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" People without daily pain that interfers with their

life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone suffer

from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? "

Hi Tami,

When I first had my injury, I was very frustrated and learned quickly

who not to talk to about my pain. There are a lot of people out there

that think you have to be openly bleeding to death to be in real pain.

That's why I found this group. I have taken anti depressants since my

first surgery which I attribute to medication and constant pain.

For 10 years after surgery, I had no pain and forgot about the

fusion. Then in 2004, I had horrible pain like I did before surgery.

Apparently, I have arthritis below and above the C5-6 fusion. Since

then, I have been in pain off and on but it seems permanent now.

I'm hoping to be able to get out of pain eventually and I take it one

day at a time.

>

> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as

you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about

it

> that REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3

> grandchildren. I started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10

> yrears ago. I was shuffled from one doctor to another until

someone

> finally diagnosised the problem. I have advanced arthitis in my

entire

> neck. Everything is calcifying. So I finally was hooked up to

pain

> management which has helped some. Now I have problems which my

hands.

> Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is due to my

diabets.

> I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol with

the

> insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays

of my

> hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so

bad

> that the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to

find

> of other things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep

the

> range of motion fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't

going

> to get better. People without daily pain that interfers with their

> life don't really understand how hard it can be. Does anyone

suffer

> from depression due to the stress of the chronic pain? I'm glad

that

> this support group exists. Look foward to being involved and

> exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami

>

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2008 03:20:49 +0000Subject: Re: New member

" People without daily pain that interfers with theirlife don't really understand

how hard it can be. Does anyone sufferfrom depression due to the stress of the

chronic pain? " Hi Tami,When I first had my injury, I was very frustrated and

learned quickly who not to talk to about my pain. There are a lot of people out

there that think you have to be openly bleeding to death to be in real

pain.That's why I found this group. I have taken anti depressants since my first

surgery which I attribute to medication and constant pain.For 10 years after

surgery, I had no pain and forgot about the fusion. Then in 2004, I had horrible

pain like I did before surgery. Apparently, I have arthritis below and above the

C5-6 fusion. Since then, I have been in pain off and on but it seems permanent

now.I'm hoping to be able to get out of pain eventually and I take it one day at

a time.>> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about it > that

REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3 > grandchildren. I

started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10 > yrears ago. I was shuffled

from one doctor to another until someone > finally diagnosised the problem. I

have advanced arthitis in my entire > neck. Everything is calcifying. So I

finally was hooked up to pain > management which has helped some. Now I have

problems which my hands. > Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is

due to my diabets. > I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol

with the > insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays of

my > hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so bad > that

the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to find > of other

things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep the > range of motion

fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't going > to get better. People

without daily pain that interfers with their > life don't really understand how

hard it can be. Does anyone suffer > from depression due to the stress of the

chronic pain? I'm glad that > this support group exists. Look foward to being

involved and > exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami>

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very much so<html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to

know no one cares or understands. </div></html>

neck pain@...: rmp67r@...: Mon, 4 Feb

2008 03:20:49 +0000Subject: Re: New member

" People without daily pain that interfers with theirlife don't really understand

