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In a message dated 7/12/01 1:07:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

dickb54@... writes:

> . My biopsy is grade 2

> stage 2, and I am waiting at this time for the peg-riba to be

> approved, as I think it will be superior to Rebetron.

My biopsy result was the same. The sides on the peg will be less, so that's

a comfort. Look for comfort when you can, right? Good luck on the peg,

whatever your decision is. I think everyone does some kind of herbal mix

when they find out. Also during tx. and post-tx. I know I got a bunch of

herb bottles and extra vitamins. I dose myself twice a day. Ya gotta do

what ya gotta do...

Peace, Jane

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Welcome to our group. You will find some wonderful people here and a lot

of support and information.

Some of us use alternative healing....either alone or along with tx. If

you are using chinese medicine, blupurem (that's spelled wrong) has a

bad reaction with interferon, so a month before you start tx, you need

to stop the blupurem. I've forgotten the chinese name but can get it for

you if you want.

You will be able to find herbal information here....and other

alternative treatments. I myself use chinese medicine in combination

with rebetron. So ask any questions you might have.

I will be tied up the next two nights....working on a huge project for

work and just checking my mail occasionally.

Tatezi

dickb54@... wrote:

> Hello, my name is dick, nickname buffalo, I am new to your

> group, though I have " spoken with a couple of you. I knew

> Claudine from the NHCC boards, and you have her to blame for

> my prescence. I am a 1a1b mix, 8 mil/IU viral load, ALT's in the

> 250 range for the last several months. My biopsy is grade 2

> stage 2, and I am waiting at this time for the peg-riba to be

> approved, as I think it will be superior to Rebetron. I do a lot of

> herbs under the care of a CMP at the Institute for Traditional

> Medecine in Portland, Oregon. I am looking for some folks who

> are understanding of herbal tx; the boards I have been on are not

> very respectful of anything not " mainstream " . I tend to use humor

> to get me thru, so tell me if I seem to frivolous. Thanx; God bless

>

>

>

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--- dickb54@... wrote:

I tend

> to use humor

> to get me thru, so tell me if I seem to frivolous.

Hi Dick! There is no such thing as too much humor!

You know what they say, laughter is the best medicine

- and I believe it!

Lots of people here use alternatives, or alternatives

in combination with medical treatment, and no one here

will attack you if you ask for info or share info on

alternatives. All info is welcome here, whether

everyone agrees with it or not. I'm glad you decided

to join in, and think you will like it here!

Claudine

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Hey Dick,

I forgot to ask you - are you using any

alternatives right now? If so, what are you taking,

and do you think it's helping?

Claudine

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>From: claudine intexas <claudineintexas@...>

>Reply-Hepatitis C

>Hepatitis C

>Subject: Re: Newbie

>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 00:26:35 -0700 (PDT)

>

>

>Hey Dick,

> I forgot to ask you - are you using any

>alternatives right now? If so, what are you taking,

>and do you think it's helping?

>Claudine

>Hi, Claudine. Yes I am currently continuing my herbal therapy, and feel it

>definitely helps. i take 2 decoctions; hep c granules contains salvia, red

>peony, astralagus, forsythia, gardenia, crataegus, moutan, dandelion,

>ho-shou-wu, and bupleurum. The other contains Curcuma, Licorice,

>Schizandra, milk thistle, Shitake, and Reishi(mushrooms). In addition I

>take alpha-lipoic acid(600mg), and vitamins c and e. How are you doing

>down there? Here it is a pleasant 75 degrees(hehe).

>__________________________________________________

>

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Dear holly

First thing is stop drinking, you are never going to get anywhere if you don't.

You are young so the peg-interferon might help. But the drinking will only

damage the liver more. When I was young I like to party too. But when the side

effect, a two day hangover, out weighted the good times. I stopped. I got my

hepc thru a transfusion in 1987. I wasn't diagnosed until 1998 and I didn't go

thru the testing until 2001. I was not a candiate, depression.

Be honest with your doctor. If you don' t like either one find some one else.

My regular Doctor was great he knew me as a person. The Hep Dr. was only

interested in me as a liver making money off my illness ,this became clear, on

the first visit. He left his patients hanging for hours in his waiting room.

