Re: Electric groups pretty dead these days

[Guest guest]

I have personally found this very useful and very unpopular as well. Like a lot

of things, the good stuff either costs you money or work.

bG

>

> The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its sibling,

2 are almost completely idle. The messages almost all

appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not electricity vs germs. I am

thinking of halting my groups since the public either already knows, or it's

been invalidated, or just a fad in the first place.

>

> bG

>

[Guest guest]

I have personally found this very useful and very unpopular as well. Like a lot

of things, the good stuff either costs you money or work.

bG

>

> The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its sibling,

2 are almost completely idle. The messages almost all

appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not electricity vs germs. I am

thinking of halting my groups since the public either already knows, or it's

been invalidated, or just a fad in the first place.

>

> bG

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you don't shut down the group.  I am running pretty steady now and my system seem to work quite well.  BUT, I always appreciate learning new things when and as they come up.  Also, I appreciate having the forum to connect to other folks should an issue arise where I need a little extra assistance.

 

Jaxi

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:36 AM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

I have personally found this very useful and very unpopular as well.  Like a lot of things, the good stuff either costs you money or work.  

bG

>> The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its sibling, 2 are almost completely idle.  The messages almost all appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not electricity vs germs.  I am thinking of halting my groups since the public either already knows, or it's been invalidated, or just a fad in the first place.

>> bG>------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered.  Our recorded answers are likely to be better.

HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS  in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners.  We are completely non-commercial.  By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information.  Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section.  No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse.  But please use the information at your own risk.  Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.

Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

[Guest guest]

I hope you don't shut down the group.  I am running pretty steady now and my system seem to work quite well.  BUT, I always appreciate learning new things when and as they come up.  Also, I appreciate having the forum to connect to other folks should an issue arise where I need a little extra assistance.

 

Jaxi

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:36 AM, baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

I have personally found this very useful and very unpopular as well.  Like a lot of things, the good stuff either costs you money or work.  

bG

>> The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its sibling, 2 are almost completely idle.  The messages almost all appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not electricity vs germs.  I am thinking of halting my groups since the public either already knows, or it's been invalidated, or just a fad in the first place.

>> bG>------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered.  Our recorded answers are likely to be better.

HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS  in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners.  We are completely non-commercial.  By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information.  Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section.  No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse.  But please use the information at your own risk.  Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.

Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

[Guest guest]

Not sure, might not eradicate it, but possibly make some new form that generates

more research activity. tend to hide a lot of good stuff, whereas

a website could be more available. Also, the name is too hard.

bG

> > >

> > > The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its

> > sibling, 2 are almost completely idle. The

> > messages almost all appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not

> > electricity vs germs. I am thinking of halting my groups since the public

> > either already knows, or it's been invalidated, or just a fad in the first

> > place.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking

> > questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely

> > to be better.

> >

> > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.

> > SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage

> >

> > At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not

> > abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical

> > treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial.

> > By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the

> > moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming

> > from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of

> > people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects

> > have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But

> > please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA

> > approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our

> > designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.

> > Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

[Guest guest]

Not sure, might not eradicate it, but possibly make some new form that generates

more research activity. tend to hide a lot of good stuff, whereas

a website could be more available. Also, the name is too hard.

bG

> > >

> > > The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its

> > sibling, 2 are almost completely idle. The

> > messages almost all appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not

> > electricity vs germs. I am thinking of halting my groups since the public

> > either already knows, or it's been invalidated, or just a fad in the first

> > place.

> > >

> > > bG

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking

> > questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely

> > to be better.

> >

> > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage.

> > SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage

> >

> > At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not

> > abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical

> > treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial.

> > By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the

> > moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming

> > from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of

> > people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects

> > have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But

> > please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA

> > approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our

> > designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA.

> > Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs)

[Guest guest]

Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written, and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them. Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick and hardly have need of them.

I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn if you took the groups down.

I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I'd still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they NEED to know to stay healthy.

You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you have helped.

Thank you bG.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written, and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them. Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick and hardly have need of them.

I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn if you took the groups down.

I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I'd still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they NEED to know to stay healthy.

You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you have helped.

Thank you bG.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

ok, ok it's back on.

bG

>

> Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written,

> and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've

> built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them.

> Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they

> are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine

> for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick

> and hardly have need of them.

>

> I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn

> if you took the groups down.

>

> I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel

> rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other

> hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

>

> Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value

> your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've

> sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I

> d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they

> NEED to know to stay healthy.

