My first post

[Guest guest]

People definitely should NOT compare their results to Biggest Loser contestants.

Those people are on very specially controlled programs and monitored constantly.

And Bev is right about when they leave the Ranch. Tuesday's episode was the

results after leaving the ranch for 30 days. The numbers they put up after 30

days were the same numbers they put up as a weekly average. And this is while

its all still fresh in their minds, and the pressure of being on national tv and

winning a huge prize.

I always say that everybody is apples and oranges. You can't compare two people

because there are so many little thing that seperate us, we are nothing like

each other. But comparing your normal everyday life to one of the Biggest Loser

contestants is like comparing apples to sushi. Not even in the same hemisphere.

Randy

[Guest guest]

I've also heard many dietitians criticize TBL for not being safe and

being too extreme. I have also heard that past winners have regained

and I am sure it's because of the extreme dieting and not dealing with

the emotions.

Bonnie

April is Autism Awareness Month

On May 7, 2009, at 8:44 AM, bevshahabdolldesigns wrote:

> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

> they

> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

> gone

> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

> knowing

> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

> drives

> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

>

> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

>

> Bev

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

> reserved.

[Guest guest]

Randy,

I just wanted to say that I completely agree with you. I enjoy the show and

watch it sometimes, the parts I like to pay particular attention to are

those in which the contestants are obviously so triumphant and have overcome

a lot for themselves. but it also saddens me sometimes that Biggest Loser

is made at all. I don't think in the end it really gives anyone motivation

to lose weight. people watch it and see unrealistic numbers, unrealistic

time frames for weight loss, and immediately feel that they can never do

that, so what's the point of even trying? for some of the contestants on

the show, I think it is probably a lifesaver, sometimes even literally. but

for the rest of the world I think it hinders more than helps.

,

I do understand being jealous about the time these contestants have to put

in. if I was able to concentrate only on my health, not have to work 40+

hours a week, not be in school, not have a house and a partner and pets to

take care of, it would be -so- much easier to get to my perfect weight and

toned all over.

but when you feel yourself getting jealous, think of everything these people

have to give up to go on this show. they are isolated from their families

and their homes for weeks at a time. they are pushed to their breaking

points time and time again, and while I believe this really helps some of

them, can you ever really be -ready- to be forced to face all of your

emotional and physical issues head on? and as an aside, I don't know too

many people right now who could not only afford to walk away from a job for

months, but would be guaranteed a job when they returned.

just some thoughts. like you and many others here, I am in the same

boat of feeling like I know everything there is to know, but doing is a

whole other story. some days I feel like 'if I just had someone like

Jillian to push me all the time, I could do it' but there are so many

reasons that wouldn't work for me.

sending you positive energy and thoughts for your journey.

Audrey

[Guest guest]

We call it the show that we want to eat pizza and ice cream while watching. No,

I have no clue why we feel that way. We do watch it religiously and are very

happy that this season they finally talked about the injuries that can occur.

When I start trying to work out 4 hours or more a day my injury rate increases

drastically. Up until this season they never addressed this which was a big

disappointment. When people (including myself) are needing to lose a lot of

weight they are much more injury prone than those that are needing to lose less

weight. I wish they'd start showing more of so and so has injured their blah and

due to that this is how they are modifying their workouts. Over the past year

and 1/2 I have had plantar faciitis, a pinched nerve in my foot, popped a knee

cap in and out, had thumb surgery (for a tumor so not workout related - one for

me!), and messed up my rotator cuff. Now, don't get me wrong, a good portion of

the issues is due to being hard headed, but some have been just being in the

wrong place at the wrong time. I'm now working on learning and following

something called moderation. This is actually a new term for me that I am

attempting to apply to all areas of my life.

The ones that are there the longest seem to work on the emotional side of their

eating the most. Like most weight loss things out there, no one really goes into

the next phase though. I know of countless people that have lost tons of weight

yet the return to their previous weight. From what I've read the statistics for

the general public returning are about the same for the people on TBL. I still

wish they would show more of the actual workouts since I am interested in that

(I'm always looking for the next fun thing to try) and spend more time

discussing what they need to do when they get home for maintenance. For me

is getting my mindset going for the next phase while helping me lose weight.

Since looking at food differently and following many of the things she has said

I have started losing more weight than I did trying to work out 4 hours a day

last year. Kind of funny since I've been banned from workingout more by docs

during this time period than I was last year.

