Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Wow bG--this is terrific! I'm going to go and buy some small batteries, and a small box to put a new device in, and have one for the car and one in the house. What a great thing to introduce people to. As you say, much less frightening " to newbies! Good job. I think it would be really great to have a bunch of these on hand and give them away. I can buy a pack of 4 AA batteries for a buck an the dollar store here. This is such a cheap set to make, simple to build and easy to store. And--Christmas is right around the corner, what a great stocking stuffer. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- Our photos section shows the new design in 20 photos. I am just calling it " Godzilla " . The paddles type the one from a few days ago, are now " Heavy Duty Godzilla " . They require the lantern battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 bG, Ingenious! Thanks so much for the photos too... makes it all so simple. This is truly revolutionary medicine. Imagine how many BILLIONS we could save if folks used these devices. Bob New Godzilla Design--done! > Our photos section shows the new design in 20 photos. I am just > calling it " Godzilla " . The paddles type the one from a few days ago, > are now " Heavy Duty Godzilla " . They require the lantern battery. > > Officially godzilla now only requires 2 AA, AAA, C, or D batteries (or > any combination of those). You could use one AA, and the other C, or > one AAA and the other D. It will not matter, since they all have 1.5 > volts output. The device is at this link: > > /photos/album/13 > 57099984/pic/list > > Be sure to copy/paste the whole link from http: up to " list " > If the link does not work, then go to our group's main page, look to > the left side, and find the " photos " menu. Open the " godzilla " folder > and there you will find best device ever. It is also very easy and > quick to build. It is lighter, more portable, and easier to hold and > apply! > > bG > > > ------------------------------------ > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and > test results. > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, > from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or > individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything > about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, > for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 My thoughts exactly, plus helps them to be healthy, priceless! The hope for this particular design is confidence of usage. The very low voltage and small batteries should encourage people to try. An infection is scary. To add a scary device to treat it is, well, just a bit much for most people. I guess they'd rather avoid things like that in most cases. So, only a group of enthusiasts would use it up to now. That big blocky battery could scare a kid, at least, for sure, if not many adults in the home. But this latest design uses things people are used to. These AA's and other small batteries are always around. They are not afraid of them. Plus, it hits the low end of the voltage sweet spot, so less troubles with skin or other issues with heavy usage. This one is also convenient to build. Even kids can build these thinngs, and do their own science projects to research germs with it. There's just not a lot of limits here from the device. I wonder how much of the progress in this was stopped just by not having a good device that was available to anyone? Was it really narrow-mindedness holding this back? Or just a lot of issues with the device? bG > > bG, > > Ingenious! Thanks so much for the photos too... makes it all so > simple. This is truly revolutionary medicine. Imagine how many BILLIONS we > could save if folks used these devices. > > Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 > > Wow bG--this is terrific! I'm going to go and buy some small batteries, and > a small box to put a new device in, and have one for the car and one in the > house. What a great thing to introduce people to. As you say, much less > frightening " to newbies! Good job. > > I think it would be really great to have a bunch of these on hand and give > them away. I can buy a pack of 4 AA batteries for a buck an the dollar > store here. This is such a cheap set to make, simple to build and easy to > store. And--Christmas is right around the corner, what a great stocking > stuffer. :-) > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Our photos section shows the new design in 20 photos. I am just > calling it " Godzilla " . The paddles type the one from a few days ago, > are now " Heavy Duty Godzilla " . They require the lantern battery. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Oh my, this just keeps getting better and better! Something that can fit in a pocket and not snap the rubber bands off!! I LOVE this group! And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a polarity changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind switching the big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate--like I d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire at the connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would feel like they'd be durable. Yeah, yeah--I know they ARE durable, but hey, it's a female thing. :-) Delicate, don't 'cha know? Samala, -------Original Message------- Just a thought. Instead of using C, D, AA, AAA, batteries along with rubber bands to make the device for 3volts just use 2 button cells 1.5volts, solder the polarities on both cells with required lentgh of wire and make a slit in the sponge n insert the cell in each of the 2 sponge pieces n voila u have a decent n smart looking portable godzila. BG for your approval n refinement, if only we could find a cheap small chip or device to intermitently change polarity that would be a dream come true godzila even james bond would envy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 well it's true button cells offer compactness and stylishness. People who will do this are few and far between, but they could do it, true. we have the small circuit already for reversing current, V knows all about it. You have to set up a chain of marketing though and the FDA will pounce on you for that. Someday there will be acceptance and a whole world of new devices available for everyone without having to make them yourself. bG > > > Just a thought. Instead of using C, D, AA, AAA, batteries along with > rubber bands to make the device for 3volts just use 2 button cells > 1.5volts, solder the polarities on both cells with required lentgh of > wire and make a slit in the sponge n insert the cell in each of the 2 > sponge pieces n voila u have a decent n smart looking portable > godzila. > BG for your approval n refinement, if only we could find a cheap > small chip or device to intermitently change polarity that would be a > dream come true godzila even james bond would envy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 REALLY dumb question, but - I thought we'd just switch the SPONGIES from one side to the other? Oh boy, am I late for the boat or what! ../\_/\. Sigh, Sorcy (='.'=) ( " )_( " ) And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a polarity changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind switching the big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate--like I d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire at the connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would feel like they'd be durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Are you a blond? <grin> Jack > > REALLY dumb question, but - I thought we'd just switch the SPONGIES from one > side to the other? Oh boy, am I late for the boat or what! > > > > ./\_/\. Sigh, Sorcy > > (='.'