Re: Thinking Out Loud Here

[Guest guest]

ing's stuff helped me, too.

Currently I take Arginine-LKG powder about 5-10 grams a day from Swanson for

arterial health concerns.

vit c does not reduce infections, but can aid rebuilding collagen and may offer

some reduction in plaque.

taking lysine with arginine is not advised.

bG

>

> Hello All,

>

> Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

>

> Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

>

> OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by

current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

>

> My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

>

> Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

>

> Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because it

reduced a systemic infection I had.

>

> And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

>

> Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

>

[Guest guest]

BG and all,

Vitamin C in high enough doses will kill any germ or toxin. A Dr. Klenner was

curing polio in the 50's in 3 days, rattle snake bites, tetnus, rabies, cyanide

and arsenic, with massive doses of intravenous vitamin C. See:

http://www.bing.com/search?q=dr.+klenner+vitamin+c+research+on+hep+c & FORM=AGWBSS\

& PC=MAGW & MKT=en-us.

Also,

http://www.bing.com/videos/results.aspx?q=dr.+klenner+vitamin+c+research+on+hep+\

c & FORM=AGWBBG & PC=MAGW & MKT=en-us#.

Dick

>

> Hello All,

>

> Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

>

> Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

>

> OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by

current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

>

> My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

>

> Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

>

> Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because it

reduced a systemic infection I had.

>

> And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

>

> Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

>

[Guest guest]

not sure why aterial plaque and systemic infection would be related causally,

here? Plaque forms from LDL, specifically the small dense type generated from

digestion of fructose and ethyl alcohol. It has been found (good news) your

steak forms the other LDL which is large lightweight and does not cause plaque.

It can still clog you up with fat but does not fit under the aterial linings to

cause plaque buildups due to its large size.

bG

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> >

> > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

> >

> > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by

current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> >

> > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> >

> > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> >

> > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because

it reduced a systemic infection I had.

> >

> > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

> >

> > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Years ago I had a coversation with Linus ing about Vit C therapy. He said each individual needs to find his effective level of Vit C. I exsperimented and found that I needed 7 grams with bioflavonoids, rutin. B vits. etc every two hours for effective treatment. I am able to cure most things with this treatment but the body removes the Vit C within two hours so you must be certain to take it so it it in the body. Many people have diahrrea with that amount of Vit c but I have never had a problem with it. From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:27 AMSubject: Re: Thinking Out Loud Here

ing's stuff helped me, too.

Currently I take Arginine-LKG powder about 5-10 grams a day from Swanson for arterial health concerns.

vit c does not reduce infections, but can aid rebuilding collagen and may offer some reduction in plaque.

taking lysine with arginine is not advised.

bG

>

> Hello All,

>

> Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

>

> Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery health.

>

> OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

>

> My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

>

> Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

>

> Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because it reduced a systemic infection I had.

>

> And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce accumulated plaque.

>

> Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

>

[Guest guest]

this is interesting, thanks. I found some info from NIH with an in-vitro study

on cancer that looked very good. But dated 2005, and there's not really a

followup study I could find on it.

It is still being used by combinational therapy doctors, per a later report in

around 2010. It was noted vit c has emotionally charged past. But for cancer

at least, the taking orally will not work, per the study as the levels would be

limited by digestive absorption, and that means too low to be in the sweet spot

of effectiveness. But it is avail for about $100/session IV drip vitamin C.

Not sure all the uses, the list is long.

Be aware: " proven " means it works. " unproven " does not mean it does not work,

just that we have no idea if it works.

bG

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> >

> > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

> >

> > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by

current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> >

> > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> >

> > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> >

> > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because

it reduced a systemic infection I had.

> >

> > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

> >

> > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

BG, it's my understanding that the administration of the brightest person to ever be an OCCIDENTAL matriculant had the practice of IV VitC outlawed during the recent H1N1 debacle. I may be mistaken, but probably not. Jim

From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 7:40:26 PMSubject: Re: Thinking Out Loud Here

this is interesting, thanks. I found some info from NIH with an in-vitro study on cancer that looked very good. But dated 2005, and there's not really a followup study I could find on it. It is still being used by combinational therapy doctors, per a later report in around 2010. It was noted vit c has emotionally charged past. But for cancer at least, the taking orally will not work, per the study as the levels would be limited by digestive absorption, and that means too low to be in the sweet spot of effectiveness. But it is avail for about $100/session IV drip vitamin C. Not sure all the uses, the list is long.Be aware: "proven" means it works. "unproven" does not mean it does not work, just that we have no idea if it works.bG> >> > Hello All,> > > > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.> > > > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.> > > > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.> > > > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime. > > > > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection. > > > > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because it reduced a systemic infection I had.> > > > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce accumulated plaque.> > > > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?> >>