Jen

On Thursday, May 07, 2009, at 08:24AM, " Bonnie Markowski " <albon725@...>

wrote:

>I've also heard many dietitians criticize TBL for not being safe and

>being too extreme. I have also heard that past winners have regained

>and I am sure it's because of the extreme dieting and not dealing with

>the emotions.

>Bonnie

>

>April is Autism Awareness Month

>

>

>

>On May 7, 2009, at 8:44 AM, bevshahabdolldesigns wrote:

>

>> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

>> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

>> they

>> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

>> gone

>> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

>> knowing

>> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

>> drives

>> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

>> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

>>

>> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

>> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

>> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

>> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

>> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

>> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

>> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

>>

>> Bev

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

>> reserved.

[Guest guest]

Jen:

What sort of exercising do you do that won't aggravate your knee?

> >

> >> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

> >> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

> >> they

> >> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

> >> gone

> >> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

> >> knowing

> >> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

> >> drives

> >> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

> >> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

> >>

> >> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

> >> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

> >> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

> >> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

> >> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

> >> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

> >> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

> >>

> >> Bev

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

> >> reserved.

[Guest guest]

Jen:

What sort of exercising do you do that won't aggravate your knee?

> >

> >> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

> >> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

> >> they

> >> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

> >> gone

> >> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

> >> knowing

> >> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

> >> drives

> >> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

> >> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

> >>

> >> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

> >> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

> >> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

> >> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

> >> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

> >> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

> >> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

> >>

> >> Bev

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

> >> reserved.

[Guest guest]

If it's really bad do upper body - you will lose weight doing this and tone up,

but slower. Then slowly build back up on your legs.

I use a recumbent bike and keep the level very low along with many knee

exercises listed by my physical therapist that has released me. For weights

on legs I use very low amounts with lots of reps. Since we have a Bowflex that

really helps as opposed to free weights and I can do almost all of the

recommended exercises from the PT on there. Walking in the pool or even running

in it is also excellent and regular swimming. We don't have a heated pool around

so I mainly do that from May - October here (we're in TX so we've got a rather

long warm season). Some people swear by the eliptical machine. They are

excruciatingly painful for me and always have been so I don't use them. At this

point there is no exercise I am banned for so I also walk and run in moderation.

If you are in any way looking at running buy top of the line running shoes and

extremely good insoles. Having the insole made to fit your foot is ideal until

you are relatively thin as it takes away a lot of the damage that you are doing

due to excess weight, but rather expensive. You will never see me on a treadmill

as I cannot run in a straight line to save my life and every time I've tried

I've had to hold on due to my being so uncoordinated. Soft surfaces are best.

Always wear a knee brace (I hate them, but still force myself) no matter what

type of exercise you're doing. The most important thing is to strengthen your

knee back to where you can do anything you want. It takes time, but is very

possible.

The hardest thing for me to learn is to listen to my body no matter what. If

it's too much stop or take it down a few notches. I'm a suck it up and work

through things type of person so this falls into that issue of moderation that

I'm working on. Ice, Advil, and massages are your friend. You can do the

massages yourself or have someone do them for you. I actually do a pedicure a

month not for my toes to be painted perfectly so much as for the massage part.

This actually really helped with my recovery after my last taking out of the

knee as they helped work through the swelling. I've knocked my kneecap out I

around 4 times in my life now. This last time I went to the top orthopedic knee

doc in town and one of the top physical therapists. It was well worth it since I

can now do more than I've been able to in a long time since they made sure I

healed with everything back in the correct location this time. This will

actually drastically decrease the odds of it happening again and I'm still

surgery free.

Jen

On Thursday, May 07, 2009, at 03:32PM, " zenpoole " <zenpoole@...> wrote:

>Jen:

>

>What sort of exercising do you do that won't aggravate your knee?

>

>

>> >

>> >> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

>> >> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

>> >> they

>> >> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

>> >> gone

>> >> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

>> >> knowing

>> >> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

>> >> drives

>> >> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

>> >> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

>> >>

>> >> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

>> >> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

>> >> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

>> >> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

>> >> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

>> >> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

>> >> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

>> >>

>> >> Bev

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> ------------------------------------

>> >>

>> >> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

>> >> reserved.

