Electrode materials, the best, the worst

[Guest guest]

Best common central core materials:

Carbon fiber, Silver, Gold

Worst:

Zinc (toxic), Aluminum

Average:

Steel, Stainless steel, Copper

Hybrid:

Copper or stainless with graphite powder around it (carbon)

These core materials offer several advantages and disadvantages of

safety, cost, and availability. I'm concerned about possible metal

in the body type issues. However, the use against germs to save a

life means " availability and cost " enter into it as a tradeoff.

Copper can aggravate wilson's disease or allergic reactions.

However, you get some in water from copper pipes. The body needs a

certain amount of it, and discards the rest, except in case of

wilson's where the body cannot get rid of it and goes into toxic

reaction.

If you put fine graphite powder around the copper wire inside the

cloth wrap, it can act to catch some or most of the copper before it

gets into the cloth and possibly from there into the body. This

effect is due to the stability of graphite vs copper. Graphite is

very stable and is used for containers to hold molten metals. It

only presents a couple of ohms resistance, so does not impede the

current significantly.

Stainless is a permanent electrode and does not break down. When

current is applied the first time, it instantly passivates with an

oxide coating. But...stainless steel is hard to find in any usable

shape for electrodes. It is hard to work on being very tough to cut.

My present choice is plain copper wire with graphite powder brushed

on, and embedded in cellulose sponge (common household " O-cello " or

equivalent sponge, not natural sponge, not the plastic foam type

sponge). That combination will be presented in photos later. I have

to get the time to do it. You may find it ideal for you. Use of

this sponge is much nicer than wrapping the cloth with thread both in

usage and ease of construction.

bG

[Guest guest]

What are you using for a graphite source?

Hardware stores have this in the form of

a lubricant, but it is difficult to apply

and is quickly washed off by water soaked

electrodes. No. 1 lead pencil (the 'lead'

in a pencil is actually graphite plus a

binder) works well on a copper surface,

but, again, rather difficult to apply to

a copper wire surface. What if your

technique?

--- baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

> Best common central core materials:

>

> Carbon fiber, Silver, Gold

>

> Worst:

>

> Zinc (toxic), Aluminum

>

> Average:

>

> Steel, Stainless steel, Copper

>

> Hybrid:

>

> Copper or stainless with graphite powder around it

> (carbon)

>

> These core materials offer several advantages and

> disadvantages of

> safety, cost, and availability. I'm concerned about

> possible metal

> in the body type issues. However, the use against

> germs to save a

> life means " availability and cost " enter into it as

> a tradeoff.

>

> Copper can aggravate wilson's disease or allergic

> reactions.

> However, you get some in water from copper pipes.

> The body needs a

> certain amount of it, and discards the rest, except

> in case of

> wilson's where the body cannot get rid of it and

> goes into toxic

> reaction.

>

> If you put fine graphite powder around the copper

> wire inside the

> cloth wrap, it can act to catch some or most of the

> copper before it

> gets into the cloth and possibly from there into the

> body. This

> effect is due to the stability of graphite vs

> copper. Graphite is

> very stable and is used for containers to hold

> molten metals. It

> only presents a couple of ohms resistance, so does

> not impede the

> current significantly.

>

> Stainless is a permanent electrode and does not

> break down. When

> current is applied the first time, it instantly

> passivates with an

> oxide coating. But...stainless steel is hard to

> find in any usable

> shape for electrodes. It is hard to work on being

> very tough to cut.

>

> My present choice is plain copper wire with graphite

> powder brushed

> on, and embedded in cellulose sponge (common

> household " O-cello " or

> equivalent sponge, not natural sponge, not the

> plastic foam type

> sponge). That combination will be presented in

> photos later. I have

> to get the time to do it. You may find it ideal for

> you. Use of

> this sponge is much nicer than wrapping the cloth

> with thread both in

> usage and ease of construction.

>

> bG

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

wait for the photos that will show you. It's optional, I doubt it's

earth-shattering effect or even a detectable improvement..just an

experiment.

bG

>

> What are you using for a graphite source?

> Hardware stores have this in the form of

> a lubricant, but it is difficult to apply

> and is quickly washed off by water soaked

> electrodes. No. 1 lead pencil (the 'lead'

> in a pencil is actually graphite plus a

> binder) works well on a copper surface,

> but, again, rather difficult to apply to

> a copper wire surface. What if your

> technique?

>

> ---

[Guest guest]

As Don pointed out, powdered Graphite is available from a hardware

store. FYI: It is used to lubricate metal parts, for (in-side)...LOCKS.

Lock Graphite is an ULTRA-FINE Dust...very easy to make a mess!

There are several (potential sources) of excelent Graphite Electrode

materials, as stated above Graphite is messy...thus prefer SILVER.

Being fairly new here, I'm not sure if you have ever looked into using

(easy to find) CARBON/(Graphite) Brushes, from Electric motors..?

They come in various sizes, typically as rectangular (pure-graphite)

blocks...that frequently have a flexable Cu wire molded inside-block

which you can easily use, to make your own wire connections to....

While I have not seen your sponge photos yet, I have also made-up

sponge electrode (with small slit) to help contain/(isolate) graphite~

If you would like to see some photos of my electrode designs, ask?

For MOTOR BRUSH sources, try Yellow Pages, under MOTOR, or

Electric GENERATOR Repair & Rebuilding Services, or still easier

look for places that sell (used) Vaccumm Cleaners...for BRUSHS~

Places that repair appliance motors, always have graphite brushes.

^BATZCUZ^

P.S. Not enought time now, but latter...may share more ideas, on

unique (cost effective) DIY materials and specialized electrodes..?

My personal thanks to Babby Grand, for moderating great groups!

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baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

wait for the photos that will show you. It's optional, I doubt it's

earth-shattering effect or even a detectable improvement..just an

experiment.

bG

>

> What are you using for a graphite source?

> Hardware stores have this in the form of

> a lubricant, but it is difficult to apply

> and is quickly washed off by water soaked

> electrodes. No. 1 lead pencil (the 'lead'

> in a pencil is actually graphite plus a

> binder) works well on a copper surface,

> but, again, rather difficult to apply to

> a copper wire surface. What if your

> technique?

>

> ---

FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to

members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the

posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether

jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but

cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical

benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

i would like to see some of your electrode pics..........i am

looking for as much info into making them.......especially using

sponges......

> >

> > What are you using for a graphite source?

> > Hardware stores have this in the form of

> > a lubricant, but it is difficult to apply

> > and is quickly washed off by water soaked

> > electrodes. No. 1 lead pencil (the 'lead'

> > in a pencil is actually graphite plus a

> > binder) works well on a copper surface,

> > but, again, rather difficult to apply to

> > a copper wire surface. What if your

> > technique?

> >

> > ---

>

>

>

>

>

> FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

>

> This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All

info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree

to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually.

We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks,

for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

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