how hard it can be. Does anyone sufferfrom depression due to the stress of the

chronic pain? " Hi Tami,When I first had my injury, I was very frustrated and

learned quickly who not to talk to about my pain. There are a lot of people out

there that think you have to be openly bleeding to death to be in real

pain.That's why I found this group. I have taken anti depressants since my first

surgery which I attribute to medication and constant pain.For 10 years after

surgery, I had no pain and forgot about the fusion. Then in 2004, I had horrible

pain like I did before surgery. Apparently, I have arthritis below and above the

C5-6 fusion. Since then, I have been in pain off and on but it seems permanent

now.I'm hoping to be able to get out of pain eventually and I take it one day at

a time.>> Hi everybody. Unfortunately I'm joining the for the same reason as you

> all. Happily, I know i'm not alone and have people to talk about it > that

REALLY undestand. I'm 51, married with 2 grown children and 3 > grandchildren. I

started have neck and upper back pain about 9-10 > yrears ago. I was shuffled

from one doctor to another until someone > finally diagnosised the problem. I

have advanced arthitis in my entire > neck. Everything is calcifying. So I

finally was hooked up to pain > management which has helped some. Now I have

problems which my hands. > Lucky me. The rhumetologist I just saw thinks it is

due to my diabets. > I hae only been diabetic for 8 years and have good cocntrol

with the > insulin pump. He took blood and I have to go back and get x rays of

my > hands and wrists. I'm falling apart! Somethings that pain is so bad > that

the pain medicine doesn't even help. So I suffer and try to find > of other

things. Yoga has helped keep my neck more limber and keep the > range of motion

fairly good. It hard to accept that this isn't going > to get better. People

without daily pain that interfers with their > life don't really understand how

hard it can be. Does anyone suffer > from depression due to the stress of the

chronic pain? I'm glad that > this support group exists. Look foward to being

involved and > exchanging ideas that may make life a little easiser. Tami>

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Welcome Tami, I started my back pain in early September of 2007. So, it has

been about 5 months. I am on antidepressants and have been for years so they

are not new to me. I have had to start taking the full dose now which I hate

because they are so expensive and the generic does not work for me. I have a

herniated disc in L5 and got a couple of epidurals which made matters worse. As

for the sore hands, I have used my hands roughly in gardening, which is one of

my passions. I have arthritis in my thumbs and finger joints. I have also used

a computer since 1968 so I have been the carpal tunnel route. I have had

surgery on both wrists for that and have a numb left thumb for a trigger finger

surgery that went wrong. I used to be very active before the back started. I

would walk my collie 1 mile every day at top speed at the crack of dawn. Now I

have to tie the poor old guy out to go potty. And even that is a challenge. I

am so bored that I could scream. I am

getting so sick of TV. I love the computer but can not stay too long for the

pain. I got a second hand office chair today and it is alot more comfortable.

I just need hubby to saw off the back of my desk so that I can stretch my legs

out and put them up. I long for the freedom of just getting up and going out on

my own. That life is still very fresh in my mind. Acceptance of this whole

mess is coming hard for me. I have a fragile hold on HOPE. If I can keep hope

alive I will make it. But after 5 months of being locked in a chair, not being

able to sleep in a bed and all the lost freedoms, it is getting hard. Hang in

there.

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HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

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HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

> --- wendy.tom@...

> --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

>

>

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thank you Sharon- good suggestion about the medication. I appreciate the

feedback.

Re: New Member

HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

> --- wendy.tom@...

> --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

>

>

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Hi Sharon

its amazing how long it can go on and everyone profession thinks it is something

different and of course there are some who think its all in your head.

When I go to have a procedure I tell my co-workers that Im undergoing Medieval

Medicine.

You know? It doesnt seem like we have come all that way.

That being said- it seems that this L5-S1 can manifest in a lot of ways- muscle

spasms, nerve pain, radiculopathy, referred pain...

not sure why the Docs seem to just stop with the MRI's.

I have suggested MR neurographies to one of my Physical Medicine docs and he

said it he never heard of it (and he is in DC and keeps getting cited as top MD

in the Washingtonian).

I have read about it online that numerous high profile Hospital systems in NY

and California are doing it to find the nerve effected.

So it almost seems that we patients are often more informed of what is going on

with technology and what should be done as protocols than we encounter in our

often 10 minute office visits with the Doctors in this area- maybe its all over.

Anyway- today I see Dr. Toerge- an absolutely fantastic Osteopathic MD at

town for my 3 month follow up.

The problem is he is so good that it takes 3-4 months every time to see him!

Isnt that sad.

Anyway- I will keep on plugging.... thank you for your support.

Re: New Member

HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

> --- wendy.tom@...

> --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

>

>

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Hi Sharon

did the L5-S1 fusion at least allow you to have mobility back? Or more than

before the surgery?

Right now I cant walk far, cant swim- I can do mild range of motion in the pool.

I used to run, speed walk, bike, hike. All that is gone right now. If I try to

do those things it brings on terrible nerve pain in the sacrum radiating into

the right foot.

I just would like to be able to go on nice long walks again.

I cant travel cause I cant sit for more than an hour without " freezing up " and

making the nerve pain worse.

Sitting on an airplane tends to be a horror show. Needless to say- havent

gotten on one in over a year.

Re: New Member

HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

> --- wendy.tom@...