[Guest guest]

If it's really bad do upper body - you will lose weight doing this and tone up,

but slower. Then slowly build back up on your legs.

I use a recumbent bike and keep the level very low along with many knee

exercises listed by my physical therapist that has released me. For weights

on legs I use very low amounts with lots of reps. Since we have a Bowflex that

really helps as opposed to free weights and I can do almost all of the

recommended exercises from the PT on there. Walking in the pool or even running

in it is also excellent and regular swimming. We don't have a heated pool around

so I mainly do that from May - October here (we're in TX so we've got a rather

long warm season). Some people swear by the eliptical machine. They are

excruciatingly painful for me and always have been so I don't use them. At this

point there is no exercise I am banned for so I also walk and run in moderation.

If you are in any way looking at running buy top of the line running shoes and

extremely good insoles. Having the insole made to fit your foot is ideal until

you are relatively thin as it takes away a lot of the damage that you are doing

due to excess weight, but rather expensive. You will never see me on a treadmill

as I cannot run in a straight line to save my life and every time I've tried

I've had to hold on due to my being so uncoordinated. Soft surfaces are best.

Always wear a knee brace (I hate them, but still force myself) no matter what

type of exercise you're doing. The most important thing is to strengthen your

knee back to where you can do anything you want. It takes time, but is very

possible.

The hardest thing for me to learn is to listen to my body no matter what. If

it's too much stop or take it down a few notches. I'm a suck it up and work

through things type of person so this falls into that issue of moderation that

I'm working on. Ice, Advil, and massages are your friend. You can do the

massages yourself or have someone do them for you. I actually do a pedicure a

month not for my toes to be painted perfectly so much as for the massage part.

This actually really helped with my recovery after my last taking out of the

knee as they helped work through the swelling. I've knocked my kneecap out I

around 4 times in my life now. This last time I went to the top orthopedic knee

doc in town and one of the top physical therapists. It was well worth it since I

can now do more than I've been able to in a long time since they made sure I

healed with everything back in the correct location this time. This will

actually drastically decrease the odds of it happening again and I'm still

surgery free.

Jen

On Thursday, May 07, 2009, at 03:32PM, " zenpoole " <zenpoole@...> wrote:

>Jen:

>

>What sort of exercising do you do that won't aggravate your knee?

>

>

>> >

>> >> I watched that episode of Biggest Loser on my iPod yesterday too. I

>> >> actually feel sorry for them because the change is so radical that

>> >> they

>> >> will have a hard time adjusting to life outside the ranch. They've

>> >> gone

>> >> from two extremes and you can see the terror on their faces, not

>> >> knowing

>> >> what moderation is. And they haven't had time to understand what

>> >> drives

>> >> them to overeat. Notice that the focus of the show is primarily on

>> >> exercise, very little on eating and even less on any kind of therapy.

>> >>

>> >> Yeah, I educated myself on the mechanics of weight loss for years and

>> >> years, but knowing how to do it and actually practicing it are two

>> >> different things. Since you're obviously a " reader " , have you read the

>> >> book, " The End of Overeating... " by Kessler. I just read it and

>> >> thought it was a really good book and the " science " in the book meshed

>> >> with 's approach. Whether this book will stop people from

>> >> overeating is questionable, but it was very interesting.

>> >>

>> >> Bev

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> ------------------------------------

>> >>

>> >> Copyright 2005-2007. A. s. All worldwide rights

>> >> reserved.

[Guest guest]

Not to mention that they can drive your heart rate insanely high if you

can't control the machine. I've done THAT before. So, I stay off that, do

the bike (the recumbent, if they're available). I'm also very deliberate on

the treadmill. My issue is that the muscles in the front of my thighs are

painful and I get bursitis in the " saddlebag " of the outer thigh, so I add

a stretch to each step.

In a message dated 5/7/2009 6:11:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jenny_mckay1@... writes:

Some people swear by the eliptical machine. They are excruciatingly

painful for me and always have been so I don't use them.

**************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now.

(http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist & ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)

[Guest guest]

Not to mention that they can drive your heart rate insanely high if you

can't control the machine. I've done THAT before. So, I stay off that, do

the bike (the recumbent, if they're available). I'm also very deliberate on

the treadmill. My issue is that the muscles in the front of my thighs are

painful and I get bursitis in the " saddlebag " of the outer thigh, so I add

a stretch to each step.

