Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Hi , My daughter too starting wetting the bed........ It seems to us that when we added the paxil to her mix and started giving her half of it at dinner (because it bothered her stomach) that she started wetting. She is 12 and basically never wet the bed before. We have figured it out to some extent. She also takes trazadone to help her sleep and with the paxil added she was just " too " asleep to wake up and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Now we have a note for ourselves (hubby and I) to remind her to go to the bathroom right before bed and then we make sure she does. And bingo------no more bed wetting. The nights we forget, she wakes up wet. Maybe the celexa also makes your son's sleeping more deep?? Good luck, Laurie in WI (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 Ian also takes Paxil and has had an increased incidence of bedwetting (new for him) at 7 1/2. We also found that if we are religious about him going to the bathroom before bed he does not have accidents at night. His Risperdal makes him sleep very heavily. He has also had a couple of occasions during the day. It almost seems that he is not aware that he has to go until it is too late. On the advice of Dr. Hat we started having him go hourly when he is at home and that seemed to help bring it back to his awareness. Take care Joy in SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 I don't know what the relationship is if any between bedwetting and ocd but my son was diagnosed with ocd in June. He's 9 and had finally stopped wetting the bed around 2 years ago. Now he's doing it again about twice a week. I wonder if it's ocd related or medication related ( he's on Zoloft). I've been meaning to ask his therapist or his psychiatrist but i keep forgetting. Terry bedwetting To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! Any thoughts? You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Kathy , Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 I don't know what the relationship is if any between bedwetting and ocd but my son was diagnosed with ocd in June. He's 9 and had finally stopped wetting the bed around 2 years ago. Now he's doing it again about twice a week. I wonder if it's ocd related or medication related ( he's on Zoloft). I've been meaning to ask his therapist or his psychiatrist but i keep forgetting. Terry bedwetting To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! Any thoughts? You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. You may subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at parentsofadultswithOCD . You may access the files, links, and archives for our list at . Our list advisors are Tamar Chansky, Ph.D., and Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. Our list moderators are Birkhan, Kathy Hammes, Jule Monnens, Gail Pesses, Kathy , Roman, and Jackie Stout. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 My son is age 14 and still has a bed wetting problem. While it is not a big consolation, this is not that bad. It is surely not something to create disharmony. DDAVP is the easiest solution. It will work so that he can spend the night away from home. It stops the humiliation and you can move on to the bigger things. DDAVP now comes in pill form and is easy. My son takes it himself and it is rarely discussed in our family. He has an overnight bag that stays packed and has a dose of DDAVP and his Zoloft and Clonodine. That way he is always ready for a sleepover and no one EVER has to know but us. On Mon Nov 27 22:54:16 2000, egroups wrote: > To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel > sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and > that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One > question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the > bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was > 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns > since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the > tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a > day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was > a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started > again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, > almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his > liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, > buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick > and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my > children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some > surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then > Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! > Any thoughts? > > > To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel > sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and > that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One > question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the > bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was > 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns > since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the > tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a > day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was > a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started > again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, > almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his > liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, > buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick > and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my > children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some > surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then > Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! > Any thoughts? > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN " > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=Content-Type