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It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical

usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each

type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will

be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of

each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be

listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent

chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric

current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be

described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be

discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included.

Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new

generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what

level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in

units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to

take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this

is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will

be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to

proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference

protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs

instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and

other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

>

> bG

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It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical

usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each

type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will

be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of

each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be

listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent

chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric

current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be

described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be

discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included.

Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new

generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what

level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in

units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to

take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this

is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will

be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to

proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference

protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs

instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and

other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

>

> bG

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This sounds terrific, bG !! And I also thank you so much for doing this and keeping this group going!Yes, I haven't posted much, though I did use a godzilla a couple times when my gums flared up, and it did help!I have it in mind to go over again all the newer developments and see if I can make a better, more improved device, but with a "non-technical" mind it takes alot for me to digest the instructions......and I am thinking that with this

organized system you are going to implement, that would make it a bit easier for those of us who are technically-challenged to navigate the site and find the appropriate information and instructions.Also, I like the idea of adding information about the use of silver and the different types.......Way cool.....Bravo......! We appreciate all your good work! Thanks again, KDFrom: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 4:31:52 PMSubject: Re: Protocol creation

It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

>

> bG

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This sounds terrific, bG !! And I also thank you so much for doing this and keeping this group going!Yes, I haven't posted much, though I did use a godzilla a couple times when my gums flared up, and it did help!I have it in mind to go over again all the newer developments and see if I can make a better, more improved device, but with a "non-technical" mind it takes alot for me to digest the instructions......and I am thinking that with this

organized system you are going to implement, that would make it a bit easier for those of us who are technically-challenged to navigate the site and find the appropriate information and instructions.Also, I like the idea of adding information about the use of silver and the different types.......Way cool.....Bravo......! We appreciate all your good work! Thanks again, KDFrom: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 4:31:52 PMSubject: Re: Protocol creation

It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

>

> bG

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you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what

happened with them.

My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her

avoid...see what I mean?

bg

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take

> >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but

a

> >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not

> >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver

> >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

Beck

> >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> >nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

> >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

> >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what

happened with them.

My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her

avoid...see what I mean?

bg

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take

> >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but

a

> >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not

> >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver

> >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

Beck

> >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> >nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

> >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

> >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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OK - Well as I have not been to a dentist in quite a while and have just been coasting along so to speak, so I do not know exactly the situation of my gum problem.The last time I had consultations with a well known and respected (supposedly) teaching clinic, they wanted to take out all my upper teeth over 6 months-year, give me temporary dentures to the tune of $1,000 or so, and then get a permanent upper denture. They didn't even want to treat my gum disease! So I ran out and haven't gone back and have been avoiding any other dental opinions. I might try a consult with a biological dentist one of these days.I have been going on how the mouth feels, and a couple of times I had a swollen area that I used the godzilla on and after about 2x/day

for 2 days, the swelling went down and felt better.

I am sorry I don't have more specific details. Indeed, I suppose the swelling and discomfort may have also been irritation and the godzilla may have soothed it, if not healed any infection, but I do know I felt better. Other than that, I have been using an ionic toothbrush (Dr. Tung's) that is supposed to repel plaque, and so I think/hope I am at least maintaining status quo with my remaining teeth. I will keep you posted on any further research.From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 6:26:53 PMSubject:

Re: Protocol creation

you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what happened with them.

My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her avoid...see what I mean?

bg

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take

> >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a

> >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not

> >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver

> >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck

> >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just

> >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> >nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

> >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

> >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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OK - Well as I have not been to a dentist in quite a while and have just been coasting along so to speak, so I do not know exactly the situation of my gum problem.The last time I had consultations with a well known and respected (supposedly) teaching clinic, they wanted to take out all my upper teeth over 6 months-year, give me temporary dentures to the tune of $1,000 or so, and then get a permanent upper denture. They didn't even want to treat my gum disease! So I ran out and haven't gone back and have been avoiding any other dental opinions. I might try a consult with a biological dentist one of these days.I have been going on how the mouth feels, and a couple of times I had a swollen area that I used the godzilla on and after about 2x/day

for 2 days, the swelling went down and felt better.

