Re: Godzilla for lung infection

[Guest guest]

My electrodes are made out of things gotten from the dollar store...for my

electrodes, I just cut up one of those stainless steel 'whisks' used for

whipping up eggs and the like.

My moistened pads are made from terry cloth sleeves, there are large ones used

for mops, and smaller pads are used for cleaning blinds, and are mounted on a

three fingered plastic hand like form.

After cutting the terry fingers apart and resewing the ends, I take two of them

and slide in the zig-zag shaped electrodes I made from the steel whisk, sized to

fit snugly into the terry cloth sleeves.

This gives me pads to use for large and small applications, as the case may be.

Regards...

>

> bG,

> The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> worse, so apparently it does work.

> Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> so expect that is a maximum.

> I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> 1.2 ma.

> I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> for informing us about microelectricity.

> Bill

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Bill, (my middle name)..this is going on awhile do you have a checkup and

diagnosis? I have to ask, genuine concern. If it's an infection, good to know,

or whatever else.

My own experience with daughter she used it on both wrists and this passed

current through arteries into lungs and seems to work for her, over a few years

now to handle recurring infections of the lung. She did get them diagnosed as

lung infections and prescribed antibiotics. Now she uses godzilla as described

without having to rely on antibiotics. Still, she wanted to know if she should

go and get diagnosed again to be sure it is lung infection.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on lung infection, if that is what it is.

One reason I wonder, is that CS in nebulizer did not knock it out. Reports of

pneumonia clearing in an hour exist.

best,

bG

>

> bG,

> The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> worse, so apparently it does work.

> Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> so expect that is a maximum.

> I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> 1.2 ma.

> I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> for informing us about microelectricity.

> Bill

>

[Guest guest]

very nice! using dollar store stainless from whisks is really slick. I have

not been in there in awhile, and did not think of it. Stainless steel most of

the kinds I have tried makes very long-lasting and well-behaved electrodes.

Some of the " coated " or other stainless does not passivate or form oxide readily

and is too hot to use, the current is high without any restraint, similar to

gold plated electrodes..hot, man hot.

Keep up good ingenious work,

bG

> >

> > bG,

> > The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> > " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> > think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> > in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> > to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> > the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> > against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> > approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> > coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> > worse, so apparently it does work.

> > Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> > inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> > starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> > Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> > settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> > I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> > experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> > current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> > so expect that is a maximum.

> > I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> > freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> > and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> > 1.2 ma.

> > I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> > promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> > for informing us about microelectricity.

> > Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

bG, Thanks for your reply. I apparently have/had(?) a very strange bug. Last week, doctor was threatning hospital pending lab findings. All lab tests came back negative! Sputum tests were also negative! Nurse said it couldn't be bacterial, but let's repeat the sputum tests. This leaves viral. In the meantime, use of godzilla as described before is working, I immediately feel clearer after using it. I time each session with a Sony Walkman tape deck, a marvelous instrument no longer made by the way, 45 min/casette side, flipping polarity every five minutes. My conclusion: for a persistent type of bug one must be faithful in using it at least three times a day until clear. Continuity is very important in order to completely clear the lungs and get rid of coughing fits. The other approach your daughter used also sounds interesting. The many -- and effective -- uses of godzilla is very exciting, more people need to know. We have only scratched the surface! There is so much to learn. I am excited -- and grateful!

Thanks, Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

Hey Bill, (my middle name)..this is going on awhile do you have a checkup and diagnosis? I have to ask, genuine concern. If it's an infection, good to know, or whatever else.My own experience with daughter she used it on both wrists and this passed current through arteries into lungs and seems to work for her, over a few years now to handle recurring infections of the lung. She did get them diagnosed as lung infections and prescribed antibiotics. Now she uses godzilla as described without having to rely on antibiotics. Still, she wanted to know if she should go and get diagnosed again to be sure it is lung infection.Anyway, that's my thoughts on lung infection, if that is what it is.One reason I wonder, is that CS in nebulizer did not knock it out. Reports of pneumonia clearing in an hour exist.best,bG>> bG,> The start of my saga with what I called a "backdoor cold" is filed under> "Bill's cold". At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I> think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS> in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping> to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over> the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back> against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other> approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the> coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got> worse, so apparently it does work.> Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for> inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When> starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.> Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,> settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,> I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's> experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is> current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma> so expect that is a maximum.> I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus> freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma> and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to> 1.2 ma.> I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of> promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you> for informing us about microelectricity.> Bill>

