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I had done WW and quit and gained all of my weight back. HUGE bummmer! BFL

seemed like so much food to be eating so I calculated my points for an average

day and I was at the very low end of my range. After that I haven't lokked back

to the WW way of life. I din't excersize at all on WW, lost 10% of my body

weight and still ate very poorly. It's pretty easy to find ways to " cheat " and

still be in range. MY friend and I would weigh in and then go eat frozen yogurt.

I love BFL and think WW was just not hte program for me.

more questions!

Hope someone can answer this one......Is Weight Watchers similar in

any way to BFL? I have done WW before and just wondered if it is

possible to follow it and continue to workout with the BFL program.

Another question I have to anyone just starting out......when did you

notice a difference whether it is weight or measurements? I know not

to rely on the scale to tell me whether I have made progress. I did

however measure myself today (week 3) just to see if I had succeeded

in any area. I was surprised at the measurements that I got. If they

are correct, I have lost a total of 6 1/4 inches off the total of

bust, waist, hips, thighs, calves and arms. Could this be correct?

I appreciate the responses that I receive. They really do help me

through this process of a total body transformation. Thanks all!

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OP: Hope someone can answer this one......Is Weight Watchers similar

in any way to BFL? I have done WW before and just wondered if it is

possible to follow it and continue to workout with the BFL program.

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IMHO, and the opinions of most of the ladies here, you will probably

find that we all feel BFL is far superior. Like comparing a 1/25th

model kit to a DeLorean type superior.

But one thing that WW has, that BFL doesn't (at least until you join

an excellent BFL community such as this one) is their one on one, IN

PERSON emotional and mental support.

Those " weigh-ins, " AA type meetings and F2F support is, (imho) the

most likely reason that WW is successful, that and some of it's user

friendly programs like the " points " program.

I am strongly of the opinion that emotional change and support is at

LEAST (if not more) just as important as the 10 level workouts and

the clean eating in assisting people in reaching their fat loss goals.

If WW provides that emotional support, and gives you success? I'd

say go for it. I think the two can be incorporated (after all, you

don't HAVE to confess that you're really eating BFL and not going by

the points system do you?). For the F2F support alone, I'd be

willing to give WW a try.

But like one of the other members replying to this post, I don't like

the wimpy or near non-existent belief in exercise that WW seems to

foster.

Whose first thought when she hit the ground and shattered her fibula

was " OH MY GOD, and I had such a good LBW tonite too, NOW how am I

gonna exercise " ?

............And who is NOW discovering that " wheelchairing "

and " crutching " are not only physically exhausting, but have lost her

a total of 5 POUNDS (or a NOTICEABLE loosening in her size 10s) over

the past 10 days since her surgery!!!!

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Hi ,

I can only peak from my experience and sometimes I feel extremely

relaxed after LL and other times I feel energized. I have never had

any sharp pains during LL. As far as I know, LL is something that can

only help relieve cramps !! Keep breathing easily and comfortably.

I know it took me a while to figure out how to do LL slowly. The key

for me is to just keep doing it !

Love,

>

> hey everyone I have a few more questions.

>

> 1. is it normal to feel badly like drained sometimes in result of

> doing LL.. like is it normal to feel bad while detoxifying? how long

> does this last?

>

> 2. is it normal to have sharp cramps in my ovary area while doing

LL?

> (i am close to starting my period though I'm not on it I had some

> sharp pains)

>

> 3. is it ok to do LL while on your period?

>

>

> _heather

>

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OOPS ! Typo -- I meant " speak " :)

> >

> > hey everyone I have a few more questions.

> >

> > 1. is it normal to feel badly like drained sometimes in result

of

> > doing LL.. like is it normal to feel bad while detoxifying? how

long

> > does this last?

> >

> > 2. is it normal to have sharp cramps in my ovary area while

doing

> LL?

> > (i am close to starting my period though I'm not on it I had

some

> > sharp pains)

> >

> > 3. is it ok to do LL while on your period?

> >

> >

> > _heather

> >

>

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Hi ,

You should never feel badly after doing LL. I wonder if you are making the

breathing harsher than it should be. LL is naturally healing and soothing.

If you are feeling discomfort after your breaths I would encourage you to

sit and just watch Rashelle on the video and see if you are mimicking her or

if you have gone on to do your own thing. Many of us do that at times and

we have to fall back on our fearless leader :)

Remember that you are trying to nurture your body. Think of that golden

straw and how special you are and how good you are being to your body. Take

your time with your breaths......this isn't a race :) Many of us have come

here from other breathing programs and it is so easy to fall back on those

breathing patterns.....which are not in the least nurturing. So make sure

you are doing the LL and not something else.

