Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 I still get mad at things but nowhere near what it was!! got a ticket one evening and I got so mad I started to walk home (75 miles) he had to come after me. I was just crazy, since then he has got 4 more and I took it fine!! well not fine, I said one more and he's out of here!! and 3 of them were not his fault, but they pick on big rigs. it is just so aggravating to give some state the money we work so hard for!! CAROL Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves Or Lift Me Above Them; It's Too Late To Learn To Swim. Crowley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 http://www.looksmart.com/r_search?l & izbe & key=microhydrin CAROL Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves Or Lift Me Above Them; It's Too Late To Learn To Swim. Crowley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 http://www.looksmart.com/r_search?l & izbe & key=microhydrin CAROL Dear Lord, Either Quiet The Waves Or Lift Me Above Them; It's Too Late To Learn To Swim. Crowley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Mark, Sadly, I have to agree with you... to a degree I am working with my primary care physician, my gastroenterologist, and the assistant who is overseeing the Hepatitis C treatment as well as the Be In Charge program nurse... out of the three of them, none of them can say the same thing about anything. One might say take multi-vitamins, and the other says, stay away from vitamin supplements. One might say you can't fully eliminate red meat, you need that sort of protein, the other says stay away from it... it's a no win situation in many areas when it comes to this disease. No one can agree on medicines either --- go figure, I dunno, but it doesn't leave me with a very secure feeling to say the least. Princess www.studioreflections.com Re: > > Treatment and the drugs that go with it > > > > > > Mark, > > Hi, > > > > My name is Dana. I am not an expert, but I do > > half to > > take other medications. I go to a Nurologist > to > > perscribe these medications. He knows which > > ones > > brake down mostly in the Kidneys versus the > > Liver. > > The Anti-depressant I had to be on during > > treatment > > due to suicidle thought and taking an > overdose. > > I > > know that they still effect the liver. But > some > > people have different reactions and > tolerations > > due to > > effects. I think that it is more, which is > > better for > > that individual. If you are going to wind up > > commiting suiside on treatment, perhaps and > > anti-depressant is a better option. But a > good > > Doctor > > know which medicines brake down which way and > > test for > > it. Dana > > --- mark <arizdare@...> wrote: > > > I'm stating my opinion.....obviously from > your > > > previous email you said you took anti > > depressants, > > > therefore you are rationalizing. Thats' > fine > > but > > > ALL > > > drugs are metabolized in the liver and all I > > am > > > saying > > > is I will try and give my body the best > chance > > to > > > get > > > rid of this disease. > > > > > > People think you're some kind of expert > > because you > > > have a web page and you're not. I read all > > the > > > depression from people on the newsgroups. I > > am > > > experiencing the side effects of the combo. > > Have > > > you > > > told the people of the side effects from > these > > > various > > > anti depressants? Most of these doctors > > prescribing > > > this crap don't tell the side effects. > > > > > > After being a cop in the ghettos of Chicago > > for many > > > years I see no difference between the > > so-called dope > > > dealers on the streets and these doctors > (feel > > > good). > > > What do they do when you go to them moaning > > and > > > groaning...write a script. > > > > > > This peg combo is doing damage to our > systems > > as > > > well. > > > Many have their thyroid destroyed and have > to > > take > > > thyroid medicine for the rest of their > lives. > > I > > > think > > > there are enough side effects with the peg > and > > the > > > last thing I will put into my body is some > > other > > > drugs > > > (with side effects) to counter act the side > > effects > > > of > > > the peg. > > > > > > I guess we could take an indefinite number > of > > drugs > > > to > > > counter act the side effects of all the > drugs > > until > > > we're dead. > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > --- leighannv <no_reply > > > wrote: > > > > Mark the NIH advises, and will come out > with > > their > > > > new Consensus > > > > Statement tomorrow on this issue, that > > > > anti-depressants WILL help > > > > patients get through treatment. > > > > > > > > Taking herbal remedies can be much more > > dangerous > > > to > > > > the liver, and > > > > as I stated, this isn't a life time > > prescription. > > > It > > > > is to help > > > > maintain a quazi-normal life while on > > treatment. > > > > > > > > Just as with alcohol and drugs, the liver > > will > > > > re-generate after > > > > these are removed from the system. If > > > > anti-depressants are taken > > > > according to dosage, and > again...moderation > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2002 Report Share Posted June 14, 2002 Mark, Sadly, I have to agree with you... to a degree I am working with my primary care physician, my gastroenterologist, and the assistant who is overseeing the Hepatitis C treatment as well as the Be In Charge program nurse... out of the three of them, none of them can say the same thing about anything. One might say take multi-vitamins, and the other says, stay away from vitamin supplements. One might say you can't fully eliminate red meat, you need that sort of protein, the other says stay away from it... it's a no win situation in many areas when it comes to this disease. No one can agree on medicines either --- go figure, I dunno, but it doesn't leave me with a very secure feeling to say the least. Princess www.studioreflections.com Re: > > Treatment and the drugs that go with it > > > > > > Mark, > > Hi, > > > > My name is Dana. I am not an expert, but I do > > half to > > take other medications. I go to a Nurologist > to > > perscribe these medications. He knows which > > ones > > brake down mostly in the Kidneys versus the > > Liver. > > The Anti-depressant I had to be on during > > treatment > > due to suicidle thought and taking an > overdose. > > I > > know that they still effect the liver. But > some > > people have different reactions and > tolerations > > due to > > effects. I think that it is more, which is > > better for > > that individual. If you are going to wind up > > commiting suiside on treatment, perhaps and > > anti-depressant is a better option. But a > good > > Doctor > > know which medicines brake down which way and > > test for > > it. Dana > > --- mark <arizdare@...