Ellie

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In a message dated 7/5/03 5:27:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Joanie -- your experience when " passes " in development -- I

> think Jon and will be having similar experiences soon..... 's

> brother is expecting his wife to have a baby any minute. Jon and

> haven't been around other babies much since Abbie was born, but Abbie and

> her little cousin will be together a lot.

>

> How in the world do you learn not to compare, to just see individuals as

> they are and not measure them beside other individuals? I have always been

> bad at that. I have always wanted to be, and wanted my children to be,

> smarter, prettier, stronger, faster than everyone else. I gloated inwardly

> if they sat, walked, read, or teethed earlier than someone else's child.

>

> I really need to learn that my family and I are no better and no worse than

> anyone else. Each of us is who we are.

>

> Amazing how a 10-pound little person can be changing a whole family's

> perspective on what's important.

>

> But I still wonder if people recognize right away that Abbie has DS.... and

> if they noticed her Noxzema-blue eyes and incredibly long eyelashes. What

> they register is surprise when they ask how old she is and are told, " 5

> months. " She's the size of a

> one-month-old and soft and relaxed like a baby that age. Not " floppy, " just

> soft.... like a kitten compared to a puppy. Holding other babies recently,

> I've thought, " Abbie cuddles more. " This feels lovely but it's because she

> doesn't support herself well, which hurts me. I think of her has being a lot

> younger than she is, which feels better.

>

> I hope I don't sound bitter. I was so pleased with myself at first because I

> felt that Abbie's DS didn't matter.... it was just something she had, like

> blue eyes and brown hair. But as she gets older I'm finding I need help in

> understanding and accepting after all. What a difficult realization that is.

>

> Ellie, learning in Western land

>

>

>

>

Ellie,

Congratulations on a beautiful grand baby!!!

My son is 14 years old. I don't mourn an idea of a perfect child.

is adopted and I knew he had ds. I mourn some of the things in life that he

will never experience. It hits unexpectedly. When my niece told me that she was

starting driver's ed I was sad for that he wouldn't be able to do that

( some kids with ds may be able to, not ). loves to go fast and

" drive " things. Anyway, I think that even though I love my child just the way he

is I am still sad at times because of opportunities that he won't have and

that some things are difficult for him. I think parents of non-ds kids have

these

moments at times, probably not as often though.

I also have a two year old. My mother, who is generally wonderful, has

recently begun commenting that , 2 year old, has passed in some areas.

I

know she doesn't mean anything mean by saying it but it doesn't feel good.

Comparing and is like comparing Apples and Oranges. I focus on things

that (and all the people that work with him) have worked hard on and

accomplished. Sometimes I think I am under-amazed at (although frequently

awestruck) because things come so easily to him.

You are a wonderful Grandma to work so hard at this.

Karyn

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My son is 14 years old. I don't mourn an idea of a perfect child.

is adopted and I knew he had ds. I mourn some of the things in life that he

will never experience. It hits unexpectedly. When my niece told me that she

was

starting driver's ed I was sad for that he wouldn't be able to do that

( some kids with ds may be able to, not ). loves to go fast and

" drive " things. Anyway, I think that even though I love my child just the way

he

is I am still sad at times because of opportunities that he won't have and

that some things are difficult for him. I think parents of non-ds kids have

these

moments at times, probably not as often though.

This is all really well-put, Karyn. I hope when I've been Abbie's grandma as

long as you've been 's mom, I'll have my issues as well-thought-out. I'm

very much a beginner at this.

I also have a two year old. My mother, who is generally wonderful, has

recently begun commenting that , 2 year old, has passed in some

areas. I

know she doesn't mean anything mean by saying it but it doesn't feel good.

Comparing and is like comparing Apples and Oranges.

I would guess this is her way of complimenting on what he does. I'm sure

she doesn't mean to put down or hurt you in any way. A little one feels

good when he's able to so something his big brother can do and like to be

congratulated about it. But it does have the effect of making the older child,

or his parents, feel mildly offended. It's a hard call, recognizing the

achievement of one child when another one has not been able to reach the same

achievement, or didn't do it as young, or something. I think that's something

parents have a lot; I know we did. As you said, though, it probably happens less

in families where the children don't struggle against congenital obstacles.

I'm so happy and relieved to have found this group that I'm posting a lot. I

won't monopolize it as much after I settle down a bit.

