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Start by analyzing where the microbe is supposed to be found. If in blood,

build the blood/herpes unit. if it is also in arterial linings, make two sets

of electrodes for the one battery, and use them on ankles and wrists at same

time. ankles one polarity, wrists the other. change polarity about once every

5-10 minutes to avoid electrolysis too long in one direction. wetting the cloth

electrodes with plain water should be fine, but I would add the meter as in the

other photos shown with a meter. there is some writing there to say what

readings are right on the meter. adding some baking soda to the water, just a

pinch, would tend to power it up quite a bit. having the meter you will be able

to tell. you can also add a 100k linear pot to adjust power.

how do you know you have a bug, did this get a test or diagnosis?

in any case, proceed a little at a time, maybe just 5 minutes am, 5 min pm first

few days to see what happens.

best of luck with it, and please post results for others

bG

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> Is this the one I ought to give a try?:

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http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QIPuTeZgPj_L57Aj_XT6aJkEChEiz1FglC1GVQWpDRGcMAwNNAz\

NlBiUpATiZB1ghpSMDXv_H7aQj-T0RG5vQruuDpllsyNY/GodRods.pdf

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> Where can I buy the natural/cellulose sponges?

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> How wet should the sponges be? Soak them and then squeeze them out is enough

moisture?

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> Does it matter if you place the positive or the negative side against the

body?

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> Shorter circuits means higher current. Is there a safety issue if I for

example squashed the device between by forearm and my bicep (like flexing your

arm), thus creating a much shorter circuit?

>

> If I used 1 unit and held it on my thigh for example, letting both sponges

contact the thigh, this would create a circuit right along the surface of the

skin and not pass through a significant portion of the body at all right?

>

> Thanks

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Hi Baby Grand,

I am afraid to say you totally lost me in this reply. What is the name of the

easiest unit to build that I might try for an infection that is both lining

blood vessels and in the blood? And will I find instructions on how to build

this unit in the files section, that match this same name? And then how do I

use it? Please be more careful in replying, as there are a number of things

that confused me here.

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> > Is this the one I ought to give a try?:

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> >

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QIPuTeZgPj_L57Aj_XT6aJkEChEiz1FglC1GVQWpDRGcMAwNNAz\

NlBiUpATiZB1ghpSMDXv_H7aQj-T0RG5vQruuDpllsyNY/GodRods.pdf

> >

> > Where can I buy the natural/cellulose sponges?

> >

> > How wet should the sponges be? Soak them and then squeeze them out is

enough moisture?

> >

> > Does it matter if you place the positive or the negative side against the

body?

> >

> > Shorter circuits means higher current. Is there a safety issue if I for

example squashed the device between by forearm and my bicep (like flexing your

arm), thus creating a much shorter circuit?

> >

> > If I used 1 unit and held it on my thigh for example, letting both sponges

contact the thigh, this would create a circuit right along the surface of the

skin and not pass through a significant portion of the body at all right?

> >

> > Thanks

> > ~

> >

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you should find the devices in menu/photos section.

" herpes and bloodstream " , build that one. then add another wire with two more

electrodes (you will understand this better as you build it).

the photos each has a caption to help explain it.

bG

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> > > Is this the one I ought to give a try?:

> > >

> > >

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QIPuTeZgPj_L57Aj_XT6aJkEChEiz1FglC1GVQWpDRGcMAwNNAz\

NlBiUpATiZB1ghpSMDXv_H7aQj-T0RG5vQruuDpllsyNY/GodRods.pdf

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> > > Where can I buy the natural/cellulose sponges?

> > >

> > > How wet should the sponges be? Soak them and then squeeze them out is

enough moisture?

> > >

> > > Does it matter if you place the positive or the negative side against the

body?

> > >

> > > Shorter circuits means higher current. Is there a safety issue if I for

example squashed the device between by forearm and my bicep (like flexing your

arm), thus creating a much shorter circuit?

> > >

> > > If I used 1 unit and held it on my thigh for example, letting both sponges

contact the thigh, this would create a circuit right along the surface of the

skin and not pass through a significant portion of the body at all right?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > ~

> > >

> >

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Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme brain " so

certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some questions.

I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer. It is

in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but I

think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for me. No

more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing really

works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24 hours

from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more herx

and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then on.

Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune system.

Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

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> > > > Is this the one I ought to give a try?:

> > > >

> > > >

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/QIPuTeZgPj_L57Aj_XT6aJkEChEiz1FglC1GVQWpDRGcMAwNNAz\

NlBiUpATiZB1ghpSMDXv_H7aQj-T0RG5vQruuDpllsyNY/GodRods.pdf

> > > >

> > > > Where can I buy the natural/cellulose sponges?

> > > >

> > > > How wet should the sponges be? Soak them and then squeeze them out is

enough moisture?

> > > >

> > > > Does it matter if you place the positive or the negative side against

the body?

> > > >

> > > > Shorter circuits means higher current. Is there a safety issue if I for

example squashed the device between by forearm and my bicep (like flexing your

arm), thus creating a much shorter circuit?

> > > >

> > > > If I used 1 unit and held it on my thigh for example, letting both

sponges contact the thigh, this would create a circuit right along the surface

of the skin and not pass through a significant portion of the body at all right?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > ~

> > > >

> > >

> >

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internal use of colloidal silver is not too helpful usually. it breaks down

quickly in the body so that it becomes inert and will not fight germs. CS only

works well on skin, or in a test tube where there are no body chemistry issues.

