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Dear Lauri,

Can you go to an emergency room? Pain and numbness

all the way down in both legs sounds like an emergency

to me. The next symptom that could come is even more

of an emergency -- loss of bowel and bladder control.

I'm surprised that your physical therapists don't

realize that if bending foreward makes your toes numb,

that a herniated disc could be bulging into your

spinal cord. You need someone to advocate for you.

Rochelle

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Dear Lauri,

Can you go to an emergency room? Pain and numbness

all the way down in both legs sounds like an emergency

to me. The next symptom that could come is even more

of an emergency -- loss of bowel and bladder control.

I'm surprised that your physical therapists don't

realize that if bending foreward makes your toes numb,

that a herniated disc could be bulging into your

spinal cord. You need someone to advocate for you.

Rochelle

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Dear Horsepnny--

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DEMAND A MRI!

I blew 2 discs in my neck last year--and they acted like I was

exxagerating my pain. They told me I had pulled a muscle in my neck

and to do PT. I demanded (I had a gut feeling) one and was contacted

with 2 hours of my MRI and told I had severe spinal cord compression

at my C5-C6-C7 levels. I had a double ACDF at the Tulsa Spine

Hospital within a month. PLUS-MY HUSBAND has had 2 lower back

surgeries (micro-discetomy/laminotomy and artificial disc

implantation at the L5 level) after FIGHTING with his workers comp

because they thought it was not bad also. HE did PT for 3 weeks and

had a herniation the entire time. The PT squats caused his disc

material to travel down his spinal canal. It was ONLY after he could

not feel his feet hitting the floor when he walked and was crawling

to the bathroom (because he couldnt walk) that someone finally got

testing at the ER. PLEASE stand up for yourself. The system is so

messed up that sometimes the ones that are in the most pain are the

ones that the doctors don't believe or listen to.

I am so sorry that you are in so much pain. PLease find someone who

will listen and get help before permanent damage is done. You can

lose your bowel and bladder function if you have herniation at the

lower levels. I wish you the best.

>

> I am stuck with military doctors that are frustrating me!!!!! A

year

> ago, I was

> rear-ended by a semi who was going 55+MPH. I was going 5 mph in a

> Chevy metro. I

> was lucky to be alive, let alone walk away 6 hours later. I was

> diagnosed with

> whiplash and acute muscle spasms, given meds and sent home. Having

a

> good base

> of fitness knowledge, I nursed myself back and worked up to running

> 6 miles, 3

> times a week and riding horses daily. One day I wore 2 " high heels,

> and suddenly

> in the middle of the night I was awakened by excruciating back

pain,

> I was in

> tears, EVERYTHING hurt!!!!! I had muscle spasms, searing pain down

> the back of

> both legs, it hurt to breath, sit, stand, and lay down.I have NEVER

> had pain

> like that but I had something VERY important I had to do that day

so

> I popped

> the rest of my pills and barely made it to the airport. I called

the

> doctor's

> office and told them I was in excruciating pain and they told me to

> call back on

> Monday because they didn't have

> anymore appointments for that day, here it was Friday morning.

> During the

> weekend it improved, range of motion returned and I could sneeze. I

> went to the

> doc's on Monday and he said it was muscle and gave me meds, no x-

> rays, etc. I

> had to tell him I wanted physical therapy and that I knew this was

> deeper than

> muscle pain, and asked what was the possibility of something being

> wrong with a

> disc. He chuckled and said it was VERY unlikely. So when I went to

> physical

> therapy I was diagnosed with a directional preference of bending

> forward, (yeah

> it's called 'I have a 2 yr old!'). So they have me doing back bends

> galore. It

> hasn't relieved the pain and when she taped my arch, it became

> worse, so now the

> pain extends to my feet when I'm sitting or standing now and is

> constant. When I

> did the extensions, my toes went numb. It's SO HARD !!!!! I've gone

> from running

> 6 miles in 45 minutes and then riding my horse an hour later, to

> hardly being

> able to walk without meds. I went back

> to PT and told them before I do anymore exercises, I want to know

> what is

> causing the pain. They told me I was their first patient that

didn't

> improve

> with exercises. Getting scheduled for an MRI could take up to 30

> days!!!! I

> can't wait that long!!! I guess I just need to know that I am not

> the only

> patient that hasn't improved with exercises.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Horsepnny--

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DEMAND A MRI!