content= " text/html; charset=windows-1252 " > > <META content= " MSHTML 5.50.4134.600 " name=GENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my > > connection was so messed up. I feel sure that the Austin dsl and phone > lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and that contributed to my > problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One question I > wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually > it was the bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put > him on tofranil when he was 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went > ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns since he was a toddler and I can't > say I noticed any improvement when he was on the tofranil, but boy, when we took > him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a day and more > violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh > that there was a bigger problem and took Ian > to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this > summer. It started again right before school started. I thought it > might just be pre-school stress but now, almost half-way through the year, > he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his liquids after supper > and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed.  I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, > now here I am, buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in > them but I am really sick and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am > also sick and tired of worrying about my children's elimination - first it > was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some surgery to enlarge her > urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then Gracie came > along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!!</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any thoughts?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b>eGroups > Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td width=470><a > </tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > <br> > <tt> > You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... .  In the > body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name.  You may > subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at <a > <BR> > </tt> > <br> > > </BODY></HTML> > href= " http://rd./M=150967.1016644.2717500.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700042 054: > N/A=468535/*http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N1198./B26105;sz=468x60;or d=9753874 > 94? 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Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 My son is age 14 and still has a bed wetting problem. While it is not a big consolation, this is not that bad. It is surely not something to create disharmony. DDAVP is the easiest solution. It will work so that he can spend the night away from home. It stops the humiliation and you can move on to the bigger things. DDAVP now comes in pill form and is easy. My son takes it himself and it is rarely discussed in our family. He has an overnight bag that stays packed and has a dose of DDAVP and his Zoloft and Clonodine. That way he is always ready for a sleepover and no one EVER has to know but us. On Mon Nov 27 22:54:16 2000, egroups wrote: > To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel > sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and > that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One > question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the > bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was > 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns > since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the > tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a > day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was > a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started > again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, > almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his > liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, > buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick > and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my > children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some > surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then > Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! > Any thoughts? > > > To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel > sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and > that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One > question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the > bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was > 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns > since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the > tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a > day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was > a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started > again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, > almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his > liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, > buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick > and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my > children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some > surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then > Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! > Any thoughts? > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN " > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META http-equiv=Content-Type content= " text/html; charset=windows-1252 " > > <META content= " MSHTML 5.50.4134.600 " name=GENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my > > connection was so messed up. I feel sure that the Austin dsl and phone > lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and that contributed to my > problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One question I > wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with > OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually > it was the bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put > him on tofranil when he was 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went > ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns since he was a toddler and I can't > say I noticed any improvement when he was on the tofranil, but boy, when we took > him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a day and more > violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh > that there was a bigger problem and took Ian > to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with > ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this > summer. It started again right before school started. I thought it > might just be pre-school stress but now, almost half-way through the year, > he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his liquids after supper > and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before > bed.  I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, > now here I am, buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in > them but I am really sick and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am > also sick and tired of worrying about my children's elimination - first it > was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some surgery to enlarge her > urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then Gracie came > along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to > Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!!</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any thoughts?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b>eGroups > Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td width=470><a > </tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > <br> > <tt> > You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... .  In the > body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name.  You may > subscribe to the Parents of Adults with OCD List at <a > <BR> > </tt> > <br> > > </BODY></HTML> > href= " http://rd./M=150967.1016644.2717500.908943/D=egroupmail/S=1700042 054: > N/A=468535/*http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/N1198./B26105;sz=468x60;or d=9753874 > 94? 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Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Ava wore pull-ups to bed until she was 10 yrs old. She is almost 13 now and still has occassional accidents. I have mentioned this to every doctor she's seen but none has suggested a connection between this and OCD, though I believe there is one. Dana in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 At 10:54 PM 11/27/00 -0600, you wrote: One question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with OCD? I'm not sure if it's the bedwetting that is common with OCD or if it is sleep disorders -- a much bigger problem, of which bedwetting is one consequence. My middle kid, who just turned 15 (my kid without a diagnosis, but I still think there is something not quite right), is now past the bedwetting, but it was a real problem for him until sometime during his 12th year. He slept like a rock, not seeming to even move during the night. Two of my other kids, the ones with the alphabet diagnoses, have always had sleep problems: insomnia, talking in their sleep, sleepwalking. They were also more prone to bedwetting but that ended for them late preschool, early gradeschool. The remaining two kids in our family (yes, 5 in all), who seem to be without OCD or anything more serious than mild sensory issues, never had a bedwetting problem, even as toddlers. Wish there was something we could do for my daughter's insomnia - she's tried antihistimines & many kinds of prescribed sleeping pills -- but nothing works for more than a few nights. drat. -- Vicki in Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hi, My son was a bedwetter until the age of 14! Very difficult to deal with. They are saying now it is realated to the ocd some how. But I have also been told by the doctors that it is a sleep pattern. You could ask your doctor about this. Making sure he goes right before bed and getting him up around 2am normally helps them make it through the night. I know it is very tiring, but we do what we can. Good Luck, Chelsea > To everybody on last night's chat - I'm sorry my connection was so messed up. I feel sure that the Austin dsl and phone lines were all abuzz with the news about W. and that contributed to my problems. (One more thing to blame on Georgie - hehe). One question I wanted to ask everyone was about bedwetting. Is this a common problem with OCD? Ian (9) has begun wetting the bed every night again. Actually it was the bedwetting that led to his original diagnosis of ocd. We put him on tofranil when he was 6 to combat it and when we weaned him off, he went ballistic. He has had anger meltdowns since he was a toddler and I can't say I noticed any improvement when he was on the tofranil, but boy, when we took him off, the meltdowns increased dramatically ( 3 or 4 a day and more violent). That was when I finally was able to convince my dh that there was a bigger problem and took Ian to see a psychiatrist. This is when he was diagnosed with ocd. He eventually seemed to outgrow the bedwetting until late this summer. It started again right before school started. I thought it might just be pre-school stress but now, almost half-way through the year, he's still wetting the bed every night. We limit his liquids after supper and make sure he goes to the bathroom several times right before bed. I was so proud to get Gracie potty-trained and out of diapers, now here I am, buying Overnights instead of diapers. Ian hates sleeping in