Which is a clear indication, he had no regard for your time, your job etc. He

still wanted to go ahead with the treatment after his teacher , and the head of

the study, both told him with my history of depression, I was not a candidate.

I don't know how long it takes the liver to cleanse itself of alchol, but ask

your doctor. You have your whole life in front of you. Don't do anything to

sabotage your treatment. I have a young friend that went thru the treatment and

was clear she has a beautiful baby girl, who is healthy. Good luck.

holly golightly <lightly_go_holly@...> wrote: hello, all. i am about

to start peg-interferon and ribavirin. i am 30... i was diagnosed about 4

years ago. they were worried at first that i had autoimmune with hepC so my

two lovely doctors (said as sarcastically as possible) decided to play tug of

war with me... " do this " " take this " , " dont' take that " ... the whole routine.

so i decided to stop seeking medical attention and try to just be healthy.

recently, my husband and i were talking about having kids so i decided it was

my first priority to check on my disease(s). my viral load is over 5 million,

but the good thing is my ANA levels are back to normal.

not trying to throw a pitty party... just details. anyhow, i'm about to

start therapy next week and quite frankly i am scared to death. i am very

private and just feel like i am left to deal with this with my husband.

i guess i'm just reaching out... i hope that there may be someone in my

situation that can let me know what they went through.

i am a bit of a social drinker. i " party " often. dinner parties at my

place are common and i'm worried about the questions.

just looking for some guidance... hopefully there is someone out there i can

relate to.

holly.

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Holly,

I do not have Hep C but my husband does. I have never been much of a drinker

but my husband has drank since he's been 15 years old. He's 49 now. We have a

LOT of friends. All but 2 drink. His biggest fear was how he would handle the

questions and he also didn't want to lose his friends. However, his desire to

live outweighed everything else and he quit the day of his diagnosis, 2 months

ago, and hasn't regretted it in the least. As far as our friends he simply told

them he made the decision to quit drinking. End of story. Of course a few of our

very close friends he gave more details but that's an entirely personal decision

that's up to you. I won't lie to you. We noticed that a couple of people backed

away pretty quick and 1 even told us he wasn't comfortable because Rick didn't

drink anymore. Our closest friends have stayed right by our side. He's just now

getting to where he's fairly comfortable being around other people who are

drinking. He doesn't want others to

feel they have to change because of him. One sugggestion I have for you is to

take up a hobby if you haven't already. Something to occupy your time that you

really like to do. My husband loves to fish and this takes his mind off of

drinking and everything else. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps him from

dinking he can fish everyday if he'd like.

I will keep you in my prayers. It is true that you must quit drinking to

live. You have so much going for you , though. Educate yourself and your husband

about the interferon and tackle the bull by the horns and get it done. I wish

you the best and please let us know how your'e doing. Sincerely,

kathleen byrne <klb28791@...> wrote:

Dear holly

First thing is stop drinking, you are never going to get anywhere if you don't.

You are young so the peg-interferon might help. But the drinking will only

damage the liver more. When I was young I like to party too. But when the side

effect, a two day hangover, out weighted the good times. I stopped. I got my

hepc thru a transfusion in 1987. I wasn't diagnosed until 1998 and I didn't go

thru the testing until 2001. I was not a candiate, depression.

Be honest with your doctor. If you don' t like either one find some one else.

My regular Doctor was great he knew me as a person. The Hep Dr. was only

interested in me as a liver making money off my illness ,this became clear, on

the first visit. He left his patients hanging for hours in his waiting room.

Which is a clear indication, he had no regard for your time, your job etc. He

still wanted to go ahead with the treatment after his teacher , and the head of

the study, both told him with my history of depression, I was not a candidate.

