Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Just quickly - JIA and JRA are the same thing. Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis has been replaced by the more accurate Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis. People often get confused and think that JRA is like RA when in fact they are different diseases. Personally I just use JA as that seems even more simple . There are three main types of JIA - pauciarticular, polyarticular, and systemic (also known as Still's disease). Pauci is four or fewer joints, poly is five or more, and systemic is the one with the fevers. There are types that mainly effect tendons and some that effect organs like the skin or eyes. I have some posts that I have saved that explain more in detail, plus I am sure others will add to this. Michele ( 23, spondy) From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of sharon.peabody Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:23 AM Subject: Different " Flavors " of JRA - Can Someone Explain? Hi everyone! I hope that the weekend was good to everyone. Since I'm still so new to this world of JRA, I've been trying to read and learn more. I've quickly come to realize that there seems to be lots of " flavors " of JRA (for lack of a better term) but I have yet to find a place that really explains the differences between JRA, JIA, and the others in plain laymans terms. If any of you have a few spare minutes, do you think you can clarify them to me? I'm just wanting to learn and arm myself with information as we go down 's treatment path. Thanks so much! Cheers. Sharon (, 17 months, systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 JIA is JRA. The term was recently changed. You will hear both. Here is a good synopsis of the types. Notice that less than four joints is called oligo. This is new, too. It used to be called pauci. The current thinking is that systemic may be in its own class. JIA is an autoimmune disease. It is believed that systemic is not an autoimmune disease, but an autoinflammatory disease. There are two components of the immune system, the innate and the specific. Autoimmune diseases have something wrong with the specific immune system. This includes the B cells and the T cells. Autoinflammatory diseases, such as systemic, has something wrong with the innate immune system. This includes neutrophils, macrophages, and monocytes. What does this mean in laymen's terms? It means sometimes the meds are different for the two diseases. MTX isn't all that effective with systemic. The tnf inhibitors aren't either. It doesn't mean that they don't work, they just aren't as effective. Mtx is about 50% effective with systemic. Enbrel is about 40% effective. So other meds are sometimes used with systemic. Studies have shown that systemics have too much of Interleukin 1 (IL-1), interleukin 6 and interleukin 18. So there are new drugs for IL -1 and IL-6. Kineret and Ilaris are IL-1 inhibitors. Actemra is a IL-6 inhibitor. Here is more explanation: (n, 22, systemic) There are several forms of JIA. Their names are derived from the number of joints affected or associated features: Oligoarticular JIA This is when 4 or fewer joints are involved. These are often large joints, such as the knee and ankle. Oligo JIA is the commonest form of JIA and typically affects girls aged 2-6 years. Sometimes after 6 months or longer more than 4 joints become affected. In this case the arthritis is called extended oligioarticular JIA, but behaves like polyarticular JIA. It is not possible to predict in whom this will occur. Eye inflammation is more common in oligoarticular arthritis and all patients must be seen by an ophthalmologist (eye doctor) on a regular basis. This will pick up eye inflammation (uveitis) early and prevent future problems with sight. Patients who continue to have 4 or fewer joints affected commonly require less treatment than those whose diagnosis changes to extended oligoarticular JIA. From the teenage years onwards they may also have long periods of full remision. They may even grow out of it altogether. Extended oligoarticular JIA often continues into adulthood, but modern treatments are good at controlling it. Polyarticular JIA This is when 5 or more joints are involved, including small joints of the hand and feet, the neck etc. Polyarticular disease tends to continue into adulthood, but treatment usually prevents long term harm. In older girls, rheumatoid factor may be present in the blood denoting a more aggressive form of arthritis, although with modern treatment this does not mean a worse outcome. Far from it. Enthesitis Related Arthritis This typically affects boys older than 6 years of age. Girls may be affected. Arthritis occurs in association with swelling of the tendons, especially at the insertion point of tendons into bones (enthesitis). Sites typical for enthesitis include: The heel The arch of the foot Around the hip Commonly there is a family history of similar types of arthritis or other inflammation such as inflammatory bowel disease. Enthesitis can be particularly uncomfortable and may be more difficult to treat than arthritis. It is especially important to monitor the hips and back although, with physiotherapy support, the outcome is usually good. An MRI may be requested if inflammation of the back is suspected . Eye inflammation, called uveitis, may occur suddenly causing pain sufficiently severe to consult a GP or eye specialist urgently. Psoriatic Arthritis The patient or a close family member may have psoriasis or nail pitting. Psoriasis is a flaky skin condition that commonly affects the elbows, knees, scalp and forehead. If there is arthritis of a finger or toe there is usually swelling of all joints of the digit, resulting in a sausage appearance. This arthritis may also be associated with enthesitis and eye inflammation similar to that of enthesitis related arthritis (above). Systemic JIA This is where arthritis is associated with regular fevers and rash. The rash is often a pale pink and comes and goes. The fever tends to occur just once or twice a day with the child seemingly much improved in between times. Any number of joints may be involved. In some patients this form of arthritis may only last a few months and never return. In others the inflammation may prove difficult to treat. In these patients, growth may be affected and the outer lining of the heart may become inflamed. Arthritis associated with inflammatory bowel disease This is similar to enthesitis related arthritis. It may occur many months or years before the bowel becomes involved. Outcome of joint inflammation is usually good once the bowel inflammation is controlled. Examples include crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis. On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:22 AM, sharon.peabody wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I hope that the weekend was good to everyone. > > Since I'm still so new to this world of JRA, I've been trying to read and learn more. I've quickly come to realize that there seems to be lots of " flavors " of JRA (for lack of a better term) but I have yet to find a place that really explains the differences between JRA, JIA, and the others in