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[Guest guest]

Thank you, facts, this is a great report, and shows you did a conscientious job.

at any point did you put an electrode on an outbreak area and the point of nerve

insertion at the other end of the nerve which is located at the outbreak site?

I will file this report in our herpes files.

As experiment, try telling each " skeptic " on 3 different occasions that it

worked. Don't go into long-winded story, just a sentence or two and drop it. I

always wonder if it is just a mental count that is going on, and if it matters

that the same person says it 3 times. It might not work, but interesting to

experiment with their heads rather than just get butted by them, (right?)

hah

bG

>

> MICROELECTRICITY GERMKILLER DISCUSSION GROUP

>

> RESEARCH REPORT FORM

>

>

> RESEARCH FORM--please use for reporting your results. None of this is

> mandatory, but it would help us if you would please fill in as much as

> you can. Please file one of these every month or two during treatment,

> then once a year for a few years once the problem has cleared up so we

> have the followup information.

>

> SUBJECT INFO

>

> Q1: Age

> A: 45

> Q2: Illness and diagnosis if any

> A: genital herpes

> Q3: Electrical treatment problems: electrical implants, pacemakers, etc

> A: none

>

> EXPERIMENTAL MICROELECTRICITY

>

> Q4: What device was used?

> A: constant DC current and voltage power supply

> Q5: How many minutes per session, how many sessions per day?

> A: varied between 10-30min using usually 1 2 sessions

> Q6: How long did treatment last (days, weeks, months)?

> A: maybe a month with maybe a treatment everyday the first week and less the

next and even fewer the latter week.

> Q7: Placement of electrodes?

> A: backs of knees, either side of crotch, bottom of feet, wrists, inner

elbows, either side of neck along jawline, armpits

> Q8: How often were electrodes reversed?

> A: rarely

>

> MEDICAL TREATMENT

>

> Q9: What medications or other treatment currently?

> A: acyclovir when a break out was eminent but have not used in many months

now

> Q10: If none, what was proposed by doctor or other provider?

> A:

> Q11: What treatment in the past?

> A: keep any break outs cleaned and dry, swab with tea tree oil

> Q12: Any treatment effective so far?

> A: tea tree oil drys the blisters up so they can then heal and acyclovir

would stop the virus from continuing its current aggravation when broken out.

> Q13: Any serious side effects to other treatments?

> A: none

>

> RESULTS:

> a. Symptoms (better, worse, unchanged)

> A: I think the virus has been destroyed or made to leave my body. I am clean

> b. Signs (medical tests such as blood tests, etc) better, worse, unchanged

> A: no tests done since treatment applied

> c. Electrical treatment side effects, phys, mental

> A: when using on the neck along jawline the feeling of vertigo would happen

due to the current and/or voltage set too high.

> d. What do you see as advantages/drawbacks over other treatments?

> A: advantage is it cures the problem instead of prolonging it and allowing it

to fester or become stronger in resisting future treatments

> e. Overall opinion of the treatment, any benefits besides disease treatment?

> A: It is the best kept secret I have discovered

> f. Would you recommend it to others?

> A: I have and get met with disbelief and outright arrogance as if I don't know

that I have cured what ailed me.

> g. Lessons learned for benefit of next user of treatment:

> A: If you can afford one, get a constant DC voltage and current power supply

that you can set up to limit the current and voltage output. This allows you to

safely apply the treatment and never need to buy batteries. Although it does

restrict you using it to at home because those power supplies can weigh up to 15

or 20 pounds and their size is or rather mine is approx. 10 " h x 5 " w x 9 " depth

> h. Anything to add, people who helped, etc:

>

[Guest guest]

what i mean by " other end of nerve " is the one end of nerve is where the

outbreak occurs and has herpes virus there. But...the virus lives inside the

whole nerve. So putting the second electrode at the other end of the nerve, say

the spinal cord where that nerve is supposed to connect, would cause current to

follow along the length of the entire nerve and remove the virus completely and

forever from that particular nerve. This theory of mine agrees with the

electrical conductivity of nerves. That is what they are designed to do. Drugs

do not enter nerves very well. Electricity finds it a second home, so to

speak...

bG

> >

> > MICROELECTRICITY GERMKILLER DISCUSSION GROUP

> >

> > RESEARCH REPORT FORM

> >

> >

> > RESEARCH FORM--please use for reporting your results. None of this is

> > mandatory, but it would help us if you would please fill in as much as

> > you can. Please file one of these every month or two during treatment,

> > then once a year for a few years once the problem has cleared up so we

> > have the followup information.

