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At 01:08 PM 12/11/2001 EST, you wrote:

>Didnt someone mention rubbing evening primrose oil inthe ears for

infections.

>I thought I read that here that this treatment worked well.

>

>Marvis

>

I'd say its pretty rare for an unvaxed, breastfed baby to get an ear

infection.

I, again, encourage her to look up symptoms she can figure out in

homeopathy book or see a homeopath if he is very ill

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My son just had what I think was an ear infection - I only realised it the

day after - and it was over.

He is 2 years old, so he could tell me what was sore, he kept saying his ear

was sore. The next morning, all around inside his ear - was orangy wax, I

asked if his ear was still sore and he said no. SO perhaps we were just

lucky on that - its the first time its happened, and its over before I could

start to worry.

Chelly

San Diego, CA

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Hi, Chelly!

It sounds like your son's ear perforated, thus the orangy wax. You should take

him to the ear, nose and throat doctor to make sure that the perforation has

healed. Also, you want to make sure that his hearing hasn't been compromised at

all. This just happened to my daughter. So far, everything is healing fine,

but that is not always the way it goes. Better to be on the safe side.

Re: Ear Infection

My son just had what I think was an ear infection - I only realised it the

day after - and it was over.

He is 2 years old, so he could tell me what was sore, he kept saying his ear

was sore. The next morning, all around inside his ear - was orangy wax, I

asked if his ear was still sore and he said no. SO perhaps we were just

lucky on that - its the first time its happened, and its over before I could

start to worry.

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

WWW.YOURAVON.COM/CMERCER passcode: MIKCHER

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About 5 months after I stopped bf my daughter she got and ear

infections. She was almost 2 years old at the time. We were

outta town and she had a horrible cough with it. When we got

back my mom said that I should really take her somewhere so

when I did, I found out she had a full blown ear infection. The

Doc suggested amox but I declined and said I'd bring her back if

it wasn't getting any better. That next day I took her to my Chiro

and he looked into her ears and then adjusted her neck. A week

later the cough was gone and I took her back to the Chrio to

check her ears and they both had an infection, he also adjusted

her neck. At that time I was only giving her echinachea and

bifidophilous, but found something for ear infections called CBG

extract (from NaturesSunshingProducts) I started giving her that

3 times a day along with every thing else and when I went back

to the Chiro again, it was gone. She didn't have a tramatic birth

but she was a very big baby (10lsb) when she was born. Her

coller bone broke during labor adn I'm wondering if her neck was

outta place when she was born leading to this after we stopped

nursing. Either way, that was 7 months ago and hasn't had an

ear infection since. Also, she is totally unvax and has never had

an antibiotic

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At 08:22 AM 12/12/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>>>?I'd say its pretty rare for an unvaxed, breastfed baby to get an ear

>infection.

>I, again, encourage her to look up symptoms she can figure out in

>homeopathy book or see a homeopath if he is very ill

>

>it hought so too. very rare, which is why i mentioned the c-section

>antibiotics? was she born by c-section?<<

>

>I thought it was rare, too. I was concerned because of this cold and

cough he has. He started pulling at his right ear. However, he is right

handed, and maybe just discovered his ear, I remember getting nervous when

my daughter did the same thing, at around the same age, but she was fine,

she just discovered she had a toy on the side of her head!

>

>He wasn't a c-section, he was natural, although I had pitocin and he had

the Vit. K injection (should have informed myself more about that one in

advance). That's it. Exclusively breastfed.

>

>I'm taking myself and the kids to a classical homeopath in Jan. Who was

the one that you recommended in Connecticut, Sherri?

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/STEVELIST.htm

>

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At 10:55 PM 12/11/2001 -0500, Steinbach wrote:

>Hi, Chelly!

>

>It sounds like your son's ear perforated, thus the orangy wax. You should

take him to the ear, nose and throat doctor to make sure that the

perforation has healed. Also, you want to make sure that his hearing

hasn't been compromised at all. This just happened to my daughter. So

far, everything is healing fine, but that is not always the way it goes.

Better to be on the safe side.

>

>

Nahhhhhh - I have orangy wax too

Chelly has a great homeopath - if she is concerned she can go there

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DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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, you might want to do a search at Mercola's website. A few months

ago, he had an article about excess ear wax. And it had to do with it being

caused by a shortage of EFAs (essential fatty acids) if I'm recalling

correctly. Anyone else here see that article? It's a shame if everyone here

isn't already subscribed to his free newsletter. He always seems to have

something good.

Kathleen

" We child-proofed our house 3 years ago but they're still getting in! "

In a message dated 12/12/2001 7:48:09 AM Central Standard Time,

mives@... writes:

> I wonder if its just his individual thing. For example my daughter and

> myself have normal brownish ear wax. My husband is always complaining his

> ears get " plugged " , he has to use some kind of ear wash to clean them out

> as it gets hard and packed in there. My son seems to have the same thing.