plain laymans terms. If any of you have a few spare minutes, do you think you can clarify them to me? I'm just wanting to learn and arm myself with information as we go down 's treatment path. > > Thanks so much! > > Cheers. > Sharon (, 17 months, systemic) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Good up to date info . Another one for me to save! LOL Michele Re: Different " Flavors " of JRA - Can Someone Explain? JIA is JRA. The term was recently changed. You will hear both. Here is a good synopsis of the types. Notice that less than four joints is called oligo. This is new, too. It used to be called pauci. The current thinking is that systemic may be in its own class. JIA is an autoimmune disease. It is believed that systemic is not an autoimmune disease, but an autoinflammatory disease. There are two components of the immune system, the innate and the specific. Autoimmune diseases have something wrong with the specific immune system. This includes the B cells and the T cells. Autoinflammatory diseases, such as systemic, has something wrong with the innate immune system. This includes neutrophils, macrophages, and monocytes. What does this mean in laymen's terms? It means sometimes the meds are different for the two diseases. MTX isn't all that effective with systemic. The tnf inhibitors aren't either. It doesn't mean that they don't work, they just aren't as effective. Mtx is about 50% effective with systemic. Enbrel is about 40% effective. So other meds are sometimes used with systemic. Studies have shown that systemics have too much of Interleukin 1 (IL-1), interleukin 6 and interleukin 18. So there are new drugs for IL -1 and IL-6. Kineret and Ilaris are IL-1 inhibitors. Actemra is a IL-6 inhibitor. Here is more explanation: (n, 22, systemic) There are several forms of JIA. Their names are derived from the number of joints affected or associated features: Oligoarticular JIA This is when 4 or fewer joints are involved. These are often large joints, such as the knee and ankle. Oligo JIA is the commonest form of JIA and typically affects girls aged 2-6 years. Sometimes after 6 months or longer more than 4 joints become affected. In this case the arthritis is called extended oligioarticular JIA, but behaves like polyarticular JIA. It is not possible to predict in whom this will occur. Eye inflammation is more common in oligoarticular arthritis and all patients must be seen by an ophthalmologist (eye doctor) on a regular basis. This will pick up eye inflammation (uveitis) early and prevent future problems with sight. Patients who continue to have 4 or fewer joints affected commonly require less treatment than those whose diagnosis changes to extended oligoarticular JIA. From the teenage years onwards they may also have long periods of full remision. They may even grow out of it altogether. Extended oligoarticular JIA often continues into adulthood, but modern treatments are good at controlling it. Polyarticular JIA This is when 5 or more joints are involved, including small joints of the hand and feet, the neck etc. Polyarticular disease tends to continue into adulthood, but treatment usually prevents long term harm. In older girls, rheumatoid factor may be present in the blood denoting a more aggressive form of arthritis, although with modern treatment this does not mean a worse outcome. Far from it. Enthesitis Related Arthritis This typically affects boys older than 6 years of age. Girls may be affected. Arthritis occurs in association with swelling of the tendons, especially at the insertion point of tendons into bones (enthesitis). Sites typical for enthesitis include: The heel The arch of the foot Around the hip Commonly there is a family history of similar types of arthritis or other inflammation such as inflammatory bowel disease. Enthesitis can be particularly uncomfortable and may be more difficult to treat than arthritis. It is especially important to monitor the hips and back although, with physiotherapy support, the outcome is usually good. An MRI may be requested if inflammation of the back is suspected . Eye inflammation, called uveitis, may occur suddenly causing pain sufficiently severe to consult a GP or eye specialist urgently. Psoriatic Arthritis The patient or a close family member may have psoriasis or nail pitting. Psoriasis is a flaky skin condition that commonly affects the elbows, knees, scalp and forehead. If there is arthritis of a finger or toe there is usually swelling of all joints of the digit, resulting in a sausage appearance. This arthritis may also be associated with enthesitis and eye inflammation similar to that of enthesitis related arthritis (above). Systemic JIA This is where arthritis is associated with regular fevers and rash. The rash is often a pale pink and comes and goes. The fever tends to occur just once or twice a day with the child seemingly much improved in between times. Any number of joints may be involved. In some patients this form of arthritis may only last a few months and never return. In others the inflammation may prove difficult to treat. In these patients, growth may be affected and the outer lining of the heart may become inflamed. Arthritis associated with inflammatory bowel disease This is similar to enthesitis related arthritis. It may occur many months or years before the bowel becomes involved. Outcome of joint inflammation is usually good once the bowel inflammation is controlled. Examples include crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis. On Apr 11, 2011, at 8:22 AM, sharon.peabody wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I hope that the weekend was good to everyone. > > Since I'm still so new to this world of JRA, I've been trying to read and learn more. I've quickly come to realize that there seems to be lots of " flavors " of JRA (for lack of a better term) but I have yet to find a place that really explains the differences between JRA, JIA, and the others in plain laymans terms. If any of you have a few spare minutes, do you think you can clarify them to me? I'm just wanting to learn and arm myself with information as we go down 's treatment path. > > Thanks so much! > > Cheers. > Sharon (, 17 months, systemic) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Thanks so much for all of the information, folks! I really appreciate it and things are much clearer now. Time to run and print out the articles and hang on to them in my reference binders. Cheers! Sharon (, 17 months, systemic) > > > Hi everyone! > > > > I hope that the weekend was good to everyone. > > > > Since I'm still so new to this world of JRA, I've been trying to read and learn more. I've quickly come to realize that there seems to be lots of " flavors " of JRA (for lack of a better term) but I have yet to find a place that really explains the differences between JRA, JIA, and the others in plain laymans terms. If any of you have a few spare minutes, do you think you can clarify them to me? I'm just wanting to learn and arm myself with information as we go down 's treatment path. > > > > Thanks so much! > > > > Cheers. > > Sharon (, 17 months, systemic) > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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