> >

> > SUBJECT INFO

> >

> > Q1: Age

> > A: 45

> > Q2: Illness and diagnosis if any

> > A: genital herpes

> > Q3: Electrical treatment problems: electrical implants, pacemakers, etc

> > A: none

> >

> > EXPERIMENTAL MICROELECTRICITY

> >

> > Q4: What device was used?

> > A: constant DC current and voltage power supply

> > Q5: How many minutes per session, how many sessions per day?

> > A: varied between 10-30min using usually 1 2 sessions

> > Q6: How long did treatment last (days, weeks, months)?

> > A: maybe a month with maybe a treatment everyday the first week and less

the next and even fewer the latter week.

> > Q7: Placement of electrodes?

> > A: backs of knees, either side of crotch, bottom of feet, wrists, inner

elbows, either side of neck along jawline, armpits

> > Q8: How often were electrodes reversed?

> > A: rarely

> >

> > MEDICAL TREATMENT

> >

> > Q9: What medications or other treatment currently?

> > A: acyclovir when a break out was eminent but have not used in many months

now

> > Q10: If none, what was proposed by doctor or other provider?

> > A:

> > Q11: What treatment in the past?

> > A: keep any break outs cleaned and dry, swab with tea tree oil

> > Q12: Any treatment effective so far?

> > A: tea tree oil drys the blisters up so they can then heal and acyclovir

would stop the virus from continuing its current aggravation when broken out.

> > Q13: Any serious side effects to other treatments?

> > A: none

> >

> > RESULTS:

> > a. Symptoms (better, worse, unchanged)

> > A: I think the virus has been destroyed or made to leave my body. I am

clean

> > b. Signs (medical tests such as blood tests, etc) better, worse, unchanged

> > A: no tests done since treatment applied

> > c. Electrical treatment side effects, phys, mental

> > A: when using on the neck along jawline the feeling of vertigo would happen

due to the current and/or voltage set too high.

> > d. What do you see as advantages/drawbacks over other treatments?

> > A: advantage is it cures the problem instead of prolonging it and allowing

it to fester or become stronger in resisting future treatments

> > e. Overall opinion of the treatment, any benefits besides disease

treatment?

> > A: It is the best kept secret I have discovered

> > f. Would you recommend it to others?

> > A: I have and get met with disbelief and outright arrogance as if I don't

know that I have cured what ailed me.

> > g. Lessons learned for benefit of next user of treatment:

> > A: If you can afford one, get a constant DC voltage and current power supply

that you can set up to limit the current and voltage output. This allows you to

safely apply the treatment and never need to buy batteries. Although it does

restrict you using it to at home because those power supplies can weigh up to 15

or 20 pounds and their size is or rather mine is approx. 10 " h x 5 " w x 9 " depth

> > h. Anything to add, people who helped, etc:

> >

>

[Guest guest]

your results suggest you could be rid of it or nearly so. but it is also

possible you have cleared and removed the immune stresses to where the herpes is

on high aleart and waiting for the immune system to get burdened again at which

time it can bloom out once more.

either way, you are going to be better off, in my layman's opinion. But if you

do get future blooms of this virus, they try the end-to-end nerve electrifying

trick, as I think that could nail it for you. cheers me up to hear of your

successes and I hope others having this bug will follow your example.

remember folks this person is a bit of an expert so used a device, but your

batteries will work fine as well. Be sure to put a meter into the thing if you

want real controls. Add baking soda to final rinse and meter it so you know

your power levels if you are using this longer-term. shoot for between .3-.7mA

on the meter, adjust by baking soda addition-or-subtraction from final rinse

water. You can do it!

bG

> > >

> > > MICROELECTRICITY GERMKILLER DISCUSSION GROUP

> > >

> > > RESEARCH REPORT FORM

> > >

> > >

> > > RESEARCH FORM--please use for reporting your results. None of this is

> > > mandatory, but it would help us if you would please fill in as much as

> > > you can. Please file one of these every month or two during treatment,

> > > then once a year for a few years once the problem has cleared up so we

> > > have the followup information.

