Guest guest Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 it's not that useful. you have to apply considerable current to an outbreak area, not the whole area which would be too much total current. bG > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks bg, what I mean't was that I do know where my outbreak area is. It's just that after some months of ozone therapy I haven't had an outbreak for about 2 months. I feel that the virus is still there by the tingling and itching at times. Could I apply the godzilla as you would if there was a current outbreak. One electrode on the outbreak area and one on the lower spine and alternating between pos and neg? Just wondering if this was as effective as when the virus has an active OB. many thanks A > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I would think it could help. And if it were me, I would try it for sure. bG > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks BG, I'll keep you and the group posted on my progress. Many thanks for the encouraging information. A > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Update after 1 week of Godzilla use for HSV2. I am using a DC power supply rather that a battery. I have not metered the current but I am adjusting the voltage to where it feels comfortable but being sure not to exceed 6v. I mostly seem to be running it at around 5v. I am using the sponges but now have tens type pads that I will upgrade to. I have been treating at the outbreak site and base of the spine for approx 1 week for 20 mins in the morning and 20 mins at night. So far I have noted that all viral activity (itching and tingling) seems to have subsided. Prior I have not broken out for about 2 months but seem to constantly get a minor skin tingle at the site. I currently feel like I am hurting the virus. I have an ozone machine also and will now start rectal insufflation 3 times per week to treat the blood. I feel this is working!! I will keep you all posted and my fingers crossed. WBC > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 just quick note, sounds good. I am hoping your successes continue. for now, why not skip the ozone and see how this does by itself for you. the virus does not live in the bloodstream but in the nerves. you can always do that later, but for now you are doing enough rigorous treatment, don't burn yourself out, enjoy the freedom a bit or you body may begin to protest. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Ok BG, that is a great suggestion regarding the ozone I anticipate treating this way for about a month. I may taper off a little after the second week as the skin on my lower back is slightly tender so I want to avoid damaging it. Any other suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated! I'm looking forward to having freedom from this! WBC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 you can cut this down to every 3 days if you want, I doubt it will make any difference and will give skin a break. skin tenderness means a lot of current is passing through for a lot of time. You can trim this back and pick it up later as needed, but you would be wise to cut it out for a few days and let the skin recover fully. I have found that my own cold sores never recur, and I only use it for colds and oral health. This spills over enough current to keep the herpes under tight control or gone fully. You do not have to fully eradicate it, just keep to where it never comes out again. All virus must have a host cell and some of it may be inside them, and will never come out for the next 20 years. If they do, your occasional usage will assure no damage to you. cold sores give you alzheimer's so be sure you use the device around the nose and mouth area with one electrode on back of neck. Now, I may still have cold sore virus, but it's unlikely I will get Alzheimer's which would require a lot more virus around. Genital herpes, unless your brain is somewhere down there, should not result in Alzheimer's, so you having it under control is going to improve your life a lot, but will not save it from danger, as my cold sore treatment could.. it's all perspective bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Thank you for your great response. May I ask you to comment on the shedding of the virus. If it never bothers me , would it still be possible to pass it on to a partner? I know there is never a guarantee but my thinking is that if it stays in remission then it does not shed particles to the skin surface. WBC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 There is no 100% method to ensure NO germs get in. Instead public health prevention schemes shoot for a certain number of virus. Below that number infection is acceptably unlikely It takes a certain number of virus to infect someone. This is due to skin protection along with random factors of where the virus lands, if it can connect to a host cell before it dies off. There are formal studies of this number conducted for HIV, and probably many other germs to determine the level of virus so that preventions can be designed to limit the virus to a certain number and therefore expect to reduce the infection rate to an acceptable level. I hate to say it, but you may find this out more certainly than I could guess at. One smart thing would be to use the device prior to an encounter, so that whatever it does to the virus would be applied as prevention in addition to treatment. It is the same result of the device. Some of the virus would become " inert " and might trigger an immune response, and thus provide additional protection. I have often wondered what it does to use the device on an early-stage cold, while one is still infective...do the germs so neutralized get into other people as " vaccines " ? Just interesting. The nunbers of such germs is very small since they cannot reproduce to significant levels once treated by the device. