Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 My medicines are: Hyzar100-25, clonidine 0.1, Synthroid0.002 Lopressor 50mg Aldactone25 It is both legs,but one is much worse.At first I thought it was Shingles..then wondered how Shingles could be on both legs. I do thank you for any insight. Sheilah In hyperaldosteronism , Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote: > > Have to know what meds you are taking. This is not common. Is it > only one leg or both? > > > On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:34 PM, as wrote: > > > Duane-Reade sells a cheap anti-itch spray or lotion. I assume the > > other chain drug stores also do. Get a good cardiologist quickly, at > > your nearest academic medical center, even if you have to travel to > > get there. Sounds like you are doing things quickly, which is good. > > You can't let this slide. > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > I joined this group a few months after my dear friend,Dave Pearson > > > died.He used to send me posts from here when he thought I could > > > benefit.I'm sorry to say,it took him not being in my life that > > > finally got me to join. > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am currently > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed with > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > that I > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling to > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > negative. > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I have > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving me > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor said > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > I live in rural Kentucky,and we don't have the best doctors and > > > medical equipment here.(in spite of what hospital PR likes to > > > claim).So, I always try to research before I go to see them, so I > > can > > > kinda direct them. > > > > > > Any help/advice is appreciated.If I don't stop itching,I'm gonna > > lose > > > my mind...whats left of it,I mean. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sheilah > > > > > > > > > > > May your pressure be low! > > >  > > > > > > CE Grim BS, MS, MD > > High Blood Pressure Consulting > > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology > Medical College of Wisconsin > > Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension. > > Interests: > 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure. > 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood pressure > in human populations. > 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Has your K ever been low? Edema always means you are eating more salt than your kidneys Can get rid of Well almost always When.you push your finger in hard 4 5 sec Does it leave a dimple? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > My medicines are: > > Hyzar100-25, > > clonidine 0.1, > > Synthroid0.002 > > Lopressor 50mg > > Aldactone25 > > It is both legs,but one is much worse.At first I thought it was > Shingles..then wondered how Shingles could be on both legs. > > I do thank you for any insight. > Sheilah > > In hyperaldosteronism , Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> > wrote: > > > > Have to know what meds you are taking. This is not common. Is it > > only one leg or both? > > > > > > On Sep 29, 2008, at 4:34 PM, as wrote: > > > > > Duane-Reade sells a cheap anti-itch spray or lotion. I assume the > > > other chain drug stores also do. Get a good cardiologist quickly, > at > > > your nearest academic medical center, even if you have to travel > to > > > get there. Sounds like you are doing things quickly, which is > good. > > > You can't let this slide. > > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I joined this group a few months after my dear friend,Dave > Pearson > > > > died.He used to send me posts from here when he thought I could > > > > benefit.I'm sorry to say,it took him not being in my life that > > > > finally got me to join. > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > currently > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > with > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > > that I > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > that > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg > swelling to > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > have > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > driving me > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > said > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > > I live in rural Kentucky,and we don't have the best doctors and > > > > medical equipment here.(in spite of what hospital PR likes to > > > > claim).So, I always try to research before I go to see them, so > I > > > can > > > > kinda direct them. > > > > > > > > Any help/advice is appreciated.If I don't stop itching,I'm > gonna > > > lose > > > > my mind...whats left of it,I mean. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sheilah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May your pressure be low! > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > CE Grim BS, MS, MD > > > > High Blood Pressure Consulting > > > > Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology > > Medical College of Wisconsin > > > > Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension. > > > > Interests: > > 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure. > > 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood > pressure > > in human populations. > > 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Life is a uniformly fatal, sexually tramsmitted Disease Dr g Sent from my iPhone On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > Not very quickly...that's how I came to be in this mess to begin > with.But,at least I finally came to my senses.I always lived by > the, " we can't live forever anyway.. " That is true, we can't.But,I do > want to have a better quality of life,so I can live.Not merely exist. > > Thanks > Sheilah > > In hyperaldosteronism , " as " <as99@...> wrote: > > > > Duane-Reade sells a cheap anti-itch spray or lotion. I assume the > > other chain drug stores also do. Get a good cardiologist quickly, at > > your nearest academic medical center, even if you have to travel to > > get there. Sounds like you are doing things quickly, which is good. > > You can't let this slide. > > > ===================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > I joined this group a few months after my dear friend,Dave > Pearson > > > died.He used to send me posts from here when he thought I could > > > benefit.I'm sorry to say,it took him not being in my life that > > > finally got me to join. > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > currently > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > with > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > that I > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > to > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > negative. > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > have > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving > me > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > said > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > I live in rural Kentucky,and we don't have the best doctors and > > > medical equipment here.(in spite of what hospital PR likes to > > > claim).So, I always try to research before I go to see them, so I > can > > > kinda direct them. > > > > > > Any help/advice is appreciated.If I don't stop itching,I'm gonna > lose > > > my mind...whats left of it,I mean. