Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 We were able to get a count of close to zero in an hour a day with HCV. This is hep-c, right? You need more advice on the electrodes placement, if so. Long sessions like that are not too useful, but using it on wrists and/or ankles alternately for 30 minutes am, 30 minutes pm with dc at around .5mA or so, let's say ankles in the am, wrists in the pm, you would interrupt the virus replication cycle. The virus reproduces inside liver cells, but is also carried away in the blood. So both places need to be treated, hopefully at the same time. So it's electrodes on arteries for 30 minutes along with pads on the liver for 30 as well. You might as well make a box to hold a 100k potentiometer, and a reversing switch. You can lower the current way down, flip the switch and raise it back up again. A meter in the circuit is also essential. HCV is a serious major illness and your device should give you the readings for your dosing, current, so you can figure out what levels you will need in the future to keep it under control. The only full remission we had was using drugs PLUS this on the bloodstream. It does no good to get to zero then it shoots up again later. A " liveable " routine might be best to figure out for yourself ongoing. Trying to knock this out without using drugs, just this alone, may not work, in fact I am almost sure of it. The guy who got it near zero stopped for two weeks and it was back up to almost a million again. So there has to be BOTH a therapeutic, and ALSO a maintenance dose, and you need the meter in there to monitor the current. If too much your skin gets sore, or too little you don't get enough, etc. And you need periodic testing for the viral load. Expect to see it almost unmoved for about 6 weeks, then start to drop rapidly over the next 9 or 10 weeks. It could go faster or slower, but it should follow that basic pattern. The virus is hardy and lives despite being inactivated by the current. But it stops reproducing. All of a sudden a lot of it begins to die off and the numbers get lower. It will come back as long as the liver cells hold onto it. Our subject also took a couple of ounces of colloidal silver daily. It seems to me this is good, just get a good device to make it with. Silvergen SG6 is, to me, the best one, about 200 bucks but lasts forever. Used distilled water to make first batch, then seed the next one from it, using a small amount to start it out and get there faster. It makes perfectly clear, but very good CS. I would take a couple ounces in the am, and Pm a bit before you are doing the electrifying on the body. Also, get an ultrasonic humidifier, and put CS into it. Use it up close while you electrify. It will put CS into the blood, which will get into the liver, as well. These would be my best-known info on this. Set a goal, reduce or at least control the numbers, get a workable level of the virus, reduce the treatments to where they are liveable and ok to do, without too much effort, and yet assure you are healthy. Having zero count or a small count would both be huge victories if they can be achieved. If using the Hep-c meds, along with this, then I am much more optimistic. But not everyone can tolerate those meds, I know. Keep us posted, we will all be very happy to help. bG > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > � > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Most helpful info BG, many thanks!! Yes, I have chronic end stage Hep.C with Ascides, but the diuretics controls the ascides problem, Came down hard with this almost 2 yrs. ago, was told had less than 6 months left, was very weak in a wheel chair then though. They won't put me on the treatment interferon etc. if I begged them..so I only go back to the doc's to get a blood test now and then and to get my script refilled for diuretics. Much research and ups & downs with herbal formula's. Tried the MMS and it done great for a few months, but just couldn't do it anymore, got too harsh with strong reactions, so then went to ozone/saline IV's 3 times a wk. but after about 4 months or so, my nurse friend just couldn't find any good veins to hit anymore..blood test were coming back perfectly normal when I ran out of veins.. but then I just sort of gave up hope, didn't do anything for a month, other than making my peace and getting ready to go home, the virus did come back strongly, don't need a blood test to know all the signs, growing weaker by the day, brain fog, fuzzy vision, etc. So next I ran across a post about a Godzilla thing, and wondered what it was, all I found at first on the net about it was some monkey on a tall tower, but found another post with a web link to here.. So that's my tell of it.. Never tried the C.Silver, but have known about it for some time..am still recovering from Christmas, so will have to wait on that... I believe you're right on spot about it taking a combo of things to hammer the virus out the window, then onto a good maintenance plan.. so I'll try this.. Not sure what a Reverse switch & a 100K Potentiometer is, but will ask for those at Radio Shack. I do have the multi-meter though. I don't know how many hours the 6 volt battery will last, but assuming that the uA will drop off less than 500uA on down as the battery gets low... Do I understand right, that while doing the wrist or ankles, at the same time as liver, [front/back] that these are to be wired inline to the same meters & 6 volt battery? Should the cloth over the wires on wrist/ankles be damp/wet with backing soda too? What would be the longest session time of doing the 500uA be? Again, Many Thanks for teaching me about all of this..it comes as a light in the night, and am very thankful for this info. > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > � > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Your first