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 also, herpes hides from the immune system. many people may already be immune to it, but by the time the immune system wakes up and attacks it, it has already caused pain and become infective. Point is, don't count on immunity to do other than keep you alive with herpes. Once you get older and immunity weakens, then it may enter brain and cause Alzheimer's. See you tube dr. joe prendergast on vitamin D. His talk is quite interesting, covers some aspects of immunity and cancer which seem to have strong connection to mega-vitamin D dosing. He does not mention specific prescription Vitamin-D doses, but they are usually 50,000 units PER PILL, one pill per WEEK. You can get 1000 units sprays which will give same effects due to better absorption with the spray than the pill. This could help keep the immune system alert and on guard, making the spread much less likely, in my opinion. Am I behind it? not really, since i like to have strong reports from many sources to trust anything fully. But you could add to the arsenal vitamin D spray cheaply, at least. Dr. Joe can talk better than I can, and I believe that HE is solidly behind it. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.)Once you have HSV2, take 500mg of lysine per day for prophylaxis (only avoids outbreaks), and avoid large doses of arginine. If you OD on dark chocolate and start to get an outbreak, take 1500mg/day to help heal it ASAP.Second - Vitamin D - My Hugs uses this 5000 iu dry capsule. (http://www.vitalady.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action & key=1115X100) It's effective, easily absorbed and inexpensive (oil filled caps are poorly absorbed, and dose is too large to be absorbed all at once). He takes 4X day for arthritis and immune. He's nowhere near too much - US reference ranges are way too low. Worldwide, researchers have found that we need much higher levels.I take 50,000 iu 3X day (from same place), but I have extreme malabsorption. Not for normal people. ;o)I'm not a doc, just study nutrition, mostly due to my malabsorption and maldigestion. H in Washington State Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. e, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (e's third law)English physicist & science fiction author (1917 - 2008) From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:07 AMSubject: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2 also, herpes hides from the immune system. many people may already be immune to it, but by the time the immune system wakes up and attacks it, it has already caused pain and become infective. Point is, don't count on immunity to do other than keep you alive with herpes. Once you get older and immunity weakens, then it may enter brain and cause Alzheimer's. See you tube dr. joe prendergast on vitamin D. His talk is quite interesting, covers some aspects of immunity and cancer which seem to have strong connection to mega-vitamin D dosing. He does not mention specific prescription Vitamin-D doses, but they are usually 50,000 units PER PILL, one pill per WEEK. You can get 1000 units sprays which will give same effects due to better absorption with the spray than the pill. This could help keep the immune system alert and on guard, making the spread much less likely, in my opinion. Am I behind it? not really, since i like to have strong reports from many sources to trust anything fully. But you could add to the arsenal vitamin D spray cheaply, at least. Dr. Joe can talk better than I can, and I believe that HE is solidly behind it. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd just revise that a little bit. It is true that one can be shedding and therefore contagious when asymptomatic. But some people are only contagious when they are showing symptoms. You just can't really tell without testing.Worse, about 90% of HSV2 sufferers don't realize they have it, as many people have it and don't have any symptoms, ever. The problem is that some of these people (I suspect not most of them) are spreading the virus and have absolutely no clue. Others have some symptoms, but haven't connected the dots yet or are in denial.Whether microelectricity applications or other alternative treatments can cure this virus or not is something I'd be extremely interested in, but have no way to get a definitive answer. We sure aren't going to get one from the drug companies or our family doctors.I have taken 800 mg acyclovir 1X daily since I was diagnosed. Since that time I have had no outbreaks at all. I believe that I am one of those who do not shed unless having a breakout. When I was diagnosed, I informed my partners/former partners and they all tested negative. From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@...>Subject: Re: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2" " < >Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 2:13 PM First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 You might want to try this and report results, otherwise you are right, no one will tell you if it works or not. Our menu/files have some reports and we need more of them. It would help if all herpes sufferers on this group could pitch in and let's get this done, it's taking forever due to lack of venturesomeness. You can sit back or act, I don't care. but if you want to know it will need an experiment plain and simple. I don't think there's any problem of drug interference here if anyone needs to stay on meds, but take it slowly and observe for it. best of luck, bG - > Whether microelectricity applications or other alternative treatments can cure this virus or not is something I'd be extremely interested in, but have no way to get a definitive answer. We sure aren't going to get one from the drug companies or our family doctors. > > I have taken 800 mg acyclovir 1X daily since I was diagnosed. Since that time I have had no outbreaks at all. I believe that I am one of those who do not shed unless having a