prayers! Hang in there! Sending Hugs from Iowa! Diane and Maggie age 11 (OI,CP,Systemic JIA,Uveitis,PIDD) > > > From: Kim Newman <kim.newman@...> > > Subject: different drugs question-SCARED > again! > > > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > > Hi all, > > > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being > put on > > MTX and how I > > was scared of all the side effects. You were all > wonderful > > and told your > > stories about it and it helped me feel better about > putting > > her on it. Well > > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver > damage so > > we had to take > > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her > huge and > > still does not > > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to > try > > Enbrel injections > > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of > the > > drugs as I think it is > > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice > since > > she is so sick without > > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just > as bad > > at MTX did even > > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer > and > > pneumonia among many > > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > > experience with this drug > > for your children and what happened with them while > on it. > > I'm also scared > > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test > her > > liver before starting > > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are > the > > early symptoms of > > the drug causing problems I should watch for? > I'm just > > so apprehensive to > > give her more poison to suppress her immune system > into not > > knowing it is > > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > > > Thanks > > Kim > > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi Jen, So sorry, to hear this latest news. Hearing loss as a side effect is rare ... but not unheard of. Often, the hearing loss tends to be temporary. Not sure, with your daughter's prior hearing issues, how that may effect things. I guess only time will tell. A quick Google search turned up the following article. Not a pediatric case but still informative. Sending virtual hugs to you and , Aloha, Georgina Case report: Naproxen-associated sudden sensorineural hearing loss McKinnon, J LCDR J. McKinnon, MC USN* CAPT Lorenz F. Lassen, MC USN* Naproxen is a commonly used nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) whose side effects include tinnitus and transient hearing loss. Sudden sensorineural hearing loss has rarely been reported as a result of NSAID use. This usually occurs in patients taking other ototoxic medications, with poor renal function, or with autoimmune disease. This article reports the case of an otherwise healthy patient who experienced permanent sensorineural hearing loss after a brief course of naproxen and reviews the literature on NSAID-related permanent sensorineural hearing loss. Introduction Naproxen is a commonly used nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that is generally considered effective, safe, and well tolerated. It is available both by prescription and as an over-the-counter medication. A propionic acid derivative related to ibuprofen, its anti-inflammatory effects are thought to be from the inhibition of cyclooxygenase and the resultant decrease of prostaglandin synthesis. Naproxen is completely absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract and is 99% bound to the serum. Although temporary ototoxic side effects (tinnitus with occasional transient hearing loss and/or vertigo) have been reported to occur in 1 to 9% of patients,' sensorineural hearing loss from the use of naproxen is rare.2-5 Case Report An otherwise healthy 35-year-old African-American woman was prescribed naproxen (500 mg by mouth twice a day) for low-back pain. Forty-eight hours after the first naproxen dose, she experienced bilateral hearing loss, tinnitus, otalgia, intolerance to loud noise, and dizziness. She was seen by a primary care physician and referred to an otolaryngologist. Head and neck examination was normal. Audiometric evaluation showed moderate, bilateral sensorineural hearing loss (Fig. 1). A military reference audiogram, done several years earlier, was normal. Rotational chair vestibular examination was normal, and electronystagmography showed left-sided vestibular nerve weakness. Magnetic resonance imaging of the brain and internal auditory canals was normal. There was a slightly elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate (23 mm/h) and a weakly positive anti-nuclear antibody test (1:40). Raji cell assay was negative. Other laboratory studies (complete blood count, electrolytes, complement profile, microhemagglutination-treponema pallidum, and thyroid and liver function tests) were normal. The patient was given a 2-week course of prednisone (60 mg/d) without resolution of her symptoms. Follow-up 6 months later showed no significant improvement in hearing, tinnitus, or noise intolerance. At present, she uses bilateral hearing aides, but these are uncomfortable because of her poor dynamic range and hyperacusis. Discussion Although salicylates have been used since the 4th century BC, it was in 1877 who recognized the ototoxic effects of salicylates in high doses.3 Typically, the hearing loss is a temporary 20- to 40-dB threshold shift that is bilateral, symmetric, and sensorineural. Tinnitus usually accompanies hearing loss