I blew 2 discs in my neck last year--and they acted like I was

exxagerating my pain. They told me I had pulled a muscle in my neck

and to do PT. I demanded (I had a gut feeling) one and was contacted

with 2 hours of my MRI and told I had severe spinal cord compression

at my C5-C6-C7 levels. I had a double ACDF at the Tulsa Spine

Hospital within a month. PLUS-MY HUSBAND has had 2 lower back

surgeries (micro-discetomy/laminotomy and artificial disc

implantation at the L5 level) after FIGHTING with his workers comp

because they thought it was not bad also. HE did PT for 3 weeks and

had a herniation the entire time. The PT squats caused his disc

material to travel down his spinal canal. It was ONLY after he could

not feel his feet hitting the floor when he walked and was crawling

to the bathroom (because he couldnt walk) that someone finally got

testing at the ER. PLEASE stand up for yourself. The system is so

messed up that sometimes the ones that are in the most pain are the

ones that the doctors don't believe or listen to.

I am so sorry that you are in so much pain. PLease find someone who

will listen and get help before permanent damage is done. You can

lose your bowel and bladder function if you have herniation at the

lower levels. I wish you the best.

>

> I am stuck with military doctors that are frustrating me!!!!! A

year

> ago, I was

> rear-ended by a semi who was going 55+MPH. I was going 5 mph in a

> Chevy metro. I

> was lucky to be alive, let alone walk away 6 hours later. I was

> diagnosed with

> whiplash and acute muscle spasms, given meds and sent home. Having

a

> good base

> of fitness knowledge, I nursed myself back and worked up to running

> 6 miles, 3

> times a week and riding horses daily. One day I wore 2 " high heels,

> and suddenly

> in the middle of the night I was awakened by excruciating back

pain,

> I was in

> tears, EVERYTHING hurt!!!!! I had muscle spasms, searing pain down

> the back of

> both legs, it hurt to breath, sit, stand, and lay down.I have NEVER

> had pain

> like that but I had something VERY important I had to do that day

so

> I popped

> the rest of my pills and barely made it to the airport. I called

the

> doctor's

> office and told them I was in excruciating pain and they told me to

> call back on

> Monday because they didn't have

> anymore appointments for that day, here it was Friday morning.

> During the

> weekend it improved, range of motion returned and I could sneeze. I

> went to the

> doc's on Monday and he said it was muscle and gave me meds, no x-

> rays, etc. I

> had to tell him I wanted physical therapy and that I knew this was

> deeper than

> muscle pain, and asked what was the possibility of something being

> wrong with a

> disc. He chuckled and said it was VERY unlikely. So when I went to

> physical

> therapy I was diagnosed with a directional preference of bending

> forward, (yeah

> it's called 'I have a 2 yr old!'). So they have me doing back bends

> galore. It

> hasn't relieved the pain and when she taped my arch, it became

> worse, so now the

> pain extends to my feet when I'm sitting or standing now and is

> constant. When I

> did the extensions, my toes went numb. It's SO HARD !!!!! I've gone

> from running

> 6 miles in 45 minutes and then riding my horse an hour later, to

> hardly being

> able to walk without meds. I went back

> to PT and told them before I do anymore exercises, I want to know

> what is

> causing the pain. They told me I was their first patient that

didn't

> improve

> with exercises. Getting scheduled for an MRI could take up to 30

> days!!!! I

> can't wait that long!!! I guess I just need to know that I am not

> the only

> patient that hasn't improved with exercises.

>

[Guest guest]

HI Jacky,

I am Annie and I am also a new member to this group--

I shall try to answer one of your questions.