Ellie in Western land

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellie, welcome!

I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

What is your goal?

If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the endurance

training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens. From

what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program without

even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above listed

advice.

From reading posts here since January I understand that it's very

difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance training.

For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on to

that fat with every last bit of strength.

But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day and

get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and just

check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This program

will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will look so

much better.

I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of fat...

trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be my

back to basic month.

For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

Jami

[Guest guest]

Jami wrote:

>I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

>What is your goal? If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the

endurance

>training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

Hmmm... I guess I hadn't fully addressed that question here, had I?

Hoo, boy.... here's where the " you may have come to the wrong place " thought may

come up.

It's true that I'm running a marathon this weekend but that's not my ultimate

goal. It's a step along the way. What I'm actually training for is IronMan

Florida -- an ultra-distance triathlon featuring a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bike,

and 26.2-mile (full marathon) run. I did one last fall and I would like to do it

this year more comfortably, stronger, and maybe faster. If not faster, then

stronger and more comfortably with less fatigue works. I walked more than I'd

hoped during the " run " portion last year.

I can't ditch the endurance-training. All my training is cardio, and not very

intense, either -- just long.

My goal is to slim down some and tone/firm up some. I don't want to add a lot of

muscle but I do want a stronger upper body, better-defined arms, and less

padding around my waist, hips and thighs. The 15# is based pretty much on

" healthy " height-weight calculations, which of course don't take muscle into

account. I'm 5'1 " , 54 years old, and have yo-yo'd up and down between 120 and

150 for 20 years. 120 is what I want, based on how I know I look and perform at

that weight.

I'm just wondering, with all of my questions, what I can do to tweak both my

training and my diet to pare off the extra pounds, which presumably are fat

pounds. So I won't have to do my training and my triathlon carrying along the

equivalent of a large bag of kitty litter. It would make it easier. It would

also make it easier to get into my wetsuit, which currently takes me 5 minutes.

I'd like to cut it down to 3 :-)

I also want to learn more about BFL because many people at the gym where I work

follow it, and I want to be able to talk intelligently about it.

>It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program without

>even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

Well, yeah, I suppose so. I know the pure program isn't going to fit my current

endurance goals. As a matter of fact, my coach issued the edict today, " No

weight training this week. You want to be rested and fresh for the marathon. "

This means I go to work at the playground and can't play with the toys :-( But

I am aware that straight BFL and my own training activities are kind of at

direct odds with each other. The food plan might work, but the

strength-vs.-cardio won't. I would like to find out (or discover) how endurance

cardio-athletes can benefit from BFL, so I can be another information resource

for clients where I work.

Since I've started this job at the gym, it seems like a great opportunity to

watch, listen, learn, and build a little upper-body strength (helps on the

swim), and get rid of some jiggle.

That's about it :-)

Thanks for helping me clarify what I want!

Ellie

Re: Ellie

Hi Ellie, welcome!

I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

What is your goal?

If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the endurance

training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens. From

what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program without

even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above listed

advice.

From reading posts here since January I understand that it's very

difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance training.

For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on to

that fat with every last bit of strength.

But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day and

get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and just

check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This program

will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will look so

much better.

I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of fat...

trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be my

back to basic month.

For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

Jami

[Guest guest]

Ellie and Jami!

I wanted to shout out a congrats to you two!

Jami? do you have progres pics to share?

--

>

> Hi Ellie, welcome!

>

> I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

>

> What is your goal?

>

> If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the endurance

> training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens. From

> what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

without

> even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

>

> If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above listed

> advice.

>

> From reading posts here since January I understand that it's very

> difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance training.

> For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on

to

> that fat with every last bit of strength.

>

> But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day and

> get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and just

> check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

program

> will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

> fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will look

so

> much better.

>

> I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of fat...

> trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

> basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be my

> back to basic month.

>

> For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

> Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

>

> Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

>

> Jami

>

[Guest guest]

Congrats to me for what? :-) Jami's the one who's lost fat and gained muscle and

stayed a size 6 :-)

Ellie

Re: Ellie

Ellie and Jami!

I wanted to shout out a congrats to you two!

Jami? do you have progres pics to share?

--

>

> Hi Ellie, welcome!

>

> I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

>

> What is your goal?