and is a result of this auditory distortion caused by alterations of cochlear neuron activity. Tinnitus may precede the development of sensorineural hearing loss.3 The mechanisms of naproxen's ototoxic effects have been suggested to be similar to those described for salicylates.35 Ototoxicity appears to be multifactorial.3 Salicylates and NSAIDs have been shown to increase levels of norepinephrine, decrease concentrations of prostaglandins, and increase leukotrienes in the perilymph.6 Decreased blood flow and cochlear hemorrhage (which may be influenced by catecholamines and arachidonic metabolites) have been suggested as occurring in salicylate and NSAID ototoxicity.3-6 Reversible morphologic changes to cochlear outer hair cells have been observed that may result from changes in cellular permeability.3 Physiologic evidence of cochlear outer hair cell injury is strongly supported by diminished otoacoustic emission activity during salicylate toxicity.3 Several reports of permanent sensorineural hearing loss associated with either salicylates or NSAIDs describe individuals who had underlying renal dysfunction, rheumatoid arthritis, polyarteritis nodosa, advanced age, or the use of NSAIDs with other potentially ototoxic medications.2'8 In 1982, Chapman2 reported five patients who developed sensorineural hearing loss while taking naproxen; only two patients completely recovered after stopping the medication. Chapman implicated impaired renal function as a cofactor in one patient with permanent hearing loss. Similar adverse reactions have been reported with piroxicam7 and ketoralac.1 The patient described here had a slightly elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and a weakly positive anti-nuclear antibody test. Although there were no other signs or symptoms of autoimmune disease, she could have had a subclinical early autoimmune problem. Kastanioudakis et al. evaluated 45 patients with rheumatoid arthritis and observed a 35.5% incidence of mild symmetric bilateral sensorineural hearing loss.9 There was no correlation of hearing loss with drug therapy (which included NSAIDs, D-penicillamine, plaquenil, and methotrexate), age, sex, disease duration, articular and extra-articular manifestation, or the presence of autoantibodies. Hence, the significance of the minimally abnormal anti-nuclear antibody test and erythrocyte sedimentation rate in an otherwise healthy individual to the development of sudden hearing loss is difficult to interpret. Conclusions That salicylates and NSAIDs can cause reversible sensorineural hearing loss is well known to most health care providers. What is not as well appreciated is that NSAID-induced sensorineural hearing loss can be permanent. Cofactors may include renal disease and autoimmune disorders. Clearly, the prescribing health care provider should ask the patient about such conditions and warn of hearing loss as a potential side effect. That the first symptom of sensorineural hearing loss from NSAIDs is tinnitus should be communicated to the patient. The patient should be told to immediately discontinue NSAIDs and seek help should tinnitus or distorted hearing develop. References 1. Clinical Pharmacology. Gold Standard Multimedia, 1997. 2. Chapman P: Naproxen and sudden hearing loss. J Laryngol Otol 1982; 96: 163-6. 3. Jung TI, Choi DC, Park YS, Lee CS, Rhee CK: Ototoxicity of salicylate, nonsteroldal antiinflammatory drugs, and quinine. Otolaryngol Clin North Am 1993; 26: 791-810. 4. Brien JA: Ototoxicity associated with salicylates: a brief review. Drug Saf 1993; 9: 143-8. Seligmann H, Goldsher M, Fradis M, Ben- J, Podoshin L: Drug-induced tinnitus and other hearing disorders. Drug Saf 1996; 14: 198-212. Jung IT, Baer W, Park YM, Woo HY, Rozehnal S, SK: Effect of round window membrane application of salicylate and indomethacin on hearing and levels of arachidonic acid metabolites in perilymph. Acta Oto-Laryngol Suppl 1992; 493: 81-7. Vernick DM, JH: Sudden hearing loss associated with piroxicam. Am J Otol 1986; 7: 97-8. Schaab KC, Setzen G, Dickinson ET: Acute sensorineural hearing loss following intravenous ketoralac administration. J Emerg Med 1995;13: 509-13. Kastanioudakis I, Moustopoulos MH, Drosos AA, Tsiakou E, idis V, Skevas A: Inner ear involvement in rheumatoid arthritis: a prospective clinical study. J laryngol Otol 1995; 109: 713-8. *Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA 23708-2197. t Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery. Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA 23507-1912. The views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Navy, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government. Reprint requests: LCDR J. McKinnon, MC USN, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery (Code 0609), 630 Circle, Portsmouth, VA 23708-2197. This manuscript was received for review in December 1997 and was accepted for publication in March 1998. Copyright Association of Military Surgeons of the U.S. Nov 1998 Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved different drugs question-SCARED again! > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > Hi all, > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being put on > MTX and how I > was scared of all the side effects. You were all wonderful > and told your > stories about it and it helped me feel better about putting > her on it. Well > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver damage