I am sorry I don't have more specific details. Indeed, I suppose the swelling and discomfort may have also been irritation and the godzilla may have soothed it, if not healed any infection, but I do know I felt better. Other than that, I have been using an ionic toothbrush (Dr. Tung's) that is supposed to repel plaque, and so I think/hope I am at least maintaining status quo with my remaining teeth. I will keep you posted on any further research.From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 6:26:53 PMSubject:

Re: Protocol creation

you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what happened with them.

My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her avoid...see what I mean?

bg

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take

> >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a

> >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not

> >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver

> >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck

> >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just

> >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> >nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

> >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

> >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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Boy, if this went into even a freebie web site, you'd get a LOT more exposure than from the . I am on over 30 , but have never searched for any of them in itself. All mine have come from others recommending to me. So who knows how many people miss your group because they don't search , instead they search the web.

If you were to put up a web site with all these things you are talking about, you'd really have something that I think would spread fast. We could all mention it in other lists after you get it up, even though many groups don't want other groups to be mentioned--no one says anything about web sites being mentioned.

And as was stated, the key words you'd have for your site would bring in a lot of visitors who otherwise miss finding you (and a possible cure to their problems) on .

It may be a lot for you to set up this info in a web site, but I think it would be very much worth it for the world. And I for one would pay a membership fee to get all the new 'upgrades' to Godzilla and the Beck devices. You could make it very reasonable and still be able to pay someone, perhaps, to help you with maintaining the site, or just for your enormous efforts that you've put into these groups for all these years. This information is valuable, and I've paid money for far less worthwhile info!

Samala,

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Boy, if this went into even a freebie web site, you'd get a LOT more exposure than from the . I am on over 30 , but have never searched for any of them in itself. All mine have come from others recommending to me. So who knows how many people miss your group because they don't search , instead they search the web.

If you were to put up a web site with all these things you are talking about, you'd really have something that I think would spread fast. We could all mention it in other lists after you get it up, even though many groups don't want other groups to be mentioned--no one says anything about web sites being mentioned.

And as was stated, the key words you'd have for your site would bring in a lot of visitors who otherwise miss finding you (and a possible cure to their problems) on .

It may be a lot for you to set up this info in a web site, but I think it would be very much worth it for the world. And I for one would pay a membership fee to get all the new 'upgrades' to Godzilla and the Beck devices. You could make it very reasonable and still be able to pay someone, perhaps, to help you with maintaining the site, or just for your enormous efforts that you've put into these groups for all these years. This information is valuable, and I've paid money for far less worthwhile info!

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Perfect, this is exactly what we need. :) well done. I will post and my friend

can see it, too.

There are reports of plaque gone, decay halted, pain gone and some gums saved

too. This report adds more weight. In general using this 20 minutes on oral

area, either with electrodes inside the mouth along gumline, or just sponges

over both cheeks, tends to remove plaque kills bacteria, we think, and should

aid the gums preventing huge losses for you.

bG

> > >

> > > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

> >take

> >

> > >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but

> >a

> >

> > >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

> >Not

> >

> > >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> > >

> > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

> >Silver

> >

> > >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

> >Beck

> >

> > >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> >

> > >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> > >nerves for herpes, etc.

> > >

> > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time

off

> > >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> > >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It

will

> > >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

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Perfect, this is exactly what we need. :) well done. I will post and my friend

can see it, too.

There are reports of plaque gone, decay halted, pain gone and some gums saved

too. This report adds more weight. In general using this 20 minutes on oral

area, either with electrodes inside the mouth along gumline, or just sponges

over both cheeks, tends to remove plaque kills bacteria, we think, and should

aid the gums preventing huge losses for you.

bG

> > >

> > > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

> >take

> >

> > >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but

> >a

> >

> > >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

> >Not

> >

> > >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> > >

> > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

> >Silver

> >

> > >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

> >Beck

> >

> > >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> >

> > >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> > >nerves for herpes, etc.

> > >

> > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time

off

> > >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> > >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It

will

> > >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

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One person I know avoided surgery on gums using it 20 minutes a week. Seems

very light to me, but it did appear to work and her surgery was cancelled after

they examined her.

bG

> > > >

> > > > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates

to

> > >take

> > >

> > > >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but

> > >a

> > >

> > > >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of

infection.

> > >Not

> > >

> > > >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

> > >Silver

> > >

> > > >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz

> > >Beck

> > >

> > > >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> > >

> > > >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other

spots,

> > > >nerves for herpes, etc.