> > >

> > > SUBJECT INFO

> > >

> > > Q1: Age

> > > A: 45

> > > Q2: Illness and diagnosis if any

> > > A: genital herpes

> > > Q3: Electrical treatment problems: electrical implants, pacemakers, etc

> > > A: none

> > >

> > > EXPERIMENTAL MICROELECTRICITY

> > >

> > > Q4: What device was used?

> > > A: constant DC current and voltage power supply

> > > Q5: How many minutes per session, how many sessions per day?

> > > A: varied between 10-30min using usually 1 2 sessions

> > > Q6: How long did treatment last (days, weeks, months)?

> > > A: maybe a month with maybe a treatment everyday the first week and less

the next and even fewer the latter week.

> > > Q7: Placement of electrodes?

> > > A: backs of knees, either side of crotch, bottom of feet, wrists, inner

elbows, either side of neck along jawline, armpits

> > > Q8: How often were electrodes reversed?

> > > A: rarely

> > >

> > > MEDICAL TREATMENT

> > >

> > > Q9: What medications or other treatment currently?

> > > A: acyclovir when a break out was eminent but have not used in many

months now

> > > Q10: If none, what was proposed by doctor or other provider?

> > > A:

> > > Q11: What treatment in the past?

> > > A: keep any break outs cleaned and dry, swab with tea tree oil

> > > Q12: Any treatment effective so far?

> > > A: tea tree oil drys the blisters up so they can then heal and acyclovir

would stop the virus from continuing its current aggravation when broken out.

> > > Q13: Any serious side effects to other treatments?

> > > A: none

> > >

> > > RESULTS:

> > > a. Symptoms (better, worse, unchanged)

> > > A: I think the virus has been destroyed or made to leave my body. I am

clean

> > > b. Signs (medical tests such as blood tests, etc) better, worse,

unchanged

> > > A: no tests done since treatment applied

> > > c. Electrical treatment side effects, phys, mental

> > > A: when using on the neck along jawline the feeling of vertigo would

happen due to the current and/or voltage set too high.

> > > d. What do you see as advantages/drawbacks over other treatments?

> > > A: advantage is it cures the problem instead of prolonging it and allowing

it to fester or become stronger in resisting future treatments

> > > e. Overall opinion of the treatment, any benefits besides disease

treatment?

> > > A: It is the best kept secret I have discovered

> > > f. Would you recommend it to others?

> > > A: I have and get met with disbelief and outright arrogance as if I don't

know that I have cured what ailed me.

> > > g. Lessons learned for benefit of next user of treatment:

> > > A: If you can afford one, get a constant DC voltage and current power

supply that you can set up to limit the current and voltage output. This allows

you to safely apply the treatment and never need to buy batteries. Although it

does restrict you using it to at home because those power supplies can weigh up

to 15 or 20 pounds and their size is or rather mine is approx. 10 " h x 5 " w x

9 " depth

> > > h. Anything to add, people who helped, etc:

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Fliss:

By just looking at your results it looks like the FT3 is certainly being

converted. I would think you may feel a bit hyper with a TSH at 0.02. Most

people feel good at about 1.0 TSH. So, if you are feeling a bit hyper, yes, I

would reduce your NT to 2.5 grains. Can you tell us how you FEEL?

Cheers,

JOT

> These are my new results, can someone tell me if the higher free t3 means I am

hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I am currently on 3 grains of

ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??

> TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)

> Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)

> Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)

[Guest guest]

Hi FlissThe higher fT3 definitely means you are hyper and yes, lower your dose. Your TSH will always be suppressed on ANY T3 containing thyroid hormone so that is not a reliable marker, but if you feel hyper and have the symptoms which correlate under our main page http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/hypert_signs_symptoms.php then you know to lower your dose.LoveJacquie> > These are my new results, can someone tell me if the higher free t3 means I am hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I am currently on 3 grains of ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??> > TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)> > Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)> > Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)>

[Guest guest]

Fliss, can you tell us whether you took any T3 on the morning

you had your blood drawn. I ask because T3, being the active thyroid hormone

and with a half life of two days in humans, peaks in the blood between 2 to 4

hours after taking it and if you had your blood drawn during that time, you

would have got a flawed reading, showing your free T3 as high, or above the

range. We always advise members not to take any thyroid hormone the day they

have their thyroid function tests done and to take it directly after the test.

If you are not having symptoms of hyperthyroidism (palpitations,

feeling spaced, out, dizzy, sweating and generally some hyperthyroid symptoms)

then I wouldn't worry. It is a fact that T3 can give high peaks in the blood,

but this is expected and this doesn't last long.

If you are getting the above symptoms, they drop your dose of

Erfa by half a grain and see if that helps.

Luv - Sheila

These are my new results, can someone tell me

if the higher free t3 means I am hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I

am currently on 3 grains of ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??

TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)

Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)

Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)

Thanks

Fliss

[Guest guest]

How do you FEEL? Are your adrenals treated? How is iron, B12 etc? Being low in

any of these can cause Free T3 to appear excellent, but it isn't actually

getting to the cells and so a person doesn't feel any better.

Also a person with thyroid resistance for example may only feel better when T3

is above range.

If you are feeling well (but a bit hyper) on the other hand, then you may need

to reduce slightly.

[Guest guest]

I disagree Jacquie. When people are taking T3 either synthetic

T3 or natural thyroid extract, their TSH is nearly always suppressed. It is

suppressed because there is no need for the pituitary gland to secrete TSH as

it recognises that there is sufficient thyroid hormone in the blood. TSH is

only secreted when the blood levels of TH look low. It also depends on whether

or not Fliss took T3 on the morning of the blood draw or not.

We are not medically qualified to tell our members whether they

should or should not lower their dose. We can ask them questions, but need to

wait for answers to come back as these could give us some clue as to what is

happening.

Sheila

Hi Fliss

The higher fT3 definitely means you are hyper and yes, lower

your dose. Your TSH will always be suppressed on ANY T3 containing

thyroid hormone so that is not a reliable marker, but if you feel hyper and

have the symptoms which correlate under our main page http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/hypert_signs_symptoms.php

then you know to lower your dose.

Love

Jacquie

> > These are my new results, can someone tell me if the higher free t3

means I am hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I am currently on 3

grains of ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??

> > TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)

> > Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)

> > Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry JOT I have to disagree with the idea that 0.02 is a too low TSH. For some people we can only achieve any sense of well being with a very suppressed TSH. I need my TSH to be 0.02 to feel well. Dr Toft even noted this in his book on hypothyroidism for patients. I've found the focus is better placed on the FT4 & FT3 results. For me I have found it is the FT3 result that counts & how I am feeling -signs and symptoms of under or over!

Hope you don't minds me saying......

Ange

xx

-- Re: RESULTS

Hi Fliss:By just looking at your results it looks like the FT3 is certainly being converted. I would think you may feel a bit hyper with a TSH at 0.02. Most people feel good at about 1.0 TSH. So, if you are feeling a bit hyper, yes, I would reduce your NT to 2.5 grains. Can you tell us how you FEEL?Cheers,JOT> These are my new results, can someone tell me if the higher free t3 means I am hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I am currently on 3 grains of ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??> TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)> Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)> Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)

[Guest guest]

I personally would go by how your feel and forget the numbers.......HOW DO YOU FEEL? sALLY XX

I would think you may feel a bit hyper with a TSH at 0.02. Most people feel good at about 1.0 TSH. So, if you are feeling a bit hyper, yes, I would reduce your NT to 2.5 grains. Can you tell us how you FEEL?> These are my new results, can someone tell me if the higher free t3 means I am hyer now and need to lower my dose please? I am currently on 3 grains of ERFA..thinking of trying 2.5 grains??> TSH: <0.02 (0.27-4.20)> Free T4; `17.1 (12.0-22.0)> Free T3; 7.9 (3.9-6.7)

[Guest guest]

Yes I agree with this too. when you are taking supplements for your thyroid hormone you WILL have suppressed TSH to feel better. Ignore the TSH as Ange has said and concentrate on the other two hormone levels FT4 and FT3 and these should be up there at the high end or even slightly higher than the 'range' levels even.....the main thing is that you FEEL BETTER and SYMPTOMS start to disappear, otherwise you remain hypothyroid. Sally xx

I need my TSH to be 0.02 to feel well. Dr Toft even noted this in his book on hypothyroidism for patients. I've found the focus is better placed on the FT4 & FT3 results. For me I have found it is the FT3 result that counts & how I am feeling -signs and symptoms of under or over!