> --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

>

>

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Hi,

It always saddens me to hear pain has prevented someone from doing

what they love. I think we are all in that boat! One thing is for

sure, I am way more appreciative then I was in my " no pain days " . I

would love to take my dogs for a walk, bring my 3 year old to the

park, go to a movie with my older boys. We all just need to keep

pushing along and hopefully one surgery, therapy, pain management

procedure or medication will help us regain our life back.

Hugs,

>

> Hi Sharon

> did the L5-S1 fusion at least allow you to have mobility back? Or

more than before the surgery?

>

> Right now I cant walk far, cant swim- I can do mild range of motion

in the pool.

> I used to run, speed walk, bike, hike. All that is gone right

now. If I try to do those things it brings on terrible nerve pain in

the sacrum radiating into the right foot.

> I just would like to be able to go on nice long walks again.

> I cant travel cause I cant sit for more than an hour

without " freezing up " and making the nerve pain worse.

> Sitting on an airplane tends to be a horror show. Needless to say-

havent gotten on one in over a year.

>

>

>

>

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Hi All

has anyone in the group had a microdiscetomy and a foraminotomy of a herniated

L5?

Any success?

My neurosurgeon is suggesting this.

thanks,

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From: Sharon

neck pain

Sent: 5/21/2008 9:06:44 PM

Subject: Re: New Member

HI welcome to the group I am sorry to hear about your pain. I

too suffered from L5-S1 sciatic pain for almost 7 yrs before I had a

fusion done. Even now though it seems like it took the drs so long to

figure out what to do I will have nerve damage and pain for the rest

of my life. I had hoped after surgery it would be so much better but

after going thru 3 back surgeries and a neck fusion I knew what my

chances were. Trying to convince drs to do what needs to be done

sooner would be better for so many people I think. I had the test

done you speak of twice and no its no fun. What you might do is ask

your dr to get you some extra medicine for that one day only thats

what my dr did the last time and it helped alot. I wish you luck with

your search for less pain but I know its not a fun road or a short

one to journey on. Again welcome to the group. Sharon Group Owner

>

> Hello

> I am a new member-44 year old woman.

> I have been looking for a support group as a way to help with what

has become daily chronic pain.

> I have been dealing with low back/ radiculopathy since a severe

back spasm summer 2003.

>

> So far no surgery, but that is only due to conservative therapists,

physical medicine doctors, a conservative Osteopath and

Neurosurgeon. Let me also say that I have had Physical Therapy for

about 2 years.

>

> However this past year I have had 4 epidurals in L5 and the last

one last week- no help. The sciatic type pain is pretty much every

day, worse in the am and difficult to cope with. Now the Physical

Medicine Doctors want me to have a discogram to confirm if it is

indeed a disc causing all the pain.

>

> Unfortunatley there has always been some discrepancy of which is

causing the pain- SI joint, or L5.

>

> So now Im facing the Discogram- yet another painful procedure to

which end Im just not sure where it will lead.

>

> They Physical Medicine Doctor wants to try Prolotherapy in the

Discs, but that still leaves me with daily nerve pain.

>

> It is just kind of a long drawn out, round and round scenario.....

what to try next. I have been curious about the radiofrequency

treatments. But who knows- I guess depending on the outcome of the

discogram they may want to do surgery.

> I welcome any feedback. thanks.

>

>

>

>

> ---

> --- wendy.tom@...

> --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

>

>

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I am SO jealous! I love-love-love the Gulf Coast of Florida.. some

day... <sigh>

That milkshake sounds good, too! ;-)

Carol C.

>

> Good Morning Everyone,

>

> It's a beautiful day here along the Gulf Coast of Florida and I am

> delighted to have found this group. Organic Coconut Oil is a new

item

> in my diet and I am looking forward to learning all the ways to

use the

> product. I quickly learned what not to do and that was achieved

by

> adding it to " cold " juice. LOL, I ended up with a gultenous mess

to

> chew my way through. This morning however I did add it to my

morning

> Whey shake, with a banana, two tsp raw honey and a small amount of

> crushed ice, then blended. Wow.. what a wonderful way to start

the

> morning.

>

> Blessing to All,

>

>

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If you are on a budget, shop the internet. Local Health Food Stores

have high prices. I buy Nutiva coconut oil at

http://www.vitacost.com/Nutiva-Organic-Extra-Virgin-Coconut-Oil. It

is not a great oil, but I can afford it when I am broke.