breakout. When I was diagnosed, I informed my partners/former partners and they all tested negative. > > > > From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2 > " " < > > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 2:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 My thinking is that if you are actually effecting/damaging the virus to the point where it is inactive then the shedding by rights should cease. If I am not damaging the virus then there must be some other effect of the Godzilla. In my recent experience it sure feels that I have damaged the virus as many of my minor symptoms seem to have subsided. I have spent many months prior working on my immune system and I know it has improved as the Lymphocites in my latest blood test had risen. No proof of this and time of course will tell. > > > > From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@> > > Subject: Re: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2 > > " " < > > > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 2:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 well could be. the other likely story is the virus gets a surface charge that becomes the same polarity as host cells, so they repel. Other than that, the virus might remain unchanged. so long as it holds the charge at the same polarity then the virus would be repelled from any host cells, and would simply die off. they can either multiply or die off. so we just don't have any information on what exactly is the mediation step responsible for what we are seeing. bG > > > > > > From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2 > > > " " < > > > > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 2:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 virus has a natural need to infect a host cell, or it dies. in order to infect, it has 2 steps: 1, attachment 2, bonding 1, attachment is done by static charge much like the way bits of paper are attracted to a comb after you comb your hair on a dry day. NO energy from the virus or the host cell is required. This is purely a surface electrical charge that the virus and host cell have in a resting state. 2, bonding can only occur AFTER attachment. No attachment, no bonding. Bonding requires a host cell that is constructed so that the viruses bonding surfaces line up correctly with the host cells bonding surfaces. Certain viruses can only bond to certain host cells. This is why a cold in in the nose, HIV infects the CD4 T-cells, hep-C the liver cells, etc. Once a virus gets attached and bonded, it can then infect, or enter the host cell. And there are a variety of ways it can accomplish that. The low levels of current we are using, current that has such minimal or non-existent effects on host cells and the rest of the body, probably is only having a very minor effect on virus, such at changing the surface charge so that attachment is impeded or stopped. This is a functional eradication of the virus through a " virus contraceptive " method, essentially. bG > > > > > > > > From: Hawkridge <rayehawk@> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Godzilla use on HSV2 > > > > " " < > > > > > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 2:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First - no symptoms (remission) does NOT mean no shedding! HSV2 is contagious when asymptomatic - you cannot tell when you're shedding. (Don't even ask how I know.) > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I occasionally get a shingles/herpes zoster outbreak on the outside of my right hand. If I'm to treat with a godzilla, do I put one electrode on my hand and one on the back of my neck? KH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 that's the general idea, lookup the exact insertion point for the nerves and place the second electrode there, I guess it's back of neck? Just double check that. If it is a herpes/nerves virus, that may be interesting to see what happens with it. bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Just reporting progress. Had the sign of an outbreak coming by means of a numb or burning sensation in my left thigh. It was a little different to normal in some way. 1 day later an outbreak ensued in the 2 places where I normally get them. I used anti virals and Godzilla and after 2 days the outbreak is just about gone and no skin breakage at all. I'm not sure whether to put this down to the Godzilla or the anti virals or even a combination of both. I tried to hit the outbreak a little more than normal with the Zilla so as to damage it whilst it was out of dormancy. I am continuing to use the Godzilla everyday at the moment due to the recent outbreak. I will continue to report progress. WBC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Hi, thanks for being responsible and helpful to the research effort. This is great, can I ask one question here? what would be the normal course of the outbreak with using ONLY the anti-virals. I mean the speed, severity and stability of recovery using just anti-virals alone versus what happened using both godzilla and anti-virals? tnx bG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 this is the first time I have used the anti virals except for my initial outbreak 10 months ago. I normally use lysine in high doses when there is an outbreak and it usually takes around 10 days to heal. This morning you can barely see the red spot. I'm going for victory though and thought that with the anti virals slowing down the replication coupled with the Godzilla I may be able to chip away at eradicating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi does anybody know if the Godzilla is useful on HSV2 infection whilst the virus is still dormant with no visible outbreak? > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so what protocol would you recommend. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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