them but I am really sick and tired of washing sheets everyday! I am also sick and tired of worrying about my children's elimination - first it was Ian's bedwetting, then Avery had to have some surgery to enlarge her urethral opening so she wouldn't urinate like a fire hose, then Gracie came along with her chronic constipation and refusal to potty train, now back to Ian's bedwetting. ARGHHH!!! > Any thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2000 Report Share Posted November 28, 2000 Hi: Bedwetting like any other phenomenon can be a result of OCD. This can happen as part of having urinary obsessions. IT can also be part of contamination OCD which interferes with typical bathroom usage when avoidance results in our kids going to bed with a too full bladder. This can also be the result of certain medications. I suggest this should be discussed with docs to try to figure out what is going on as if it is OCD-related this is a good target for E & RP. Kids with this problem are very motivated to do something about it, particularly when they get older. Good luck, take care, aloha, kathy (H) kathyh@... At 06:53 AM 11/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Ava wore pull-ups to bed until she was 10 yrs old. She is almost 13 now and still has occassional accidents. I have mentioned this to every doctor she's seen but none has suggested a connection between this and OCD, though I believe there is one. > >Dana in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 > My son will be 5 in January and still has to wear a pull-up to bed. He has accidents every night. I wondered too if this had something to do with the OCD because I have 3 older children who never had a problem and were all completely potty trained all at once by the time they were 2 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 In a message dated 12/21/01 5:23:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, agusbar@... writes: > They have this nose spray med > that is supposed to help kids who are bedwetting because of this problem. > They usually dont know if it will work until they try it. The only reason I > > havent jumped for it is because he is only six and won't spend the night > anywhere, its the low problem on the totem pole and he is already on 10 > meds > as it is. I am just not ready to add another one yet. > > Anyone else out there heard of this or tried it? It's DDAVP. It's an easy nose spray and good because of absence of side effects. It worked initially for my daughter, but not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 I have been gone for a long time so I dont know if this has been addressed yet. My son, 6, still wets the bed at night. It has been suggested to me by his pdoc that it might be a hormone problem. They have this nose spray med that is supposed to help kids who are bedwetting because of this problem. They usually dont know if it will work until they try it. The only reason I havent jumped for it is because he is only six and won't spend the night anywhere, its the low problem on the totem pole and he is already on 10 meds as it is. I am just not ready to add another one yet. Anyone else out there heard of this or tried it? Ask your doc! Also, you can go to any browser and type in " nocturnal enuresis " and you will get a list of sites and information, including the National Enuresis Foundation. There are lots of things out there to try for the problem. Amy in Ohio _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2001 Report Share Posted December 21, 2001 Amy, My daughter is 9 and still has nightime enuresis. My understanding is that this is a developmental delay often associated with the OCD/Tourette's/ADD or ADHD group of neurological dysfunctions. We use the tablet form of DDAVP, which works well. DDAVP is a hormone which helps send the nightime message to the bladder to stretch and hold through the night. For some reason, our kids are not producing enough of the regular hormone on their own yet. Does wonders for self-esteem! She takes it every night before bed. She is so much happier about overnights now--I just explain the situation to the other parent (Maia and I have discussed this, and she thinks it best to do so). Maia's old enough to take her own medicine, but doesn't always remember if it's a busy overnight. So the parent can make sure she takes it, and that way the parent is prepared if there's an accident. Oh, by the way, if you let the other parent know ahead of time, they can put a plastic tablecloth under the bedding (felt side up) while the kids are playing--to discretely protect the bed, floor, couch, etc. The medicine doesn't stay in the system long, so if we miss a night, we've got a wet bed. Our psychiatrist explains that many family doctors and pediatricians don't know about the association with OCD, etc.--and that they also use DDAVP more conservatively than need be. He also mentioned another medication that can be used as a supplement to DDAVP if DDAVP alone doesn't quite do the trick, but I don't recall what it is. Of course, each child is different--but you may want to pursue the dosage issue if the nose spray alone doesn't provide relief. We first tried DDAVP when Maia was younger, without success. But her pediatrician was reluctant to use a higher dose (we stopped at 2 tablets). Perhaps her body is changing though, because now she only needs 1 tablet nightly. Our psychiatrist advised it is possible to use up to 4 tablets nightly--again, though, check with your d octor. Hope this helps! in Lubbock -- Click here for your very own create-a-date adventure from MatchMaker Go to http://ecard.matchmaker.com/dating.