[Guest guest]

Nodsug,

Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

My electrodes are made out of things gotten from the dollar store...for my electrodes, I just cut up one of those stainless steel 'whisks' used for whipping up eggs and the like.My moistened pads are made from terry cloth sleeves, there are large ones used for mops, and smaller pads are used for cleaning blinds, and are mounted on a three fingered plastic hand like form.After cutting the terry fingers apart and resewing the ends, I take two of them and slide in the zig-zag shaped electrodes I made from the steel whisk, sized to fit snugly into the terry cloth sleeves.This gives me pads to use for large and small applications, as the case may be.Regards...>> bG,> The start of my saga with what I called a "backdoor cold" is filed under> "Bill's cold". At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I> think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS> in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping> to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over> the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back> against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other> approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the> coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got> worse, so apparently it does work.> Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for> inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When> starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.> Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,> settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,> I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's> experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is> current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma> so expect that is a maximum.> I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus> freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma> and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to> 1.2 ma.> I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of> promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you> for informing us about microelectricity.> Bill>

[Guest guest]

Nodsug,

Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

My electrodes are made out of things gotten from the dollar store...for my electrodes, I just cut up one of those stainless steel 'whisks' used for whipping up eggs and the like.My moistened pads are made from terry cloth sleeves, there are large ones used for mops, and smaller pads are used for cleaning blinds, and are mounted on a three fingered plastic hand like form.After cutting the terry fingers apart and resewing the ends, I take two of them and slide in the zig-zag shaped electrodes I made from the steel whisk, sized to fit snugly into the terry cloth sleeves.This gives me pads to use for large and small applications, as the case may be.Regards...>> bG,> The start of my saga with what I called a "backdoor cold" is filed under> "Bill's cold". At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I> think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS> in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping> to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over> the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back> against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other> approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the> coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got> worse, so apparently it does work.> Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for> inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When> starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.> Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,> settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,> I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's> experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is> current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma> so expect that is a maximum.> I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus> freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma> and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to> 1.2 ma.> I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of> promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you> for informing us about microelectricity.> Bill>

[Guest guest]

hmm virus makes more sense than bacteria if medical people sense bacteria they

react quick and surefire usually, it's an older problem than virus, they are

more ready for it.

ok, i guess keep trying godzilla. It's my thought that a virus has a net

external charge and that dc current (godzilla current) tends to either reverse

or remove it, so that the virus does not get that first step--attachment.

Attachment, as you probably know, for benefit of others here, is a process

independent of the virus and the host cell. No energy comes from the internals

of the cell or the virus. Instead, external static charges attract the virus to

the host cell and vice versa. If the virus is tens of thousands of times

smaller than the host cell, the use of dc current could tend to alter the

charges on the tiny virus while leaving unchanged the static charges on the host

cells. This means they don't draw together, or not as often. So virus does not

attach and dies off without reproducing.

It can take weeks or months for virus to die off. Hep-c took 6 weeks to show up

reduced in tests. 3 weeks it was hardly changed, then by 6 weeks, bam, down she

went over 90 percent.

This is why I suspect virus.

bG

> >

> > bG,

> > The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> > " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> > think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> > in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> > to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> > the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> > against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> > approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> > coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> > worse, so apparently it does work.

> > Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> > inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> > starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> > Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> > settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> > I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> > experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> > current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> > so expect that is a maximum.

> > I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> > freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> > and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> > 1.2 ma.

> > I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> > promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> > for informing us about microelectricity.

> > Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hmm virus makes more sense than bacteria if medical people sense bacteria they

react quick and surefire usually, it's an older problem than virus, they are

more ready for it.

ok, i guess keep trying godzilla. It's my thought that a virus has a net

external charge and that dc current (godzilla current) tends to either reverse

or remove it, so that the virus does not get that first step--attachment.

Attachment, as you probably know, for benefit of others here, is a process

independent of the virus and the host cell. No energy comes from the internals

of the cell or the virus. Instead, external static charges attract the virus to

the host cell and vice versa. If the virus is tens of thousands of times

smaller than the host cell, the use of dc current could tend to alter the

charges on the tiny virus while leaving unchanged the static charges on the host

cells. This means they don't draw together, or not as often. So virus does not

attach and dies off without reproducing.

It can take weeks or months for virus to die off. Hep-c took 6 weeks to show up

reduced in tests. 3 weeks it was hardly changed, then by 6 weeks, bam, down she

went over 90 percent.

