Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I have used one for years. He has several testimonials on his site www.worldwithoutparasites.com Based on my experiences with his zappers over several years time, I believe every word of each one, and some of those testimonials are surprising and unusual. Best wishes, pj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I can only speak from my own personal experience with The Don Croft Terminator. I wore it 23 hours per day (took it off for showers) for 8 months straight. It made absolutely zero difference in my hiv viral load and zero difference in my cd4 count. I am no longer a believer in The Terminator. Supposedly it works for others, but made ZERO difference in my bloodwork. I ate 50% raw organic food, drank filtered water and took good care of myself and no medications. It made no difference of any kind that I could notice. Not just in my bloodwork, but others claim it gives them more energy, sense of well being, etc. I was a firm believer. Now I am not. From: Shirley <pj20844@...> Subject: Croft Terminator Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 4:25 PM I have used one for years. He has several testimonials on his site www.worldwithoutpar asites.com Based on my experiences with his zappers over several years time, I believe every word of each one, and some of those testimonials are surprising and unusual. Best wishes, pj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Sorry it did not work for you . The explanation has to do with the total current absorbed by virus. Total current = instantaneous current x time. If the virus is not in the path of the current then the virus receives little or no current. remember it has to lie between the electrodes somewhere or the current will run from electrode-to-electrode and not pass through the virus. The virus has to be geometrically in between. Not just " somewhere in the body " . Think of a straight line between the electrodes, is the virus right there? or somewhere else? You have to be responsible for applying these 2 formulas: virus attenuation = total current, and total current = instantaneous current x time. Read over this and ask me questions you may have. Any DC device with 3-6 volts is going to work well if it finds the virus in its path, and it is run for 20 minutes twice a day, reversing the current every 5 minutes. You can reverse it by changing the pads position, easiest way to avoid spikes from switches, etc. It is not forever, the virus will go away for years, as it is a slow (lenti-virus). We have removed HIV from blood almost completely. The trouble is the CD4 count needs to be raised, and for that you have to find any reserviors of HIV that are eating up CD4 cells. This usually happens in linings of the gut, thymus gland, possibly spleen, maybe other places but the GUT and Thymus are the main threats. If we place pads on the gut area, and thymus, will we get rid of a lot of HIV? We need to know that. It's why I designed the Ultimate Godzilla, for HIV folks. I think some may be using it, but nobody bothers to inform us, so you have zero info on that. It's partly your own fault for not doing and reporting, and partly theirs for the same failure. This is science. It is double-blind tested already in the lab. It is not someone selling you a gadget and a lot of hope. This is just plain old work (see our photos menu, get list of stuff you need, sit down and build it. use it best you can, report how it goes, revise the approach, try again, etc) It's ditch digging. You don't send away and open the box a week later and presto. Nope. Once we do have the exact method figured out, what pads, what timing, what location on the body, etc...yeah, then you can do it easily. But for now, it needs humans to test it on various parts of the body, for various times, and see what has an effect on CD4. We do NOT care much about blood viral loads, as the CD4-eaters may not be in the blood. We can always clean the blood, that has been shown over and over. And we can save lives using againts AIDS infections on top of HIV. Getting rid of the HIV is just a simple matter of persistent test work and we need HIV people to do that. I don't have the virus, but if I did, I'd sure be very curious to know how to reduce it using proven science like the Kaali-Lyman study we depend on, not some gadget based on rave reports only. We have both rave reports on germs, and pure hard science. You can't beat that, and the sooner you take it up in a workmanlike fashion, the sooner you and all others with HIV are going to get well. bG > From: Shirley <pj20844@...> > Subject: Croft Terminator > > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 4:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used one for years. He has several testimonials on his site www.worldwithoutpar asites.com Based on my experiences with his zappers over several years time, I believe every word of each one, and some of those testimonials are surprising and unusual. Best wishes, pj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Hi BG, As a longtime member of this group and after reading all your invaluable info. I understand everything you say. With that in mind though there is no way the The Don Croft Terminator can work for hiv. Wire and battery has the ability to work of course as you've stated many times because the electrical current passes through the hiv. But as the way The Terminator is designed there is no way it can do the same thing. It's flawed by design. Maybe it has a place in electro medicine or maybe it doesn't. But for hiv I don't see how it could help anyone. For the 8 months I wore it I alternated wearing it on my wrist and over my gut areas and thymus. It did nothing of course because there was no way for it to pass the current through the hiv correct? I am a firm believer in everything you talk about and am not trying to sound combative. I am just sad when people think The Terminator is some how going to help them for hiv when in reality I just don't see how it can by design. Please correct me if i'm wrong as I very much value all of your experience. I guess I just wish the issue could be clarified so that others do not waste there money. By the way my Terminator has done nothing for me so anyone who wants it I will give it to you for free minus the cost of shipping if anyone wants it. From: baby_grand <no_reply > Subject: Re: Croft Terminator Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 10:49 AM Sorry it did not work for you . The explanation has to do with the total current absorbed by virus. Total current = instantaneous current x time. If the virus is not in the path of the current then the virus receives little or no current. remember it has to lie between the electrodes somewhere