I don't know how long it takes the liver to cleanse itself of alchol, but ask

your doctor. You have your whole life in front of you. Don't do anything to

sabotage your treatment. I have a young friend that went thru the treatment and

was clear she has a beautiful baby girl, who is healthy. Good luck.

holly golightly <lightly_go_holly@...> wrote: hello, all. i am about

to start peg-interferon and ribavirin. i am 30... i was diagnosed about 4

years ago. they were worried at first that i had autoimmune with hepC so my

two lovely doctors (said as sarcastically as possible) decided to play tug of

war with me... " do this " " take this " , " dont' take that " ... the whole routine.

so i decided to stop seeking medical attention and try to just be healthy.

recently, my husband and i were talking about having kids so i decided it was

my first priority to check on my disease(s). my viral load is over 5 million,

but the good thing is my ANA levels are back to normal.

not trying to throw a pitty party... just details. anyhow, i'm about to

start therapy next week and quite frankly i am scared to death. i am very

private and just feel like i am left to deal with this with my husband.

i guess i'm just reaching out... i hope that there may be someone in my

situation that can let me know what they went through.

i am a bit of a social drinker. i " party " often. dinner parties at my

place are common and i'm worried about the questions.

just looking for some guidance... hopefully there is someone out there i can

relate to.

holly.

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hi glen, this is the most simplest exlpanation on this subject that i have read

yet. i know this is meant for jean, but thanks so much for the input. i have

also been asking for such an explanation. my son is new to this illness also if

you do not mind, i will pass this on to my son. we have been getting a mixture

of good news 7 not so good news in these past few days all involving his

situation. my hope & prayers go out to all. thanks again lost in az vicki

JW <jennwhitehead@...> wrote:

TY Glenn

Thank you for the info. I will definatly check out that website.

Jenn

hdhepper1 <grisley4@...> wrote:

Hi

First off...most people will die WITH hep C not FROM it. The rest

of your blood work should show your Viral Load...how much hep C

material is in your blood. Around 15% of those exposed to hep C do

not progress to Chronic disease (infection lasting over 6 months)

and have an Undetectable viral load. Another test will be your

Genotype...which subgroup of hep C you have. Differant genotypes

require differant durations of treatment as some, 1a and 1b, are

more resistant to treatment. I'm sure they have done a Liver

Function Test LFT or Liver Panel already. This shows how well the

liver is functioning. The only test your dr. will really need to

discuss with before it is performed is the Liver Biopsy. This is

the Gold Standard for diagnosing liver damage. Many drs. are doing

other, less invasive tests and some are bypassing it if the patient

has genotype 2 or 3. These respond well to treatment and the drs.

save the patient the cost and worry regarding the biopsy.

A good website to find information is: www.hcvadvocate.org

They lots of Fact Sheets, Patient Guides and other good stuff to

read.

Take Care, Glenn

>

> Hi Group

>

> I am looking for info about HepC. Any help that anyone can provide

> would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know where to start,

but

> with the little bit of info I have gotten from the internet, and

even

> less from a Dr, this scares the heck outta me.

>

> The way the HepC was found is ... I have psoriasis (known as P

from

> now on -- skin disease), and am on a study. They do regular blood

> work as part of the study to make sure that it isn't doing

anything

> inside. Then back in Dec I had another app't and more blood work.

> Then mid Jan I get a call from the Dermatologist saying that I had

an

> app't w/ a hematologist in 2 wks. Was sent to the hematologist cuz

my

> white blood count was high (the lymphatic). The hematologist then

ran

> a ton of blood work to see if able to find what was going on. My

next

> app't in Feb brought the bomb … the white count is back

to " normal " ,

> but the HepC is positive. The blood work was re-run to make sure,

> possible false positive … not the case. The next round of blood

work

> came back with the same answer … HepC positive. I think the part

that

> scares me most is that there is no final answer … more blood work

is

> being run, and will hopefully get some answer from that in 4-6

wks.

> In the mean time, the hematologist says he doesn't need to see me

cuz

> this is not his thing. Sooooo … now I don't know what the next

step

> will be. I am set to see my family doc on Tues, but it is more

just

> to make sure he is up to speed as to what is going on. Not sure if

he

> is even aware.

>

> I haven't had any symptoms that I can pin point. Itchy all the

time

> from the P, so wouldn't say that the HepC is the cause of the

itchy.

> Jaundice … nope … not yellow. Loss of appetite … nope … gaining

> weight (unfortunately). Fatigue … I work nights – I work 4:30pm

till

> 3:00am, and get only a few hrs (maybe 5-7hr) of sleep each

> night/morning.