By just looking at your results it looks like the FT3 is certainly being converted. I would think you may feel a bit hyper with a TSH at 0.02. Most people feel good at about 1.0 TSH. So, if you are feeling a bit hyper, yes, I would reduce your NT to 2.5 grains. Can you tell us how you FEEL?

[Guest guest]

Hi folks Can I jump in here and ask your thoughts on the results below. (Not mine) Thanks Jaki TSH 16.4 (0.5 - 19.0) HFree T4 10 (10 - 19) Borderline LowFree T3 3.7 (3.5 - 6.5) Borderline Low Anti-Thyroglobulin 190 (<60)Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase 588 (<60) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you are taking supplements for your thyroid hormone you WILL have suppressed TSH to feel better.

Ignore the TSH as Ange has said and concentrate on the other two hormone levels FT4 and FT3 and these should be up there at the high end or even slightly higher than the 'range' levels even.....the main thing is that you FEEL BETTER and SYMPTOMS start to disappear, otherwise you remain hypothyroid. Sally xx

I need my TSH to be 0.02 to feel well. Dr Toft even noted this in his book on hypothyroidism for patients. I've found the focus is better placed on the FT4 & FT3 results. For me I have found it is the FT3 result that counts & how I am feeling -signs and symptoms of under or over!

[Guest guest]

Jaki,

How are you functioning at all?

Golly you are hypothyroid......are you taking anything at all and how do you feel?

sally xx

Hi folks

Can I jump in here and ask your thoughts on the results below. (Not mine)

Thanks Jaki

TSH 16.4 (0.5 - 19.0) H

Free T4 10 (10 - 19) Borderline Low

Free T3 3.7 (3.5 - 6.5) Borderline Low

Anti-Thyroglobulin 190 (<60)

Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase 588 (<60)

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[Guest guest]

Sally please note below (Not mine) thankfully. These results are my friend's who lives in Oz who got a rushed appointment with her Endo yesterday and was eventually given Thyroxine 100mcg. TFT's are to be repeated in 4 weeks

time. Understand TSH FT4 results but FT3 and Anti thyroglobulin and Anti thyroid peroxidase need help with. Has had fluctuating TFT's since 09 and has had symptoms of hypothyroidism at times. Been laid up with a virus recently and been putting symptoms down to this until yesterday. My thoughts has been that "the virus may have been masking ever increasing hypo symptoms? Can't answer how she is functioning for her Sally but can forward any info you can offer ...Thanks

Jaki..

Jaki,

How are you functioning at all?

Golly you are hypothyroid......are you taking anything at all and how do you feel?

sally xx

Hi folks

Can I jump in here and ask your thoughts on the results below. (Not mine)

Thanks Jaki

TSH 16.4 (0.5 - 19.0) H

Free T4 10 (10 - 19) Borderline Low

Free T3 3.7 (3.5 - 6.5) Borderline Low

Anti-Thyroglobulin 190 (<60)

Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase 588 (<60)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jaki,

OK I understand. No problem.

Well she has it seems been hypothyroid for a while. whitout doubt a viral infection will exacerbate the problem she has. However, she is at greater risk of any infections with low thyroid and low adrenal function.....Therefore I would personally support my adrenal glands immediately before she increased her thyroxine even further. It may even benefit her to lower her thyroid supplement dose for a week or two and introduce the adrenal support adn then increase the thyroid supplement back to its previous dose.

When the adrenals are supported they will allow the body to use the thyroid hormone more effectively. Some people have found they needed to reduce their thyroid suppement once they had more healthy adrenals and supported adrenals.