=) > > ( " )_( " ) > > > > > > > > And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a polarity > changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind switching the > big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch > themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate-- like I > d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire at the > connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would feel > like they'd be durable. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 yes just reverse the sponges around 5-10 minute intervals. No reason to want a switch unless you are doing some whole body systemic thing for hours on end. Then you might want a more automatic system since your usage would be constant. Nobody but victims of AIDS, hep-c etc would need to even begin to consider that. The latest device is only 3 volts so reversing the sponges is less imperative than the 6 volts models. The time will be longer and action is a bit slower, so some of the effects will wash out as the device is being used at 3 volts. But, you can reverse it and feel at least you did something to avoid significant electrical chemical changes. bG > > REALLY dumb question, but - I thought we'd just switch the SPONGIES from one > side to the other? Oh boy, am I late for the boat or what! > > > > ./\_/\. Sigh, Sorcy > > (='.'=) > > ( " )_( " ) > > > > > > > > And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a polarity > changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind switching the > big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch > themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate-- like I > d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire at the > connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would feel > like they'd be durable. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 interestingly, a blonde helped me design and build the newest device. bG > > > > REALLY dumb question, but - I thought we'd just switch the SPONGIES > from one > > side to the other? Oh boy, am I late for the boat or what! > > > > > > > > ./\_/\. Sigh, Sorcy > > > > (='.'=) > > > > ( " )_( " ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a > polarity > > changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind > switching the > > big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch > > themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate-- > like I > > d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire > at the > > connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would > feel > > like they'd be durable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Or lazy people, like me. :-) Hey, if you're going to play with scissors, run full tilt! Samala, -------Original Message------- Yes just reverse the sponges around 5-10 minute intervals. No reason To want a switch unless you are doing some whole body systemic thing for hours on end. Nobody but victims of AIDS, hep-c etc would need to even begin to consider that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Excessively m'dear, now ANWER ME - lol Are you a blond? <grin> Jack > > REALLY dumb question, but - I thought we'd just switch the SPONGIES from one > side to the other? Oh boy, am I late for the boat or what! > > > > ./\_/\. Sigh, Sorcy > > (='.'=) > > ( " )_( " ) > > > > > > > > And soldering the batteries won't hurt them? I'd love to have a polarity > changer for this. Well, even for the AA device. I don't mind switching the > big 6 volt, but it would be nice to have the little devices switch > themselves. Even though they aren't, they SEEM to be more delicate-- like I > d feel as if I kept swapping them back and forth I may break a wire at the > connection junction. Without having to switch the sponges, I would feel > like they'd be durable. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 On 12/8/2008, baby_grand (no_reply ) wrote: > The latest device is only 3 volts so reversing the sponges is less > imperative than the 6 volts models. The time will be longer and > action is a bit slower, so some of the effects will wash out as the > device is being used at 3 volts. But, you can reverse it and feel at > least you did something to avoid significant electrical chemical > changes. I know this is a new design, and I know it depends on how much it is used, but for daily use of an hor or two, any indication on how long the batteries will last in this one? Should we plan on changing them weekly? Monthly? And thanks for the new design bg, this is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 interestingly, a blonde helped me design and build the newest device. --------------- now THAT makes perfect sense to ME, hehe hugs, Sorcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 note: an hour a day on the wrist or other arteries should cure Malaria in 3-7 days. So whatever you are doing bear in mind this is powerful stuff and you probably don't need that much of it. that said, you will not wear out the batteries that fast, I'd think, but I will make a meter-test to determine it. Typically AA batteries have about 1000mA hours or so, maybe more maybe less. Rechargeables such as NiMH used for cameras, have about 1500-2000. But their voltage is only 1.2 volts versus 1.5 volts for alkalines or other non-rechargeables. If you are using .3mA, you have over 3000 hours before they go dead. " other things fail, breakdown, etc. but batteries die. all they do is work and die. that existence sucks! " --dimitry martin bG > > The latest device is only 3 volts so reversing the sponges is less > > imperative than the 6 volts models. The time will be longer and > > action is a bit slower, so some of the effects will wash out as the > > device is being used at 3 volts. But, you can reverse it and feel at > > least you did something to avoid significant electrical chemical > > changes. > > I know this is a new design, and I know it depends on how much it is > used, but for daily use of an hor or two, any indication on how long the > batteries will last in this one? Should we plan on changing them weekly? > Monthly? > > And thanks for the new design bg, this is great! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Don't try to solder coin shaped batteries. They explode! You can buy holders for them on ebay, and solder the wires to the holders. However, you probably don't need 6 volts. 3 volt batteries may be enough. If you do need 6 volts you can stack two batteries in one holder. Ain't easy, but it can be done. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Explode. Well, glad I asked. I'll get a holder for them. Thanks. Samala, -------Original Message------- Don't try to solder coin shaped batteries. They explode! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Dick, Yeah and don't short out the coin shaped lithium batteries either they will spill some seriously strong acid and fumes when they are shorted as I found out one day when there was one in a pile of metal parts in a box. Take care, V > Don't try to solder coin shaped batteries. They explode! You can > buy holders for them on ebay, and solder the wires to the holders. > However, you probably don't need 6 volts. 3 volt batteries may be > enough. If you do need 6 volts you can stack two batteries in one > holder. Ain't easy, but it can be done. > Dick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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