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi all, I have a problem and am hoping for some suggestions. I know how great all of you are with finding solutions. Zeb has always peed the bed at night. I have tried to wake him up a few times a night etc, but he is always wet about 10 minutes after he falls asleep. I have tried reducing liquids, hormone pills to reduce bladder function etc. I use the goodnights and have a waterproof mattress and pad on the bed and just excepted the fact that this is the way it is. I was hoping until he was a little older to try and the ped. dr. said his bladder would mature. Zeb has decided that he doesn't like the pullups anymore and has been ripping them into shreds and putting on another pair. We were going through about 5 a night until I hid them. They are so expensive and I cannot afford $200.00 a month for these things.My husband decided to just put him in the underwaer and see how he does. I knew he would be wet as soon as he fell asleep but his thinking was that after he slept in the soaking wet bed he may go pee in the toilet. It sounds good but instead he is geting up and changing into underwear and getting a bath towel to put over the wet spot,Mr.Slick. I was waking up to pee pants everywhere and washing blankets,comforters etc. I put him back into the pullups and told him when he could keep them dry at night he could wear the underwear. He must feel so much more comfortable in the underwear. He ripped the pullups off into shreads and again I have pee underwear and wet linen. I am on the last load and have washed the floor again. I don't have 2 hrs every morning to clean this mess. Any IDEAS???? He has been trained during the day since he was about 31/2 or 4. You are all so clever I was hoping someone had some good suggestions and have experienced this.Thanks for listening to me whine. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 In a message dated 1/30/02 12:21:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, charlyne1121@... writes: > Any IDEAS???? He has been trained during the day since he was > about 31/2 or 4. You are all so clever I was hoping someone had some good > suggestions and have experienced this.Thanks for listening to me whine. > Charlyne > Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? > > > Charlyne, I read every post that has to do with potty training. Sounds like Zeb really wants to stay dry. Does he empy his bladder right before bedtime? I wonder if it could be the part of the medication side effects? Just guessing here. Or maybe he just sleeps to soundly. I hear you when you talk about laundry. It's the pits. Have you thought of those buzzer mats that wake you up when you get wet. I'm sure some folks on this list have used them. But being a boy he may not just wet the mat. Hope you get some good ideas. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 In a message dated 1/30/02 12:50:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, joan@... writes: > what about one of those alarms that wakes them up at the slightest drop of > moisture? > > Or, you can see if the doctor would let you use the nasal spray they have > for bed wetting? Hey Charlyne, My 3rd child, my 16 yo son n has a problem bedwetting and there are some things I've learned in this whole journey. With some kids, it's more than just a phase, as with Bren. Our ped has told us that n will not be fully finished wetting the bed until he has finished puberty (it's a hormonal thing). We use the nasal spray for his sleepovers, but not daily. If you use it daily, you can build up an immunity to it (it's made from natural hormones much like synthroid). When he uses it, it works like a charm. We tried the alarm thing diligently with no success, but then if a kid who has the same type problem as n, it wouldn't. It is indeed SO cumbersome because I have to wash everything. Lately, he has been doing it maybe a couple times a week (doc said it would phase out once he started puberty), but for YEARS and YEARS, I washed blankets, sheets, and mattress daily. The pull up (or depends) was just too demeaning for him (BTW, we get our pull ups for Maddie paid for by medical assistance). Anyhow, the alarm has worked for many others (including my nieces--if you do decide to try it let me know and I'll pass on her little advice tidbits), so it might be something you'd want to consider. Some thigns to remember though are that caffeine is the biggest baddie in contributing to urine production. Bedwetting is hereditary (all 4 of Duff's brothers did it well into their teens, my nephew, and my brother til he was 10 or so). We have worked really really hard to make n feel ok with his *condition* and not embarrassed. He's fine at home, and the nasal spray has been a god-send!! In the meantime, maybe you can get those heavy duty hospital pads to put on the bed so it won't be so bad. {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} from a mom who's washload is NEVER done!!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 In a message dated 1/30/02 12:50:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, joan@... writes: > what about one of those alarms that wakes them up at the slightest drop of > moisture? > > Or, you can see if the doctor would let you use the nasal spray they have > for bed wetting? Hey Charlyne, My 3rd child, my 16 yo son n has a problem bedwetting and there are some things I've learned in this whole journey. With some kids, it's more than just a phase, as with Bren. Our ped has told us that n will not be fully finished wetting the bed until he has finished puberty (it's a hormonal thing). We use the nasal spray for his sleepovers, but not daily. If you use it daily, you can build up an immunity to it (it's made from natural hormones much like synthroid). When he uses it, it works like a charm. We tried the alarm thing diligently with no success, but then if a kid who has the same type problem as n, it wouldn't. It is indeed SO cumbersome because I have to wash everything. Lately, he has been doing it maybe a couple times a week (doc said it would phase out once he started puberty), but for YEARS and YEARS, I washed blankets, sheets, and mattress daily. The pull up (or depends) was just too demeaning for him (BTW, we get our pull ups for Maddie paid for by medical assistance). Anyhow, the alarm has worked for many others (including my nieces--if you do decide to try it let me know and I'll pass on her little advice tidbits), so it might be something you'd want to consider. Some thigns to remember though are that caffeine is the biggest baddie in contributing to urine production. Bedwetting is hereditary (all 4 of Duff's brothers did it well into their teens, my nephew, and my brother til he was 10 or so). We have worked really really hard to make n feel ok with his *condition* and not embarrassed. He's fine at home, and the nasal spray has been a god-send!! In the meantime, maybe you can get those heavy duty hospital pads to put on the bed so it won't be so bad. {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}} from a mom who's washload is NEVER done!!