>

> You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do

> wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

>

> Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you

> have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you

> have helped.

>

> Thank you bG.

>

> Samala,

>

>

[Guest guest]

ok, ok it's back on.

bG

>

> Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written,

> and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've

> built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them.

> Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they

> are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine

> for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick

> and hardly have need of them.

>

> I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn

> if you took the groups down.

>

> I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel

> rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other

> hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

>

> Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value

> your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've

> sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I

> d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they

> NEED to know to stay healthy.

>

> You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do

> wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

>

> Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you

> have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you

> have helped.

>

> Thank you bG.

>

> Samala,

>

>

[Guest guest]

bG,

I hope you don't shut down this forum. I second what wrote. Right now I'm constructing my metered godzilla and before I start using it I have a few more questions:

I finally got my 100k Ohm Linear-Taper potentiometer. Not sure exactly what it does. Someone had posted an article on their function but I found it a bit difficult to understand. More important, where exactly do you put the potentiometer on the metered godzilla? Do you need a soldering gun?

Can you use any type water to wet the sponges or must you use distilled/purified water?

Finally, this may seem like a dumb question but can you leave the wires in between the sponges when you put them in the water?

Thank you

May 9, 2011 11:35:27 AM, wrote:

The Beck'nstuff, Beck Blood electrifictaion, and this group and its sibling, 2 are almost completely idle. The messages almost all appear off-topic from herbs to Serbs, and not electricity vs germs. I am thinking of halting my groups since the public either already knows, or it's been invalidated, or just a fad in the first place.bG

[Guest guest]

BG,

Amen.

Ray

From:

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:50 PM

Subject: Re: Electric groups pretty dead these days

Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written, and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them. Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick and hardly have need of them.

I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn if you took the groups down.

I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I'd still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they NEED to know to stay healthy.

You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you have helped.

Thank you bG.

Samala,

[Guest guest]

Samala

-------Original Message-------

ok, ok it's back on.

bG

[Guest guest]

Yippee! (from quiet listmember)

Thanks, bG.

> ok, ok it's back on.

> bG

>

>

> >

> > Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is

written,

> > and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to.

I've

> > built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone

about them.

> > Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do,

or they

> > are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I

HAVE mine

> > for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are

not sick

> > and hardly have need of them.

> >

> > I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to

learn

> > if you took the groups down.

[Guest guest]

BRAVO!!!

Re: Electric groups pretty dead these days

ok, ok it's back on.

bG

>

> Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written,

> and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've

> built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them.

> Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they

> are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine

> for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick

> and hardly have need of them.

>

> I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn

> if you took the groups down.

>

> I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel

> rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other

> hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

>

> Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value

> your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've

> sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I

> d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they

> NEED to know to stay healthy.

>

> You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do

> wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

>

> Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you

> have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you

> have helped.

>

> Thank you bG.

>

> Samala,

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK Vatto, here's the way it works. Just because my name doesn't show in your email queue, doesn't mean I haven't been reading others posts or looking through back messages. When I post, I usually thank people in advance for taking the time to read it, so 'thanks' for a response goes without saying. I feel no need to clutter other peoples inboxes.

I also belong to another health list where the owner goes absolutely skrewee when people post OT. So I usually don't do that anywhere.

As for sharing this with others, probably not. Unless I know they absolutely need it. With people being litigious sphincter busybodies with their fingers on the 911 button, I figure there's know reason for anyone to know anything I do.

If you have to shut it down, please leave the information somewhere that it can be mined.

Thanks. Jim

From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:41:27 PMSubject: Re: Electric groups pretty dead these days

ok, ok it's back on.bG>> Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written,> and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've> built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them.> Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they> are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine> for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick> and hardly have need of them.> > I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn> if you took the groups down. >

> I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel> rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other> hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.> > Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value> your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've> sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I> d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they> NEED to know to stay healthy. > > You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do> wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I> suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there> will always be the new ones coming along for the first time. > > Whatever you

decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you> have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you> have helped.> > Thank you bG.> > Samala,> >

[Guest guest]

I have not needed the devices. Like , I have the supplies ready should I

need them, but have not needed them yet.

Would a blog work for this group? I read lots of blogs via my google reader

using RSS feed, and it's quite convenient. Since it would be more public, you

would definitely need moderator approval for all posts, just so you could weed

out the non-related comments and spam.

[Guest guest]

thanks, the format would not change the reporting much. Good you have your

device. That is itself a report, thanks. It helps to know how many people

build these versus just read about it.

bG

>

> I have not needed the devices. Like , I have the supplies ready should I

need them, but have not needed them yet.