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sheilah > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 HI Sheila wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme itching/ clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of summers ago; i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid disease. turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the Active hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! (IE i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) -- anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did not help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands work so synergistically and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other symtpoms that i had been living with became worse. ] btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. ~*~ my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep and stay asleep conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a lot of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i have not confirmed that myself!_) can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any state but NY or CA (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate website_) -- basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or sugars (or basically any fun stuff and " stress management " i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. -- turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition -and glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and helping the adrenals to heal. the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the body, and keep allergies " under control. -Carol BTW< i have swelling in my legs: note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " but reading even further you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients --and adrenal fatigue patietns! i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be helping water go to the right places ( i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am currently > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed with > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching that I > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling to > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > negative. > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I have > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving me > mad.Literally. > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor said > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good at listening to me. Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk Sheilah In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > HI Sheila > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme itching/ > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > summers ago; > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid disease. > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the Active > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! (IE > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > -- > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did not > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands work > so synergistically > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other symtpoms > that i had been living with became worse. ] > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > ~*~ > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep and > stay asleep > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a lot > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any state > but NY or CA > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate website_) > > -- > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > and " stress management " > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > -- > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - and > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > helping the adrenals to heal. > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the body, > and keep allergies " under control. > > -Carol > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > but reading even further > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be helping > water go to the right places ( > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > currently > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > with > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching that > I > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling to > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > negative. > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > have > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving > me > > mad.Literally. > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor said > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis IMHO Beware of health care providers Selling this Sent from my iPhone CE Grim MS MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc Sharedcareinc@... On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good at > listening to me. > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > Sheilah > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > HI Sheila > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > itching/ > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > summers ago; > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > disease. > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > Active > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > (IE > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > -- > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > not > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > work > > so synergistically > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other symtpoms > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > ~*~ > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > and > > stay asleep > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > lot > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > state > > but NY or CA > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > website_) > > > > -- > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > and " stress management " > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > -- > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > and > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the body, > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > -Carol > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > but reading even further > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be helping > > water go to the right places ( > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > currently > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > with > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > that > > I > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > to > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > negative. > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > have > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving > > me > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > said > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Is PA and/or medical treatment for PA associated with any kind of fatigue at all? ======================================================================== == On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Lowerbp2 wrote: > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > IMHO > > Beware of health care providers > Selling this > > Sent from my iPhone > > CE Grim MS MD > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc > Sharedcareinc@... > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good > at > > listening to me. > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > Sheilah > > > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > itching/ > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > summers ago; > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > disease. > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > Active > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > (IE > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > -- > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > > not > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > work > > > so synergistically > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > symtpoms > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > ~*~ > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > > and > > > stay asleep > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > lot > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > state > > > but NY or CA > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > website_) > > > > > > -- > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > -- > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > > and > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > body, > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > but reading even further > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > helping > > > water go to the right places ( > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > currently > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > > with > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > that > > > I > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > that > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > > to > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > > have > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > driving > > > me > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > said > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I always assumed those talking about adrenal fatique were referring to addinoneans which I thought is the oposite of PA. I recently looked into the Chopra center since Dr. Chopra was actually an endo before he opened his center for complete health and welness. My first question was if they had ever dealth with PA patients and they said NO but they could get me started on yoga and similar relaxation techniques for overall welness. So I didn't bother. This was a big problem when I was first diagnosed trying to find a decent doctor who knew what I had and how to treat my condition, many didn't know what they were doing and were referring with confidence to lecture me that my my condition in the medical terminology was called addisonean. A big flag telling me to stay away from him/her. Best, Farah On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Arthur Springer <as99@...> wrote: > Is PA and/or medical treatment for PA associated with any kind of > fatigue at all? > ======================================================================== > == > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Lowerbp2 wrote: > > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > > IMHO > > > > Beware of health care providers > > Selling this > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > CE Grim MS MD > > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc > > Sharedcareinc@... <Sharedcareinc%40mac.com> > > > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...<beachboyfan1%40>> > wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good > > at > > > listening to me. > > > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > > Sheilah > > > > > > In hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>, > " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > > itching/ > > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > > summers ago; > > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > > disease. > > > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > > Active > > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > > (IE > > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > > > not > > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > > work > > > > so synergistically > > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > > symtpoms > > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > > > and > > > > stay asleep > > > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > > lot > > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > > state > > > > but NY or CA > > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > > website_) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > > > and > > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > > body, > > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > > but reading even further > > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > > helping > > > > water go to the right places ( > > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > > currently > > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > > > with > > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > > that > > > > I > > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > > that > > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > > > to > > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > > > have > > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > > driving > > > > me > > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > > said > > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad > > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 There are many people on this list who report fatigue with PA. I am not aware of spiro or Inspra causing fatigue. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Arthur Springer Is PA and/or medical treatment for PA associated with any kind of fatigue at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 All of the salt we eat was sea salt at one time. It kills just as well as " regular " salt. On Jan 1, 2001, at 2:14 AM, jwwright wrote: > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today > come from past seas? > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > ??? > Regards > > Re: Re: My First Post > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > IMHO > > Beware of health care providers > Selling this > > Sent from my iPhone > > CE Grim MS MD > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc > Sharedcareinc@... > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty > good at > > listening to me. > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > Sheilah > > > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > itching/ > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > summers ago; > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > disease. > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > Active > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > (IE > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > -- > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > > not > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > work > > > so synergistically > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > symtpoms > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > ~*~ > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > > and > > > stay asleep > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > lot > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > state > > > but NY or CA > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > website_) > > > > > > -- > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > -- > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > > and > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > body, > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > but reading even further > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > helping > > > water go to the right places ( > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > currently > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > > with > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > that > > > I > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > that > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > > to > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > > have > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > driving > > > me > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > said > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Yes in all advanced cases due to low K with PA which almost always has " high blood pressure " . Adrenals not working well for cortisol would have low BP and tend to have high K. CE Grim MD See my paper in files. A On Oct 5, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Arthur Springer wrote: > Is PA and/or medical treatment for PA associated with any kind of > fatigue at all? > ====================================================================== > == > == > On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Lowerbp2 wrote: > > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > > IMHO > > > > Beware of health care providers > > Selling this > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > CE Grim MS MD > > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education > Comsulting Inc > > Sharedcareinc@... > > > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to > try sea > > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me > before my > > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good > > at > > > listening to me. > > > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > > Sheilah > > > > > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > > itching/ > > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > > summers ago; > > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > > disease. > > > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > > Active > > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > > (IE > > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) > did > > > not > > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > > work > > > > so synergistically > > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical > stress of > > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > > symtpoms > > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me > do a > > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about > the > > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 > salivas per > > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall > asleep > > > and > > > > stay asleep > > > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > > lot > > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, > But i > > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > > state > > > > but NY or CA > > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > > website_) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and > nutrition - > > > and > > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > > body, > > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > > but reading even further > > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > > helping > > > > water go to the right places ( > > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > > currently > > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been > diagnosed > > > > with > > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > > that > > > > I > > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > > that > > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg > swelling > > > to > > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my > foot,I > > > > have > > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > > driving > > > > me > > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > > said > > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about > this.I > > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they > thyroid > > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } > #ygrp- > > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp- > sponsor .ad > > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 That was always my understanding too...That salt came from the sea.Anyway,my goal is to stop all salt.I just can't do it cold turkey. I think I would die from withdrawals. Sheilah In hyperaldosteronism , " jwwright " <jwwright@...> wrote: > > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today come from past seas? > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > ??? > Regards > > Re: Re: My First Post > > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > IMHO > > Beware of health care providers > Selling this > > Sent from my iPhone > > CE Grim MS MD > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc > Sharedcareinc@... > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty good at > > listening to me. > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > Sheilah > > > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > <ms_sisyphus_00@> wrote: > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > itching/ > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > summers ago; > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > disease. > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > Active > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > (IE > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > -- > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > > not > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > work > > > so synergistically > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other symtpoms > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > ~*~ > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > > and > > > stay asleep > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > lot > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > state > > > but NY or CA > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > website_) > > > > > > -- > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > -- > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > > and > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the body, > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > but reading even further > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be helping > > > water go to the right places ( > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > currently > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > > with > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > that > > > I > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > > to > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > > have > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving > > > me > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > said > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp- sponsor .ad > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Sheilah: A good alternative to reducing salt to start out is add some balsamic vinegar(about a teaspoon or so) and cayane pepper to your food. The spicy taste of the pepper and vinegar is a good alternative to salt. In time you will not need to vinegar or the pepper. My kids dont like to eat at restaurants anymore because they say all they taste is salt and nothing else. Once you get used to a low sodium diet, you appreciate the real taste in food. Best, Farah On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > That was always my understanding too...That salt came from the > sea.Anyway,my goal is to stop all salt.I just can't do it cold turkey. > > I think I would die from withdrawals. > > Sheilah > > In hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>, > " jwwright " <jwwright@...