so > we had to take > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her huge and > still does not > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to try > Enbrel injections > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of the > drugs as I think it is > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice since > she is so sick without > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just as bad > at MTX did even > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer and > pneumonia among many > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > experience with this drug > for your children and what happened with them while on it. > I'm also scared > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test her > liver before starting > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are the > early symptoms of > the drug causing problems I should watch for? I'm just > so apprehensive to > give her more poison to suppress her immune system into not > knowing it is > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > Thanks > Kim > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi Jen, So sorry, to hear about this latest news. Hearing loss as a side effect is rare ... but not unheard of. Often, this type of hearing loss tends to be temporary. Not sure with your daughter's prior hearing issues, how that may effect things. I guess only time will tell. But we definitely will hope for the best outcome. A quick Google search turned up the following article. Not a pediatric case but still informative. Sending virtual hugs to you and , Aloha, Georgina Case report: Naproxen-associated sudden sensorineural hearing loss McKinnon, J LCDR J. McKinnon, MC USN* CAPT Lorenz F. Lassen, MC USN* Naproxen is a commonly used nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) whose side effects include tinnitus and transient hearing loss. Sudden sensorineural hearing loss has rarely been reported as a result of NSAID use. This usually occurs in patients taking other ototoxic medications, with poor renal function, or with autoimmune disease. This article reports the case of an otherwise healthy patient who experienced permanent sensorineural hearing loss after a brief course of naproxen and reviews the literature on NSAID-related permanent sensorineural hearing loss. Introduction Naproxen is a commonly used nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that is generally considered effective, safe, and well tolerated. It is available both by prescription and as an over-the-counter medication. A propionic acid derivative related to ibuprofen, its anti-inflammatory effects are thought to be from the inhibition of cyclooxygenase and the resultant decrease of prostaglandin synthesis. Naproxen is completely absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract and is 99% bound to the serum. Although temporary ototoxic side effects (tinnitus with occasional transient hearing loss and/or vertigo) have been reported to occur in 1 to 9% of patients,' sensorineural hearing loss from the use of naproxen is rare.2-5 Case Report An otherwise healthy 35-year-old African-American woman was prescribed naproxen (500 mg by mouth twice a day) for low-back pain. Forty-eight hours after the first naproxen dose, she experienced bilateral hearing loss, tinnitus, otalgia, intolerance to loud noise, and dizziness. She was seen by a primary care physician and referred to an otolaryngologist. Head and neck examination was normal. Audiometric evaluation showed moderate, bilateral sensorineural hearing loss (Fig. 1). A military reference audiogram, done several years earlier, was normal. Rotational chair vestibular examination was normal, and electronystagmography showed left-sided vestibular nerve weakness. Magnetic resonance imaging of the brain and internal auditory canals was normal. There was a slightly elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate (23 mm/h) and a weakly positive anti-nuclear antibody test (1:40). Raji cell assay was negative. Other laboratory studies (complete blood count, electrolytes, complement profile, microhemagglutination-treponema pallidum, and thyroid and liver function tests) were normal. The patient was given a 2-week course of prednisone (60 mg/d) without resolution of her symptoms. Follow-up 6 months later showed no significant improvement in hearing, tinnitus, or noise intolerance. At present, she uses bilateral hearing aides, but these are uncomfortable because of her poor dynamic range and hyperacusis. Discussion Although salicylates have been used since the 4th century BC, it was in 1877 who recognized the ototoxic effects of salicylates in high doses.3 Typically, the hearing loss is a temporary 20- to 40-dB threshold shift that is bilateral, symmetric, and sensorineural. Tinnitus usually accompanies hearing loss and is a result of this auditory distortion caused by alterations of cochlear neuron activity. Tinnitus may precede the development of sensorineural hearing loss.3 The mechanisms of naproxen's ototoxic effects have been suggested to be similar to those described for salicylates.35 Ototoxicity appears to be multifactorial.3 Salicylates and NSAIDs have been shown to increase levels of norepinephrine, decrease concentrations of prostaglandins, and increase leukotrienes in the perilymph.6 Decreased blood flow and cochlear hemorrhage (which may be influenced by catecholamines and arachidonic metabolites) have