In a message dated 5/7/2009 6:11:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jenny_mckay1@... writes:

Some people swear by the eliptical machine. They are excruciatingly

painful for me and always have been so I don't use them.

**************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now.

(http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist & ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)

[Guest guest]

" Apples to sushi " made me laugh out loud, really. . .thanks Randy!!

On May 7, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Randy Hall wrote:

>

>

> People definitely should NOT compare their results to Biggest Loser

> contestants. Those people are on very specially controlled programs

> and monitored constantly. And Bev is right about when they leave the

> Ranch. Tuesday's episode was the results after leaving the ranch for

> 30 days. The numbers they put up after 30 days were the same numbers

> they put up as a weekly average. And this is while its all still

> fresh in their minds, and the pressure of being on national tv and

> winning a huge prize.

>

> I always say that everybody is apples and oranges. You can't compare

> two people because there are so many little thing that seperate us,

> we are nothing like each other. But comparing your normal everyday

> life to one of the Biggest Loser contestants is like comparing

> apples to sushi. Not even in the same hemisphere.

>

> Randy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome. Your post hit home for me. I used to walk around the supermarket

feeling really angry when I compared my shopping cart, filled with healthy food,

with others who had lots of yummy stuff that I couldn't or wouldn't eat - and

yet I still wasn't losing weight. I knew so much about weight loss from all of

my previous efforts, had tons of weight-related books on my shelf, lots of

bookmarked websites - but still wasn't able to break the code.

The IOWL podcasts have been really helpful for me and it always comes back to

the " you have to put in to get out " message. In really paying attention to my

hunger levels, and moderating the amount of food I eat, I have become much more

honest and accountable to myself. I have made my own rules that seem to be

working - I'm down about 20 pounds since January, almost effortlessly. I enjoy

cooking, and eating, more than I have in years. My bottom line is the

realization that the transformation comes from within - it's gotta work for you,

or it won't work at all.

________________________________

From: Vietor <vietor@...>

weightloss

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 11:53:09 PM

Subject: My First Post

Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching

my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I

find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the

past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of

" the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my

knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!!

I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so

different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my

motivation to DO. . .

I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the

" action " I stop. . .

I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will

I not allow this version of myself to become real???

Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and

transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . .

sigh. . .

[Guest guest]

Welcome. Your post hit home for me. I used to walk around the supermarket

feeling really angry when I compared my shopping cart, filled with healthy food,

with others who had lots of yummy stuff that I couldn't or wouldn't eat - and

yet I still wasn't losing weight. I knew so much about weight loss from all of

my previous efforts, had tons of weight-related books on my shelf, lots of

bookmarked websites - but still wasn't able to break the code.

The IOWL podcasts have been really helpful for me and it always comes back to

the " you have to put in to get out " message. In really paying attention to my

hunger levels, and moderating the amount of food I eat, I have become much more

honest and accountable to myself. I have made my own rules that seem to be

working - I'm down about 20 pounds since January, almost effortlessly. I enjoy

cooking, and eating, more than I have in years. My bottom line is the

realization that the transformation comes from within - it's gotta work for you,

or it won't work at all.

________________________________

From: Vietor <vietor@...>

weightloss

Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 11:53:09 PM

Subject: My First Post

Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching

my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I

find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the

past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of

" the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my

knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!!

I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so

different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my

motivation to DO. . .

I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the

" action " I stop. . .

I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will

I not allow this version of myself to become real???

Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and

transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . .

sigh. . .

[Guest guest]

Kathy--thanks for sharing!!! It's so helpful to know that I'm not

alone in those thoughts/feelings!!! I completely relate to the

grocery shopping experience. . .and I think I'm " getting " the

transformation from within, too. . .congrats on the 20 lbs!!!!

On May 8, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Kathy M wrote:

>

>

> Welcome. Your post hit home for me. I used to walk around the

> supermarket feeling really angry when I compared my shopping cart,

> filled with healthy food, with others who had lots of yummy stuff

> that I couldn't or wouldn't eat - and yet I still wasn't losing

> weight. I knew so much about weight loss from all of my previous

> efforts, had tons of weight-related books on my shelf, lots of

> bookmarked websites - but still wasn't able to break the code.