> > wrote: > > > > > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today > come from past seas? > > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > > ??? > > Regards > > > > Re: Re: My First Post > > > > > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > > IMHO > > > > Beware of health care providers > > Selling this > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > CE Grim MS MD > > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education > Comsulting Inc > > Sharedcareinc@... > > > > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to > try sea > > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me > before my > > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty > good at > > > listening to me. > > > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > > Sheilah > > > > > > In hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism%40>, > " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > > <ms_sisyphus_00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > > itching/ > > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > > summers ago; > > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > > disease. > > > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > > Active > > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on > meds! > > > (IE > > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) > did > > > not > > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid > glands > > > work > > > > so synergistically > > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical > stress of > > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > symtpoms > > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me > do a > > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about > the > > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 > salivas per > > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall > asleep > > > and > > > > stay asleep > > > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this > but a > > > lot > > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, > But i > > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > > state > > > > but NY or CA > > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself > via > > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > > website_) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines > or > > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and > nutrition - > > > and > > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , > and > > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > body, > > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > > but reading even further > > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > helping > > > > water go to the right places ( > > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > > currently > > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been > diagnosed > > > > with > > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by > researching > > > that > > > > I > > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess > essentially that > > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg > swelling > > > to > > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came > back > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my > foot,I > > > > have > > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > driving > > > > me > > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My > doctor > > > said > > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about > this.I > > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they > thyroid > > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } > #ygrp- > > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp- > sponsor .ad > > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 > 0; } > > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I thought that too, but I found out if you start cutting back, your taste will change. I did a diet that eliminated sodium accidentally largely replaced with carbs. After 3 months my wife wanted to eat something else - she had lost 45 #. So we started steamed broccoli then added other veggies. The outcome was that I could taste the potato flavor, the delicate flavors in various veggies. Now if you put something like celery in the steamer it will mask the others, so I leave those out. We use things like squash, red bell pepper, red potatoes, carrots (take longer). We also bake (microwave) potatoes, sweet pots, and cob corn. It's the only way to regulate/control sodium. Regards Re: My First Post That was always my understanding too...That salt came from the sea.Anyway,my goal is to stop all salt.I just can't do it cold turkey. I think I would die from withdrawals. Sheilah In hyperaldosteronism , " jwwright " <jwwright@...> wrote: > > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today come from past seas? > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > ??? > Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 It is not possible to eliminate all sodium in what you eat as long as you eat. Your goal should be <1500 mg a day. Basically you want to get it low enough that your BP is normal and you can stand that sodium intake. Some can and some can't (tolerate the change). CE Grim MD On Oct 7, 2008, at 1:38 PM, jwwright wrote: > I thought that too, but I found out if you start cutting back, your > taste > will change. > I did a diet that eliminated sodium accidentally largely replaced with > carbs. After 3 months my wife wanted to eat something else - she > had lost 45 > #. So we started steamed broccoli then added other veggies. > The outcome was that I could taste the potato flavor, the delicate > flavors > in various veggies. Now if you put something like celery in the > steamer it > will mask the others, so I leave those out. We use things like > squash, red > bell pepper, red potatoes, carrots (take longer). > We also bake (microwave) potatoes, sweet pots, and cob corn. > > It's the only way to regulate/control sodium. > > Regards > > Re: My First Post > > That was always my understanding too...That salt came from the > sea.Anyway,my goal is to stop all salt.I just can't do it cold turkey. > > I think I would die from withdrawals. > > Sheilah > > In hyperaldosteronism , " jwwright " <jwwright@...> > wrote: > > > > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today > come from past seas? > > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > > ??? > > Regards > > > May your pressure be low!  CE Grim BS, MS, MD High Blood Pressure Consulting Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Consulting Inc.(sharedcareinc.com) Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine Medical and Cardiology Medical College of Wisconsin Board certified in Internal Med, Geriatrics and Hypertension. Interests: 1. Difficult to control high blood pressure. 2. The effect of recent evolutionary forces on high blood pressure in human populations. 3. Improving blood pressure measurement in the office and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 We really should be calling the " low sodium " diet that many are eating here a " normal human sodium " diet based on what our progenitors ate for millions of years. It is only in last 10,000 years or so that humans have over-salted and hypertension has become the major killer of man kind (and woman kind) today. I suggest we start calling the DASH diet a normal human salt diet and the current high salt diet a toxic intake of salt causing salt poisoning. Still need to recall that the 1,500 mg Na diet (DASH) is about 5 times more than our ancestors consumed. CE Grim MD On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Farah Rahbar wrote: > Sheilah: > A good alternative to reducing salt to start out is add some balsamic > vinegar(about a teaspoon or so) and cayane pepper to your food. The > spicy > taste of the pepper and vinegar is a good alternative to salt. In > time you > will not need to vinegar or the pepper. My kids dont like to eat at > restaurants anymore because they say all they taste is salt and > nothing > else. Once you get used to a low sodium diet, you appreciate the > real taste > in food. > > Best, > Farah > > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:07 AM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> > wrote: > > > That was always my understanding too...That salt came from the > > sea.Anyway,my goal is to stop all salt.I just can't do it cold > turkey. > > > > I think I would die from withdrawals. > > > > Sheilah > > > > In hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism% > 40>, > > " jwwright " <jwwright@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today > > come from past seas? > > > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > > > ??? > > > Regards > > > > > > Re: Re: My First Post > > > > > > > > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > > > IMHO > > > > > > Beware of health care providers > > > Selling this > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > CE Grim MS MD > > > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > > > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education > > Comsulting Inc > > > Sharedcareinc@... > > > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to > > try sea > > > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me > > before my > > > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty > > good at > > > > listening to me. > > > > > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > > > Sheilah > > > > > > > > In hyperaldosteronism <hyperaldosteronism% > 40>, > > " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > > > <ms_sisyphus_00@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > > > itching/ > > > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > > > summers ago; > > > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > > > disease. > > > > > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > > > Active > > > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on > > meds! > > > > (IE > > > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) > > did > > > > not > > > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid > > glands > > > > work > > > > > so synergistically > > > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical > > stress of > > > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > > symtpoms > > > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > > > > > ~*~ > > > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me > > do a > > > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about > > the > > > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 > > salivas per > > > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall > > asleep > > > > and > > > > > stay asleep > > > > > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this > > but a > > > > lot > > > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, > > But i > > > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > > > state > > > > > but NY or CA > > > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself > > via > > > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > > > website_) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines > > or > > > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and > > nutrition - > > > > and > > > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , > > and > > > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > > body, > > > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > > > but reading even further > > > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > > helping > > > > > water go to the right places ( > > > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > > > currently > > > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been > > diagnosed > > > > > with > > > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by > > researching > > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess > > essentially that > > > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg > > swelling > > > > to > > > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came > > back > > > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my > > foot,I > > > > > have > > > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > > driving > > > > > me > > > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My > > doctor > > > > said > > > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about > > this.I > > > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they > > thyroid > > > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } > > #ygrp- > > > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp- > > sponsor .ad > > > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 > > 0; } > > > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 All of the salt we eat was sea salt at one time. It kills just as well as " regular " salt. On Jan 1, 2001, at 2:14 AM, jwwright wrote: > Sea salt is a weird thing. Didn't most of the salt harvested today > come from past seas? > Which " sea salt " is likely to be more contaminated and what with? > ??? > Regards > > Re: Re: My First Post > > Adrenal fatigue is not a known medical diagnosis > IMHO > > Beware of health care providers > Selling this > > Sent from my iPhone > > CE Grim MS MD > Specializing in Difficult Hypertension > Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Education Comsulting Inc > Sharedcareinc@... > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Sheilah <beachboyfan1@...> wrote: > > > Thank you very much for this information.My friend got me to try sea > > salt a few days ago.I will research what you have told me before my > > next doctor visit.So,I can kinda guide her along.She's pretty > good at > > listening to me. > > > > Maybe I should be the doctor.hahaa.jk > > Sheilah > > > > In hyperaldosteronism , " ms_sisyphus_00 " > > <ms_sisyphus_00@...> wrote: > > > > > > HI Sheila > > > > > > wow, about the edema legs, but also top of foot with Extreme > > itching/ > > > clear " blister " ! i had that when i got really sick a couple of > > > summers ago; > > > i have longterm hypothryodi = hashimoto's autoimmine thyroid > > disease. > > > > > > turns out i did NOt convert the standard thyroid hormone med > > > (synthroid) which contains only T4 thyroid hormone (vs T3, the > > Active > > > hormone) and i remained hypothyroid all the years i was on meds! > > (IE > > > i had a below NOrmal Free t3 ) > > > > > > -- > > > anyway, having hypothryodi /low Free t3 (with a " Normal tsh " ) did > > not > > > help my adreanl glands ; because the adrenal and thyroid glands > > work > > > so synergistically > > > and after a lot of life/emotion stress -and the physical stress of > > > summer (no AC ) i got that blister and also a Ton of other > symtpoms > > > that i had been living with became worse. ] > > > btw, the itching was incredibly fierce!!!! > > > > > > (i had slightly high BP for years , but postural hypOtension > > > (lightheaded when standing up) got MUCH worse that summer. > > > > > > ~*~ > > > my new MD (alternative MD who also knows accupuncture) had me do a > > > 24hr cortisol saliva test. (and i Googled to learn more about the > > > symptoms! all of which i had lived with Since childhood!!) > > > > > > i have High cortisol on 3 of the readings (they test 4 salivas per > > > day and one's cortisol Should be in a Diurnal pattern: > > > highest in morning and decrease by bedtime so you can fall asleep > > and > > > stay asleep > > > > > > conventional medicine still hasn't learned much about this but a > > lot > > > of conventionally trained drs, who are now calling themselves > > > Alternative or holistic MDs , do use this test > > > (someone told me one part of medicare will pay for/uses it, But i > > > have not confirmed that myself!