[Guest guest]

It turns out that the LDL cholesterol doesn't just stick to arteries because

it's there, it actually has a function, which is to protect arteries that have

become inflamed and potentially leaky. Inflammation is the culprit for causing

the plaque to form because inflammation damages the arterial lining. There are

cardiologists now who are admitting they have been wrong about cholesterol being

the bad guy. Elevated triglycerides are the danger. Eating sugar and other

refined foods raise triglyceride levels.

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> > >

> > > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

> > >

> > > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected

by current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> > >

> > > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> > >

> > > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because

it reduced a systemic infection I had.

> > >

> > > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

> > >

> > > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

the You Tube video " sugar, the bitter truth " is interesting in this regard. the

Dr. points out that elevated LDL levels alone cannot predict, but high LDL and

high triglycerides are what is looked for in analyzing results. If that is the

situation, it indicates presence of small, dense LDL which is the one that is

capable of plaque formation. Testing for small dense LDL directly is expensive,

but looking for the combination is not, and is predictive.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Hello All,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> > > >

> > > > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

> > > >

> > > > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected

by current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> > > >

> > > > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> > > >

> > > > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque

because it reduced a systemic infection I had.

> > > >

> > > > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

> > > >

> > > > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are mistaken.

http://www.truthistreason.net/fda-moves-to-ban-injectable-vitamin-c-furthering-d\

estorying-the-health-of-americans

> > >

> > > Hello All,

> > >

> > > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> > >

> > > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

> >pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I

have

> >a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this

was a

> >no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

> >problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

> >health.

> > >

> > > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected

by

> >current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> > >

> > > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

> >sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> >

> > >

> > > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> > >

> > > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because

it

> >reduced a systemic infection I had.

> > >

> > > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

> >accumulated plaque.

> > >

> > > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

and I'm glad your are mistaken! I used to think Clint Eastwood's father was

Stan Laurel, a popular bit of urban legend.

bG

> > > >

> > > > Hello All,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> > > >

> > > > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

> > >pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I

have

> > >a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this

was a

> > >no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

> > >problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve

artery

> > >health.

> > > >

> > > > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected

by

> > >current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the

arteries.

> > > >

> > > > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

> > >sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque

because it

> > >reduced a systemic infection I had.

> > > >

> > > > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

> > >accumulated plaque.

> > > >

> > > > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Liposomal vitamin C, where the vitamin is encased in lecithin, is supposed to be

well tolerated and very well utilized. High levels, beyond bowel tolerance, can

be achieved. There is a form of C, ascorbyl palmitate, that I believe has a long

loitering time in the body and goes into fat tissue. I use the one by Life

Enhancement.

WRT lysine and arginine, if you have type II herpes, like me, anytime you eat

nuts or seeds (beans, popcorn), both high in arginine, taking lysine will

prevent the herpes from breaking out. The virus will use the lysine, instead of

arginine, to build its membrane and that will kill it. I always take a couple

grams of lysine daily and it does work well. But if I forget to take it a

breakout can occur. The ideal ratio is two to one, two grams lysine for each

gram of arginine. I have been doing this for 16 years.

Peace and gratitude, Dean

> >

> > Hello All,

> >

> > Thanks BJ. I will soon be posting a recent success story.

> >

> > Starting about 20 years ago, I have been encouraged by the licensed drug

pushers to start taking choleterol reducing drugs. Besides the fact that I have

a distinct distate for drugs, legal or not, something else was saying this was a

no-no. Well, now they are saying that cholesterol may not be the biggest

problem, and that lowering this assumed problem child may not improve artery

health.

> >

> > OK, the latest idea is that a systemic infection, too low to be detected by

current methods, may be part and parcel of plaque gathering in the arteries.

> >

> > My artery blockage went from 40% to 37% over a 6 month period with my

sustained effort to stay on a high vitamin C and lysine regime.

> >

> > Vitamin C, it is well established, fights infection.

> >

> > Therefore, I theorize that the vitamin C therapy reduced my plaque because

it reduced a systemic infection I had.

> >

> > And I furthermore theorize that electrofying the blood would also reduce

accumulated plaque.

> >

> > Anybody have any comments on how to best electrofy the blood?

> >

>