This is why I suspect virus.

bG

> >

> > bG,

> > The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> > " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> > think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> > in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> > to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> > the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> > against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> > approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> > coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> > worse, so apparently it does work.

> > Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> > inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> > starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> > Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> > settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> > I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> > experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> > current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> > so expect that is a maximum.

> > I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> > freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> > and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> > 1.2 ma.

> > I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> > promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> > for informing us about microelectricity.

> > Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

right thinking Bill, it's probable that even the powers that be will need this

too. I already have one uses it for everything. And she gets her stuff free.

It's simply better, according to her.

bG

> >

> > bG,

> > The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> > " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> > think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> > in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> > to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> > the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> > against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> > approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> > coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> > worse, so apparently it does work.

> > Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> > inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> > starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> > Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> > settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> > I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> > experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> > current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> > so expect that is a maximum.

> > I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> > freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> > and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> > 1.2 ma.

> > I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> > promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> > for informing us about microelectricity.

> > Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

right thinking Bill, it's probable that even the powers that be will need this

too. I already have one uses it for everything. And she gets her stuff free.

It's simply better, according to her.

bG

> >

> > bG,

> > The start of my saga with what I called a " backdoor cold " is filed under

> > " Bill's cold " . At this point three weeks later I am fighting what I

> > think is a lung infection. I am using godzilla to fight it, and also CS

> > in a nebulizer. I place the sponges a little below the armpits hoping

> > to cover both lungs. Then for coughing, one in front of my rib cage over

> > the tickle that causes the cough, the other opposite behind my back

> > against a leather chair. I have found that using one or the other

> > approach about three times a day for about 45 minutes each reduces the

> > coughing and congestion. Had to take today off to do errands and got

> > worse, so apparently it does work.

> > Some comments. I am using #18 lamp cord and think it is too small for

> > inside the sponge. Will change to no. 16 lamp cord when I can. When

> > starting, current is about.6 ma, very slowly rising as time goes by.

> > Finally I get current of about 1.3 ma max when changing polarity,

> > settling down to about .9 ma. The bare # 16 wire corrodes rapidly also,

> > I suspect that reduces the current. What current does everyone's

> > experience say is optimum for best results for my type of problem? Is

> > current level critical? I feel a slight tingle when current is at 1.3 ma

> > so expect that is a maximum.

> > I am using a back supporter belt to hold the sponges to my sides, thus

> > freeing my hands. With my present setup, current runs about .8 to .9 ma

> > and pressing my hands on the sponges will increase the current to 1.1 to

> > 1.2 ma.

> > I feel I have a lot to learn and I think this method has lots of

> > promise. And, we may need it later if hinted changes happen. Thank you

> > for informing us about microelectricity.

> > Bill

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I bought a roll of six inch wide aluminum flashing from the home improvement

store and cut electrodes from that with a pair of scissors. Aluminum is more

conductive than steel. The aluminum can be sharp on the edges and corners so one

must handle with care. I round the corners so I don't get poked and can more

easily slip the aluminum into the sleeve.

I have made wrist and ankle cuffs by sewing together a layer of thin vinyl

fabric and synthetic chamois cloth and slipping the aluminum in between. I've

attached velcro to each end of the cuff to fasten it around the wrist/ankle. I

also cut the aluminum strips with a tab on the side of one end that is bent up,

away from the skin and clip on the wire with an alligator clip.

The only negative issue I have had with this system is that I get an electricity

rash if I leave it on too long. Using electrical tape to reduce surface area of

the aluminum exposed to the chamois helps.

>

> Nodsug,

>

> Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

I bought a roll of six inch wide aluminum flashing from the home improvement

store and cut electrodes from that with a pair of scissors. Aluminum is more

conductive than steel. The aluminum can be sharp on the edges and corners so one

must handle with care. I round the corners so I don't get poked and can more

easily slip the aluminum into the sleeve.

I have made wrist and ankle cuffs by sewing together a layer of thin vinyl

fabric and synthetic chamois cloth and slipping the aluminum in between. I've

attached velcro to each end of the cuff to fasten it around the wrist/ankle. I

also cut the aluminum strips with a tab on the side of one end that is bent up,

away from the skin and clip on the wire with an alligator clip.

The only negative issue I have had with this system is that I get an electricity

rash if I leave it on too long. Using electrical tape to reduce surface area of

the aluminum exposed to the chamois helps.