step, then, would be to get the 6 volt battery, wire, tape, cotton cloth or cotton/poly, and make the bloodstream model you should see in the menu/photos section, and get it onto your wrists for 30 minutes. The cloth is wetted with plain water at first, until you get your meter in place. If you are going out shopping for this stuff and can spring for a cheap meter (5-20 bucks outa do it) every 5 minutes reverse the electrode positions. After doing this twice once am and once pm for two days, stop and observe if you get dieoff symptoms (tired, headache, smelly stool more than usual, depressed more than usual, etc). If so, then reduce to 2 10 minute sessions the next two days. Stop and observe..etc. Do this NOW, the rest can follow. bG > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > � > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 be sure to use wrists once, then rest them, using for next session your pulse point on the ankles between the ankle joint and achilles tendon on the inner ankle..feel for it. On wrists there are two pulse points, one closer to the radius bone (thumb side), the other about 1.5 inches away towards the ulna bone (pinky side). You can use one or the other on alternate days to keep the skin fresh. Dont mess up the skin, go real easy. You will get hang of it. Once you can meter it, to tame it down, use more cloth windings, to increase it, use baking soda pinch in final rinse. Also, stick to around .3mA-.4mA if you can do that at first, see how you react, etc. bG > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Thanks for the tips on how to increase/reduce the current with the cloth wraps. I went shopping today for all the parts that I'll need, but couldn't find the 100K liner Pot nor a dpdt switch, so put those two items on order, Our local Radio Shack doesn't stock very much, mostly have to order everything. Got the sponges, 12 extension cord, have a digital multimeter, can of contact cement, and got a card with a variety of Resistors ranging from 82^ up to 680k, [the card also ha a Diode, and several Capacitors on it too] The multimeter that I have is somewhat different than they ones shown on the instruction photo's though, It's a Velleman DVM850BL model, digital display, and on the amp side, it has settings for 200uA, 2m, 20m, 200m, and 10A . So not sure what setting it should be set at after it's wired up according to photo instructions. Will be putting the metered design together tonight so hopefully, I can get in a treatment before going to bed. Thanks for helping BG.. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 All right, FP, Set the meter on 2mA. That means the highest value it will show is 2.0 milliamps. You will be using .3mA-.7mA or so on wrists. So you will be in the lower end of the range and the numbers shown will be three digits. If it says 250, read it as .250mA. You don't need the other parts right away. You can tweak the power by cutting off some wire, adding some cloth, adding or subtracting pinch of baking soda from final rinse. These methods all work to some degree. Having the meter will show you exactly what it going on. Good, good work, keep it up. You will need some sort of strap, a belt or elastic, or even plastic bags taped together to make something to hold the sponges on the liver and back areas. I'm sure you will figure it out, even some old suspenders might work somehow.. You should not need resistors if using 6 volt battery, like a lantern battery. If using higher voltages, yes that would be good idea. But the potentiometer will also give you control down very low. The resistor is to limit the current in case you turn the knob way up on the pot. The pot is really sort of like a radio volume thing, only linear instead of quadratic I guess. Volume control is ok to use, but very sensitive compared to the more evenly graduated linear pot. More than you ever wanted to know, huh ? I know it was at first for me.. best, keep us up to date with everything you do, please. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 My liver must be plugged up worse than I thought as I got everything wired up right, double check it to make sure, and set the digital voltmeter to 2mA and got a reading of .000 So I unwrapped the wrist wires and taped the wires right to my wrist and still got .000 I tried everything, checked all the connections, swapped the black out for the red, still no mA reading. From the neg. post of the 6 volt battery, the wire goes to my right wrist, and from the pos. post the short jumper wire was secured to the black lead to the multimeter, [it has a new battery in it] and then the red lead was secured to the wire going to my left wrist. both ends were wrapped twice with a cottom cloth, dipped in water and squeezed out. The Back light lights up on the multimeter, and with checking the battery directly for volts it showed 12.5 v. Maybe it's me.. too plugged up to let current get through? :-} can't figure it out.. have you ever run into a problem like this? Wish I knew what I'm doing wrong... Thanks!! FP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 sorry..I didn't explain the positions that I got the volt readings, with the dial at the 1 o'clock position it say 200 V ..that's where I get the 12.5 reading at.. and after I tapped the wires directly to my wrist, I got a reading of 5.9 at the 10 o'clock position /at the V 20 setting, but still no readings at the 2mA setting. Any suggestions? Thanks!! FP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 No, actually pluggin up might increase your conductivity, (so don't worry few things. the volts seems to work in the meter but the amps readout is dead? it can happen, 1. fuse inside meter is blown (can happen if you read current across battery terminals instead of voltage.) dissamble meter (they come apart easily) replace fuse. It is meant to be replaced should this happen, buy a few of them in case... 2. meter not wired in series but across the leads wires. has to be in series. one wire to one lead goes to battery, one wire to other lead goes to electrode end. 3. meter may have 3 connections, and to read amps you need to unplug the red lead and place in the " amp " connector plug on meter. ?? bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 If using 12 volts you will have to stick with tap water 12 is high. using more cloth may not be enough. 