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Very interesting post. When I was diagnosed with Herpes 2, my doc put me on 800 mg of acyclovir, once daily. He said that if I continued to have outbreaks he would up it to twice a day and he made a big deal how I can NOT skip a day. He said that if I STILL had outbreaks, he'd set me up with valtrex, a more expensive and effective version of acyclovir.Shortly after that is when I discovered the microelectricity germkiller group, and I got very motivated to regularly douse the small of my back with 6V. It's been about 1 1/2 years now. I haven't addressed that area with my Godzilla for a long time. In fact, since the day I took my first pill of acyclovir, I have had no outbreaks or problems of any kind.I don't know whether this is due to the acyclovir regimen which I follow almost as rigidly as

my doctor would like, or due to the use of my Godzilla, colloidal silver, MMS1, and or MMS2, or some combination of these.I will relate that I do not use any of these alternative treatments with regularity, preferring to use as needed, rather than as an ongoing preventative of all pathogens. I would like my doc to test my blood again, to see how much evidence there is of an infection. I imagine that even if the last H2 virus organism has been killed, I will still show that I have antibodies, so I don't know what a blood test would really prove.Apparently, once I have been on acyclovir for 2 years, he will take me off of that and wait and watch to see what, if anything will happen next. Since I began treatment for HSV2, it has been a LOT like I don't have it at all. A big relief.From: baby_grand <no_reply >Subject: Re: Herpes 2, zillering open sores Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 4:17 PM

Hi, welcome, you are doing great with this so far and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

If you apply directly to a sore, and the sore is wet, it can allow a lot of current in, but I have not heard of any problems. Usually you can feel and will react. In my case I applied it that way for a long time and insisted on going on with it, which was stupid, so hours later I had some nasty spots. Check periodically for redness that is not the herpes,or pain. Yes, you can put the one electrode next to the sore and move them around it. You can touch red areas but if skin is broken down and wet, raw, etc, then avoid that. In a day or so that will close up and heal over anyway, so don't worry about it.

The other electrode goes on the spine where the nerve for the area is connected. That is where the herpes virus hides. Nerves carry electricity, afterall, that is their job. So you "connect" to the nerve, touching both the outbreak area, and the nerve center in the spine. Don't just put two electrodes on the sore and expect herpes to be gone forever, it will come back down the nerve later. You could of course, put them on each side of the sore to reduce the sore temporarily, heal up the skin, etc. But after that, you then need to connect to both ends of the nerve as I mentioned, so as to contact ALL the herpes inside of that particular nerve. If you do that, you should not see another eruption again at that spot. There could be other nerves with herpes inside them, and you go one by one, like pulling weeds..in fact, the analogy is perfect, 'get the root'.

The cool thing is that drugs do NOT get inside nerves very well, but electricity is tailor-made for nerves. Herpes is a nerve infection. These low levels of current should not hurt nerves, but they seem to utterly disable the virus! Muscle stimulators use a lot more voltage, but it's too brief to do any damage to the virus, so forget using them, they won't work.

Graphic language here is fine. We are mature folks, maybe the few on the Internet? :) Let's get healthy, then maybe we could have a delicate little tea party somewhere. For now, I worry that delicacy could harm, so let's dispense with it, till the last germ is gone.

bG

>

> Hello,

> I've just purchased a 6v battery and 6ft wire to make an apprentice godzilla to try and treat my genital herpes. I've been reading some of the posts from this group and am encouraged by the success stories!

> I've got a few questions, I'm hoping you can help. Is it safe to place an electrode directly onto

> a coldsore, or should it be placed to the side of it? I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but on a previous post I've read, I think it was suggested that putting an electrical current through broken skin is a bad idea.

> Also, is it only beneficial to treat herpes during an outbreak or is it worth trying to treat the area of where outbreak usually occurs whilst the virus is dormant?

> I'm going to do a bit more research and read up on some older posts from the group, but I'm really keen to give it a go and post my results.

>

> Thanks :)

>

> VJ

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Where exactly on the spine are you talking about as it is a very large area?