The medication your husband has been given , the narcotic one-- percocette--

is a strong

pain med--- and can cause irritability. It should help with the pain.

If you google the other med you ought to find out something about its

advantages and side effects.

I have not yet had an epidural and after reading about them I have decided

that they really do not help that much-- like a bandage for the problem.

Did your husband's fusion on his cervical discs help at all? I have at least 6

discs that are in bad shape.

Take care Jacky,

Annie

Jacky Schmitt <J.Schmitt@...> wrote:

Hi - my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because

my significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago.

Last June he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists and

bruises. Since the accident he is having chronic pain every day -

especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain management Center

and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they haven't

really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet (sp?)

and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain and

usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets really

irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very

angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that is

helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and pain

meds and then it doesn't seem to help.

Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some info.

Thanks

- Jacky

[Guest guest]

HI Jacky,

I am Annie and I am also a new member to this group--

I shall try to answer one of your questions.

The medication your husband has been given , the narcotic one-- percocette--

is a strong

pain med--- and can cause irritability. It should help with the pain.

If you google the other med you ought to find out something about its

advantages and side effects.

I have not yet had an epidural and after reading about them I have decided

that they really do not help that much-- like a bandage for the problem.

Did your husband's fusion on his cervical discs help at all? I have at least 6

discs that are in bad shape.

Take care Jacky,

Annie

Jacky Schmitt <J.Schmitt@...> wrote:

Hi - my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because

my significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago.

Last June he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists and

bruises. Since the accident he is having chronic pain every day -

especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain management Center

and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they haven't

really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet (sp?)

and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain and

usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets really

irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very

angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that is

helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and pain

meds and then it doesn't seem to help.

Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some info.

Thanks

- Jacky

[Guest guest]

yeah, its gonna be rough on you as well as your man. My prayers are with you

both. I also get irritable on my meds. I recommend that you try and get him

into a therapy (psychiatrist, and psychologist)

it would help if you both spoke to the psychologist.

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neck pain@...: gatorma1@...: Fri, 1 Feb

2008 05:26:12 -0800Subject: Re: New member

HI Jacky,I am Annie and I am also a new member to this group-- I shall try to

answer one of your questions.The medication your husband has been given , the

narcotic one-- percocette-- is a strong pain med--- and can cause irritability.

It should help with the pain.If you google the other med you ought to find out

something about its advantages and side effects.I have not yet had an epidural

and after reading about them I have decided that they really do not help that

much-- like a bandage for the problem.Did your husband's fusion on his cervical

discs help at all? I have at least 6 discs that are in bad shape.Take care

Jacky,AnnieJacky Schmitt <J.Schmitt@...> wrote:Hi - my name is

Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because my significant other,

, had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago. Last June he was in a motorcycle

accident - had fractured wrists and bruises. Since the accident he is having

chronic pain every day - especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain

management Center and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they

haven't really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet (sp?)

and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain and usually by

the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets really irritable at those

times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very angry because the doctors don't

seem to be giving him anything that is helping. He's tired to spending money on

doctor appointments and pain meds and then it doesn't seem to help. Anyway -

that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some info.Thanks- Jacky

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yeah, its gonna be rough on you as well as your man. My prayers are with you

both. I also get irritable on my meds. I recommend that you try and get him

into a therapy (psychiatrist, and psychologist)

it would help if you both spoke to the psychologist.

rob<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: gatorma1@...: Fri, 1 Feb

2008 05:26:12 -0800Subject: Re: New member

HI Jacky,I am Annie and I am also a new member to this group-- I shall try to

answer one of your questions.The medication your husband has been given , the

narcotic one-- percocette-- is a strong pain med--- and can cause irritability.