or the current will run from electrode-to- electrode and not pass through the virus. The virus has to be geometrically in between. Not just " somewhere in the body " . Think of a straight line between the electrodes, is the virus right there? or somewhere else? You have to be responsible for applying these 2 formulas: virus attenuation = total current, and total current = instantaneous current x time. Read over this and ask me questions you may have. Any DC device with 3-6 volts is going to work well if it finds the virus in its path, and it is run for 20 minutes twice a day, reversing the current every 5 minutes. You can reverse it by changing the pads position, easiest way to avoid spikes from switches, etc. It is not forever, the virus will go away for years, as it is a slow (lenti-virus) . We have removed HIV from blood almost completely. The trouble is the CD4 count needs to be raised, and for that you have to find any reserviors of HIV that are eating up CD4 cells. This usually happens in linings of the gut, thymus gland, possibly spleen, maybe other places but the GUT and Thymus are the main threats. If we place pads on the gut area, and thymus, will we get rid of a lot of HIV? We need to know that. It's why I designed the Ultimate Godzilla, for HIV folks. I think some may be using it, but nobody bothers to inform us, so you have zero info on that. It's partly your own fault for not doing and reporting, and partly theirs for the same failure. This is science. It is double-blind tested already in the lab. It is not someone selling you a gadget and a lot of hope. This is just plain old work (see our photos menu, get list of stuff you need, sit down and build it. use it best you can, report how it goes, revise the approach, try again, etc) It's ditch digging. You don't send away and open the box a week later and presto. Nope. Once we do have the exact method figured out, what pads, what timing, what location on the body, etc...yeah, then you can do it easily. But for now, it needs humans to test it on various parts of the body, for various times, and see what has an effect on CD4. We do NOT care much about blood viral loads, as the CD4-eaters may not be in the blood. We can always clean the blood, that has been shown over and over. And we can save lives using againts AIDS infections on top of HIV. Getting rid of the HIV is just a simple matter of persistent test work and we need HIV people to do that. I don't have the virus, but if I did, I'd sure be very curious to know how to reduce it using proven science like the Kaali-Lyman study we depend on, not some gadget based on rave reports only. We have both rave reports on germs, and pure hard science. You can't beat that, and the sooner you take it up in a workmanlike fashion, the sooner you and all others with HIV are going to get well. bG > From: Shirley <pj20844@... > > Subject: Croft Terminator > microelectricityger mkiller@gro ups.com > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 4:25 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > I have used one for years. He has several testimonials on his site www.worldwithoutpar asites.com Based on my experiences with his zappers over several years time, I believe every word of each one, and some of those testimonials are surprising and unusual. Best wishes, pj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Thanks, , it's great to hear you are following the develops here. You will not be sorry I am sure your time will be well-spent. We use a technique that was lab-researched by doctors and written in a Symposium. It was double-blinded, and presented to peers for their review. In the lab they showed a 99 percent reduction in 3 minutes. That is so dramatic that no experimental error could possibly account for it. They said the test was repeated many times, and the same results were obtained. There is no more evidence required or possible. Can our DC 6 volt battery device apply enough current to the HIV in the gut and thymus by placing sponge pads on the skin, so that the HIV is similarly reduced even 5-10 percent a week would be fantastic. HIV takes years to grow. But we won't know till someone does it over a period of weeks and months with testing. If it can, you're home free and will be rid of HIV, perhaps the first ever without drugs. But the question is have you tried it yet? Do you plan to? Please let us know. You are holding the key..go ahead and turn it. bG The Terminator I'd agree that it cannot work if it seeks to use electric current, as the total current delivered to the virus is too low to inactivate the virus. The doctors in the experiment tried various levels of current and below a certain level the effect disappeared, HIV was not inactivated. You need a certain level, and from what I read of the Terminator, it is not possible for that device to come anywhere close to the right level applied to the virus. Part of the lack is the placement of electrodes, and the other may be the level of current used and surface area of electrodes used. In all, it is not a device I would use if I had HIV. Nor the or Beck or Rife. I would use the Ultimate Godzilla pads over the gut and thymus as a first test. Then go from there. We do not know yet if we can kill off the HIV in gut. But, if we did reach the HIV with enough current somehow, I am sure, no, very sure, that we could do it. bG > > Hi BG, > > As a longtime member of this group and after reading all your invaluable info. I understand everything you say. With that in mind though there is no way the The Don Croft Terminator can work for hiv. Wire and battery has the ability to work of course as you've stated many times because the electrical current passes through the hiv. But as the way The Terminator is designed there is no way it can do the same thing. It's flawed by design. Maybe it has a place in electro medicine or maybe it doesn't. But for hiv I don't see how it could help anyone. For the 8 months I wore it I alternated wearing it on my wrist and over my gut areas and thymus. It did nothing of course because there was no way for it to pass the current through the hiv correct? I am a firm believer in everything you talk about and am not trying to sound combative. I am just sad when people think The Terminator is some how going to help them for hiv when in reality I just don't see how it > can by design. Please correct me if i'm wrong as I very much value all of your experience. I guess I just wish the issue could be clarified so that others do not waste there money. By the way my Terminator has done nothing for me so anyone who wants it I will give it to you for free minus the cost of shipping if anyone wants it. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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