>

> If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the endurance

> training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens. From

> what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

without

> even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

>

> If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above listed

> advice.

>

> From reading posts here since January I understand that it's very

> difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance training.

> For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on

to

> that fat with every last bit of strength.

>

> But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day and

> get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and just

> check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

program

> will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

> fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will look

so

> much better.

>

> I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of fat...

> trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

> basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be my

> back to basic month.

>

> For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

> Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

>

> Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

>

> Jami

>

[Guest guest]

Ooops! My brain is mush from leg weights today (huh?)

I saw your address next to Libbe's post, who lost 110 pds,

hence visual confusion.

So congrats Libbe!

and Ellie, you're gonna hear some bravos soon too,

I just know it

;0)

--

> >

> > Hi Ellie, welcome!

> >

> > I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

> >

> > What is your goal?

> >

> > If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the

endurance

> > training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

From

> > what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> > program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

> without

> > even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

> >

> > If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above

listed

> > advice.

> >

> > From reading posts here since January I understand that it's

very

> > difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance

training.

> > For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds

on

> to

> > that fat with every last bit of strength.

> >

> > But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> > program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day

and

> > get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and

just

> > check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

> program

> > will have you change from within, you will build muscle and

shed

> > fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will

look

> so

> > much better.

> >

> > I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of

fat...

> > trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to

the

> > basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be

my

> > back to basic month.

> >

> > For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of

muscle.

> > Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> > bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

> >

> > Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

> >

> > Jami

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would not say you are in the wrong place, because we all can learn

from eachother and there are people here doing slightly different

things for different reasons. You definately are not going to be

embrassing the whole BFL plan, but as you said you can learn about it

and help others, maybe even pick up a thing or two that works for you.

I'm 45, and I can't IMAGINE doing a triathalon! My biggest goal is to

do the MS150 bike ride from Houston to Austin, and I am not going to

be ready to do it for a long time. My hat's off to you. I'm

interested in how your training goes.

Barbara

[Guest guest]

I post my pics on the Get Fit board. This one allows men.

It's my own weirdness. ;-)

You'd be amazed what I could hid under my small clothing! It's

looking better though.

> >

> > Hi Ellie, welcome!

> >

> > I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

> >

> > What is your goal?

> >

> > If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the

endurance

> > training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

From

> > what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> > program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

> without

> > even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

> >

> > If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above

listed

> > advice.

> >

> > From reading posts here since January I understand that it's

very

> > difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance

training.

> > For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on

> to

> > that fat with every last bit of strength.

> >

> > But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> > program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day

and

> > get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and

just

> > check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

> program

> > will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

> > fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will

look

> so

> > much better.

> >

> > I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of

fat...

> > trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

> > basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be

my

> > back to basic month.

> >

> > For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

> > Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> > bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

> >

> > Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

> >

> > Jami

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, this is a good place. Triathletes? Yooo hoooo... (they are out

there, !). on this board is training for a

triathalon.

On a side note, I have heard that endurance athletes are benefiting

from HIIT. It helps increase speed. You know, good old wind

sprints.

I'll let the triathletes pipe in with their advice. I tried one

once but couldn't stand all the people touching me (in the water, on

the bike, during the run...). EW! I like to workout with air

around me! But the rest stops with snacks are nice. And the

tshirts are totally cool.

I imagine they'll say, do your endurance training but eat BFL clean

or something to that affect. You might double your carb portions on

the long run days (straining to remember endurance training posts on

this board).

Good luck with your training!

Jami

> >I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

> >What is your goal? If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd

ditch the endurance

> >training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

>

>

> Hmmm... I guess I hadn't fully addressed that question here, had I?

> Hoo, boy.... here's where the " you may have come to the wrong

place " thought may come up.

>

> It's true that I'm running a marathon this weekend but that's not

my ultimate goal. It's a step along the way. What I'm actually

training for is IronMan Florida -- an ultra-distance triathlon

featuring a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bike, and 26.2-mile (full

marathon) run. I did one last fall and I would like to do it this

year more comfortably, stronger, and maybe faster. If not faster,

then stronger and more comfortably with less fatigue works. I walked

more than I'd hoped during the " run " portion last year.

>

> I can't ditch the endurance-training. All my training is cardio,

and not very intense, either -- just long.