>

> As for the " how " , we have yet to figure this out. None of the

doc's

> yet, or myself can figure how or when I was infected. The options

I

> was given to pick from is:

> 1) Piercing – none

> 2) Tattoos – none

> 3) Dirty drug needles – never touched drugs that

weren't

> indented for me

> 4) Sex – nope

> 5) Blood transfusion – this is the only 1 that I think

may be

> true, as I was 2 mths preemie when I was born, and who only knows

> what they did in those 2 months when in hospital – I was born

before

> they started testing the blood for HepC.

>

> This is just a bit about me. Thank you for listening/reading. Any

> help, or support, would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Jenn Whitehead

>

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Hello Jean

Welcome to the group. For many, discovering we have hep c is a bolt out of

the blue. It is often detected in a routine blood test for something totally

unrelated as it was for me. And yes, it was a bit of a shock as I had no

symptoms. I gathered most of my information from the internet and after a while

it all sank in. After it was discovered I had tests to find out what my viral

load and genotype was. This is done to decide the course of treatment. I also

had a liver biopsy to determine the extent of liver damage. Before going on tx

I let all of the information sink in and read about the sides. I have just had

shot 12 and am coping OK.

Jenn Whitehead <jennwhitehead@...> wrote:

Hi Group

I am looking for info about HepC. Any help that anyone can provide

would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know where to start, but

with the little bit of info I have gotten from the internet, and even

less from a Dr, this scares the heck outta me.

The way the HepC was found is ... I have psoriasis (known as P from

now on -- skin disease), and am on a study. They do regular blood

work as part of the study to make sure that it isn't doing anything

inside. Then back in Dec I had another app't and more blood work.

Then mid Jan I get a call from the Dermatologist saying that I had an

app't w/ a hematologist in 2 wks. Was sent to the hematologist cuz my

white blood count was high (the lymphatic). The hematologist then ran

a ton of blood work to see if able to find what was going on. My next

app't in Feb brought the bomb … the white count is back to " normal " ,

but the HepC is positive. The blood work was re-run to make sure,

possible false positive … not the case. The next round of blood work

came back with the same answer … HepC positive. I think the part that

scares me most is that there is no final answer … more blood work is

being run, and will hopefully get some answer from that in 4-6 wks.

In the mean time, the hematologist says he doesn't need to see me cuz

this is not his thing. Sooooo … now I don't know what the next step

will be. I am set to see my family doc on Tues, but it is more just

to make sure he is up to speed as to what is going on. Not sure if he

is even aware.

I haven't had any symptoms that I can pin point. Itchy all the time

from the P, so wouldn't say that the HepC is the cause of the itchy.

Jaundice … nope … not yellow. Loss of appetite … nope … gaining

weight (unfortunately). Fatigue … I work nights – I work 4:30pm till

3:00am, and get only a few hrs (maybe 5-7hr) of sleep each

night/morning.

As for the " how " , we have yet to figure this out. None of the doc's

yet, or myself can figure how or when I was infected. The options I

was given to pick from is:

1) Piercing – none

2) Tattoos – none

3) Dirty drug needles – never touched drugs that weren't

indented for me

4) Sex – nope

5) Blood transfusion – this is the only 1 that I think may be

true, as I was 2 mths preemie when I was born, and who only knows

what they did in those 2 months when in hospital – I was born before

they started testing the blood for HepC.

This is just a bit about me. Thank you for listening/reading. Any

help, or support, would be greatly appreciated.

Jenn Whitehead

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Hi beth

Thanks for the welcome. Glad to hear that you are dealing w/ treatment. I

guess I will find out more on Tues when I see my doc (or at least I hope I find

out more). I will keep everyone posted.

Jenn

elisabeth Irwin <treechange55@...> wrote:

Hello Jean

Welcome to the group. For many, discovering we have hep c is a bolt out of the

blue. It is often detected in a routine blood test for something totally

unrelated as it was for me. And yes, it was a bit of a shock as I had no

symptoms. I gathered most of my information from the internet and after a while

it all sank in. After it was discovered I had tests to find out what my viral

load and genotype was. This is done to decide the course of treatment. I also

had a liver biopsy to determine the extent of liver damage. Before going on tx I

let all of the information sink in and read about the sides. I have just had

shot 12 and am coping OK.