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Hi, welcome, you are doing great with this so far and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.If you apply directly to a sore, and the sore is wet, it can allow a lot of current in, but I have not heard of any problems. Usually you can feel and will react. In my case I applied it that way for a long time and insisted on going on with it, which was stupid, so hours later I had some nasty spots. Check periodically for redness that is not the herpes,or pain. Yes, you can put the one electrode next to the sore and move them around it. You can touch red areas but if skin is broken down and wet, raw, etc, then avoid that. In a day or so that will close up and heal over anyway, so don't worry about it. The other electrode goes on the spine where the nerve for the area is connected. That is where the herpes virus hides. Nerves carry electricity, afterall, that is their job. So you "connect" to the nerve, touching both the outbreak area, and the nerve center in the spine. Don't just put two electrodes on the sore and expect herpes to be gone forever, it will come back down the nerve later. You could of course, put them on each side of the sore to reduce the sore temporarily, heal up the skin, etc. But after that, you then need to connect to both ends of the nerve as I mentioned, so as to contact ALL the herpes inside of that particular nerve. If you do that, you should not see another eruption again at that spot. There could be other nerves with herpes inside them, and you go one by one, like pulling weeds..in fact, the analogy is perfect, 'get the root'.The cool thing is that drugs do NOT get inside nerves very well, but electricity is tailor-made for nerves. Herpes is a nerve infection. These low levels of current should not hurt nerves, but they seem to utterly disable the virus! Muscle stimulators use a lot more voltage, but it's too brief to do any damage to the virus, so forget using them, they won't work.Graphic language here is fine. We are mature folks, maybe the few on the Internet? :) Let's get healthy, then maybe we could have a delicate little tea party somewhere. For now, I worry that delicacy could harm, so let's dispense with it, till the last germ is gone.bG>> Hello,> I've just purchased a 6v battery and 6ft wire to make an apprentice godzilla to try and treat my genital herpes. I've been reading some of the posts from this group and am encouraged by the success stories!> I've got a few questions, I'm hoping you can help. Is it safe to place an electrode directly onto> a coldsore, or should it be placed to the side of it? I'm not sure if I've understood correctly, but on a previous post I've read, I think it was suggested that putting an electrical current through broken skin is a bad idea. > Also, is it only beneficial to treat herpes during an outbreak or is it worth trying to treat the area of where outbreak usually occurs whilst the virus is dormant?> I'm going to do a bit more research and read up on some older posts from the group, but I'm really keen to give it a go and post my results.> > Thanks :)> > VJ>

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bG,

I'm familiar with placing of electrodes for oral herpes, but where on

the spine do you put the second electrode for the genetal variety? Same as

for oral? Thanks.

Bob

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> Hi, welcome, you are doing great with this so far and I think you will be

> pleasantly surprised.

>

> If you apply directly to a sore, and the sore is wet, it can allow a lot

> of current in, but I have not heard of any problems. Usually you can feel

> and will react. In my case I applied it that way for a long time and

> insisted on going on with it, which was stupid, so hours later I had some

> nasty spots. Check periodically for redness that is not the herpes,or

> pain. Yes, you can put the one electrode next to the sore and move them

> around it. You can touch red areas but if skin is broken down and wet,

> raw, etc, then avoid that. In a day or so that will close up and heal

> over anyway, so don't worry about it.

>

> The other electrode goes on the spine where the nerve for the area is

> connected. That is where the herpes virus hides. Nerves carry

> electricity, afterall, that is their job. So you " connect " to the nerve,

> touching both the outbreak area, and the nerve center in the spine. Don't

> just put two electrodes on the sore and expect herpes to be gone forever,

> it will come back down the nerve later. You could of course, put them on

> each side of the sore to reduce the sore temporarily, heal up the skin,

> etc. But after that, you then need to connect to both ends of the nerve

> as I mentioned, so as to contact ALL the herpes inside of that particular

> nerve. If you do that, you should not see another eruption again at that

> spot. There could be other nerves with herpes inside them, and you go one

> by one, like pulling weeds..in fact, the analogy is perfect, 'get the

> root'.

>

> The cool thing is that drugs do NOT get inside nerves very well, but

> electricity is tailor-made for nerves. Herpes is a nerve infection.

> These low levels of current should not hurt nerves, but they seem to

> utterly disable the virus! Muscle stimulators use a lot more voltage, but

> it's too brief to do any damage to the virus, so forget using them, they

> won't work.

>

> Graphic language here is fine. We are mature folks, maybe the few on the

> Internet? :) Let's get healthy, then maybe we could have a delicate

> little tea party somewhere. For now, I worry that delicacy could harm, so

> let's dispense with it, till the last germ is gone.

>

> bG

>

>

>>

>> Hello,

>> I've just purchased a 6v battery and 6ft wire to make an apprentice

>> godzilla to try and treat my genital herpes. I've been reading some of

>> the posts from this group and am encouraged by the success stories!