Alobar

On 8/17/08, Gloria <glolovesjesus@...> wrote:

> Hi! I am new here...which brands of coconut oil and milk are good ones

> to buy if you are on a budget and want to buy them in my local health

> food store? thanks and i am looking foward to improved health! Glo

>

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I haven't had any VCO tested, just my taste buds. I've had Tropical

Traditions, Omega, Wilderness Family Naturals centrifuged. Now I'm using

Nutiva because of easy availability, and I like the jars it comes in. I

can't tell any difference between Nutiva and the WFN centrifuged, in

color, aroma, or flavor.

sol

Alobar wrote:

> If you are on a budget, shop the internet. Local Health Food Stores

> have high prices. I buy Nutiva coconut oil at

> http://www.vitacost.com/Nutiva-Organic-Extra-Virgin-Coconut-Oil. It

> is not a great oil, but I can afford it when I am broke.

>

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Alobar,

 

You obviously have a handle on what's out there. So, this begs the question:

 

When you're not on a budget, what are your top three favorite brands to purchase

& why? Oh yea, and where have you found the best deals?

 

And what's your favorite coconut water? Do you like the dehydrated stuff?

 

Thanks!

 

                                                                                \

       -richard- ;-{)

> Hi! I am new here...which brands of coconut oil and milk are good ones

> to buy if you are on a budget and want to buy them in my local health

> food store? thanks and i am looking foward to improved health! Glo

>

>

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Coconut water has too many carbs for a diabetic. I used to drink the

tetra pack coconut water from WFN. It was the yummiest coconut water

I had tasted.

I once tried some powdered coconut milk from Tropical traditions. It

tasted wretched to me. Grossly overcooked and burnt.

When I have the cash, I shop from WFN. I like their products a lot.

Centrifuged coconut oil is my favorite. Price is good when I could

afford to get a 5 gallon pail. Pail is a pain to open, and I

transferred it to smaller containers for convenience. If buying a 5

gallon pail in cold weather, it arrives as a solid lump. I open the

pail when it is frozen to prevent spills, then I let it sit for a week

before attempting to transfer it to smaller containers.

Alobar

On 8/17/08, Silva <silvaworks@...> wrote:

> Alobar,

>

> You obviously have a handle on what's out there. So, this begs the question:

>

> When you're not on a budget, what are your top three favorite brands to

purchase & why? Oh yea, and where have you found the best deals?

>

> And what's your favorite coconut water? Do you like the dehydrated stuff?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

-richard- ;-{)

>

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Hello, just wanted to mention that if you use ebay that Tropical

Traditions has a store and list of many of their coconut products

there. Sometimes you can get the coconut oil much cheaper.

> > Alobar,

> >

> > You obviously have a handle on what's out there. So, this begs

the question:

> >

> > When you're not on a budget, what are your top three favorite

brands to purchase & why? Oh yea, and where have you found the best

deals?

> >

> > And what's your favorite coconut water? Do you like the

dehydrated stuff?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

>

-richard- ;-{)

> >

>

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Hi Glo

For me, the best is to watch for sales in various stores. I like Nutiva,

probably the best as far as brands are concerned....I've used Fresh Shores,

Tropical Traditions, Vitamin Shoppe Brand and Nutiva. The last time I bought

some, I got Nutiva, 54 oz size, for $24 at The Vitamin Shoppe, on sale....no

shipping cost.

Georgia

> New Member

>

> Hi! I am new here...which brands of coconut oil and milk are good ones

> to buy if you are on a budget and want to buy them in my local health

> food store? thanks and i am looking foward to improved health! Glo

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Through my site I got a good deal worked out and the same size (54oz.)

is only $20.19 with no shipping.

http://www.kellythekitchenkop.com/2008/06/organic-virgin-coconut-oil-

deals-best.html

For me, the best is to watch for sales in various stores. I like

Nutiva, probably the best as far as brands are concerned....I've used

Fresh Shores, Tropical Traditions, Vitamin Shoppe Brand and Nutiva.

The last time I bought some, I got Nutiva, 54 oz size, for $24 at The

Vitamin Shoppe, on sale....no shipping cost.

>

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Do you usually have this in stock? And is it usually shipped quickly?

I have some on order now, but will order from you next time if you ship

right away.

K

> Through my site I got a good deal worked out and the same size (54oz.)

> is only $20.19 with no shipping.

>

> http://www.kellythekitchenkop.com/2008/06/organic-virgin-coconut-oil-

> deals-best.html

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Thanks, I have bookmarked your website!