>

> My goal is to slim down some and tone/firm up some. I don't want

to add a lot of muscle but I do want a stronger upper body, better-

defined arms, and less padding around my waist, hips and thighs. The

15# is based pretty much on " healthy " height-weight calculations,

which of course don't take muscle into account. I'm 5'1 " , 54 years

old, and have yo-yo'd up and down between 120 and 150 for 20 years.

120 is what I want, based on how I know I look and perform at that

weight.

>

> I'm just wondering, with all of my questions, what I can do to

tweak both my training and my diet to pare off the extra pounds,

which presumably are fat pounds. So I won't have to do my training

and my triathlon carrying along the equivalent of a large bag of

kitty litter. It would make it easier. It would also make it easier

to get into my wetsuit, which currently takes me 5 minutes. I'd like

to cut it down to 3 :-)

>

> I also want to learn more about BFL because many people at the gym

where I work follow it, and I want to be able to talk intelligently

about it.

>

> >It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program without

> >even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

>

> Well, yeah, I suppose so. I know the pure program isn't going to

fit my current endurance goals. As a matter of fact, my coach issued

the edict today, " No weight training this week. You want to be

rested and fresh for the marathon. " This means I go to work at the

playground and can't play with the toys :-( But I am aware that

straight BFL and my own training activities are kind of at direct

odds with each other. The food plan might work, but the strength-vs.-

cardio won't. I would like to find out (or discover) how endurance

cardio-athletes can benefit from BFL, so I can be another

information resource for clients where I work.

>

> Since I've started this job at the gym, it seems like a great

opportunity to watch, listen, learn, and build a little upper-body

strength (helps on the swim), and get rid of some jiggle.

>

> That's about it :-)

>

> Thanks for helping me clarify what I want!

> Ellie

>

>

> Re: Ellie

>

>

> Hi Ellie, welcome!

>

> I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

>

> What is your goal?

>

> If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the

endurance

> training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

From

> what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

without

> even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

>

> If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above

listed

> advice.

>

> From reading posts here since January I understand that it's

very

> difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance

training.

> For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on

to

> that fat with every last bit of strength.

>

> But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day

and

> get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and

just

> check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

program

> will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

> fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will

look so

> much better.

>

> I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of

fat...

> trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

> basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be

my

> back to basic month.

>

> For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

> Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

>

> Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

>

> Jami

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jami!

Hi, the triathlete.... chime in on this, OK? :-)

I tied to snip out parts of Jami's post, below, (replying to mine, replying to

hers, replying to mine, etc.) to reply specifically, but seemed I had to either

include all of it or delete all of it. Different format or something. Sorry for

the repetition there.

OK, HIIT/wind sprints... Yes, I do some of that. But for more than the

BFL-suggested 20 minutes. Typical interval workout is: Warm-up -- very easy

jogging 1.5 miles (about 20 min for me); 4 X 1/2 mile at 85-95% with 1/4-mile

slow recovery jogs; additional 1/4-mile very easy jog/walk to cool down. Total

is about 50 minutes to an hour. But I only do those once a week or so. As I get

closer to Ironman, I'll also have swim and bike power reps.

I'm in the triathlete-minority, not having done much strength-training. Most do

at least some upper-body work. Now that I work at the playground... er, I mean,

health club... I'll get on that bandwagon. Probably not as much as 45 minutes 3

X week, though. At least not to start with.

I was thinking just about exactly what you've suggested with the food: follow

the program clean except for extra carbs for long workouts. Actually this is

very similar to my coach's nutrition advice, which has been basically 300

calories every 3 hours, with carb supplements as needed on the bike and run,

which are not counted among the 300 every 3. During an extreme event like an

intermediate-to-ultra-distance triathlon, the aim is to take in 200-300 calories

per hour of drinks and supplements or real food, mostly carb or a 4:1

carb:protein ratio, during the bike ride, to avoid depleting reserves and not

having anything left for the run, since most people don't eat on the run except

for stuff like Power Gel. Most runners and triathletes aim for 55-60% of total

daily intake as carbs, 20-30% protein, 20-30% fat. If they worry about it at

all, that is.... most of the recreational athletes that I know, don't do much

math with their food; they just sort of eat, with emphasis on carbs. Since it

hasn't lost me any weight, I'm going to try the BFL way with creative carb

supplementation on long runs/bikes, like you said.