It should help with the pain.If you google the other med you ought to find out

something about its advantages and side effects.I have not yet had an epidural

and after reading about them I have decided that they really do not help that

much-- like a bandage for the problem.Did your husband's fusion on his cervical

discs help at all? I have at least 6 discs that are in bad shape.Take care

Jacky,AnnieJacky Schmitt <J.Schmitt@...> wrote:Hi - my name is

Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because my significant other,

, had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago. Last June he was in a motorcycle

accident - had fractured wrists and bruises. Since the accident he is having

chronic pain every day - especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain

management Center and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they

haven't really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet (sp?)

and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain and usually by

the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets really irritable at those

times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very angry because the doctors don't

seem to be giving him anything that is helping. He's tired to spending money on

doctor appointments and pain meds and then it doesn't seem to help. Anyway -

that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some info.Thanks- Jacky

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing. I feel his pain. I had a fusion just about

three months ago, and I still deal with chronic pain. I have a pain

doc who is luckily a decent guy. He just costs me an arm and a leg

because he is not covered by my insurance. He is one of those cash

only docs. I also deal with a lot of pain in my lower back

and it is worse in the morning. My doc seems to always be trying new

drugs on me (which all seem to cost a rediculous amount) but at least

he is trying to get me comfortable without the use of narcotics.

Recently I started on Amrix, it is a time release form of flexeril.

I take it at night and then it helps me sleep and I am a bit more

comfortable in the morning. I also had a good deal of pain relief

with Topamax, however, due to other health problems, it had a

negative impact on my kidneys and liver so I had to stop taking it.

He may also want to talk with the doctor about pamelor or neurontin.

They are drugs that were traditionally used to treat depression, but

they also block nerve impulses and can be helpful in the treatment of

chronic back pain. Just some ideas.

It is really nice to see a loved one reaching out to understand this

kind of pain. I am lucky in that I also have a very suportive spouse

and family. Very lucky. Tell we wish him the best, and if he

has a question about some particular procedure, throw it out here.

There seem to be a lot of helpful folks visiting this site.

Take care,

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing. I feel his pain. I had a fusion just about

three months ago, and I still deal with chronic pain. I have a pain

doc who is luckily a decent guy. He just costs me an arm and a leg

because he is not covered by my insurance. He is one of those cash

only docs. I also deal with a lot of pain in my lower back

and it is worse in the morning. My doc seems to always be trying new

drugs on me (which all seem to cost a rediculous amount) but at least

he is trying to get me comfortable without the use of narcotics.

Recently I started on Amrix, it is a time release form of flexeril.

I take it at night and then it helps me sleep and I am a bit more

comfortable in the morning. I also had a good deal of pain relief

with Topamax, however, due to other health problems, it had a

negative impact on my kidneys and liver so I had to stop taking it.

He may also want to talk with the doctor about pamelor or neurontin.

They are drugs that were traditionally used to treat depression, but

they also block nerve impulses and can be helpful in the treatment of

chronic back pain. Just some ideas.

It is really nice to see a loved one reaching out to understand this

kind of pain. I am lucky in that I also have a very suportive spouse

and family. Very lucky. Tell we wish him the best, and if he

has a question about some particular procedure, throw it out here.

There seem to be a lot of helpful folks visiting this site.

Take care,

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

I have chronic back pain. I am on the patches for it and the Nuerotin. I still

have break through pain at times. .. I have learned that when you deal with

chronic pain you learn to do things in moderation it helps alot. I have two

cervical fusions.. first one was on c5 then the second one was c4-c5 and c6-c7

they put plates in on those.. Because of two wrecks I have stenosis,

spondylosis, osteoarthritis. I also have thinning of my spinal cord in my neck

near c5 disc. My lumbar is non operative. Cause the fusions in my neck did not

take they started to fail.. L5-S1 disc is completely gone.. and C4 is bulging

out pretty bad I some times have to get injections to help.. But they dont last

long at all.. I think the thing that has helped me most is, my pain dr flat

telling me that I need to learn to do things in moderation to help keep the

flairups down..