6 volts would be better, using a lantern battery (under 10 bucks). not sure why you think 12 volts is needed, it is harsh and could sabotage your efforts by ruining your skin to where it will no longer tolerate ANY electricity... that has happened here. I put 6 volts as the high end of the sweet spot, due to its relative safety to skin. you need your skin to do this.. If you get the potentiometer then want to use 12 ok, but unless you can tame the current down to .3mA-.7mA, 12 may be simply out of range for the device to hit that current level. You can lower it as I've described, but not sure how low that will get it for you. Keep up good work, you are making quick progress, and don't be discouraged@!! bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Yip..that's what I done did alright, I tested between the 6 volt battery post....won't be doing that again!! Will get more fuses next trip into town. I was curious about the 12 volt because we have 12 volt solar power for back-up storage. so always look for things to not be dependent on needs from civilization. You're a very good instructor with all of this, BG, and serving mankind as you do, will not go unrewarded, if not in this life, certainly in the next step of your continuation. You are sincerely appreciated! Will continue with the basic design for now..though I did have the thought of sticking a cattle prod to my liver to taser the pathogens out....but if I done that I might end up with a chicken liver!! I've been reading the " Desideratum " that you have on file, and though the guy doesn't explain the machine he was using, it sounds quit strong. :-} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I did that many times. I thought a AAA battery would be ok, but it too blew the fuse...so live and learn. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 you main concern is doing it safely and tamely at first. No telling what will happen, so go slowly. Watch dieoffs. your system may be ill-equipped to deal with them, so keep them small by not using lots of power. You will feel it, so pay attention and reduce the power and the time till you get your feet. Every time you use it, some virus will die off. At first more will dieoff since they are thick like fish in a barrel. As time goes by, less will remain, and they will die off in smaller numbers.. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 You're absolutely right about the die-offs, Wheatgrass tablets is excellent supplement for a blood purifier, it also has other natural minerals that helps to keep the body on the alkalized for good electro conductivity too. ~Apart from doing the ozone IV's since last Sept. I'd been taking the Chinese herbal formula Xiao Chai Hu San, [which I made into the 00 sized capsules] and since I stopped doing the ozone home treatments a month ago. I wanted to get my blood test current, to see where I'm at now before starting with the zilling, I just got the blood test results yesterday... My AST is 66....ALT is 74....Alkaline Phos. is 133 [of course all of these were much higher before I did the ozone IV's 3 times a wk. for over 3 months] and ups some from my last Dec. blood test. [ Though the AST is a indicator to show how's the liver functioning, the numbers are also effected by other organs in the body, unlike the ALT which is just Primary to the Liver functions itself.] Personally, I believe that the ozone treatments that I was doing either wiped the HCV out or came very close to doing the job. My viral counts were up in the millions when I started it.. I need to get a current RNA test also. My concern now is to keep after it in a milder way than running out of veins with the ozone treatments, by doing this Godzilla treatments.. I'm still waiting on my liner Pot, and the reversible switch to come in to build my Godzilla with, I got one of those wide belts, the kind that you'd wear as a back support for lifting, and sewed some elastic straps onto it to hold the sponges in place in front/back of liver. That was a great read about the HCV that you just posted, but what's this about an " Auto-Godzillia " ? I can't find any plans on here to build an Auto-zillia... So how do I do that? P.S. ~ I've got a Tens machine that I've used a few times on my liver, front/back with the Tens stick on pads.. and I've got several packages of the pads.. [i like the idea of using the " Tens Machine Pads with an " Auto " ziller " .. because I'm tired of soooo much " focus " on fighting the disease & after a couple years of doing so... having something automatic would be such a Blessing!!!!] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the info. about using a 12 volt battery, > > > > > > > > > > > > � Don't think I'd be hooking more than myself up to it though, sorry I didn't explain my intentions more in the asking... > > > > > > > > > > > > �I was kind of thinking that I could hook myself up to it just before going to sleep at night and do like an 8 hour treatment over night. > > > > > > > > > > > > �After reading your reply, I gather that something would have to be figured out with the amount of amps? to do a longer treatment time like 8 hours?� [+ or - an hr.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > �Any suggestions there would be most appreciated.� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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