Goals

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They all hammered in my head that at 5:5, I should be 150, yep that suppose to

be the higher end for a " healthy BMI " , but but I was that weight when I got

married and I did not " look good " .

My noze looked very big my eyes were sinked in and my chest bones showing too

much.

Yes, I would think that is a " healthy BMI " but what about been healthy in

apparence?

I think that for me, if I hit 160/165, dam !!!!, I would look very good and

very happy and of course lot more healthy than at 198.

Lidia

Ada <lap.bandit@...> wrote:

I was just wondering how everybody decided on their

goal weights.

My doc wants me to focus on the process and learning

to live my new life instead of paying so much

attention to the numbers, so I don't actually have a

goal weight. Since I have never been lower than this

weight as an adult I really have no idea what I should

be shooting for. At this point I'm actually fairly

content not having a goal for myself, but I'd still

like to hear how others picked a goal for themselves.

Thanks in advance

- Ada

5'6 " Age 26

364 / 285 / 238

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Lidia, you've got that right about keeping goal weight in perspective with

looking healthy! My goal weight is completely different than the suggested

weight for my height according to height/weight charts. I know my body and

I am very muscular for a woman and I have a larger frame. That is another

reason for my goal weight. If anyone wants to see my progress so far you

can find me on www.obesityhelp.com I am " Kyliemomma " on there.

Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing!

5'11 " 306 / 238 / 180

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>From: Lidia Savage <crazycibertalk@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Goals

>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:56:30 -0700 (PDT)

>

>They all hammered in my head that at 5:5, I should be 150, yep that suppose

>to be the higher end for a " healthy BMI " , but but I was that weight when I

>got married and I did not " look good " .

> My noze looked very big my eyes were sinked in and my chest bones

>showing too much.

> Yes, I would think that is a " healthy BMI " but what about been healthy

>in apparence?

>

> I think that for me, if I hit 160/165, dam !!!!, I would look very good

>and very happy and of course lot more healthy than at 198.

>

> Lidia

>

>Ada <lap.bandit@...> wrote:

> I was just wondering how everybody decided on their

>goal weights.

>My doc wants me to focus on the process and learning

>to live my new life instead of paying so much

>attention to the numbers, so I don't actually have a

>goal weight. Since I have never been lower than this

>weight as an adult I really have no idea what I should

>be shooting for. At this point I'm actually fairly

>content not having a goal for myself, but I'd still

>like to hear how others picked a goal for themselves.

>

>Thanks in advance

>

>- Ada

>

>5'6 " Age 26

>364 / 285 / 238

>Consult/Band Day/Now

>7.20.06/3.19.07/7.10.07

>Lap Band by Dr. Greene in Rockville, MD

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,

I checked out you obesity help page. You look Fabulous! Your little girl is so

cute.

Ada

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There are some general height and weight charts that can give a

general idea. But, imo, aiming for a normal-range BMI is the most

impt thing. That range is the range of weight in which obesity-

related illnesses are the least likely.

A normal BMI is about 18.5 to 24.9. That takes into account different

frames and a few other factors.

Here is a good link that explains more about BMI, assessing a good

weight, etc: http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

Sandy R

at goal x 3.5 yrs

>

> I was just wondering how everybody decided on their

> goal weights.

> My doc wants me to focus on the process and learning

> to live my new life instead of paying so much

> attention to the numbers, so I don't actually have a

> goal weight. Since I have never been lower than this

> weight as an adult I really have no idea what I should

> be shooting for. At this point I'm actually fairly

> content not having a goal for myself, but I'd still

> like to hear how others picked a goal for themselves.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

> - Ada

>

> 5'6 " Age 26

> 364 / 285 / 238

> Consult/Band Day/Now

> 7.20.06/3.19.07/7.10.07

> Lap Band by Dr. Greene in Rockville, MD

>

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Thanks Ada!

Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing!

5'11 " 306 / 238 / 180

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>From: Ada <lap.bandit@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Goals

>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:32:50 -0700 (PDT)

>

>,

>

>I checked out you obesity help page. You look Fabulous! Your little girl

>is so cute.

>

>Ada

>

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// If anyone wants to see my progress so far you

> can find me on www.obesityhelp.com I am " Kyliemomma " on there.

>

> //

, I tried to search under " Kyliemomma " on obesityhelp.com and I

couldn't find you. What am I doing wrong? I went on their site, then

to People Search and typed in Kyliemomma under User Name. No member

found.

anna

4/12/07 NWWLS

223/201/130ish

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anna,

It is: KyliesMomma I think I left the S out when I posted that. SORRY!

If you still have trouble you can search my actual name: Modispaw

Sometimes being a loser is a GOOD thing!

5'11 " 306 / 238 / 180

PreOp / Now/ Goal

>From: " mary_anna29 " <mariannami@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Goals

>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:01:32 -0000

>

>// If anyone wants to see my progress so far you

> > can find me on www.obesityhelp.com I am " Kyliemomma " on there.

