Re: Godzilla for lung infection

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Bill,

I have enough " Scotch " to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to make a

cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around. It

wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the hinge

repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for replacement

hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything.

http://www.photo.is/titanium.html

I also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing to cover

the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I did it I

used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from being

bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then connected by

wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break as nothing is

flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing and attached a

wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of flashing. I have

a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the back of the neck

or the front.

Ruth

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> Ruth,

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> It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of

aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch

ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with

something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From

my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current

is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma,

whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1

ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges.

What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various

setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible

burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My

gratitude to bG!

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> Bill

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[Guest guest]

Dr.Ruth, nice going!

You'd think with a name like MacIntosh, they'd have some sense of proportion

about the prices, no?

bG

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> > Ruth,

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> > It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of

aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch

ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with

something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From

my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current

is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma,

whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1

ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges.

What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various

setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible

burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My

gratitude to bG!

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> > Bill

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[Guest guest]

Dr.Ruth, nice going!

You'd think with a name like MacIntosh, they'd have some sense of proportion

about the prices, no?

bG

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> > Ruth,

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> > It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of

aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch

ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with

something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From

my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current

is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma,

whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1

ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges.

What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various

setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible

burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My

gratitude to bG!

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> > Bill

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>

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

The use of just vinyl and chamois sounds interesting. Will have to dream up some shapes and get my wife to sew them together. You say synthetic chamois -- will have to find out what that is and where to get it. Maybe less bulky than sponges

I would strongly recommend getting and adding a meter like bG shows in the illustrations, about $5 at Harbor Freight. Much easier to know where you're at. I find skin resistivity differs on different areas of the body, some spots high resistivity and low current, and some spots low resistivity with high current and possibility of irritation. Adjusting current to a desired level with a control, or even pressure, where you know where it is, is much easier.

Thanks for your input.

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

Bill,I have enough "Scotch" to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to make a cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around. It wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the hinge repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for replacement hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything. http://www.photo.is/titanium.htmlI also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing to cover the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I did it I used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from being bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then connected by wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break as nothing is flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing and attached a wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of flashing. I have a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the back of the neck or the front. Ruth>> Ruth,> > It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma, whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1 ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges. What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My gratitude to bG!> > Bill>

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

The use of just vinyl and chamois sounds interesting. Will have to dream up some shapes and get my wife to sew them together. You say synthetic chamois -- will have to find out what that is and where to get it. Maybe less bulky than sponges

I would strongly recommend getting and adding a meter like bG shows in the illustrations, about $5 at Harbor Freight. Much easier to know where you're at. I find skin resistivity differs on different areas of the body, some spots high resistivity and low current, and some spots low resistivity with high current and possibility of irritation. Adjusting current to a desired level with a control, or even pressure, where you know where it is, is much easier.

Thanks for your input.

Bill

Re: Godzilla for lung infection

Bill,I have enough "Scotch" to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to make a cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around. It wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the hinge repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for replacement hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything. http://www.photo.is/titanium.htmlI also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing to cover the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I did it I used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from being bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then connected by wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break as nothing is flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing and attached a wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of flashing. I have a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the back of the neck or the front. Ruth>> Ruth,> > It looks as if you have made a great contribution with the suggestion of aluminum flashing. (How to get a little without buying a whole roll?? {Scotch ancestry!}) I will be trying it soon. Attaching the leads to the electrodes with something like nuts & bolts (tiny) would free your hands for other things. From my experience I think a meter is essential. Otherwise, no idea how much current is flowing. I occasionally start out and the current may be only .2 or .3 ma, whereas after I rewet the sponges, maybe a little bicarb, it bounces to around 1 ma. Then control is either with a potentiometer or just pressure on the sponges. What I haven't learned yet is what the optimum current should be for various setups, except I feel that it should not cause noticeable tingle and possible burns. There is so much to learn and so few people to pass on experience. My gratitude to bG!> > Bill>

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

The only thing good I can say about Mac pricing is that they are a lot cheaper

than they used to be. Having done 18 months as a network admin for a bunch of

Windows machines I am not inspired to go with a cheaper option.

But back to electricity - I went to Harbor Freight and couldn't find any sort of

gadget for damping down the power. Any other recommendations?

Ruth

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> > Bill,

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> > I have enough " Scotch " to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to make

a cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around. It

wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the hinge

repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for replacement

hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything.

http://www.photo.is/titanium.html

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> > I also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing to

cover the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I did

it I used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from

being bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then

connected by wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break

as nothing is flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing

and attached a wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of

flashing. I have a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the

back of the neck or the front.

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> > Ruth

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[Guest guest]

sure radio shack, 100k linear potentiometer. about 2-3 bucks. use center post

and one of the outer posts, should work great.

bG

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> > > Bill,

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> > > I have enough " Scotch " to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to

make a cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around.

It wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the

hinge repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for

replacement hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything.

http://www.photo.is/titanium.html

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> > > I also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing to

cover the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I did

it I used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from

being bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then

connected by wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break

as nothing is flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing

and attached a wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of

flashing. I have a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the

back of the neck or the front.

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> > > Ruth

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[Guest guest]

you should solder the joints but if not, then twist tightly and use some heat

shrink tube over them to hold on, but they can get loose.

bG

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> > > > Bill,

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> > > > I have enough " Scotch " to sympathize. I bought a six inch wide roll to

make a cheap hinge repair for an old Powerbook so I had it just sitting around.

It wasn't expensive as it was, as the cost of flashing and super glue for the

hinge repair was under $10, and much cheaper than the nearly $150 for

replacement hinges, and I didn't have to disassemble anything.

http://www.photo.is/titanium.html

> > > >

> > > > I also made a mask with the vinyl and some velcro and cut the flashing

to cover the sinus area of the nose and between the eyebrows. The first time I

did it I used one piece of flashing and it broke at the bridge of the nose from

being bent a lot, so I made it two pieces, each one doubled over and then

connected by wire strung through the folds for a hinge. That one doesn't break

as nothing is flexing. I then sewed the ersatz chamois cloth over the flashing

and attached a wire to the top through two holes I punched in the top piece of

flashing. I have a colar around the neck so I get current running either to the

back of the neck or the front.

> > > >

> > > > Ruth

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Baby Grand

I will volunteer on this " I am talking with an engineer about some sort of

current device using dc current around the abdomen along with a magnetic force

to bend the current inward to reach the HIV in gut "

Regards,

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> > > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town. I

replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked better.

Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to learn about

this method and I think more people need to know about it. If " powers that be "

have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the future without

breaking the bank!

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> > > > > Bill

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, will keep in mind if it develops that a current can be deflected

significantly by strong electric field so it travels into the body. I doubt

this can be done, but who knows. Have you any experience with silver sol? I

put a lot here including a study showing profound increase in cd4, like 40% on 7

patients with HIV/confirmed western blot, using it, wondered if anyone here did

any testing on it? Combined with meds that might be near a cure.

bG

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> > > > > > Nodsug,

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> > > > > > Thanks for the tips, I will raid the Dollar Store next time in town.

I replaced my #18 wire leads/electrodes with #16 lamp cord and it worked

better. Am interested in trying s/s electrodes, however. There is so much to

learn about this method and I think more people need to know about it. If

" powers that be " have their way we may need this to maintain our health in the

future without breaking the bank!

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> > > > > > Bill

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