>> I've got a few questions, I'm hoping you can help. Is it safe to place

>> an electrode directly onto

>> a coldsore, or should it be placed to the side of it? I'm not sure if

>> I've understood correctly, but on a previous post I've read, I think it

>> was suggested that putting an electrical current through broken skin is a

>> bad idea.

>> Also, is it only beneficial to treat herpes during an outbreak or is it

>> worth trying to treat the area of where outbreak usually occurs whilst

>> the virus is dormant?

>> I'm going to do a bit more research and read up on some older posts from

>> the group, but I'm really keen to give it a go and post my results.

>>

>> Thanks :)

>>

>> VJ

>>

>

>

>

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Thanks.

Bob

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> lower spine near tailbone is where the nerves insert, but check this with

> anatomy of nervous system charts to be sure. Just follow the lines in the

> chart, in other words. The nerve is just like a wire, electricity will

> flow along it, all you need is to find both ends.

>

> bG

>

>

>> >>

>> >> Hello,

>> >> I've just purchased a 6v battery and 6ft wire to make an apprentice

>> >> godzilla to try and treat my genital herpes. I've been reading some of

>> >> the posts from this group and am encouraged by the success stories!

>> >> I've got a few questions, I'm hoping you can help. Is it safe to

>> >> place

>> >> an electrode directly onto

>> >> a coldsore, or should it be placed to the side of it? I'm not sure if

>> >> I've understood correctly, but on a previous post I've read, I think

>> >> it

>> >> was suggested that putting an electrical current through broken skin

>> >> is a

>> >> bad idea.

>> >> Also, is it only beneficial to treat herpes during an outbreak or is

>> >> it

>> >> worth trying to treat the area of where outbreak usually occurs whilst

>> >> the virus is dormant?

>> >> I'm going to do a bit more research and read up on some older posts

>> >> from

>> >> the group, but I'm really keen to give it a go and post my results.

>> >>

>> >> Thanks :)

>> >>

>> >> VJ

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> > FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before

>> > asking

>> > questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are

>> > likely to be better.

>> >

>> > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.

>> > SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage

>> >

>> > At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not

>> > abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical

>> > treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely

>> > non-commercial.

>> > By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the

>> > moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages

>> > stemming

>> > from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8

>> > years

>> > of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side

>> > effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from

>> > overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs

>> > aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages

>> > than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.

>> > Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

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Hi List,

Here is the chart I think you're looking for to locate where on the spine to place the 'Zilla:

http://www.anatomical.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_9781587792069

It shows the spinal nerves and where they come out to connect to the skin. you are looking for the skin innervation as it connects to the spinal nerves. This chart is produced by the Anatomical Chart Co (Great research materials), I think it costs about $10.95 .

Namaste,

From: Bob Banever <bbanever@...> Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 6:08:40 PMSubject: Re: Re: Herpes 2, zillering open soresThanks.Bob Re: Herpes 2, zillering open sores> lower spine near tailbone is where the nerves insert, but check this

with > anatomy of nervous system charts to be sure. Just follow the lines in the > chart, in other words. The nerve is just like a wire, electricity will > flow along it, all you need is to find both ends.>> bG>> >> >>>> >> Hello,>> >> I've just purchased a 6v battery and 6ft wire to make an apprentice>> >> godzilla to try and treat my genital herpes. I've been reading some of>> >> the posts from this group and am encouraged by the success stories!>> >> I've got a few questions, I'm hoping you can help. Is it safe to >> >> place>> >> an electrode directly onto>> >> a coldsore, or should it be placed to the side of it? I'm not sure if>> >> I've understood correctly, but on a previous post I've read, I think >> >> it>> >> was suggested that putting an electrical current through broken skin >>

>> is a>> >> bad idea.>> >> Also, is it only beneficial to treat herpes during an outbreak or is >> >> it>> >> worth trying to treat the area of where outbreak usually occurs whilst>> >> the virus is dormant?>> >> I'm going to do a bit more research and read up on some older posts >> >> from>> >> the group, but I'm really keen to give it a go and post my results.>> >>>> >> Thanks :)>> >>>> >> VJ>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > ------------------------------------>> >>> > FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before >> > asking>> > questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers

are>> > likely to be better.>> >>> > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.>> > SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage>> >>> > At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not>> > abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical>> > treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely >> > non-commercial.>> > By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the>> > moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages >> > stemming>> > from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 >> > years>> > of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side>> > effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly

irriated skin from>> > overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs>> > aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages>> > than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.>> > Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

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