> >

> > //

>

>, I tried to search under " Kyliemomma " on obesityhelp.com and I

>couldn't find you. What am I doing wrong? I went on their site, then

>to People Search and typed in Kyliemomma under User Name. No member

>found.

>

>anna

>4/12/07 NWWLS

>223/201/130ish

>

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New members especially might wonder what we are trying to do here.

Older members probably have a general idea, and I have had inklings, but

nothing solid till now.

Whether the germs are in us, food, the environment, etc, and whether

they affect health or are just interesting experiments, if we hit them

with microelectricity, we should consider it a victory. It's what we

are about. Activities that lead to that act happening, are the ones to

stress. Other things that don't result in germs getting hit, are less

important alongside that one.

I've spoken and written to authorities on this subject, to doctors,

scientists, those who could have been advocates. It didn't work. It

was embarrassing, in fact. So eventually I stopped doing it. Even

people dying with infections tended to be hostile to the idea. The

caregivers, Mom's, husbands, some nurses, etc, tended to be much more

accepting.

I've written up lots of advice for newcomers and kept lots of records on

experiments. I designed the 6 volt godzilla devices in our photos

section. Those things did make things happen.

Every time I've seen germs getting hit with microelectricity, there has

been a surge in this. And everytime the activity did not result in

that, nothing happened of any benefit. Discussions died out. Letters

went unanswered. Great automatic designs were built and lost. I

think I know why. If germs are not being hit, then things stop.

So, if you would like to see this expand, test your efforts to see if

they do hit germs with microelectricity. Not maybe. If you want to

expand the uses in your area, remember that Caregivers love this. If

you mention it 3 times briefly to someone with a need for it, they will

accept it usually. Healthcare professionals are not all caregivers and

most are legally restrained from using it, so you can't talk them into

it. They show up here because they are curious and find out it is

fact-based, so they do use it to some extent. Their numbers are the

smallest of all our members, but they are certainly welcomed here,

because it takes great courage to buck the trend. But beware of the

legalities and don't press this on sick people, though you could mention

the group.

There should be many opportunities to hit those germs, despite the

limitations on it. As more germs get hit, this will grow and the world

will be a better place for us. Not-so-hot for germs, but when did they

give us a break?

have fun.

bG

[Guest guest]

Hey DR, good info.

What was the surface area of

the sponge over the painful area?

From: Dick Rochon <rrochon13@...>

Subject: Re:Goals

Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 11:40 AM

Good advise, BG, but I am sure you realize that pain can also be alleviated

with microcurrent, even when there does not appear to be any infection.

I recently came down with severe lower back pain that was diagnosed as strained

muscle. They checked my urine and prostate to eliminate them as the cause.

Kidney infection was my first thought, but they said no. I don't recall

straining it in any way, but it could be caused by the way I had been sitting,

or almost anything. I could not bend over, raise my legs, and got a stabbing

pain if I moved or stepped the wrong way. Turning over in bed was a painful

chore. I am sure that anyone who has ever pulled a back muscle knows what I am

talking about.

I put a wet sponge electrode over the painful spot on my back and another on my

abdomen, strapped them on with an Ace bandage, hooked them up to a 6v battery

supply, adjusted the current to below 500uA, and let it run for about an hour,

switching polarity about every 20 minutes. I did this Thursday, and Friday the

pain was 90% gone. I treated it again on Friday, and Saturday there was no pain,

regardless of how I moved.

Now maybe it would have gotten better anyway, but it didn't cost me anything,

and it sure feels good not to hurt. I guess we will need to get two thousand

people with the same back pain, and hook them all up to a Godzilla, leaving the

power off on half of them, making sure not to let the victims or the helpers

know which is turned off, then switch the switch on both devices half way

through the treatment, and record the results. And also, spend millions of

dollars on the project. Then maybe the medical industry will take us seriously,

but I doubt it.

By the way, when I had to go to an endodontist to have a failed root canal

reworked, I told him about using microcurrent to reduce the infection and

relieve the pain, he was very interested. Said that he had never heard of using

microcurrent like this, although he was aware that it is sometimes used to heal

bones that won't knit, or ulcers that won't heal, etc., so he was not surprised

that it would work on infected teeth. He was, however, surprised that laymen

were experimenting like this. He said that while electricity would kill the

infection in the tooth and jawbone, it would come back, because the rotten nerve

would keep leaking into the bone and reinfecting it. And that the same was true

using antibiotics on tooth or bone infections.

Regards,

Dick

[Guest guest]

This is excellent, Dick. I filed it in our group menu/files/results.

You're right, there's pain relief available sometimes with this.

Even Gout pain gone for a year with ONE application of DC current.

Gout probably is affected by dissolving the crystals that hurt the

joints. In your own case, I have a theory. There's a specific

protein the body makes up for each area in case of injury. It sends

this protein to the area and the protein causes an inflammation. For

awhile the inflammation is a good thing, brings healing. But after

awhile, it becomes a problem. The inflammation persists long after

the injury has been dealt with and the pain from inflammation will

persist. The use of microelectricity to it will reduce the protein

and relieve the inflammation. It's probably same idea as spider

venom applications we have seen folks doing.