>

> Would a blog work for this group? I read lots of blogs via my google reader

using RSS feed, and it's quite convenient. Since it would be more public, you

would definitely need moderator approval for all posts, just so you could weed

out the non-related comments and spam.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for the group and the information and everything. I

read the posts and have for a long time and print out the information

and appreciate the information. It is all a wonderful resource. My

health has not allowed me to proceed very well with implementation. I

would like to be able to make better use of it but am not yet quite

capable of making full use of much of it. Have had challenging health

issues (seizures, stroke, bulging disks, brain tumour) and I am slowly

recovering and doing everything I can to keep my job.)

Thanks again, I really hope you will continue. It is a really

wonderful resource. I agree with the others who have responded.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

I do not comment much, but certainly read here every day! I

used the Godzilla. I built it in the middle of the night when I couldn’t

sleep due to a swollen lymph gland. Another time it spread & I ended up

with cellulitis & in the hospital. I was very ill. (meaning they told my

family to come see me as I might not survive because the infection was heading

down to my heart & up to my brain).This time I caught it soon enough with

the Godzilla. I have also successfully used it with an infection in my finger!

Another time I successfully got rid of a sinus infection. I also used a neti

pot with sea salt & other natural stuff for my immune system, but the Godzilla

is what got it in the end. I did not go to the Dr. for any of them as they

weren’t much help.

Thanks so much for this group.

Kerri ( I am only 45 years old and I am a mom to 11 and

grandma too one. I want to be around a lot longer!)

[Guest guest]

Good idea Bob. A website might find many more searchers, because you can use many key words that people might search for and find the site. I am thinking of words like infection, pain, strains and sprains, arthritis, herpes simplex, and many others that we have reports of successful usage.

There are many good, free websites that are attractive and easy to set up. Just google "free websites" or "hosts". They also offer multiple pages where you can list reported cases by ailment, or classification. Or you can even post the link to the file and photo folders on this group if you decide to keep it active. You can explain that they would need to join the group to access the folders, but its free.

Also, Blogs are another way to get the message out. And probably some of our members use social networking, and they could mention the groups purpose and address for anyone interested in learning more. They might even describe how they used the devices to remedy some health problem, which should peak their curiosity.

Regards,

Dick

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kerri, I am filing this report so others will get the benefits of your

experience, you are helping mankind in many parts of the world, you cannot even

imagine how far it goes out.

bG

>

> I do not comment much, but certainly read here every day! I used the

> Godzilla. I built it in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep due to

> a swollen lymph gland. Another time it spread & I ended up with cellulitis &

> in the hospital. I was very ill. (meaning they told my family to come see me

> as I might not survive because the infection was heading down to my heart &

> up to my brain).This time I caught it soon enough with the Godzilla. I

> have also successfully used it with an infection in my finger! Another time

> I successfully got rid of a sinus infection. I also used a neti pot with sea

> salt & other natural stuff for my immune system, but the Godzilla is what

> got it in the end. I did not go to the Dr. for any of them as they weren't

> much help.

>

>

>

> Thanks so much for this group.

>

>

>

> Kerri ( I am only 45 years old and I am a mom to 11 and grandma too one. I

> want to be around a lot longer!)

>

[Guest guest]

whoaaaa, thank goodness. I'm a newbie and find it very interesting!!!

Thanks, thanks, thanks,

> >

> > Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is written,

> > and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've

> > built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about them.

> > Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or they

> > are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE mine

> > for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not sick

> > and hardly have need of them.

> >

> > I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn

> > if you took the groups down.

> >

> > I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel

> > rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other

> > hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

> >

> > Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who value

> > your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've

> > sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least I

> > d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what they

> > NEED to know to stay healthy.

> >

> > You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do

> > wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> > suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> > will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

> >

> > Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what you

> > have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you

> > have helped.

> >

> > Thank you bG.

> >

> > Samala,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, thank goodness! I only just joined this group too and think it is of

tremendous value.

bG at the end of this month I am going to start using the Beck Protocol on a

friend who is HIV positive. The person in question will be getting regular blood

tests whose results I will share with this group (I will fill in all the

relevant details based on your template, etc).

I appreciate your frustration when people give up too soon and want to let

everyone know I am dedicated to following through on this as I think we are onto

something with great potential.