The fact is her FT3 is low just as her FT4 is low....she should watch this figure and her symptoms of course. If the figure rises that is good but if not then it may be that she requires T3 supplement also/instead of.

Thyroglobulin is a protein which allows the thyroid hormone s to be stored within the thyroid cells before being released into the blood circultion. She has anti bodies to these proteins. This is seen in Hashimotos disease.

TPO or Thyroid peroxidase is an enzyme as the name suggests. This enzyme is made in the thyroid gland and is found in the thyroid follicle cells. It is an important enzyme relating to the production of thyroid hormones. In the thyroid follicle cells it converts the T4 to T3. Obviously she has antibodies here too. This suggests she has a thyroiditis...thyroiditis is showing an inflammatory response to some 'stressor or injury' ; basically the cells of the thyroid gland have been hit and her immune system has made antibodies accordingly. Thyroid autoimmune disorder.

The treatment for all low thyroid function is much the same. at least now she is getting some treatment that is a start; lets hope she feels some improvement.

I hope this helps in some way.

Sally xx

FT3 and Anti thyroglobulin and Anti thyroid peroxidase need help with.

Been laid up with a virus recently and been putting symptoms down to this until yesterday.

My thoughts has been that "the virus may have been masking ever increasing hypo symptoms?

TSH 16.4 (0.5 - 19.0) H

Free T4 10 (10 - 19) Borderline Low

Free T3 3.7 (3.5 - 6.5) Borderline Low

Anti-Thyroglobulin 190 (<60)

Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase 588 (<60)

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[Guest guest]

Sally thanks very much. Great info which has helped a lot to understand.I'll email this off to her right away. Jaki Well she has it seems been hypothyroid for a while. without doubt a viral infection will exacerbate the problem she has. However, she is at greater risk of any infections with low thyroid and low adrenal function.....Therefore I would personally support my adrenal glands immediately before she increased her thyroxine even further. It may even benefit her to lower her thyroid supplement dose for a week or two and introduce the adrenal support an then increase

the thyroid supplement back to its previous dose.

When the adrenals are supported they will allow the body to use the thyroid hormone more effectively. Some people have found they needed to reduce their thyroid suppement once they had more healthy adrenals and supported adrenals. The fact is her FT3 is low just as her FT4 is low....she should watch this figure and her symptoms of course. If the figure rises that is good but if not then it may be that she requires T3 supplement also/instead of.

This is seen in Hashimotos disease. I hope this helps in some way. Sally xx

FT3 and Anti thyroglobulin and Anti thyroid peroxidase need help with.

"the virus may have been masking ever increasing hypo symptoms?

TSH 16.4 (0.5 - 19.0) H

Free T4 10 (10 - 19) Borderline Low

Free T3 3.7 (3.5 - 6.5) Borderline Low

Anti-Thyroglobulin 190 (<60)

Anti-Thyroid Peroxidase 588 (<60)

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[Guest guest]

MICROELECTRICITY GERMKILLER DISCUSSION GROUP

RESEARCH REPORT

SUBJECT INFO

Q1: 56

A:

Q2: Illness and diagnosis if any: hiv positive for 24 years.

A:

Q3: Electrical treatment problems: none

A:

EXPERIMENTAL MICROELECTRICITY

Q4: What device was used? Sota silver pulser

A:

Q5: hour-hour and a half, twice daily

A:

Q6: How long did treatment last (days, weeks, months)? approx. 5 weeks.

A:

Q7: Placement of electrodes? wrists, alternating left to right.

A:

Q8: How often were electrodes reversed? not necessary.

A:

MEDICAL TREATMENT

Q9: What medications or other treatment currently? truvada and Issentress; also

an assortment of supplements like Meletonin, Cystene, Tryptophan, Vitamin D3,

DHEA, glutathione, B-12, sometimes C and lysene.

A:

Q10: If none, what was proposed by doctor or other provider?

A:

Q11: What treatment in the past? same, off and on

A:

Q12: Any treatment effective so far? the drugs help, so does the blood

electrification.

A:

Q13: Any serious side effects to other treatments? I think we all know how

hateful the drugs are.