It really is unique what we are doing here, your dentist was right.

This is the Edison approach, do a few thousand random experiments and

finally wind up with the key.

It's simple enough that even if they did announce the miracle, almost

nobody would need their services along with it. All they could lend

would be credibility. And I fear they would alter it so that you

would find practitioners all doing something claiming this and that.

Our way, the public gets it right. Less confusion, more clearcut

usage instructions. Less overhead, more results.

Keep up the great work!

bG

>

>

> Good advise, BG, but I am sure you realize that pain can also be

alleviated with microcurrent, even when there does not appear to be

any infection.

>

> I recently came down with severe lower back pain that was diagnosed

as strained muscle. They checked my urine and prostate to eliminate

them as the cause. Kidney infection was my first thought, but they

said no. I don't recall straining it in any way, but it could be

caused by the way I had been sitting, or almost anything. I could not

bend over, raise my legs, and got a stabbing pain if I moved or

stepped the wrong way. Turning over in bed was a painful chore. I am

sure that anyone who has ever pulled a back muscle knows what I am

talking about.

>

> I put a wet sponge electrode over the painful spot on my back and

another on my abdomen, strapped them on with an Ace bandage, hooked

them up to a 6v battery supply, adjusted the current to below 500uA,

and let it run for about an hour, switching polarity about every 20

minutes. I did this Thursday, and Friday the pain was 90% gone. I

treated it again on Friday, and Saturday there was no pain,

regardless of how I moved.

>

> Now maybe it would have gotten better anyway, but it didn't cost me

anything, and it sure feels good not to hurt. I guess we will need to

get two thousand people with the same back pain, and hook them all up

to a Godzilla, leaving the power off on half of them, making sure not

to let the victims or the helpers know which is turned off, then

switch the switch on both devices half way through the treatment, and

record the results. And also, spend millions of dollars on the

project. Then maybe the medical industry will take us seriously, but

I doubt it.

>

> By the way, when I had to go to an endodontist to have a failed

root canal reworked, I told him about using microcurrent to reduce

the infection and relieve the pain, he was very interested. Said that

he had never heard of using microcurrent like this, although he was

aware that it is sometimes used to heal bones that won't knit, or

ulcers that won't heal, etc., so he was not surprised that it would

work on infected teeth. He was, however, surprised that laymen were

experimenting like this. He said that while electricity would kill

the infection in the tooth and jawbone, it would come back, because

the rotten nerve would keep leaking into the bone and reinfecting it.

And that the same was true using antibiotics on tooth or bone

infections.

>

> Regards,

>

> Dick

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Do you have goals?

>

> Do you have dreams?

A full night's sleep would be nice, without interruption by a 91 yo lady

with insomnia who believers the world should be awake because *she* is.

Maybe now that she's back home she'll feel more comfortable and give us

a night off.

> I remember talking to the GYN about the female surgery coming up and

he commented that it's not just iron, etc that we lose during TOMs, but

the need to rebuild the protein, etc in our system.

And with you about to undergo surgery, you have to be doubly sure to

keep thsoe protein and iron stores up. A little extra vitamin C would be

good, too.

> Goes to show me.? I had lunch about 12:30 ish this afternoon and by 3

I was hungry.? Not a bored, tired or anything else hungry, but a

growling Oh.My.Gosh. I need to put something in my tummy hungry,

I have so many days like that when I stick 100% to the low fat vegan

food plan. The foods digest out of the stomach so fast, even with all

the whole grains, that we're told to eat at least 6 small meals

throughout the day instead of three large ones.

> It's CC (Cross Country) night for DS, so I will have to run and fix

dinner right now.

Did you find some way to get him there every week? You said it was over

an hour drive away, IIRC (and I'e been forgetting a lot lately so I

might be wrong).

> This is better than having no plan and looking to fast food on the

drive home, trust me.

About the only thing I'm greatful for, having the aunt back home, is

that I *will* be home for lunch and dinner every day. Today she wanted

Mc's as her " welcome home " meal so we grabbed some, and I was so

hungry (I made my lunch but forgot to grab it in the rush to get out

this morning) I had a burger and oh, did I regret it 5 minutes later!

> I also need to get in there and exercise.

I did a wuickie BlastOff video this morning, then spent 2 hours carrying

clothing and suitcases up and down 2 flights of stairs trying to get her

stuff put away with her changing her mind over and over again where she

wanted everything. And the heat! The thermometer in the dining room read

85 and we had to *beg* her to let us put the AC on. By the itme we left

3 hours later it was down one degree, but at least the humidity level

dropped a bit.

> Probably do my WATP

I miss my ! My left foot with plantar fasciitis was *just* about

back to normal - I even did one of the 1-mile workouts - before we took

the aunt to the ER. After standing for 6 straight hours that day, by the

time we got home I could barely put any pressure on that foot at all,

and these past 2 weeks it was back to as bad as it's been. Today it

wasn't so bad, but I'm sure all those stairs didn't help it any. Let's

see what tomorrow brings.

> Have a great Wednesday!

And *you* - and everyone else - have a great weekend.

Sue in NJ