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi Joan, Zeb would never let me get near him with a nasal spray. I was afraid to use the alarm for fear that it would freak him out if it went off and I would never get him back to sleep again. You are right about getting sleep verses doing the laundry but this kid pees rivers. Thanks for the suggestions. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi Diane, I don't think it's the medication. I just started him on meds last nov and this bedwetting problem is just getting worse. I have the peer of all times. He does want to be grown up and wear his underwear. I was fine with this situation until he started ripping the goodnights to shreads. I hesitate to try and alarm with the sensory issues. He make become afraid to ever sleep again. Thanks, Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Hi Donna, You made me feel so much better! Bedwetting doesn't run in my family exept for Zeb. Is the alarm loud? I am afraid he will get scared to ever sleep. He is a weird kid as we all have one. Thanks for the encouragement, with all your kids you are a pro. Thanks, Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 what about one of those alarms that wakes them up at the slightest drop of moisture? Or, you can see if the doctor would let you use the nasal spray they have for bed wetting? My oldest had quite a time with this and he's not the one with ds/asd. He, too, would try to hide it by covering up the wet spot. It's a response to my reaction and his embarassment. The alarm worked well until my husband (who had been on graveyard) annoucned, " That looks uncomfortable! " Then he wouldn't wear it again. As for andy....if I take him to the toilet at night he's then UP for hours. We actually use " depends " rather than goodnights at this point. Sometimes they are dry, sometimes tey are not. So I think we're closer. When I can get him to go back to bed afterwards and relax, *then* I will work harder on being dry. But my sleep is more important than the laundry, I've decided. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 Charlyne You say that your son stays dry all day, just the nights are a problem,and therefore,( and from what you say about him getting up to change) he feels bad and does realized what he is doing. Could be. . like Donna said! My brother wet his bed up through high school. I am in no way an expert on this. . .I always had the daytime shift on the peeing and BM's I know this sounds awful. . . but for a couple of nights or so - is there a way you can wake him every 2 hours (I''m talking weekend or vacation time) When I potty trained (in a weekend) I had to set a timer for every 15 minutes I thought the day would never end. We tapered off the next day. I can relate to the laundry and scrubbing and the smell of urine in the room. of course, there were still occasional accidents and to clinch the title (I WON) was a matter of moving him from his environment - a place he felt comfortable in (his room, his brothers room, etc) (another long story) Also, I may say that did have the ability and know-how but he was just to lazy. I won't bore you anymore but if you want more details - e-mail me or ask. Thanks for your time kathy P.S. No time to edit this so I hope it makes sense!!! GTG Re: bedwetting Hi Joan, Zeb would never let me get near him with a nasal spray. I was afraid to use the alarm for fear that it would freak him out if it went off and I would never get him back to sleep again. You are right about getting sleep verses doing the laundry but this kid pees rivers. Thanks for the suggestions. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 In a message dated 1/30/02 5:42:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, charlyne1121@... writes: > I hesitate to > try and alarm with the sensory issues. He make become afraid to ever sleep > again. > Thanks, > Charlyne > I guess you should be thankful he is sleeping. I just realized myself that Rochelle is sleeping thru the night till about 5 am. This has not happened in about a year. I think she is finally on some kind of schedule. I will keep thinking about this issue. Charlyne maybe you could invent some kind of bedding that absorbs like those depends we put the kids in. Then you can just throw them away. The bedding. lolol Of course they would be very cheap to buy. Can you tell it's pass my bedtime. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2002 Report Share Posted January 30, 2002 In a message dated 1/30/2002 11:39:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, dben937342@... writes: > thinking about this issue. Charlyne maybe you could invent some kind of > bedding that absorbs like those depends we put the kids in. Then you can > just > throw them away. The bedding. lolol Of course they would be very cheap to > buy. Hi Diane, Now that's an idea and with all the money I make after I patent this I will be able to afford the maid to worry about it all, LOL. Charlyne Mom to Zeb 9 DS/OCD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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