I read that (www.julieberg.blogspot.com) drank Coke, Code Red Mt. Dew, and

ate turkey sandwiches throughout her 24-hour (yes, 24-hour) 116.8 (count 'em,

116.8) mile run this past weekend. Her report is awesome. Anyone looking for

inspiration, check it out (and prepare to feel totally outclassed, like I did.)

Thanks for steering me to this blog, ... several of my tri friends are

readers, as I discovered via the Comments section.

So what I'm going to do is, BFL diet plan, extra carbs for long endurance

workouts, strength-training starting conservatively, next week after my

marathon. It's not my first marathon and it's not an all-important race that

I've sunk a year's training into or anything, but I want to do as well as I can

with the least damage, and I know not to start anything new during the week

before it. This week is mostly resting up, eating well, and trying not to sprain

an ankle or something.

I post too long for a newbie. I don't intend to take over the list.... I just

get enthused and can't stop.

Thanks for the help, everyone!

Ellie

http://www.elliesjourneys.com

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=ellirnr

Re: Ellie

>

>

> Hi Ellie, welcome!

>

> I've been reading your posts and I have a few questions:

>

> What is your goal?

>

> If your goal is to lose 15 lbs of fat then I'd ditch the

endurance

> training and do BFL 100% for 12 weeks and see what happens.

From

> what I understand, 15 lb fatloss is pretty reasonable on the

> program. It sounds like you're trying to tweak the program

without

> even giving it a shot to help you reach your goal.

>

> If your goal is to run a marathon then disregard the above

listed

> advice.

>

> From reading posts here since January I understand that it's

very

> difficult for some to lose fat when they are endurance

training.

> For some the weight drops, but for others the body just holds on

to

> that fat with every last bit of strength.

>

> But what I tell all my friends - what I learned here - do the

> program, no extra cardio, eat very clean, enjoy your free day

and

> get back to me in 12 weeks. If you can, ditch the scale and

just

> check in with the tape measure every few weeks or so. This

program

> will have you change from within, you will build muscle and shed

> fat. The scale may or may not cooperate, but your body will

look so

> much better.

>

> I'm in challenge 2 and struggling with the last 3-5 lbs of

fat...

> trying to keep the faith! I think I just need to go back to the

> basics. I'm going to spend June doing cicuit and July will be

my

> back to basic month.

>

> For challenge 1 I lost 16 lbs of fat, gained 12 lbs of muscle.

> Still a size 6/8, but stronger, fitter and I look better in a

> bathing suit. Pretty good for a mom of 2 (4 and 2 yrs old).

>

> Take care, set those goals, then make them happen.

>

> Jami

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ellie,

I'm not a newbie to BFL but I am a newbie to Triathlons, I did an olympic

distance last summer and hope to do four to five this summer, three sprints and

two olympics. I'm blown away at what your doing, it's way out of my league!!

My sport was really soccer but after three foot surgeries I had to pick again,

so I chose tri's, which allow adequate rest time between runs. I love the

challenge and the training, especially the bike portions, but it's truly for

recreation and I don't see myself doing an ultra anytime soon, with kids, hubby,

full time job, etc., I can't commit that much time to training. Kudos to you,

sounds like you're heading in the right direction and have already accomplished

so much! Best of luck with your training!

heather

PS. You're so right about people in training not usually focusing a lot on

their eating, I was telling Jami that I was cycling last night and half way thru

our 33 mile ride a girl gave me a granola bar and i totally looked at it like

fuel for my body, not analyzing every calorie and fat gram. An athlete and a

dieter do not eat the same, it was refreshing.

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[Guest guest]

Post away! We love enthusiastic newbies who love to talk details about

nutrition, training and that other stuff that makes our hubby's eyes roll (or

glaze over).

Well, at least I do!

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[Guest guest]

Ellie,

Hey girlfriend. I have no idea what is going on but praying it has nothing to

do with JRA.Seems odd to me that Riley would first present with symptoms of

Spondy considering she has Poly onset.I hope you get answers quick.

Just to update you has been in medicated remission for about 5yrs.He is

in a research study at Cincinnati Childrens and comes off his last drug Enbrel

on Valentines day.He still plays baseball and played football 1 yr.He wants to

try out for both this summer for middle school.He is doing amazing,growing like

a weed .