>

> The IOWL podcasts have been really helpful for me and it always

> comes back to the " you have to put in to get out " message. In really

> paying attention to my hunger levels, and moderating the amount of

> food I eat, I have become much more honest and accountable to

> myself. I have made my own rules that seem to be working - I'm down

> about 20 pounds since January, almost effortlessly. I enjoy cooking,

> and eating, more than I have in years. My bottom line is the

> realization that the transformation comes from within - it's gotta

> work for you, or it won't work at all.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Vietor <vietor@...>

> weightloss

> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 11:53:09 PM

> Subject: My First Post

>

> Good evening, everyone! It is 10:40pm, and I'm sitting here watching

> my DVR'd episode of the Biggest Loser from last night, and honestly, I

> find myself feeling so JEALOUS. . .I think I feel jealous that for the

> past ten years, I have been " studying " weight loss. . .finding all of

> " the best " ideas, the " best ways, " " the best foods, " etc. . .my

> knowledge base is HUGE!!! Unfortunately, I still am, too, LOL!!!

>

> I think that's my thing, that's what I do--I STUDY. . .but that is so

> different from DOING!!! I cannot figure out how to drum up my

> motivation to DO. . .

>

> I journal faithfully, I plan religiously, but when it comes to the

> " action " I stop. . .

>

> I am relatively successful in so many other domains of life--why will

> I not allow this version of myself to become real???

>

> Back to the jealousy. . .I wish I too could go somewhere and

> transform--allow my body a chrysalis, and emerge from it free. . .

>

> sigh. . .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, that's exactly why I don't work out for more than 30-60 min/day

and take one day off every week; I want to avoid injury. I once did a

lot of " stair stepping " for an hour/day for four months, and I hurt my

leg one day and completely gave up exercise. So, I try to be careful

now. I'm really just into walking (and just started riding a bike on the

weekends). Any time that something starts to hurt, I try to listen to my

body. Injury scares the crap out of me.

Bev

[Guest guest]

Yeah, that's exactly why I don't work out for more than 30-60 min/day

and take one day off every week; I want to avoid injury. I once did a

lot of " stair stepping " for an hour/day for four months, and I hurt my

leg one day and completely gave up exercise. So, I try to be careful

now. I'm really just into walking (and just started riding a bike on the

weekends). Any time that something starts to hurt, I try to listen to my

body. Injury scares the crap out of me.

Bev

[Guest guest]

Holy crap! I feel so badly for you! I would be

upset if it had happened to me. But congrats on the

weight loss (always an incentive to keep up the

exercises!) and I hope your recovery continues well.

---- Original message ----

Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:27:43 -0000

From: " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@...>

Subject: my first post

Joint Replacement

>hi all,

>my name is Lynne and I had a THR on Nov. 9th - I

spent 4 days in the hospital and then had PT and a

visiting nurse come to my house for 4 weeks -

after the holidays I started water therapy at my

local YMCA which I loved and have finished that

this week - I'll continue to go on my own twice a

week and keep up with the exercises since I feel

so much stronger and have even lost a few pounds!

YAY!

>anyway my surgeon told me that when he hammered

in the prosthesis into my thigh, he cracked my

femur. when he showed me my xrays on dec. 7th, I

could see a spiral wire going around my thigh

bone. He said it is holding my bone together.

>did this happen to anyone else?

>I find that my hip doesn't bother me much - the

pain I am getting is coming from my thigh bone. I

am off crutches and back to working full time,

driving, etc. it doesn't hurt all the time, just

occasionally.

>wishing you all the best in your recoveries!

>Lynne

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for responding . I am very upset about my femur. After a thr you're

supposed to walk walk walk but walking makes my thigh hurt. Am I just supposed

to accept that this happened

I went to one of the best hospitals in the world. NE Baptist in Boston

>

> Holy crap! I feel so badly for you! I would be

> upset if it had happened to me. But congrats on the

> weight loss (always an incentive to keep up the

> exercises!) and I hope your recovery continues well.

>

>

>

>

> ---- Original message ----

>

> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:27:43 -0000

> From: " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@...>

> Subject: my first post

> Joint Replacement

>

> >hi all,

> >my name is Lynne and I had a THR on Nov. 9th - I

> spent 4 days in the hospital and then had PT and a

> visiting nurse come to my house for 4 weeks -

> after the holidays I started water therapy at my

> local YMCA which I loved and have finished that

> this week - I'll continue to go on my own twice a

> week and keep up with the exercises since I feel

> so much stronger and have even lost a few pounds!