> One day, there was this lump or orangish wax on the outside of his ear,

> looked just like the stuff my husband cleans out. I know, this is gross

> and WAY too much information for you'all, but I just wonder if individuals

> have individual variations in ear eax?

>

>

>

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I think that's probably what it is . My 4 year old gets all kinds of

gunky ear wax woes!! I swear he is the ear-wax-producinest kid there ever was!

:)

When he was little (somewhere between 1 and 18 months, can't remember exactly)

he caught a real nasty stomach bug, was puking everywhere and telling us his

ears hurt. It was of course after hours for our Ped., so we took him to the

local emergency room. He had so much wax in his ears they had to flush them so

they could get a clear shot of the inner ear to see if it was infected! The ped.

on call said some people/kids just produce more wax than others, and it's

normal.

Odin will also have drainage from his ears sometimes (for that matter, every

once in a while my ears will drain too), and hunks of wax.

So there ya go, more gross info for ya! :)

Oh, and Odin was 100% breastfed too. He's never had an ear infection... just

lots, and lots of wax.

Liz

PS - I keep forgetting to check my mail box, so I'm not ignoring you if

you've sent me another email! :)

----- Original Message -----

From: Ives

I wonder if its just his individual thing. For example my daughter and myself

have normal brownish ear wax. My husband is always complaining his ears get

" plugged " , he has to use some kind of ear wash to clean them out as it gets hard

and packed in there. My son seems to have the same thing. One day, there was

this lump or orangish wax on the outside of his ear, looked just like the stuff

my husband cleans out. I know, this is gross and WAY too much information for

you'all, but I just wonder if individuals have individual variations in ear eax?

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Well I've been watching this one and am kinda suprised noone has

mentioned this! If you use regular cooking oil(all seem to work so

far I generaly use olive) and a clove of garlic presed or choped,

cook it for a few minutes till the garlic is real strong smeling.

strain out the garlic and let cool. put a couple drops in the ear and

a cotton ball to help keep it in. the infection will geneerally be

gone withing 48hrs or less!

I have very small eustatious tubes(the tube that allows drainage) and

have ear infections frequently because they block so easy. This has

always helped! the oil sooths the ear and allows it relax and allow

easier drainage and the garlic kills the infection!

For those of us who are no longer lactating (*snif snif*my babys only

15 and refused to nurse tilll I dried up now wants to start again!

(any hints by the way?)) this will work great and way cheaper than

whatever you can buy since most of us probably have these ingredients

on the shlef most all the time(if not its probably an emergency trip

o the store!LOL)

My middle child also has asthma and lots of allergies(partiallyvaxed

stupid me!) and get ear infections and pneumonia fairly often. Less

since going to the chiropractor theough! Anyway he says the oil and

garlic makes him dream of eating! LOL He had a very long celivery

and I was pumped fll of antibiotics but thats a different story!

marcia

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In a message dated 12/12/01 5:57:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,

vaccineinfo@... writes:

> Nahhhhhh - I have orangy wax too

> Chelly has a great homeopath - if she is concerned she can go there

>

I actually sent Bill an e-mail about it - he said if Trenton is acting normal

now then everything is just fine. but Io really do need to go in.

Trenton has often had big chunks of orange wax come out - I'd say at least

one every month or so - never any problems though - perhaps the wax is orange

due to the environment - like where he is playing and what kind of dirt he

gets into, thats what I figured anyway - cause the wax is there to clean the

ear right? So whatever comes out - must be dirt and dust and stuff.

Chelly

San Diego, CA

Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

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I hope you mean your baby's only 15 MONTHS!! LOL Just try to nurse and who

knows? You may start lactating again. Maybe not as much and maybe not at all

but the closeness may be all your baby wants.

Laurie>Oh

For those of us who are no longer lactating (*snif snif*my babys only

15 and refused to nurse tilll I dried up now wants to start again!

(any hints by the way?))

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ROFLOL!!!!!! Yes i meant 15 months LOL Yikes! I've tried and she

gets mad, very tempermental( family of 5 red heads!) little girl

though and she gets mad when she cant get as much as she want when

she wants. I heard of something that could be done to trick your

body into thinking it should be lactating(sufficiantly) pretty

quickly. I wish I knew where i had sen it so i could find out what it

was again! My husband and I plan to adopt several children and I plan

to nurse if they are younge enough to know thats what they should do!

So there has to be a way! I know I've heard of adoptive moms nursing !

Anyway thanks for the reply and if ANYONE has any info for me PLEASE

let me know!Marcia

PS Sorry if I missed some of the mising letters my keyboard doesn't

like to type al the time! especilly double letters

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Contact La Leche...I'll send link(hopefully). Lucky you! My first is a redhead

and second brown. I told my hubby I married him as he had red highlights and he

would give me red-headed babies (as it's dominant over blonde)(and I had the red

hair but now it's more auburn) and what did we end up with? A bleach blonde

boy, a towheaded(is that like silver?) boy, and a towheaded girl. Actually, our

first son together was redheaded but then it grew in bleach blonde escept right

on the top. Most people thot I died his hair(yeah,right, at 2?) and if it gets

longer, you can see the red. Verra interestin'. Good luck!