Jenn Whitehead <jennwhitehead@...> wrote:

Hi Group

I am looking for info about HepC. Any help that anyone can provide

would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know where to start, but

with the little bit of info I have gotten from the internet, and even

less from a Dr, this scares the heck outta me.

The way the HepC was found is ... I have psoriasis (known as P from

now on -- skin disease), and am on a study. They do regular blood

work as part of the study to make sure that it isn't doing anything

inside. Then back in Dec I had another app't and more blood work.

Then mid Jan I get a call from the Dermatologist saying that I had an

app't w/ a hematologist in 2 wks. Was sent to the hematologist cuz my

white blood count was high (the lymphatic). The hematologist then ran

a ton of blood work to see if able to find what was going on. My next

app't in Feb brought the bomb … the white count is back to " normal " ,

but the HepC is positive. The blood work was re-run to make sure,

possible false positive … not the case. The next round of blood work

came back with the same answer … HepC positive. I think the part that

scares me most is that there is no final answer … more blood work is

being run, and will hopefully get some answer from that in 4-6 wks.

In the mean time, the hematologist says he doesn't need to see me cuz

this is not his thing. Sooooo … now I don't know what the next step

will be. I am set to see my family doc on Tues, but it is more just

to make sure he is up to speed as to what is going on. Not sure if he

is even aware.

I haven't had any symptoms that I can pin point. Itchy all the time

from the P, so wouldn't say that the HepC is the cause of the itchy.

Jaundice … nope … not yellow. Loss of appetite … nope … gaining

weight (unfortunately). Fatigue … I work nights – I work 4:30pm till

3:00am, and get only a few hrs (maybe 5-7hr) of sleep each

night/morning.

As for the " how " , we have yet to figure this out. None of the doc's

yet, or myself can figure how or when I was infected. The options I

was given to pick from is:

1) Piercing – none

2) Tattoos – none

3) Dirty drug needles – never touched drugs that weren't

indented for me

4) Sex – nope

5) Blood transfusion – this is the only 1 that I think may be

true, as I was 2 mths preemie when I was born, and who only knows

what they did in those 2 months when in hospital – I was born before

they started testing the blood for HepC.

This is just a bit about me. Thank you for listening/reading. Any

help, or support, would be greatly appreciated.

Jenn Whitehead

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I will find out more on Wednesday. Hopefully this tx is working and my viral

load has gone down

JW <jennwhitehead@...> wrote: Hi beth

Thanks for the welcome. Glad to hear that you are dealing w/ treatment. I guess

I will find out more on Tues when I see my doc (or at least I hope I find out

more). I will keep everyone posted.

Jenn

elisabeth Irwin <treechange55@...> wrote:

Hello Jean

Welcome to the group. For many, discovering we have hep c is a bolt out of the

blue. It is often detected in a routine blood test for something totally

unrelated as it was for me. And yes, it was a bit of a shock as I had no

symptoms. I gathered most of my information from the internet and after a while

it all sank in. After it was discovered I had tests to find out what my viral

load and genotype was. This is done to decide the course of treatment. I also

had a liver biopsy to determine the extent of liver damage. Before going on tx I

let all of the information sink in and read about the sides. I have just had

shot 12 and am coping OK.

Jenn Whitehead <jennwhitehead@...> wrote:

Hi Group

I am looking for info about HepC. Any help that anyone can provide

would be greatly appreciated. I don't even know where to start, but

with the little bit of info I have gotten from the internet, and even

less from a Dr, this scares the heck outta me.

The way the HepC was found is ... I have psoriasis (known as P from

now on -- skin disease), and am on a study. They do regular blood

work as part of the study to make sure that it isn't doing anything

inside. Then back in Dec I had another app't and more blood work.

Then mid Jan I get a call from the Dermatologist saying that I had an

app't w/ a hematologist in 2 wks. Was sent to the hematologist cuz my

white blood count was high (the lymphatic). The hematologist then ran

a ton of blood work to see if able to find what was going on. My next

app't in Feb brought the bomb … the white count is back to " normal " ,

but the HepC is positive. The blood work was re-run to make sure,

possible false positive … not the case. The next round of blood work

came back with the same answer … HepC positive. I think the part that

scares me most is that there is no final answer … more blood work is

being run, and will hopefully get some answer from that in 4-6 wks.