> > > >

> > > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time

off

> > > >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make

to

> > > >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It

will

> > > >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > >

> >

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One person I know avoided surgery on gums using it 20 minutes a week. Seems

very light to me, but it did appear to work and her surgery was cancelled after

they examined her.

bG

> > > >

> > > > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates

to

> > >take

> > >

> > > >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but

> > >a

> > >

> > > >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of

infection.

> > >Not

> > >

> > > >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> > > >

> > > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

> > >Silver

> > >

> > > >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz

> > >Beck

> > >

> > > >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> > >

> > > >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other

spots,

> > > >nerves for herpes, etc.

> > > >

> > > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time

off

> > > >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make

to

> > > >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It

will

> > > >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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This is great stuff!!! It's a good idea to create a website, will help many in need of help. Count me in as a contributing member.Joe PSent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2011, at 4:31 PM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

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This is great stuff!!! It's a good idea to create a website, will help many in need of help. Count me in as a contributing member.Joe PSent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2011, at 4:31 PM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

It would include these features:

1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.

2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.

4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.

5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.

There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

bG

>

> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.

>

> The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

>

> This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

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BG,

I am sssoooo excited about this, specially when you said it could be built by a

six year old, ahem, i am an oldy but not inclined to building anything. Just so

thankful to you for the step by step picture of the basic godzilla was able to

make and use on my sores.

All the best to you.

> ________________________________

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>

> Sent: Tue, May 10, 2011 4:31:52 PM

> Subject: Re: Protocol creation

>

>

> It would include these features:

>

> 1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of

typical

> usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each

> type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will

> be added, just what will do the trick.

>

> 2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of

> each step simple enough for a 6 year old.

>

> 3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be

> listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent

> chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric

> current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be

> described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be

> discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included.

> Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new

> generation silver.

>

> 4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what

> level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified

in

> units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to

> take it.

>

> 5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if

this

> is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.

>

> 6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc

will

> be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to

> proceed and what to watch out for.

>

> There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference

> protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.

>

> bG

>

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take

> >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but

a

> >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not

> >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver

> >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

Beck

> >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> >nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

> >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will

> >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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BG,

I had gum disease, and dentist was referring me to another colleague to " fix " my

gums.

I made colloidal silver/EIS. After brushing, flossing, and mouth wash gargle. I

took an ounce of CS/EIS and soaked the gum for around ten to 15 minutes, every

single night. Then i drank a new one ounce of CS making it sit under the tongue

before swallowing. In less than two weeks, the gum did not hurt, swelling

subsided. Maybe your friend want to try this.

Also i don't use toothpaste anymore, i use peppermint essential oil, 2 drops on

toothbrush and 2 drops as gargle.

>

> you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what

happened with them.

>

> My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her

avoid...see what I mean?

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> bg

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BG,

I had gum disease, and dentist was referring me to another colleague to " fix " my

gums.

I made colloidal silver/EIS. After brushing, flossing, and mouth wash gargle. I

took an ounce of CS/EIS and soaked the gum for around ten to 15 minutes, every

single night. Then i drank a new one ounce of CS making it sit under the tongue

before swallowing. In less than two weeks, the gum did not hurt, swelling

subsided. Maybe your friend want to try this.

Also i don't use toothpaste anymore, i use peppermint essential oil, 2 drops on

toothbrush and 2 drops as gargle.

>

> you are welcome but only if you write more about your gums and exactly what

happened with them.

>

> My friend has gum disease and many painful surgeries you could have helped her

avoid...see what I mean?

>

> bg

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You are welcome,

Do these sores still appear at same places from time to time, or new places, or

gone? We REALLY need to know this, please

bG

> > >

> > > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take

> > >into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure

but a

> > >research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection.

Not

> > >all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> > >

> > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver

> > >nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz

Beck

> > >devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of

just

> > >electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots,

> > >nerves for herpes, etc.