I've been doing LL for years and the only time I ever felt badly was when I

either rushed the breaths or was rasping instead of pahhing...does that make

sense? Remember, you want to be kind to your body sweetie :)

hugs,

Jenni

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> hey everyone I have a few more questions.

>

> 1. is it normal to feel badly like drained sometimes in result of

> doing LL.. like is it normal to feel bad while detoxifying? how long

> does this last?

>

> 2. is it normal to have sharp cramps in my ovary area while doing LL?

> (i am close to starting my period though I'm not on it I had some

> sharp pains)

>

> 3. is it ok to do LL while on your period?

>

>

> _heather

>

>

>

> What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything!

> See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best!

> http://www.lifelift.net

>

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We have a PANDAS diagnosis also.

Pamela

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

monicabicefl

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:14 PM

Subject: more questions!

Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

Why do some children need SCID?

Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

out)

Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

I know I can think of dozens more...

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We have a PANDAS diagnosis also.

Pamela

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

monicabicefl

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:14 PM

Subject: more questions!

Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

Why do some children need SCID?

Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

out)

Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

I know I can think of dozens more...

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It's a choice that varies by patient and by family over which one,

Subcutaneous or IV immune globulin, works. They are both Immune Globulin,

but IVIG is once every 3-4 weeks, and SubQ (or SCIG) is once a week

infusion given into the fatty layer under the skin with several needles

(and usually done by a parent at home). There is a lot of information in

previous posts, and you can look at them at the website. I

did that when I first joined :) SCID is Severe Combined Immune

Deficiency, so I think that was a typo?

There is some literature that mentions cancer MAY be increased slightly in

immune dfeiciency, but autoimmune disease is much more commonly associated

with CVID.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906562/

From

http://www.immunedisease.com/patients-and-families/about-pi/types-of-pi/common-v\

ariable-immunodeficiency-cvid.html

<<Finally, patients with CVID may have an increased risk of cancer,

especially cancer of the lymphoid system, skin and gastrointestinal

tract.>>

I am more familiar with CVID, since that is my child's diagnosis.

Mindy, mom of , 9

> Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

>

> Why do some children need SCID?

>

> Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

>

> Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

> out)

>

> Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

>

> I know I can think of dozens more...

>

>

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It's a choice that varies by patient and by family over which one,

Subcutaneous or IV immune globulin, works. They are both Immune Globulin,

but IVIG is once every 3-4 weeks, and SubQ (or SCIG) is once a week

infusion given into the fatty layer under the skin with several needles

(and usually done by a parent at home). There is a lot of information in

previous posts, and you can look at them at the website. I

did that when I first joined :) SCID is Severe Combined Immune

Deficiency, so I think that was a typo?

There is some literature that mentions cancer MAY be increased slightly in

immune dfeiciency, but autoimmune disease is much more commonly associated

with CVID.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906562/

From

http://www.immunedisease.com/patients-and-families/about-pi/types-of-pi/common-v\

ariable-immunodeficiency-cvid.html

<<Finally, patients with CVID may have an increased risk of cancer,

especially cancer of the lymphoid system, skin and gastrointestinal

tract.>>

I am more familiar with CVID, since that is my child's diagnosis.

Mindy, mom of , 9

> Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

>

> Why do some children need SCID?

>

> Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

>

> Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

> out)

>

> Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

>

> I know I can think of dozens more...

>

>

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Some patients are on IVIG every two weeks due to either volume or poor

absorption. Plus some get IVIG at home.

Ursula

On May 15, 2011, at 10:16 PM, mindy@... wrote:

> It's a choice that varies by patient and by family over which one,

> Subcutaneous or IV immune globulin, works. They are both Immune Globulin,

> but IVIG is once every 3-4 weeks, and SubQ (or SCIG) is once a week

> infusion given into the fatty layer under the skin with several needles

> (and usually done by a parent at home). There is a lot of information in

> previous posts, and you can look at them at the website. I

> did that when I first joined :) SCID is Severe Combined Immune

> Deficiency, so I think that was a typo?

>

> There is some literature that mentions cancer MAY be increased slightly in

> immune dfeiciency, but autoimmune disease is much more commonly associated

> with CVID.

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906562/

>

> From

>

http://www.immunedisease.com/patients-and-families/about-pi/types-of-pi/common-v\

ariable-immunodeficiency-cvid.html

> <<Finally, patients with CVID may have an increased risk of cancer,

> especially cancer of the lymphoid system, skin and gastrointestinal

> tract.>>

>

> I am more familiar with CVID, since that is my child's diagnosis.