Hugs Babs

[Guest guest]

I have chronic back pain. I am on the patches for it and the Nuerotin. I still

have break through pain at times. .. I have learned that when you deal with

chronic pain you learn to do things in moderation it helps alot. I have two

cervical fusions.. first one was on c5 then the second one was c4-c5 and c6-c7

they put plates in on those.. Because of two wrecks I have stenosis,

spondylosis, osteoarthritis. I also have thinning of my spinal cord in my neck

near c5 disc. My lumbar is non operative. Cause the fusions in my neck did not

take they started to fail.. L5-S1 disc is completely gone.. and C4 is bulging

out pretty bad I some times have to get injections to help.. But they dont last

long at all.. I think the thing that has helped me most is, my pain dr flat

telling me that I need to learn to do things in moderation to help keep the

flairups down..

Hugs Babs

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Jacky.

Sorry to hear about ,believe me when i say being in pain can

cause even the sweetest of people to become grizzly bears.

I find myself going off at the littlest things that never bothered me

before.I am taking antidepresents(sp?)maybe they may help him they do

help me some.ive been trying to get relief now going on 4 months,and

not getting any.DR sais a spinal fusion is next but i dont want to be

cut on yet im checking out other alternatives.Ok ive yacked enough

have a good day and hope this group helps you.

>

> Hi - my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined

because

> my significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years

ago.

> Last June he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists

and

> bruises. Since the accident he is having chronic pain every day -

> especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain management Center

> and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they

haven't

> really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet

(sp?)

> and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain

and

> usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets

really

> irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very

> angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that

is

> helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and

pain

> meds and then it doesn't seem to help.

>

> Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some

info.

> Thanks

> - Jacky

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group Jacky.

Sorry to hear about ,believe me when i say being in pain can

cause even the sweetest of people to become grizzly bears.

I find myself going off at the littlest things that never bothered me

before.I am taking antidepresents(sp?)maybe they may help him they do

help me some.ive been trying to get relief now going on 4 months,and

not getting any.DR sais a spinal fusion is next but i dont want to be

cut on yet im checking out other alternatives.Ok ive yacked enough

have a good day and hope this group helps you.

>

> Hi - my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined

because

> my significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years

ago.

> Last June he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists

and

> bruises. Since the accident he is having chronic pain every day -

> especially in the morning. He is going to a Pain management Center

> and they have given him 3 cervical epiderals so far but they

haven't

> really helped other than for a day or so. He is taking Percacet

(sp?)

> and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes up in pain

and

> usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets

really

> irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very

> angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that

is

> helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and

pain

> meds and then it doesn't seem to help.

>

> Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I hope to gather some

info.

> Thanks

> - Jacky

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome Jacky, try to have patience with him. Having been in terrible pain

since September I can say that my personality has changed for the worse. I get

angry easily and say things that I really regret. Accepting pain as a way of

life is a hard one. You go through stages of denial, anger, self pity and you

tend to lash out at the people that you are closest to, at least in my case. I

hope and pray that things

start looking up for you two.

Cheryl V

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Jacky, try to have patience with him. Having been in terrible pain

since September I can say that my personality has changed for the worse. I get

angry easily and say things that I really regret. Accepting pain as a way of

life is a hard one. You go through stages of denial, anger, self pity and you

tend to lash out at the people that you are closest to, at least in my case. I

hope and pray that things

start looking up for you two.

Cheryl V

---------------------------------

Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

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Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:30:37 +0000Subject: Re: New member

Welcome to the group Jacky.Sorry to hear about ,believe me when i say being

in pain can cause even the sweetest of people to become grizzly bears.I find

myself going off at the littlest things that never bothered mebefore.I am taking

antidepresents(sp?)maybe they may help him they do help me some.ive been trying

to get relief now going on 4 months,and not getting any.DR sais a spinal fusion

is next but i dont want to be cut on yet im checking out other alternatives.Ok

ive yacked enoughhave a good day and hope this group helps you.>> Hi

- my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because > my

significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago. > Last June

he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists and > bruises. Since the

accident he is having chronic pain every day - > especially in the morning. He

is going to a Pain management Center > and they have given him 3 cervical

epiderals so far but they haven't > really helped other than for a day or so. He

is taking Percacet (sp?) > and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes

up in pain and > usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets

really > irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very >

angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that is >

helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and pain > meds and

then it doesn't seem to help. > > Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I

hope to gather some info.> Thanks> - Jacky>

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neck pain@...: dark_angel_of_mine@...:

Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:30:37 +0000Subject: Re: New member

Welcome to the group Jacky.Sorry to hear about ,believe me when i say being

in pain can cause even the sweetest of people to become grizzly bears.I find

myself going off at the littlest things that never bothered mebefore.I am taking

antidepresents(sp?)maybe they may help him they do help me some.ive been trying

to get relief now going on 4 months,and not getting any.DR sais a spinal fusion

is next but i dont want to be cut on yet im checking out other alternatives.Ok

ive yacked enoughhave a good day and hope this group helps you.>> Hi

- my name is Jacky and I just joined this group. I joined because > my

significant other, , had C5, 6 and 7 fused about 2 years ago. > Last June

he was in a motorcycle accident - had fractured wrists and > bruises. Since the

accident he is having chronic pain every day - > especially in the morning. He

is going to a Pain management Center > and they have given him 3 cervical

epiderals so far but they haven't > really helped other than for a day or so. He

is taking Percacet (sp?) > and just started taking Opana, however he still wakes

up in pain and > usually by the end of the work day he is in pain - and he gets

really > irritable at those times - I mean REALLY irritable. He also very >

angry because the doctors don't seem to be giving him anything that is >

helping. He's tired to spending money on doctor appointments and pain > meds and

then it doesn't seem to help. > > Anyway - that's why I joined the group and I

hope to gather some info.> Thanks> - Jacky>

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Hi Tami, and welcome

I think that there are a lot of us that suffer from chronic pain And depression.

I had just started a promising career when all of my back problems started. I

have a 3 yr old and a 7 yr old and others will have to teach my boys how to

throw and ride bikes; it is very depressing. I'm only 33 and I find it hard to

have faith that my wife will continue to deal with this/me; I think my kids are

getting the short end of the stick, having a disabled father. shrug. sorry im

in a mood.

anyhow welcome to the group, this is a wonderful place filled with wonderful,

caring individuals full of knowledge. take care

rob<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: greyoak3@...: Sat, 2 Feb

2008 17:35:06 +0000Subject: New member

Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as you all.

Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about it that REALLY

undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3 grandchildren. I started

have neck and upper back pain about 9-10 yrears ago. I was shuffled from one

doctor to another until someone finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced

arthitis in my entire neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up

to pain management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my hands.

Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my diabets. I hae

only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with the insulin pump. He

took blood and I have to go back and get x rays of my hands and wrists. I'm

falling apart! Somethings that pain is so bad that the pain medicine doesn't

even help. So I suffer and try to find of other things. Yoga has helped keep my

neck more limber and keep the range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept

that this isn't going to get better. People without daily pain that interfers

with their life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone suffer

from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad that this

support group exists. Look foward to being involved and exchanging ideas that

may make life a little easiser. Tami

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Hi Tami, and welcome

I think that there are a lot of us that suffer from chronic pain And depression.

I had just started a promising career when all of my back problems started. I

have a 3 yr old and a 7 yr old and others will have to teach my boys how to

throw and ride bikes; it is very depressing. I'm only 33 and I find it hard to

have faith that my wife will continue to deal with this/me; I think my kids are

getting the short end of the stick, having a disabled father. shrug. sorry im

in a mood.

anyhow welcome to the group, this is a wonderful place filled with wonderful,

caring individuals full of knowledge. take care

rob<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: greyoak3@...: Sat, 2 Feb

2008 17:35:06 +0000Subject: New member

Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as you all.

Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about it that REALLY

undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3 grandchildren. I started

have neck and upper back pain about 9-10 yrears ago. I was shuffled from one

doctor to another until someone finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced

arthitis in my entire neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up

to pain management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my hands.

Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my diabets. I hae

only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with the insulin pump. He

took blood and I have to go back and get x rays of my hands and wrists. I'm

falling apart! Somethings that pain is so bad that the pain medicine doesn't

even help. So I suffer and try to find of other things. Yoga has helped keep my

neck more limber and keep the range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept

that this isn't going to get better. People without daily pain that interfers

with their life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone suffer

from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad that this

support group exists. Look foward to being involved and exchanging ideas that

may make life a little easiser. Tami

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[Guest guest]

Hi Tami and welcome to the group,

sorry you are in so much pain but like alot of us here ive figured

out what doesnt kill me makes me stronger.about the depresion...i

cant speak for anyone else but the first 2 months i was stuck at home

due to my back wasnt too bad its now been 4 months and it is not good.

so bored you have nothing to do nobody to talk to so you start

feeling sorry for yourself.which leads to depresion.my pain mgt dr

did give me antidepresants dont really notice any difference yet but

i have only taken them about a week. guess we will see. looking

forward to getting to know you have a good weekend. LISA

>

> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as

you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

it

> that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3

> grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10

> yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

someone

> finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

entire

> neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

pain

> management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

hands.

> Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

diabets.

> I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

the

> insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

of my

> hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

bad

> that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

find

> of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep

the

> range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

going

> to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with their

> life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

suffer

> from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

that

> this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami and welcome to the group,

sorry you are in so much pain but like alot of us here ive figured

out what doesnt kill me makes me stronger.about the depresion...i

cant speak for anyone else but the first 2 months i was stuck at home

due to my back wasnt too bad its now been 4 months and it is not good.

so bored you have nothing to do nobody to talk to so you start

feeling sorry for yourself.which leads to depresion.my pain mgt dr

did give me antidepresants dont really notice any difference yet but

i have only taken them about a week. guess we will see. looking

forward to getting to know you have a good weekend. LISA

>

> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as

you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

it

> that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3

> grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10

> yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

someone

> finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

entire

> neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

pain

> management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

hands.

> Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

diabets.

> I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

the

> insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

of my

> hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

bad

> that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

find

> of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep

the

> range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

going

> to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with their

> life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

suffer

> from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

that

> this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason

as

> you

> > all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

> it

> > that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and

3

> > grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-

10

> > yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

> someone

> > finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

> entire

> > neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

> pain

> > management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

> hands.

> > Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

> diabets.

> > I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

> the

> > insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

> of my

> > hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

> bad

> > that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

> find

> > of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and

keep

> the

> > range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

> going

> > to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with

their

> > life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

> suffer

> > from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

> that

> > this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> > exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason

as

> you

> > all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

> it

> > that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and

3

> > grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-

10

> > yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

> someone

> > finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

> entire

> > neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

> pain

> > management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

> hands.

> > Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

> diabets.

> > I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

> the

> > insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

> of my

> > hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

> bad

> > that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

> find

> > of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and

keep

> the

> > range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

> going

> > to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with

their

> > life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

> suffer

> > from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

> that

> > this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> > exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" People without daily pain that interfers with their

life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone suffer

from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? "

Hi Tami,

When I first had my injury, I was very frustrated and learned quickly

who not to talk to about my pain. There are a lot of people out there

that think you have to be openly bleeding to death to be in real pain.

That's why I found this group. I have taken anti depressants since my

first surgery which I attribute to medication and constant pain.

For 10 years after surgery, I had no pain and forgot about the

fusion. Then in 2004, I had horrible pain like I did before surgery.

Apparently, I have arthritis below and above the C5-6 fusion. Since

then, I have been in pain off and on but it seems permanent now.

I'm hoping to be able to get out of pain eventually and I take it one

day at a time.

>

> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as

you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

it

> that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3

> grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10

> yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

someone

> finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

entire

> neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

pain

> management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

hands.

> Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

diabets.

> I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

the

> insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

of my

> hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

bad

> that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

find

> of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep

the

> range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

going

> to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with their

> life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

suffer

> from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

that

> this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

>