been suggested as occurring in salicylate and NSAID ototoxicity.3-6 Reversible morphologic changes to cochlear outer hair cells have been observed that may result from changes in cellular permeability.3 Physiologic evidence of cochlear outer hair cell injury is strongly supported by diminished otoacoustic emission activity during salicylate toxicity.3 Several reports of permanent sensorineural hearing loss associated with either salicylates or NSAIDs describe individuals who had underlying renal dysfunction, rheumatoid arthritis, polyarteritis nodosa, advanced age, or the use of NSAIDs with other potentially ototoxic medications.2'8 In 1982, Chapman2 reported five patients who developed sensorineural hearing loss while taking naproxen; only two patients completely recovered after stopping the medication. Chapman implicated impaired renal function as a cofactor in one patient with permanent hearing loss. Similar adverse reactions have been reported with piroxicam7 and ketoralac.1 The patient described here had a slightly elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and a weakly positive anti-nuclear antibody test. Although there were no other signs or symptoms of autoimmune disease, she could have had a subclinical early autoimmune problem. Kastanioudakis et al. evaluated 45 patients with rheumatoid arthritis and observed a 35.5% incidence of mild symmetric bilateral sensorineural hearing loss.9 There was no correlation of hearing loss with drug therapy (which included NSAIDs, D-penicillamine, plaquenil, and methotrexate), age, sex, disease duration, articular and extra-articular manifestation, or the presence of autoantibodies. Hence, the significance of the minimally abnormal anti-nuclear antibody test and erythrocyte sedimentation rate in an otherwise healthy individual to the development of sudden hearing loss is difficult to interpret. Conclusions That salicylates and NSAIDs can cause reversible sensorineural hearing loss is well known to most health care providers. What is not as well appreciated is that NSAID-induced sensorineural hearing loss can be permanent. Cofactors may include renal disease and autoimmune disorders. Clearly, the prescribing health care provider should ask the patient about such conditions and warn of hearing loss as a potential side effect. That the first symptom of sensorineural hearing loss from NSAIDs is tinnitus should be communicated to the patient. The patient should be told to immediately discontinue NSAIDs and seek help should tinnitus or distorted hearing develop. References 1. Clinical Pharmacology. Gold Standard Multimedia, 1997. 2. Chapman P: Naproxen and sudden hearing loss. J Laryngol Otol 1982; 96: 163-6. 3. Jung TI, Choi DC, Park YS, Lee CS, Rhee CK: Ototoxicity of salicylate, nonsteroldal antiinflammatory drugs, and quinine. Otolaryngol Clin North Am 1993; 26: 791-810. 4. Brien JA: Ototoxicity associated with salicylates: a brief review. Drug Saf 1993; 9: 143-8. Seligmann H, Goldsher M, Fradis M, Ben- J, Podoshin L: Drug-induced tinnitus and other hearing disorders. Drug Saf 1996; 14: 198-212. Jung IT, Baer W, Park YM, Woo HY, Rozehnal S, SK: Effect of round window membrane application of salicylate and indomethacin on hearing and levels of arachidonic acid metabolites in perilymph. Acta Oto-Laryngol Suppl 1992; 493: 81-7. Vernick DM, JH: Sudden hearing loss associated with piroxicam. Am J Otol 1986; 7: 97-8. Schaab KC, Setzen G, Dickinson ET: Acute sensorineural hearing loss following intravenous ketoralac administration. J Emerg Med 1995;13: 509-13. Kastanioudakis I, Moustopoulos MH, Drosos AA, Tsiakou E, idis V, Skevas A: Inner ear involvement in rheumatoid arthritis: a prospective clinical study. J laryngol Otol 1995; 109: 713-8. *Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA 23708-2197. t Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery. Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA 23507-1912. The views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Navy, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government. Reprint requests: LCDR J. McKinnon, MC USN, Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, Department of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery (Code 0609), 630 Circle, Portsmouth, VA 23708-2197. This manuscript was received for review in December 1997 and was accepted for publication in March 1998. Copyright Association of Military Surgeons of the U.S. Nov 1998 Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved different drugs question-SCARED again! > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > Hi all, > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being put on > MTX and how I > was scared of all the side effects. You were all wonderful > and told your > stories about it and it helped me feel better about putting > her on it. Well > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver damage so > we had to take > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her huge and > still does not > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to try > Enbrel injections > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of the > drugs as I think it is > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice since > she is so sick without > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just as bad > at MTX did even > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer and > pneumonia among many > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > experience with this drug > for your children and what happened with them while on it. > I'm also scared > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test her > liver before starting > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are the > early symptoms of > the drug causing problems I should watch for? I'm just > so apprehensive to > give her more poison to suppress her immune system into not > knowing it is > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > Thanks > Kim > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Georgina, Thank you for the information...I appreciate it....so it sounds rare for NSAID's to cause hearing loss....but since she already has it, it makes me feel more cautious. Thanks Jen different drugs question-SCARED again! > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > Hi all, > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being put on > MTX and how I > was scared of all the side effects. You were all wonderful > and told your > stories about it and it helped me feel better about putting > her on it. Well > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver damage so > we had to take > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her huge and > still does not > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to try > Enbrel injections > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of the > drugs as I think it is > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice since > she is so sick without > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just as bad > at MTX did even > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer and > pneumonia among many > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > experience with this drug > for your children and what happened with them while on it. > I'm also scared > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test her > liver before starting > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are the > early symptoms of > the drug causing problems I should watch for? I'm just > so apprehensive to > give her more poison to suppress her immune system into not > knowing it is > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > Thanks > Kim > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Diane, Thank your for your note. I am sorry to hear of all that you and Maggie have been though with her hearing loss. You definitely have had a lot to deal with. 's hearing loss is only in her left ear at this point. She does wear her hearing aid which we got just a little over a year ago. It is a behind the ear hearing aid, which matches her blonde hair, but the mold is pink sparkly. The first time she put her hearing aid in at the office she said she was hearing a clicking noise (the airconditioner). Shortly after that I was flipping through a magazine and she said the pages clicked as I turned them. She even made a comment about the click when I fastened my seatbelt when we got in the car. I think it is harder for them at first as they pick up more of these unwanted/unneeded noises...but the brain eventually is supposed to learn to filter them out??? She wears it because it helps her and is a VERY stubborn little girl, but has agreed to this (thankfully). I know as a kid when I was in first grade I wouldn't wear glasses even with my horrible vision...so I am happy she will wear her aid. There is always so much to think about between the JRA and hearing loss (her hearing could get worse and they say to avoid contact sports, which right now she has no interest in sports anyway, but a hard hit to the ear could make her hearing worse, but of course we can't put her in a bubble). Thanks for all your kind words. Take care (, 7, poly) different drugs question-SCARED > again! > > > > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:20 PM > > Hi all, > > > > I posted a couple months ago about my daughter being > put on > > MTX and how I > > was scared of all the side effects. You were all > wonderful > > and told your > > stories about it and it helped me feel better about > putting > > her on it. Well > > after only 4 weeks on it she started to get liver > damage so > > we had to take > > her off and up her steroid dose which has made her > huge and > > still does not > > keep it all the way under control. Now they want to > try > > Enbrel injections > > once a week on her. I'm not happy about any of > the > > drugs as I think it is > > harmful to the body but we don't have a choice > since > > she is so sick without > > them. I read up on this drug and it scares me just > as bad > > at MTX did even > > worse since it could have the side effect of cancer > and > > pneumonia among many > > other things. Again I turn to you all to ask your > > experience with this drug > > for your children and what happened with them while > on it. > > I'm also scared > > to have to give her a shot myself. Should we test > her > > liver before starting > > the drug to make sure it is back to normal? What are > the > > early symptoms of > > the drug causing problems I should watch for? > I'm just > > so apprehensive to > > give her more poison to suppress her immune system > into not > > knowing it is > > being attacked. I just hate this whole damn thing! > > > > Thanks > > Kim > > (Kairi 3 years old-systemic) > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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