>

> Nodsug,

>

> Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

>

> Bill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Great, Ruth. This system of yours gives me an idea, it could put a lot of

current into one human body. have you yet put a meter in it? If you did, it

would provide info on how much.

The total current can be much higher using your bands idea. The caution is ONLY

use battery, never anything to the wall with this.

I am curious because systemic infections such as HIV and hep-c, Lyme's etc have

not been available to us since not enough current can be gotten into the human

body to reach all the areas where these germs can hide. making contact with all

extremities at once would allow a lot more current.

For hiv and hep-c the idea would be 4 cuffs, plus one wide belt around the

intestinal area or liver area. The 4 cuffs would have one polarity, the belt

the opposite. Even without a belt, the 4 way idea might make sense. See

files/all results/hiv/tomy. I believe he used it both wrists and ankles but not

sure how much current or if all 4 at once. His report is a bit sketchy and

enthusiastic. His CD4 count improved quite a bit and he seemed to be doing very

well. But then he stopped writing us. None of the people using Beck's device on

one wrist did well that I've heard of. This is due to the germ living in gut

linings where nothing (so far) has been able to reach it.

bG

> >

> > Nodsug,

> >

> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Great, Ruth. This system of yours gives me an idea, it could put a lot of

current into one human body. have you yet put a meter in it? If you did, it

would provide info on how much.

The total current can be much higher using your bands idea. The caution is ONLY

use battery, never anything to the wall with this.

I am curious because systemic infections such as HIV and hep-c, Lyme's etc have

not been available to us since not enough current can be gotten into the human

body to reach all the areas where these germs can hide. making contact with all

extremities at once would allow a lot more current.

For hiv and hep-c the idea would be 4 cuffs, plus one wide belt around the

intestinal area or liver area. The 4 cuffs would have one polarity, the belt

the opposite. Even without a belt, the 4 way idea might make sense. See

files/all results/hiv/tomy. I believe he used it both wrists and ankles but not

sure how much current or if all 4 at once. His report is a bit sketchy and

enthusiastic. His CD4 count improved quite a bit and he seemed to be doing very

well. But then he stopped writing us. None of the people using Beck's device on

one wrist did well that I've heard of. This is due to the germ living in gut

linings where nothing (so far) has been able to reach it.

bG

> >

> > Nodsug,

> >

> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

BG,

My only consideration might be the electricity rash one could get from so much

current. I do get it on my wrists and ankles if I wear it too long. I haven't

put a meter on it although I keep reading about that on the list and may do it

some day.

I have not made a belt yet. What I did was make vinyl covers for my big sponges

so they are exposed on one side and covered on the sides and back. That way I

can use them without getting my clothes wet. The belt would be a better idea. I

am envisioning something that could be worn while walking around so I don't have

to stay put while zapping.

Ruth

> > >

> > > Nodsug,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

BG,

My only consideration might be the electricity rash one could get from so much

current. I do get it on my wrists and ankles if I wear it too long. I haven't

put a meter on it although I keep reading about that on the list and may do it

some day.

I have not made a belt yet. What I did was make vinyl covers for my big sponges

so they are exposed on one side and covered on the sides and back. That way I

can use them without getting my clothes wet. The belt would be a better idea. I

am envisioning something that could be worn while walking around so I don't have

to stay put while zapping.

Ruth

> > >

> > > Nodsug,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> > >

> > > Bill

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ruth, how long is " too long " ?

It is possible to measure and control the current using resistors and meters.

Total current is not the problem, it's how much in how big an area. So all of

this is possible.

The problem is still getting the current to " find " hiv in the gut linings. It

may not want to go there.

I am talking with an engineer about some sort of current device using dc current

around the abdomen along with a magnetic force to bend the current inward to

reach the HIV in gut. Not sure if it can really be done. In any case HIV

patients are not usually available to test this on, and they are coming real

close to a cure for hiv anyway. But having a non-specific germkiller that can

hit any germ anywhere is a distant goal of ours, it would round out the picture.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Nodsug,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ruth, how long is " too long " ?

It is possible to measure and control the current using resistors and meters.

Total current is not the problem, it's how much in how big an area. So all of

this is possible.

The problem is still getting the current to " find " hiv in the gut linings. It

may not want to go there.

I am talking with an engineer about some sort of current device using dc current

around the abdomen along with a magnetic force to bend the current inward to

reach the HIV in gut. Not sure if it can really be done. In any case HIV

patients are not usually available to test this on, and they are coming real

close to a cure for hiv anyway. But having a non-specific germkiller that can

hit any germ anywhere is a distant goal of ours, it would round out the picture.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Nodsug,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> > > >

> > > > Bill

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma, whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1 ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges. What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My gratitude to bG!