A:

RESULTS:

a. Symptoms: no symptoms

b. Signs: CD4's doubled, from 108 to 204 in four month period, after being

stalled at 100+/- for over a year, and as low as 8 at one time. My CD4's haven't

been this high in five years.

c. No side effects

d. These electromagnetic treatments don't have a downside like the

pharmaceutical approach

e. I've always found pulsing to be effective, to one degree or another, just

not always easy to work in a daily schedule, day after day.

f. Would you recommend it to others? Certainly.

g. It really does work.

h. I would add that as an adjunct to my silver pulsing, I used a Rife machine

for the first time (I posted on the Rife newsgroup already). Honestly, I believe

that it was this that brought about the dramatic results. Unfortunately, I

burned up the fuse holder, using it for hours as I slept, and am waiting to have

it repaired. I also have been on Truvada and Isentriss for a number of years,

but these drugs are loosing their effectiveness as all drugs do over time; my NP

wants me to start new drugs, I'm resistant to that idea, I want to try these

other alternative treatments first. Will post again in November.

K.

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Thanks, , will file this. Good going getting the T-cells up. Lately I

had posted about Silver Sol's tested effects on 7 patients raising their t-cell

counts average 39 percent in 4 months without any meds, so it might be something

to try in combination.

bG

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> MICROELECTRICITY GERMKILLER DISCUSSION GROUP

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> RESEARCH REPORT

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> SUBJECT INFO

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> Q1: 56

> A:

> Q2: Illness and diagnosis if any: hiv positive for 24 years.

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> Q3: Electrical treatment problems: none

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> EXPERIMENTAL MICROELECTRICITY

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> Q4: What device was used? Sota silver pulser

> A:

> Q5: hour-hour and a half, twice daily

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> Q6: How long did treatment last (days, weeks, months)? approx. 5 weeks.

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> Q7: Placement of electrodes? wrists, alternating left to right.

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> Q8: How often were electrodes reversed? not necessary.

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> MEDICAL TREATMENT

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> Q9: What medications or other treatment currently? truvada and Issentress;

also an assortment of supplements like Meletonin, Cystene, Tryptophan, Vitamin

D3, DHEA, glutathione, B-12, sometimes C and lysene.

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> Q10: If none, what was proposed by doctor or other provider?

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> Q11: What treatment in the past? same, off and on

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> Q12: Any treatment effective so far? the drugs help, so does the blood

electrification.

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> Q13: Any serious side effects to other treatments? I think we all know how

hateful the drugs are.

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> RESULTS:

> a. Symptoms: no symptoms

> b. Signs: CD4's doubled, from 108 to 204 in four month period, after being

stalled at 100+/- for over a year, and as low as 8 at one time. My CD4's haven't

been this high in five years.

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> c. No side effects

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> d. These electromagnetic treatments don't have a downside like the

pharmaceutical approach

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> e. I've always found pulsing to be effective, to one degree or another, just

not always easy to work in a daily schedule, day after day.

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> f. Would you recommend it to others? Certainly.

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> g. It really does work.

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> h. I would add that as an adjunct to my silver pulsing, I used a Rife machine

for the first time (I posted on the Rife newsgroup already). Honestly, I believe

that it was this that brought about the dramatic results. Unfortunately, I

burned up the fuse holder, using it for hours as I slept, and am waiting to have

it repaired. I also have been on Truvada and Isentriss for a number of years,

but these drugs are loosing their effectiveness as all drugs do over time; my NP

wants me to start new drugs, I'm resistant to that idea, I want to try these

other alternative treatments first. Will post again in November.

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> K.

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[Guest guest]

Hi < your TSH is to high. it should be around 1.0. is this the only test done.? as it is not an accurate measure. the normal range is now called a reference interval, and it matters where in the interval your resultsare. so if you have other tests done post to the group with the ranges and results so we can advice you. also ask doctor for a TPOab test which looks for autoantibodies which can attack the thyroid and stop it working properly. i was told that i was normal with a TSH of 3.85 but this is wrong as the TSH can be anywhere in the range if you have auto-antibodies. the free T4 and free T3 are more accurate and also a Reverse T3. to check if you are converting the T4 to the active T3. Regards angel.