RE: HIV/AIDS patient attitudes

[Guest guest]

Hey bG. We have discussed this very idea on the MMS list. There are many

people that think viruses, being living things, have a need to survive. And

so they adapt and make people do things they wouldn't normally do, like

forget to take medicines, doubt their protocols (that kill the virus), make

them depressed. It's an interesting theory, which makes sense!!

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

Ok, that may sound like bad actors, but.. I am wondering if this virus

tends to make them so? Could the virus stimulate the attitudes and

behaviors that lead to its own spread?

In other words, I am wondering if the attitudes are programmed with the

virus, and turn its victims into real victims who go into such despair

as to become apathetic and willing carriers par excellance?

[Guest guest]

i would think the prognosis in general and social stigma combined with all

the controversy about the origin, treatment protocols, etc etc, would be

enough to do it at least for awhile, especially if lover/friend/family

support isn't real good ... the stronger ones regain some equilibrium and

adjust to the situation with some different perspectives on life and

society.

physiological effects must be there too.

hep-C is bad enough in some of those regards, and when active/advanced for

absolutely certain creates adverse mental states ... HIV must be tougher

yet.... co-infected with both - ...gotta have something(s) really together

to make it.

> HIV/AIDS patient attitudes

>

>

> I've noticed no response to the offers to HIV people here.

>

> Per some ER folks, HIV/aids people are hard to work with. They tend to

> be less than forthcoming cooperative or causative, tending instead

> towards a victim status with little effort to reform or improve.

>

> Ok, that may sound like bad actors, but.. I am wondering if this virus

> tends to make them so? Could the virus stimulate the attitudes and

> behaviors that lead to its own spread?

>

> In other words, I am wondering if the attitudes are programmed with the

> virus, and turn its victims into real victims who go into such despair

> as to become apathetic and willing carriers par excellance?

>

> I'm really not sure, just positing a hypothesis here. Maybe these

> folks were not always so, and the disease has changed not only their

> immunity but dampened their spirits, as well?

>

> bG

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[Guest guest]

As someone with CFS I know I constantly have to fight lethargy and

hopelessness. I have to push myself to be diligent about the protocols

and sometimes I fall off the wagon. " I'm too tired. I'll just sit here

and veg out. Why bother, it's not going to work any way, etc etc. "

>

> I've noticed no response to the offers to HIV people here.

>

> Per some ER folks, HIV/aids people are hard to work with. They tend to

> be less than forthcoming cooperative or causative, tending instead

> towards a victim status with little effort to reform or improve.

>

> Ok, that may sound like bad actors, but.. I am wondering if this virus

> tends to make them so? Could the virus stimulate the attitudes and

> behaviors that lead to its own spread?

>

> In other words, I am wondering if the attitudes are programmed with the

> virus, and turn its victims into real victims who go into such despair

> as to become apathetic and willing carriers par excellance?

>

> I'm really not sure, just positing a hypothesis here. Maybe these

> folks were not always so, and the disease has changed not only their

> immunity but dampened their spirits, as well?

>

> bG

>

[Guest guest]

sorry to hear that! have you considered doing whole body

electrification? using a conductive pad like the bubble wrap that's

aluminized on each side to make a lower sheet cover with a 12 inch

break in the middle. Attach to a 1.5-2.0 volt battery pack using

alligator clips. one clip to each half of the sheet? migth work.

you figure it out the details ok?

bG

> >

> > I've noticed no response to the offers to HIV people here.

> >

> > Per some ER folks, HIV/aids people are hard to work with. They

tend to

> > be less than forthcoming cooperative or causative, tending

instead

> > towards a victim status with little effort to reform or improve.

> >

> > Ok, that may sound like bad actors, but.. I am wondering if this

virus

> > tends to make them so? Could the virus stimulate the attitudes

and

> > behaviors that lead to its own spread?

> >

> > In other words, I am wondering if the attitudes are programmed

with the

> > virus, and turn its victims into real victims who go into such

despair

> > as to become apathetic and willing carriers par excellance?

> >

> > I'm really not sure, just positing a hypothesis here. Maybe

these

> > folks were not always so, and the disease has changed not only

their

> > immunity but dampened their spirits, as well?

> >

> > bG

> >

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