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

I bought a roll of six inch wide aluminum flashing from the home improvement store and cut electrodes from that with a pair of scissors. Aluminum is more conductive than steel. The aluminum can be sharp on the edges and corners so one must handle with care. I round the corners so I don't get poked and can more easily slip the aluminum into the sleeve. I have made wrist and ankle cuffs by sewing together a layer of thin vinyl fabric and synthetic chamois cloth and slipping the aluminum in between. I've attached velcro to each end of the cuff to fasten it around the wrist/ankle. I also cut the aluminum strips with a tab on the side of one end that is bent up, away from the skin and clip on the wire with an alligator clip.The only negative issue I have had with this system is that I get an electricity rash if I leave it on too long. Using electrical tape to reduce surface area of the aluminum exposed to the chamois helps.>> Nodsug,> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!> > Bill> >

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma, whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1 ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges. What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My gratitude to bG!

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

I bought a roll of six inch wide aluminum flashing from the home improvement store and cut electrodes from that with a pair of scissors. Aluminum is more conductive than steel. The aluminum can be sharp on the edges and corners so one must handle with care. I round the corners so I don't get poked and can more easily slip the aluminum into the sleeve. I have made wrist and ankle cuffs by sewing together a layer of thin vinyl fabric and synthetic chamois cloth and slipping the aluminum in between. I've attached velcro to each end of the cuff to fasten it around the wrist/ankle. I also cut the aluminum strips with a tab on the side of one end that is bent up, away from the skin and clip on the wire with an alligator clip.The only negative issue I have had with this system is that I get an electricity rash if I leave it on too long. Using electrical tape to reduce surface area of the aluminum exposed to the chamois helps.>> Nodsug,> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!> > Bill> >

[Guest guest]

can use doubled up alum foil for same effect. also less likely to have hot

spots.

bG

> >

> > Nodsug,

> >

> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

can use doubled up alum foil for same effect. also less likely to have hot

spots.

bG

> >

> > Nodsug,

> >

> > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

> >

> > Bill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

bG,

Another application of Ruth H's excellent suggestion for using aluminum for electrodes. I use a lot of aluminum bar stock in my shop. Happened to have a piece of 1/16 x 1/2 strip, so I cut two pieces about 1 1/4 inches long, tapped holes in ends for 6-32 screws, attached wire terminals with leads and inserted them in sponges. Worked very well. Benefit is that they don't get bent, distorted or jostled by occasional squeezing, always the same shape and I can also tell where they are.

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

can use doubled up alum foil for same effect. also less likely to have hot spots.bG> >> > Nodsug,> > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!> > > > Bill> > > >>

[Guest guest]

bG,

Another application of Ruth H's excellent suggestion for using aluminum for electrodes. I use a lot of aluminum bar stock in my shop. Happened to have a piece of 1/16 x 1/2 strip, so I cut two pieces about 1 1/4 inches long, tapped holes in ends for 6-32 screws, attached wire terminals with leads and inserted them in sponges. Worked very well. Benefit is that they don't get bent, distorted or jostled by occasional squeezing, always the same shape and I can also tell where they are.

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

can use doubled up alum foil for same effect. also less likely to have hot spots.bG> >> > Nodsug,> > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If "powers that be" have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without breaking the bank!> > > > Bill> > > >>

[Guest guest]

If I use it for a half hour or so I get an itchy rash that takes a couple days

to go away.

If I get ambitious and want a challenge I may try to the resistor/meter

addition. Do you have recommendations and where to buy?

Maybe zapping while going through an MRI machine would do the trick for getting

current to the inside of the body. ; )

>

> Ruth, how long is " too long " ?

>

> It is possible to measure and control the current using resistors and meters.

Total current is not the problem, it's how much in how big an area. So all of

this is possible.

>

> The problem is still getting the current to " find " hiv in the gut linings. It

may not want to go there.

>

> I am talking with an engineer about some sort of current device using dc

current around the abdomen along with a magnetic force to bend the current

inward to reach the HIV in gut. Not sure if it can really be done. In any case

HIV patients are not usually available to test this on, and they are coming real

close to a cure for hiv anyway. But having a non-specific germkiller that can

hit any germ anywhere is a distant goal of ours, it would round out the picture.

>

> bG

>