> YAY!

> >anyway my surgeon told me that when he hammered

> in the prosthesis into my thigh, he cracked my

> femur. when he showed me my xrays on dec. 7th, I

> could see a spiral wire going around my thigh

> bone. He said it is holding my bone together.

> >did this happen to anyone else?

> >I find that my hip doesn't bother me much - the

> pain I am getting is coming from my thigh bone. I

> am off crutches and back to working full time,

> driving, etc. it doesn't hurt all the time, just

> occasionally.

> >wishing you all the best in your recoveries!

> >Lynne

> >

> >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

I¹m so sorry this happened. Recovering from the surgery is enough without

having to worry about a cracked femur, and trying to figure out what pain is

caused by what. You sound very positive and like you¹re doing well on your

recovery. I would keep track with the doc of the healing of the femur and

hope all goes well.

Some questions that came up when I read this: Are there any the long/short

term consequences from this and if so what are you/they to do to help you

ameliorate them? Is anything needed/provided to help you heal from this?

Or is it just a matter of time for the crack to heal? Do you have additional

restrictions? Are you having to pay for additional medical/PT expenses due

to additional recovery time and needs?

Best wishes for your continued recovery. Mmmmm the water therapy sounds

great, and it is wonderful to experience that increased strength!

Peace,

Jackie

On 1/30/10 6:46 AM, " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks for responding . I am very upset about my femur. After a thr

> you're supposed to walk walk walk but walking makes my thigh hurt. Am I just

> supposed to accept that this happened

> I went to one of the best hospitals in the world. NE Baptist in Boston

>

>

>> >

>> > Holy crap! I feel so badly for you! I would be

>> > upset if it had happened to me. But congrats on the

>> > weight loss (always an incentive to keep up the

>> > exercises!) and I hope your recovery continues well.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ---- Original message ----

>> >

>> > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:27:43 -0000

>> > From: " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@...>

>> > Subject: my first post

>> > Joint Replacement

>> <mailto:Joint Replacement%40>

>> >

>>> > >hi all,

>>> > >my name is Lynne and I had a THR on Nov. 9th - I

>> > spent 4 days in the hospital and then had PT and a

>> > visiting nurse come to my house for 4 weeks -

>> > after the holidays I started water therapy at my

>> > local YMCA which I loved and have finished that

>> > this week - I'll continue to go on my own twice a

>> > week and keep up with the exercises since I feel

>> > so much stronger and have even lost a few pounds!

>> > YAY!

>>> > >anyway my surgeon told me that when he hammered

>> > in the prosthesis into my thigh, he cracked my

>> > femur. when he showed me my xrays on dec. 7th, I

>> > could see a spiral wire going around my thigh

>> > bone. He said it is holding my bone together.

>>> > >did this happen to anyone else?

>>> > >I find that my hip doesn't bother me much - the

>> > pain I am getting is coming from my thigh bone. I

>> > am off crutches and back to working full time,

>> > driving, etc. it doesn't hurt all the time, just

>> > occasionally.

>>> > >wishing you all the best in your recoveries!

>>> > >Lynne

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >

>>> > >------------------------------------

>>> > >

>>> > >

[Guest guest]

are they saying once the femure heals it will be back to normal healing time

for the hip?

On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:46 AM, lynniebbb <lynnboston@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for responding . I am very upset about my femur. After a thr

> you're supposed to walk walk walk but walking makes my thigh hurt. Am I just

> supposed to accept that this happened

> I went to one of the best hospitals in the world. NE Baptist in Boston

>

>

> >

> > Holy crap! I feel so badly for you! I would be

> > upset if it had happened to me. But congrats on the

> > weight loss (always an incentive to keep up the

> > exercises!) and I hope your recovery continues well.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---- Original message ----

> >

> > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:27:43 -0000

> > From: " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@...>

> > Subject: my first post

> > To:

Joint Replacement <Joint Replacement%40groups.co\

m>

> >

> > >hi all,

> > >my name is Lynne and I had a THR on Nov. 9th - I

> > spent 4 days in the hospital and then had PT and a

> > visiting nurse come to my house for 4 weeks -

> > after the holidays I started water therapy at my

> > local YMCA which I loved and have finished that

> > this week - I'll continue to go on my own twice a

> > week and keep up with the exercises since I feel

> > so much stronger and have even lost a few pounds!