In the mean time, the hematologist says he doesn't need to see me cuz

this is not his thing. Sooooo … now I don't know what the next step

will be. I am set to see my family doc on Tues, but it is more just

to make sure he is up to speed as to what is going on. Not sure if he

is even aware.

I haven't had any symptoms that I can pin point. Itchy all the time

from the P, so wouldn't say that the HepC is the cause of the itchy.

Jaundice … nope … not yellow. Loss of appetite … nope … gaining

weight (unfortunately). Fatigue … I work nights – I work 4:30pm till

3:00am, and get only a few hrs (maybe 5-7hr) of sleep each

night/morning.

As for the " how " , we have yet to figure this out. None of the doc's

yet, or myself can figure how or when I was infected. The options I

was given to pick from is:

1) Piercing – none

2) Tattoos – none

3) Dirty drug needles – never touched drugs that weren't

indented for me

4) Sex – nope

5) Blood transfusion – this is the only 1 that I think may be

true, as I was 2 mths preemie when I was born, and who only knows

what they did in those 2 months when in hospital – I was born before

they started testing the blood for HepC.

This is just a bit about me. Thank you for listening/reading. Any

help, or support, would be greatly appreciated.

Jenn Whitehead

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So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

I originally heard about bone stimulating devices and went to ebay, bid on a

mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini Bone Growth

Stimulator.

Can I use this for Beck-like health promotion? Or should I put it back on ebay

to sell?

I HSV2 and would love to stop it.

Thanks,

Amber

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Running one electrode along the length of the spine might be worth a try...if that works, you would sure to hit the root of the virus.Regards... From: no_reply Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:57:15 +0000Subject: Re: Newbie

it can kill it anytime. it follows the nerve back to the spine and finds any viruses there. So once you treat one area where there was an outbreak then there should not be more of them in that area. if there's an outbreak it's easier to pinpoint the exact spot.

bG

> > > >

> > > > So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

> > > > I originally heard about bone stimulating devices and went to ebay, bid on a mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini Bone Growth Stimulator.

> > > >

> > > > Can I use this for Beck-like health promotion? Or should I put it back on ebay to sell?

> > > >

> > > > I HSV2 and would love to stop it.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > Amber

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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take a look at anatomy map of nervous system so you are sure where they go. you

don't want to dilute the charge over too wide an area.

bG

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> > > > >

>

> > > > > So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

>

> > > > > I originally heard about bone stimulating devices and went to ebay,

bid on a mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini Bone

Growth Stimulator.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Can I use this for Beck-like health promotion? Or should I put it back

on ebay to sell?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I HSV2 and would love to stop it.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Thanks,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Amber

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> > > > >

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> > > >

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take a look at anatomy map of nervous system so you are sure where they go. you

don't want to dilute the charge over too wide an area.

bG

>

> > > > >

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> > > > > So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

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bid on a mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini Bone

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[Guest guest]

Please post your results over a long period, like years. we are closing in on

herpes and have several very encouraging report. The trouble is people forget

and time goes by. They think they have cured it and maybe they have, but if we

do not hear back, no one will know. Even if you have cured it, we need at least

yearly reports showing it is gone, or that it came back and if so, did it return

to the same spots or new areas? By having long-term reports we can know if we

nailed it or not.

bG

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> > > > > > > So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

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> > > > > > > I originally heard about bone stimulating devices and went to

ebay, bid on a mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini

Bone Growth Stimulator.

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> > > > > > > Can I use this for Beck-like health promotion? Or should I put it

back on ebay to sell?

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[Guest guest]

be sure to unplug the extension cord before you cut the ends. ok, just

kidding, but in the excitement...I myself have done stupider things. Good luck

with it.

bG

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> > > > > > > > > So this is my day off. I have a bit of time to research this.

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I originally heard about bone stimulating devices and went to

ebay, bid on a mini version and unfortunately won. Its a Biotech BHS Mini

Bone Growth Stimulator.

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it back on ebay to sell?

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