Val hasn't updated but our little Robbie has been drug free for close to a

year.That is a true blessing because Val never thought he would get off he

pred.I miss you and all our Rustyroom chats.Thank you so much for coming to SD

AJAO and hanging out 4 a while.

Much Love,

Becki and 12 1/2 systemic onset AKA The barefoot Tn. flash

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately many parents have to travel out of state and even fly to get treatment.  I am not sure where the closest dr. to you is, but I am sure someone will post soon. Good luck!  You are on the right track! Most doctors don't cast before 9 months or a year so you are ahead of the game.  Also at her age she is likely to get a wonderful correction (most likely complete) even if you have to wait a few months, so don't panic (I know easier said than done!)

Also if you get in to see a local person get them to order you a brain and spine MRI which will expedite matters once you get to a Mehta Trained Dr. Jenn Mommy to Cole & Max

[Guest guest]

I think it's the KC missouri location that does Mehta. I know there are Childrens mercy branches in Missouri that have specialists that visit from kc area. It might be possible to set up an apt w one as an initial visit to get Ellie looked at and arrange MRI or whatever before making the trip. If you look into tx there is more than one facility but we go to ish Rite and stay at the Mc house right down the street which works great. You should look up the hospitals on line and see what you need to do paperwork wise to get accepted as a patient. Sometimes it takes a little while to get everything in order. Don't let the process freak you out:) think of it as a guidance tool to what steps you have to take to help your baby.TameSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 30, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Tame Olson <dazies2001@...>

wrote:

How close are you to Kansas city? They have a hospital... I think Childrens mercy that does mehta. Other than that check into Texas.Good luck!TameSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 30, 2011, at 8:56 AM, "Glenda Grimmett" <glendag@...> wrote:

Hello all, My daughter is 7 months old, and has obvious scoliosis. We live in Arkansas, and I am going crazy trying to get her in to see an ortho – the waiting list is insane. In my research, I have not found any ortho doc in the state that is practicing the Mehta method of casting. Would any of you happen to know of a provider that does this type of treatment anywhere close to Arkansas? Thank so much! Glenda Grimmett

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah! I forgot to mention Dallas ish Rite....

> How close are you to Kansas city? They have a hospital... I think

> Childrens mercy that does mehta. Other than that check into Texas.

> Good luck!

> Tame

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Jun 30, 2011, at 8:56 AM, " Glenda Grimmett " <glendag@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hello all,

>

>

>

> My daughter is 7 months old, and has obvious scoliosis. We live in

> Arkansas, and I am going crazy trying to get her in to see an ortho –

> the waiting list is insane. In my research, I have not found any ortho

> doc in the state that is practicing the Mehta method of casting. Would

> any of you happen to know of a provider that does this type of treatment

> anywhere close to Arkansas? Thank so much!

>

>

>

> Glenda Grimmett

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all so much! Glenda GrimmettLegacy Capital Group LLC From: Tame Olson [mailto:dazies2001@...] Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:27 AMinfantile scoliosis treatment Subject: Re: Ellie I think it's the KC missouri location that does Mehta. I know there are Childrens mercy branches in Missouri that have specialists that visit from kc area. It might be possible to set up an apt w one as an initial visit to get Ellie looked at and arrange MRI or whatever before making the trip. If you look into tx there is more than one facility but we go to ish Rite and stay at the Mc house right down the street which works great. You should look up the hospitals on line and see what you need to do paperwork wise to get accepted as a patient. Sometimes it takes a little while to get everything in order. Don't let the process freak you out:) think of it as a guidance tool to what steps you have to take to help your baby.TameSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 30, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Tame Olson <dazies2001@...> wrote:How close are you to Kansas city? They have a hospital... I think Childrens mercy that does mehta. Other than that check into Texas.Good luck!TameSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 30, 2011, at 8:56 AM, " Glenda Grimmett " <glendag@...> wrote:Hello all, My daughter is 7 months old, and has obvious scoliosis. We live in Arkansas, and I am going crazy trying to get her in to see an ortho – the waiting list is insane. In my research, I have not found any ortho doc in the state that is practicing the Mehta method of casting. Would any of you happen to know of a provider that does this type of treatment anywhere close to Arkansas? Thank so much! Glenda Grimmett