Georgia

> Re: New Member

>

> Through my site I got a good deal worked out and the same size (54oz.)

> is only $20.19 with no shipping.

>

> http://www.kellythekitchenkop.com/2008/06/organic-virgin-coconut-oil-

> deals-best.html

>

> For me, the best is to watch for sales in various stores. I like

> Nutiva, probably the best as far as brands are concerned....I've used

> Fresh Shores, Tropical Traditions, Vitamin Shoppe Brand and Nutiva.

> The last time I bought some, I got Nutiva, 54 oz size, for $24 at The

> Vitamin Shoppe, on sale....no shipping cost.

>>

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Yes it's in stock and yes it always comes right away. :)

>

> Do you usually have this in stock? And is it usually shipped quickly?

> I have some on order now, but will order from you next time if you

ship

> right away.

> K

>

> > Through my site I got a good deal worked out and the same size

(54oz.)

> > is only $20.19 with no shipping.

> >

> > http://www.kellythekitchenkop.com/2008/06/organic-virgin-coconut-

oil-

> > deals-best.html

>

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For me, the jury is still out. I like that it's resistant to high

heat, as an alternative to olive oil and butter. I've tried to avoid

other oils for the past couple years, but it's very difficult.

I started taking a tablespoon of VCO in my tea in the morning and

using it topically, but then I started to gain weight. So I stopped

that and am just trying to find ways to substitute coconut oil for

other oils. I've lost the weight gain and am stable now. I think it

was an unwise calorie increase.

Personally, the thing that gives me the most energy is EXERCISE! 30

minutes of walking/jogging in the morning and 30 minutes of light

(almost aerobic) weight training in the late afternoon. Some people

may need the thyroid boost that they say coconut oil provides, but I'm

not one of them.

Cheers and good health!

S

>

> I am just investigating the benefit of coconut oil. Wondering if it is

> everything the books says it is?

> It is really beneficial?

>

> Thanks

>

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> good day to you.> the benefits of VCO is unquestionable, continue using it

regulary, and experience the power of VCO.

From: nah <spthompson49@...>

Subject: Re: New Member

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:36 PM

For me, the jury is still out. I like that it's resistant to high

heat, as an alternative to olive oil and butter. I've tried to avoid

other oils for the past couple years, but it's very difficult.

I started taking a tablespoon of VCO in my tea in the morning and

using it topically, but then I started to gain weight. So I stopped

that and am just trying to find ways to substitute coconut oil for

other oils. I've lost the weight gain and am stable now. I think it

was an unwise calorie increase.

Personally, the thing that gives me the most energy is EXERCISE! 30

minutes of walking/jogging in the morning and 30 minutes of light

(almost aerobic) weight training in the late afternoon. Some people

may need the thyroid boost that they say coconut oil provides, but I'm

not one of them.

Cheers and good health!

S

>

> I am just investigating the benefit of coconut oil. Wondering if it is

> everything the books says it is?

> It is really beneficial?

>

> Thanks

>

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Hello S

A number of people have reported weight loss, not gain.

I wonder if it might be worth trying it a bit longer and

increasing the amount you consume to 3 Tbspns per

day?

It's up to you, of course.  It's just a thought.

I heard one lady say that she loved coconut oil so much

that she was taking 6 Tbsp per day but she had to stop

because she was losing too much weight.

Helen

 

From: nah <spthompson49>

Subject: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: New Member

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:36 PM

For me, the jury is still out. I like that it's resistant to high

heat, as an alternative to olive oil and butter. I've tried to avoid

other oils for the past couple years, but it's very difficult.

I started taking a tablespoon of VCO in my tea in the morning and

using it topically, but then I started to gain weight. So I stopped

that and am just trying to find ways to substitute coconut oil for

other oils. I've lost the weight gain and am stable now. I think it

was an unwise calorie increase.

Personally, the thing that gives me the most energy is EXERCISE! 30

minutes of walking/jogging in the morning and 30 minutes of light

(almost aerobic) weight training in the late afternoon. Some people

may need the thyroid boost that they say coconut oil provides, but I'm

not one of them.

Cheers and good health!

S

>

> I am just investigating the benefit of coconut oil. Wondering if it is

> everything the books says it is?

> It is really beneficial?

>

> Thanks

>

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