>

> Mindy, mom of , 9

>

> > Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

> >

> > Why do some children need SCID?

> >

> > Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

> >

> > Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

> > out)

> >

> > Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

> >

> > I know I can think of dozens more...

> >

> >

>

>

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Some patients are on IVIG every two weeks due to either volume or poor

absorption. Plus some get IVIG at home.

Ursula

On May 15, 2011, at 10:16 PM, mindy@... wrote:

> It's a choice that varies by patient and by family over which one,

> Subcutaneous or IV immune globulin, works. They are both Immune Globulin,

> but IVIG is once every 3-4 weeks, and SubQ (or SCIG) is once a week

> infusion given into the fatty layer under the skin with several needles

> (and usually done by a parent at home). There is a lot of information in

> previous posts, and you can look at them at the website. I

> did that when I first joined :) SCID is Severe Combined Immune

> Deficiency, so I think that was a typo?

>

> There is some literature that mentions cancer MAY be increased slightly in

> immune dfeiciency, but autoimmune disease is much more commonly associated

> with CVID.

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1906562/

>

> From

>

http://www.immunedisease.com/patients-and-families/about-pi/types-of-pi/common-v\

ariable-immunodeficiency-cvid.html

> <<Finally, patients with CVID may have an increased risk of cancer,

> especially cancer of the lymphoid system, skin and gastrointestinal

> tract.>>

>

> I am more familiar with CVID, since that is my child's diagnosis.

>

> Mindy, mom of , 9

>

> > Are there other options besides/ in addition to IVIG or SCIG?

> >

> > Why do some children need SCID?

> >

> > Is there any research on stem cell therapy?

> >

> > Anyone familiar with PANDAS? (we are soon to see a specialist to rule this

> > out)

> >

> > Do our kids have an increased risk for cancer?

> >

> > I know I can think of dozens more...

> >

> >

>

>

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Thank you for the responses, I have now set it up and am off and running.

Have a couple of more questions:

How long do you get from the battery? Is it still 'running' while your not using

it or does it only drain when your touching the skin with it wet? Im wondering

if when I stop using it I need to take off the cotton or just leave it?

Has anyone tried using the godzilla for iontophoretic drug delivery? Ive read

that .5mA - 1mA is the current used.

Cheers,

Sam

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well you get what you get. It should be a LONG time, but your main issue will

be keeping the wires from fraying and breaking, the contacts from corroding, and

so on. These holders are points of failure after awhile, usually before the

batteries go in my own experience.

You would keep the electrodes separated and not touching conductive surfaces

like metal table tops, wet areas, etc. You might place them on a sheet of

plastic wrap or plastic bags. Electricity follows wet or metallic pathways.

to use for iontophoretic drugs you should probably get a power control like a

100k ohm linear potentiometer, wire that in, and a meter in line to show you the

current being used.

If you do all that you could then use a 9 volt battery since you have the

potentiometer to control output.

Iontophoretic drugs I think usually use the positive DC terminal only.

But you should check it out quite a bit to be sure you have the same setup. I

agree it's not worth paying hundreds when you can use a simple battery to do

same thing.

bG

>

> Thank you for the responses, I have now set it up and am off and running.

> Have a couple of more questions:

>

> How long do you get from the battery? Is it still 'running' while your not

using it or does it only drain when your touching the skin with it wet? Im

wondering if when I stop using it I need to take off the cotton or just leave

it?

>

> Has anyone tried using the godzilla for iontophoretic drug delivery? Ive read

that .5mA - 1mA is the current used.

>

> Cheers,

> Sam

>

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I think the holders are a good thing, but the wires on them are very thin and

somewhat fragile. One good solution is take a second heavier wire like an

extension cord, and twist it to the finer wires of the holder and tape it

solidly to the holder so there is no strain on the fine wires. They will

conduct plenty of power, that is no problem, but heavier wires hold up much

better and also make better contact with the sponges or cloths than would the

finer wires from the holder.

Have fun with this thing, serious as it is, it is still fun putting your

godzilla up against your monsters in the body (local infections). :)

bG

> >

> > Thank you for the responses, I have now set it up and am off and running.

> > Have a couple of more questions:

> >

> > How long do you get from the battery? Is it still 'running' while your not

using it or does it only drain when your touching the skin with it wet? Im

wondering if when I stop using it I need to take off the cotton or just leave

it?

> >

> > Has anyone tried using the godzilla for iontophoretic drug delivery? Ive

read that .5mA - 1mA is the current used.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Sam

> >

>

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