The body aggressively neutralizes colloidal silver once you swallow it, or even

inject into a vein, within about 8 seconds. People who sell it or the machines

that make it always talk about 650 microbes it has been tested on and killed in

6 minutes. Yes. But not inside the body, only in a dish. Once inside the

body, it turns into various things all of which are inert. metallic silver is

not going to work, only silver ions, and they are converted quickly into stable

compounds by body chemistry so that they are inert to germs. Forget CS for

internal use, except perhaps for a bad meal it might help kill some bugs in a

limited way.

there is a new type of silver-based solution called " silver sol " which allows

the silver to act within the body (they say). It is not known how good this

stuff is, but you can easily find out. One version of it is especially

interesting: Health Max ASAP 30 ppm.

This formula is: Ag4O4, meaning 4 atoms of silver, 4 of oxygen. It may be

able to do what you want, and SHOULD be better than colloidal silver. I have

little if any data, and all of it is from self-serving rather than object

sources. Still it appears to be a better version of silver than colloidal

silver. Best of luck with that.

Note: Ag4O4 can be made at home, you can get info on it if wanted or just be

cheaper to try a single bottle of the Health Max. Very low doses are needed, so

one 16 oz bottle may last 15 days or more and cost as little as 35 dollars. It

might give you enough feedback to know if you are getting anywhere with it.

you may find your bug responds to bloodstream electrification, or not. I heard

that Lyme's persists due to homing inside the nerves and brain, where hard to

reach via drugs and antibiotics. Electricity has no problem there, since these

organs are made to conduct electricity. I have long been saying that Lyme's

might be curable with antibiotics and electrification of the brain and spine at

the same time, no one listening however.

bG

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> Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme brain " so

certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some questions.

>

> I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer. It

is in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but I

think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

>

> Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for me.

No more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing

really works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24

hours from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more

herx and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then

on. Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune

system. Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

>

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...don't get riled up if you believe in colloidal silver, that's fine, whatever.

But it has not worked on the main things we would want it to work on, like hiv,

hep-c, etc. while it has worked well when inhaled for lung infections, and it

is used in burn cases in ER's too. It works best externally, slam dunk there.

I always wondered why it failed on the big nasty internal uses, and it's really

only lately that the bioavailability equation showed up to answer that.

However, the new silver oxide formulation Ag404 may have solve some or a lot of

that.

You can also make Ag404 at home using some simple chemicals, the hardest part is

just finding these chemicals. It can be done for maybe 100-200 dollars for a

fairly hefty batch of it. The stuff is a black powder, and can be encapsulated

in enteric-coated capsules to use internally and might remove HIV from the

gut(!) It has been tried in solution just orally and cd4 counts improved in all

cases in 4 months. Not a greatly controlled study, but showed promise.

bG

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> > Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme brain "

so certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some questions.

> >

> > I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer.

It is in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but

I think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

> >

> > Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for me.

No more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing

really works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24

hours from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more

herx and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then

on. Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune

system. Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

> >

> >

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I sent them an email to confirm. I did not know Ag4O4 was available in any

commercial products. I have been interested in trying it.

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> > Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme brain "

so certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some questions.

> >

> > I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer.

It is in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but

I think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

> >

> > Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for me.

No more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing

really works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24

hours from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more

herx and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then

on. Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune

system. Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

> >

> >

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somewhere in their promo, I think it was Dr. Gordon Pedersen, who mentioned that

Silver Sol is an Ag404-based product. So if they don't answer, I think you can

probably find the statement on the web somewhere. In one of his talks he uses a

molecular ping pong ball type model of the product, and the model is indeed

Ag404.

bG

> > >

> > > Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme

brain " so certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some

questions.

> > >

> > > I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer.

It is in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but

I think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

> > >

> > > Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for

me. No more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing

really works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24

hours from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more

herx and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then

on. Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune

system. Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

> > >

> > >

> >

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somewhere in their promo, I think it was Dr. Gordon Pedersen, who mentioned that

Silver Sol is an Ag404-based product. So if they don't answer, I think you can

probably find the statement on the web somewhere. In one of his talks he uses a

molecular ping pong ball type model of the product, and the model is indeed

Ag404.

bG

> > >

> > > Okay, I will be looking through the photo instructions. I got " lyme

brain " so certain things I have a hard time understanding. Count on some

questions.

> > >

> > > I test positive for bartonella, which I think is the main symptom causer.

It is in the blood, and lines all blood vessels. Tested positive for lyme, but

I think it is long from using rife machines. Took care of massive yeast with

coconut oil. Mycoplasma and a protozoal parasite (probably babesia) were seen

almost 2 years ago under a microscope. I am not sure they are still there or

are still a problem. Bartonella is the guy I am suspect of.

> > >

> > > Colloidal silver was probably a literal life saver. But that peaked for

me. No more herxes or improvements. It's been over a year since that. Nothing

really works since then. Three times I got herx and clear improvement within 24

hours from starting different antibiotics for bartonella. But after 24, no more

herx and the improvement disappeared, and the antibiotic does nothing from then

on. Tricky bugs. May be biofilm. May be adapting. May be depleted immune

system. Anyrate, blood electrification....one more thing to try now...

> > >

> > >

> >

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