> > >

> > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time

off

> > >work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to

> > >apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It

will

> > >specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

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That is a great idea, whereas I have Hep C and would love to know exactly what to do and how to do it. Whereas there is not one protocol that can be targeted for Hep that I have found out there.I thing people need to be told how and when to do something in their treatment plan. At least it helps me feel like I am not doing thing randomly. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of engineer188@...Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 06:34 Subject: Re: Re: Protocol creation This is great stuff!!! It's a good idea to create a website, will help many in need of help. Count me in as a contributing member. Joe PSent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2011, at 4:31 PM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote: It would include these features:1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.bG>> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.> > bG>

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That is a great idea, whereas I have Hep C and would love to know exactly what to do and how to do it. Whereas there is not one protocol that can be targeted for Hep that I have found out there.I thing people need to be told how and when to do something in their treatment plan. At least it helps me feel like I am not doing thing randomly. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of engineer188@...Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 06:34 Subject: Re: Re: Protocol creation This is great stuff!!! It's a good idea to create a website, will help many in need of help. Count me in as a contributing member. Joe PSent from my iPhoneOn May 10, 2011, at 4:31 PM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote: It would include these features:1. specific sections for local and systemic infections, with examples of typical usage, like for sinuses, teeth, joints, malaria, HIV, Hep-c, Lyme's etc. Each type of use will need certain devices and things to do it. Nothing extra will be added, just what will do the trick.2. all sections would tell you how to make suitable devices, showing photos of each step simple enough for a 6 year old.3. if you need to get silver for a condition then the exact type would be listed, since there are now several choices, one of which has a divergent chemistry. silver is needed for internal things such as lungs, where electric current cannot reach. In lungs a nebulizer is needed and that will be described. Homemade silvers vs the new silver sol nano-silver will be discussed. Warnings about crudely made or excessive doses will be included. Some homemade silver is ok for some things, other things will require the new generation silver.4. devices, especially for serious things, will have meters so you know what level of power to use, for how long, and how often. Silver will be specified in units per body weight just like they do with medical dosages, and how often to take it.5. estimates of effectiveness, based on our files will be given, saying if this is tested, untested, known-good, known-failed, or experimental.6. contra-indications such as pacemakers, various side effects if any, etc will be listed if known. If not, then warnings will be included to tell you how to proceed and what to watch out for.There may be more, but this is a good start to put together a real reference protocol that we can maintain and update as more is learned.bG>> I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.> > bG>

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Have you read our files? there are a lot of stories there about our

experiments. The people who reported all stopped reporting, I could not get to

do enough to find the method to deal with Hep-c. I don't have it myself.

Anything we develop must be tested on the virus in people and if they just

disappear like that I can't get anything done. So as of now we are about where

we were 5-7 years ago on hep-c.

We could move forward, I have new insight but cannot spend time writing and

expounding, unless it is going to be tested.

bG

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but

a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not

all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs

instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and

other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply

current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify

types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

> >

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Have you read our files? there are a lot of stories there about our

experiments. The people who reported all stopped reporting, I could not get to

do enough to find the method to deal with Hep-c. I don't have it myself.

Anything we develop must be tested on the virus in people and if they just

disappear like that I can't get anything done. So as of now we are about where

we were 5-7 years ago on hep-c.

We could move forward, I have new insight but cannot spend time writing and

expounding, unless it is going to be tested.

bG

> >

> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to

take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but

a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not

all of it would be used to deal with everything.

> >

> > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in

Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4

hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs

instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and

other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.

> >

> > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off

work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply

current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify

types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.

> >

> > bG

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Well of course I am willing to be your test subject. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of baby_grandSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 13:37 Subject: Re: Protocol creation Have you read our files? there are a lot of stories there about our experiments. The people who reported all stopped reporting, I could not get to do enough to find the method to deal with Hep-c. I don't have it myself. Anything we develop must be tested on the virus in people and if they just disappear like that I can't get anything done. So as of now we are about where we were 5-7 years ago on hep-c.We could move forward, I have new insight but cannot spend time writing and expounding, unless it is going to be tested.bG> >> > I have in mind some sort of protocol similar to Beck's but with updates to take into account what we now know. It would not be announced as a real cure but a research tool. It would have to have branches for each type of infection. Not all of it would be used to deal with everything.> > > > The reasons for this are basically to do with the latest developments in Silver nanoparticles, DC current studies on viral load reduction vs the AC 4 hertz Beck devices, and electrode placements to deal with localized germs instead of just electrifying the bloodstream and ignoring germs in mucosa, and other spots, nerves for herpes, etc.> > > > This will take shape slowly over the next few months if I have the time off work, or more slowly if not. It should include a body suit you can make to apply current to lymph nodes all over the body at one time for HIV. It will specify types and doses of silver, nothing left to chance.> > > > bG> >>

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