Laurie>Oh

www.lalecheleague.org/

www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/FAQadopt.html

Of course, it'll be fun and informative to surf their site :)

. I heard of something that could be done to trick your

body into thinking it should be lactating(sufficiantly) pretty

quickly. My husband and I plan to adopt several children and I plan

to nurse if they are younge enough to know thats what they should do!

So there has to be a way! I know I've heard of adoptive moms nursing !

Anyway thanks for the reply and if ANYONE has any info for me PLEASE

let me know!Marcia

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This is the first " doctor " my children visited as soon as possible after their

birth(except the 2 c-secs but they went there just as soon as I could get them

also). And I have used a chiropractor for ear " infections " . But these last 3

times were late at night when the pain occurred so mother's milk seemed the

answer! I swear by an adjustment from one experience. My son had no fever but

the doc said infection and I refused to treat with antibiotic. This was before I

knew to try HP or mm.) He was crying on occassion and not sleeping(breasrfeeding

and under a year old). After 2 days of this went to chiro and he fell asleeep

on the way home and slept the rest of the night! The next day he was exhibiting

normal behaviour (when I got home I also gave him a sip of beer :) as I didn't

have any wine)(per Dr. Mendelsohn's advice).

Laurie>Oh

Chiropractor fixed my baby's ear pain. Many people recommend that ALL new

babies see

a chiropractor as soon as possible because of all the baby endures during the

birth.

Kathleen

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Dear Edith,

Absolutely.

The eardrum is semi-permeable, and the ozone gas will slip through

and clean up that little problem.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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----Original Message Follows----

From: ejohns9525@...

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Ear infection

Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 21:56:58 EDT

Saul,

A friend has been treated for 1 yr for an ear infection that doc says is on

the

other side of ear drum. I think ozone via ear would permeate the drum

and get rid of it. Do you think this is possible?

Edith

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Have you tried using Proboitic's, usually a compounding Pharmacy carries

one that is usually better than those at Health food stores,

called Megagentic's Ultra Flora Plus ~ comes in capsules or powder

no taste. This will work like an anitboitic if you use enough, maybe 3 times

a day.

However it will work to keep the GI tract healthier and the immune system as

well.

The Herb Mullein or Garlic oil comes in a tincture and can be warmed

and add a few drops to the ears.< Find at health food stores

And there are some Homeopathic natural safe pills to use for pain,

Belladonna

> My son is having a very bad ear infection. Dr has

> >>prescribed amoxicillin for him. It is an antibiotic

> >>and i am not able to decide what to do for his ear

> >>infection as he is already having yeast overgrowth and

> >>bad bacteria in his gut.

>

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Have you tried using Proboitic's, usually a compounding Pharmacy carries

one that is usually better than those at Health food stores,

called Megagentic's Ultra Flora Plus ~ comes in capsules or powder

no taste. This will work like an anitboitic if you use enough, maybe 3 times

a day.

However it will work to keep the GI tract healthier and the immune system as

well.

The Herb Mullein or Garlic oil comes in a tincture and can be warmed

and add a few drops to the ears.< Find at health food stores

And there are some Homeopathic natural safe pills to use for pain,

Belladonna

> My son is having a very bad ear infection. Dr has

> >>prescribed amoxicillin for him. It is an antibiotic

> >>and i am not able to decide what to do for his ear

> >>infection as he is already having yeast overgrowth and

> >>bad bacteria in his gut.

>

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Swedish Bitters.......clears it right up.........BlueWillow

ear infection

> Hi,

> Does anyone know of a good natural cure for an ear infection?

> thanks,

> Tangerine

>

>

>

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Hi,

What is " swedish bitters " and where do you get it? A baked onion tied on

the ear also works, I tried this on both my sons. It not cleared the

infection, but made for a good laugh too!

" blue.willow "

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Swedish Bitters.......clears it right up.........BlueWillow

ear infection

> Hi,

> Does anyone know of a good natural cure for an ear infection?

> thanks,

> Tangerine

>

>

>

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Actually I have also tried the baked onoin remedy..My room ate had both ears

infected..So we only had purple onions,,I wrapped then on her ears with a

bandage...we were playing cards so she nedded the use of her hands..You are

right they kinda of work,,but she did look very funny.........Swedish

Bitters are a remedy..At the health food store it is about 50 bucks

for 750ml..I get mine in powder form ot of Richters Catalog for about 10

bucks and make my own extract......

http://www.richters.com/

www.SwedishBitters>com

I have many other uses for the " Bitters "

ear infection

>

>

> > Hi,

> > Does anyone know of a good natural cure for an ear infection?

> > thanks,

> > Tangerine

> >

> >

> >

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