_) > > > > > > > > > can you do a 24hr cortisol SALIVA test? > > > > > > *you can order a DiagnosTechs or ZRT labs, IF you live in any > > state > > > but NY or CA > > > (CA you need a dr on the order) but otherwise order yourself via > > > those sites or thru Canary club (an thyroid patient advocate > > website_) > > > > > > -- > > > basically to help Adrenal Fatigue: > > > eat a low glycemic, healthy, whole food diet and NO caffeines or > > > sugars (or basically any fun stuff > > > and " stress management " > > > > > > i also take Vit C now (not megadoses but 500mg in am and pm) > > > and a good quality* ALL-B vitamin. > > > > > > -- > > > turns out for anyone with " adrenal Fatigue " , diet and nutrition - > > and > > > glycemic control- is Extremely important to feeling better , and > > > helping the adrenals to heal. > > > > > > the adrenals and cortisol help to control inflammation in the > body, > > > and keep allergies " under control. > > > > > > -Carol > > > > > > BTW< i have swelling in my legs: > > > note that Hypothyrodism is known to cause " salt wasting " > > > but reading even further > > > you can find studies and different drs saying that ALL the > > > electrolytes can be affected in hypothryodi patients > > > --and adrenal fatigue patietns! > > > > > > i actually use sea salt now (not a lot ) but it Seems to be > helping > > > water go to the right places ( > > > i also take magnesium and eat calcium/yogurt-plain > > > and TOns of salads for potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am > > > currently > > > > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed > > > with > > > > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching > > that > > > I > > > > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially > that > > > > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > > > > > > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling > > to > > > > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > > > > negative. > > > > > > > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I > > > have > > > > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is > driving > > > me > > > > mad.Literally. > > > > > > > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor > > said > > > > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > > > > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > > > > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > > > > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > > > > > > eight: bold; color: #628c2a; font-size: 100%; line- > > height: 122%; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration: none; } #ygrp- > > sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration: underline; } #ygrp-sponsor .ad > > p{ margin: 0; } o{font-size: 0; } .MsoNormal{ margin: 0 0 0 0; } > > #ygrp-text tt{ font-size: 120%; } blockquote{margin: 0 0 0 > > 4px;} .replbq{margin:4} --> l> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 where did you get the idea that sea salt is different from salt mined on land? > > I joined this group a few months after my dear friend,Dave Pearson > died.He used to send me posts from here when he thought I could > benefit.I'm sorry to say,it took him not being in my life that > finally got me to join. > > Now, I have a problem I hope someone can help me with.I am currently > taking medicine for my blood pressure and I have been diagnosed with > having an underactive thyroid.(I just found out by researching that I > have been taking this medicine wrong.So, I guess essentially that > means,I have not even been taking it.) > > Anyway....I have been suffering for a month with my leg swelling to > about twice its size.Was checked for clots,and that came back > negative. > > Last week I went to the doctor, because at the top of my foot,I have > small clear blisters,and an intense..INTENSE itch that is driving me > mad.Literally. > > I have tried several things, but nothing has worked.My doctor said > she sees this a lot,and there is nothing she can do about this.I > found this hard to believe.I always believe that for any > problem,there is a solution.She did say it could be they thyroid > problem..so I have to go to the hospital tomorrow for tests. > > I live in rural Kentucky,and we don't have the best doctors and > medical equipment here.(in spite of what hospital PR likes to > claim).So, I always try to research before I go to see them, so I can > kinda direct them. > > Any help/advice is appreciated.If I don't stop itching,I'm gonna lose > my mind...whats left of it,I mean. > > Thanks, > Sheilah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Hey Carla... Don't leave out...you got those sultry temps...in Georgia...cooking down there...too...while we are stuck in our igloos waiting for the polar bears...to go away...(only kidding...) I hope your doggies...bring home that Championship Prize...next time around... Too bad...we couldn't have played..."My slant is bigger than your slant..."...together...back in the day...(1981) Best Wishes, Jim My First Post Hello to everyone. I have been reading all of the posts for awhile and have decided to tell my story. I am 51, female, and have had Harrington Rods since 1981. I also had a fusion to a portion of my back one week before the rods were put in. I was about 22 at that time. I was out of work 3 months, and have been working full-time and going to school ever since then. I had worn the Wilwaukee brace for several years in my teens. My doctor in Miami, FL, retired and my parents didn't follow up so I didn't know I needed surgery. At about 21 years old, my back just hurt all the time. I went to a local orthopedic surgeon (Milledgeville, GA) and was referred to Dr. Carl Fackler in Atlanta (Piedmont Hospital). The surgery left me "pitched forward", and Dr. Fackler insisted it was normal and nothing to worry about. As he said, "this isn't cosmetic surgery." I'll say. After reading all of your posts, I know I have been lucky. I am doing pretty well. I tell people it looks worse than it feels! I work full-time and have a very active life. I even compete in dog agility with my two dogs! The only time my back hurts is when I don't get enough sleep or when I do too much bending (yard work, car washing, etc.). I will say, though, that turning 50 has been tough! I am more achy and sluggish nowadays than I used to be. I hope my back will continue to be OK in the future. I haven't given much thought to having the rods removed for fear things could be a lot worse. I try not to think about it much, except when I feel sorry for myself and wish I was "normal." Thanks for listening.Carla in Athens, GA No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release Date: 1/27/2009 7:26 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Hi Carla, It's good to hear that you are feeling well!!! And you are very active & I think that's good too. But I was just wondering: A nurse just wrote in to the question, did your operation affect your financial situation. She wrote she had to quit taking care of patients & go into administrative work and was sad about that. Well, I remember talking to another nurse a long time ago who had scoliosis surgery. She was angry because no one had told her she should have taken it easy on herself or even get into another profession. Lifting patients was hard on the back! So what is the best answer here? Should the doctors tell their patients the more they do, the sooner they will need another surgery? Good question & I don't know the right answer to that one. Sandy > > Hello to everyone. I have been reading all of the posts for awhile > and have decided to tell my story. I am 51, female, and have had > Harrington Rods since 1981. I also had a fusion to a portion of my > back one week before the rods were put in. I was about 22 at that > time. I was out of work 3 months, and have been working full-time > and going to school ever since then. I had worn the Wilwaukee brace > for several years in my teens. My doctor in Miami, FL, retired and > my parents didn't follow up so I didn't know I needed surgery. At > about 21 years old, my back just hurt all the time. I went to a > local orthopedic surgeon (Milledgeville, GA) and was