I intend to introduce two herbal remedies into the protocol (not immediately, as

I want to evaluate the efficacy of the Beck Protocol on its own first):

a) Olive Leaf Extract

Sutherlandia Frutescens

Both of these have shown promising anti-viral properties and could help in

reducing the amount of virus in the gut, as they are ingested. I am also

interested in the role of Colloidal for the same reason.

Finally, I also have a Rife machine and a Hulda e zapper which I may use in

combination later on in the trial, depending on results obtained. I wonder if

using these machines by placing the electrodes across the gut could be of value.

Best wishes,

Simon.

> > >

> > > Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is

written,

> > > and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to. I've

> > > built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about

them.

> > > Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or

they

> > > are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE

mine

> > > for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not

sick

> > > and hardly have need of them.

> > >

> > > I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to learn

> > > if you took the groups down.

> > >

> > > I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would feel

> > > rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the other

> > > hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

> > >

> > > Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who

value

> > > your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know I've

> > > sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at least

I

> > > d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what

they

> > > NEED to know to stay healthy.

> > >

> > > You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I do

> > > wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> > > suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> > > will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

> > >

> > > Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what

you

> > > have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people you

> > > have helped.

> > >

> > > Thank you bG.

> > >

> > > Samala,

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good to know. Beck's protocol will not remove it, but could help somewhat. IF

it's reached AIDS, it could save life. The latest silver sol and use of DC

current type godzilla blood electrifier would be things to do that might help

the Beck Protocol reducing viral load and increasing Cd4+ cells.

PLEASE read our menu/files section all results, hiv, where there are a dozen or

so reports. Only the last one is hopeful, and it used the DC godzilla device on

bloodstream. The rest used the 4 hertz Beck electrifiers and it did not do the

trick. I think Beck tamed it down too much to make it " ultra-safe " , whereas

originally he used DC. The viral load tests might show good results but CD4 is

everything. Some of Beck's supporters who think Beck would have been adamant

about not changing the protocol in light of later data, will sometimes insist

" the numbers are meaningless " . They don't realize the protocol is about the

numbers and the virus, not about a magical cure. Those numbers are very real,

ignore at your peril, I'm sure you must know that.

The hep-c section shows one justerl is the name, and he used Beck's device an

hour a day and could not get the count below 2.2 million. He changed to the

godzilla and in 15 weeks, testing every 3 weeks it dropped 99 percent, without a

single test showing any rises. Then he quit and in 3 weeks it went up to .8

million again.

One of the Beck forums has a member " nixatnight " who did Beck protocol exactly,

reporting and testing over months. He was encouraged at first, then gave up as

the results did not seem to justify the effort. He even put up a website to

track it.

I think the Beck Protocol is good beginning for research but HIV has ways to

defeat it. The newer silver sol did increase body weight and also T cell counts

in 7 out of 7 tested. It's all we really have.

Beck people are very black and white, they either use it as is or not at all. I

think that is a mistake since so much about HIV has been learned after Beck

passed on. He certainly would have modified it had he lived.

In any event, reports will help good or bad, and I'm willing as always to help

with whatever experiences or insights I can.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Oh MAN, I hope you don't shut them down. I read everything that is

written,

> > > > and delete the spam. I don't post because I don't have a reason to.

I've

> > > > built the big godzillas, the small godzillas and I tell everyone about

them.

> > > > Of course, most simply don't believe they work as good as they do, or

they

> > > > are too lazy to build one of their own. Too bad for them. But I HAVE

mine

> > > > for our family, always sitting at the ready. It's just that we are not

sick

> > > > and hardly have need of them.

> > > >

> > > > I feel bad for the few people that would be interested and unable to

learn

> > > > if you took the groups down.

> > > >

> > > > I understand your purpose was/is to inform people and that you would

feel

> > > > rather neglected (at least your info) if no one is posting. On the

other

> > > > hand, it would be a terrible loss if this info went away.

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps you could upload to a freebie web site so that those of us who

value

> > > > your work would at least have a place to point new people to. I know

I've

> > > > sent a number of people to your germkiller list, at least, and so at

least I

> > > > d still be able to send them to a web site where they could learn what

they

> > > > NEED to know to stay healthy.

> > > >

> > > > You have done some remarkable work and made some remarkable devices. I

do

> > > > wish there was a way to 'get it out there and get people interested'. I

> > > > suppose the people that were meant to learn already found you, but there

> > > > will always be the new ones coming along for the first time.

> > > >

> > > > Whatever you decide know that there are MANY people who appreciate what

you

> > > > have done, what you have freely offered the world, and how many people

you

> > > > have helped.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you bG.

> > > >

> > > > Samala,

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>