> > YAY!

> > >anyway my surgeon told me that when he hammered

> > in the prosthesis into my thigh, he cracked my

> > femur. when he showed me my xrays on dec. 7th, I

> > could see a spiral wire going around my thigh

> > bone. He said it is holding my bone together.

> > >did this happen to anyone else?

> > >I find that my hip doesn't bother me much - the

> > pain I am getting is coming from my thigh bone. I

> > am off crutches and back to working full time,

> > driving, etc. it doesn't hurt all the time, just

> > occasionally.

> > >wishing you all the best in your recoveries!

> > >Lynne

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My Dr. also cracked the head of my femur when he seated the stem. It didn't

displace so they didn't even put a wire or screw to it. I go in Monday for my

after surgery check up. I was out of town for two weeks so it's going to be a

43 day check instead of the 30 day.

Your cracked femur should be almost healed by now. How big was the broken piece

and what side of the femur was it on. Mine was on the inside. I had X-rays

after a fall I took 3 weeks after surgery and a different radiologist couldn't

find the crack. I couldn't either. Are you sure it's not one of the many

ligaments where it attaches to the femur? All of the ligaments and tendons

around the hip take a lot of abuse during the THR. What motions or activities

cause it to hurt?

I hope your THR continues to improve for you.

Curt

> > >

> > > Holy crap! I feel so badly for you! I would be

> > > upset if it had happened to me. But congrats on the

> > > weight loss (always an incentive to keep up the

> > > exercises!) and I hope your recovery continues well.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---- Original message ----

> > >

> > > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:27:43 -0000

> > > From: " lynniebbb " <lynnboston@>

> > > Subject: my first post

> > > To:

Joint Replacement <Joint Replacement%40groups.co\

m>

> > >

> > > >hi all,

> > > >my name is Lynne and I had a THR on Nov. 9th - I

> > > spent 4 days in the hospital and then had PT and a

> > > visiting nurse come to my house for 4 weeks -

> > > after the holidays I started water therapy at my

> > > local YMCA which I loved and have finished that

> > > this week - I'll continue to go on my own twice a

> > > week and keep up with the exercises since I feel

> > > so much stronger and have even lost a few pounds!

> > > YAY!

> > > >anyway my surgeon told me that when he hammered

> > > in the prosthesis into my thigh, he cracked my

> > > femur. when he showed me my xrays on dec. 7th, I

> > > could see a spiral wire going around my thigh

> > > bone. He said it is holding my bone together.

> > > >did this happen to anyone else?

> > > >I find that my hip doesn't bother me much - the

> > > pain I am getting is coming from my thigh bone. I

> > > am off crutches and back to working full time,

> > > driving, etc. it doesn't hurt all the time, just

> > > occasionally.

> > > >wishing you all the best in your recoveries!

> > > >Lynne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Diane,

Did you have a bone density scan before you had the surgery. If so, what was

your reading in that hip. I'm asking because I got a low reading on my right

hip and I am having surgery in February. Just wondering if I have to worry

about what happened to you happening to me. Thanks.

Judy McG

>

> My Dr. also cracked the head of my femur when he seated the stem. It didn't

displace so they didn't even put a wire or screw to it. I go in Monday for my

after surgery check up. I was out of town for two weeks so it's going to be a

43 day check instead of the 30 day.

>

>

> Your cracked femur should be almost healed by now. How big was the broken

piece and what side of the femur was it on. Mine was on the inside. I had

X-rays after a fall I took 3 weeks after surgery and a different radiologist

couldn't find the crack. I couldn't either. Are you sure it's not one of the

many ligaments where it attaches to the femur? All of the ligaments and tendons

around the hip take a lot of abuse during the THR. What motions or activities

cause it to hurt?

>

> I hope your THR continues to improve for you.

> Curt

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just came over here from the beck forum. I'll be digging around....and FYI, I

am colloidal silver nutcase and wrote a huge guide to CS:

http://scientificliving.net/2011/02/the-ultimate-guide-to-colloidal-silver-collo\

idal-silver-generators-and-jello-2/

Looking to get some cheap device that may help kill what I think is stubborn

bartonella. It circulates in the blood and adheres to blood vessel walls (i.e.

not in circulation). Baby Grand suggested thinking about this group.

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