referred to Dr. > Carl Fackler in Atlanta (Piedmont Hospital). The surgery left > me " pitched forward " , and Dr. Fackler insisted it was normal and > nothing to worry about. As he said, " this isn't cosmetic surgery. " > I'll say. After reading all of your posts, I know I have been > lucky. I am doing pretty well. I tell people it looks worse than > it feels! I work full-time and have a very active life. I even > compete in dog agility with my two dogs! The only time my back > hurts is when I don't get enough sleep or when I do too much bending > (yard work, car washing, etc.). I will say, though, that turning 50 > has been tough! I am more achy and sluggish nowadays than I used to > be. I hope my back will continue to be OK in the future. I haven't > given much thought to having the rods removed for fear things could > be a lot worse. I try not to think about it much, except when I > feel sorry for myself and wish I was " normal. " Thanks for listening. > > Carla in Athens, GA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Hi there, I am also new to this group and just discovered the podcasts. I also have the problem of being in a constant learning mode rather than a doing mode. I usually avoid shows like biggest loser for just the reason you mention. Its wonderful that they can take a vacation from life and simply go lose weight. I can't. To me, its a bigger test and much bigger accomplishment to have be able to lose weight with life happening all around me. Today I will concentrate on more doing. We already know HOW to do it. Now lets " Just DO it! " Kate > > Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching > my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I > find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the > past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of > " the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my > knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!! > > I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so > different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my > motivation to DO. . . > > I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the > " action " I stop. . . > > I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will > I not allow this version of myself to become real??? > > Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and > transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . . > > sigh. . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Kate - I have the same problem. You've inspired me to be motivated today. It will be very hard because people in my office (hopefully not me) are getting laid off. Its been going on all week and we know today is the day for our department. Thanks for the motivation. Ann Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry Re: My First Post Hi there, I am also new to this group and just discovered the podcasts. I also have the problem of being in a constant learning mode rather than a doing mode. I usually avoid shows like biggest loser for just the reason you mention. Its wonderful that they can take a vacation from life and simply go lose weight. I can't. To me, its a bigger test and much bigger accomplishment to have be able to lose weight with life happening all around me. Today I will concentrate on more doing. We already know HOW to do it. Now lets " Just DO it! " Kate > > Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching > my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I > find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the > past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of > " the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my > knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!! > > I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so > different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my > motivation to DO. . . > > I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the > " action " I stop. . . > > I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will > I not allow this version of myself to become real??? > > Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and > transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . . > > sigh. . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Kate - I have the same problem. You've inspired me to be motivated today. It will be very hard because people in my office (hopefully not me) are getting laid off. Its been going on all week and we know today is the day for our department. Thanks for the motivation. Ann Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry Re: My First Post Hi there, I am also new to this group and just discovered the podcasts. I also have the problem of being in a constant learning mode rather than a doing mode. I usually avoid shows like biggest loser for just the reason you mention. Its wonderful that they can take a vacation from life and simply go lose weight. I can't. To me, its a bigger test and much bigger accomplishment to have be able to lose weight with life happening all around me. Today I will concentrate on more doing. We already know HOW to do it. Now lets " Just DO it! " Kate > > Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching > my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I > find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the > past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of > " the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my > knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!! > > I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so > different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my > motivation to DO. . . > > I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the > " action " I stop. . . > > I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will > I not allow this version of myself to become real??? > > Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and > transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . . > > sigh. . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Hi , Seems we have the same problem. DOING! I know more about weight and food and calories than a PhD. I am now working very hard on those emotional issues. Very Hard. I have completely immersed myself in trying to figure out my limiting beliefs cause I think they are what's stopping me from DOING! God bless us though, we are persistant. Bonnie April is Autism Awareness Month On May 6, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Vietor wrote: > Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching > my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I > find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the > past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of > " the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my > knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!! > > I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so > different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my > motivation to DO. . . > > I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the > " action " I stop. . . > > I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will > I not allow this version of myself to become real??? > > Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and > transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . . > > sigh. . . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that they will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've gone from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not knowing what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what drives them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy. Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting. Bev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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