> wrote: > > > I'm stating my opinion.....obviously from > your > > > previous email you said you took anti > > depressants, > > > therefore you are rationalizing. Thats' > fine > > but > > > ALL > > > drugs are metabolized in the liver and all I > > am > > > saying > > > is I will try and give my body the best > chance > > to > > > get > > > rid of this disease. > > > > > > People think you're some kind of expert > > because you > > > have a web page and you're not. I read all > > the > > > depression from people on the newsgroups. I > > am > > > experiencing the side effects of the combo. > > Have > > > you > > > told the people of the side effects from > these > > > various > > > anti depressants? Most of these doctors > > prescribing > > > this crap don't tell the side effects. > > > > > > After being a cop in the ghettos of Chicago > > for many > > > years I see no difference between the > > so-called dope > > > dealers on the streets and these doctors > (feel > > > good). > > > What do they do when you go to them moaning > > and > > > groaning...write a script. > > > > > > This peg combo is doing damage to our > systems > > as > > > well. > > > Many have their thyroid destroyed and have > to > > take > > > thyroid medicine for the rest of their > lives. > > I > > > think > > > there are enough side effects with the peg > and > > the > > > last thing I will put into my body is some > > other > > > drugs > > > (with side effects) to counter act the side > > effects > > > of > > > the peg. > > > > > > I guess we could take an indefinite number > of > > drugs > > > to > > > counter act the side effects of all the > drugs > > until > > > we're dead. > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > --- leighannv <no_reply > > > wrote: > > > > Mark the NIH advises, and will come out > with > > their > > > > new Consensus > > > > Statement tomorrow on this issue, that > > > > anti-depressants WILL help > > > > patients get through treatment. > > > > > > > > Taking herbal remedies can be much more > > dangerous > > > to > > > > the liver, and > > > > as I stated, this isn't a life time > > prescription. > > > It > > > > is to help > > > > maintain a quazi-normal life while on > > treatment. > > > > > > > > Just as with alcohol and drugs, the liver > > will > > > > re-generate after > > > > these are removed from the system. If > > > > anti-depressants are taken > > > > according to dosage, and > again...moderation > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 I don't know much yet. But I do know that an acquaintance of mine going through combo treatment is taking milk thistle and the side effects from the treatment has been minimal she claims. She eats like crap as well. She is in her 19th month of treatment and winning! I wouldn't sit there and cut down every possible vitamin and drug... it seems to me everyones body works differently. I also believe that " positive energy " plays a huge factor! xxx ooo <spiria_spirit@...> wrote: Princess, I was on Paxil first. But it did not help when I went on treatment. They switched me to effexor. Have you asked your doctor about changing the medication? Dana --- Princess <wistful@...> wrote: > I experienced rage before I even started the > treatment --- sometimes I thought I was nuts... I > have wanted to go off Paxil just in case that was > what is causing my headaches, but doctor says no. > > Princess > www.studioreflections.com > > > Re: > Treatment and the drugs that go with it > > > Mark, > Hi, > > My name is Dana. I am not an expert, but I do > half to > take other medications. I go to a Nurologist to > perscribe these medications. He knows which > ones > brake down mostly in the Kidneys versus the > Liver. > The Anti-depressant I had to be on during > treatment > due to suicidle thought and taking an overdose. > I > know that they still effect the liver. But some > people have different reactions and tolerations > due to > effects. I think that it is more, which is > better for > that individual. If you are going to wind up > commiting suiside on treatment, perhaps and > anti-depressant is a better option. But a good > Doctor > know which medicines brake down which way and > test for > it. Dana > --- mark <arizdare@...> wrote: > > I'm stating my opinion.....obviously from your > > previous email you said you took anti > depressants, > > therefore you are rationalizing. Thats' fine > but > > ALL > > drugs are metabolized in the liver and all I > am > > saying > > is I will try and give my body the best chance > to > > get > > rid of this disease. > > > > People think you're some kind of expert > because you > > have a web page and you're not. I read all > the > > depression from people on the newsgroups. I > am > > experiencing the side effects of the combo. > Have > > you > > told the people of the side effects from these > > various > > anti depressants? Most of these doctors > prescribing > > this crap don't tell the side effects. > > > > After being a cop in the ghettos of Chicago > for many > > years I see no difference between the > so-called dope > > dealers on the streets and these doctors (feel > > good). > > What do they do when you go to them moaning > and > > groaning...write a script. > > > > This peg combo is doing damage to our systems > as > > well. > > Many have their thyroid destroyed and have to > take > > thyroid medicine for the rest of their lives. > I > > think > > there are enough side effects with the peg and > the > > last thing I will put into my body is some > other > > drugs > > (with side effects) to counter act the side > effects > > of > > the peg. > > > > I guess we could take an indefinite number of > drugs > > to > > counter act the side effects of all the drugs > until > > we're dead. > > > > mark > > > > > > --- leighannv <no_reply > > wrote: > > > Mark the NIH advises, and will come out with > their > > > new Consensus > > > Statement tomorrow on this issue, that > > > anti-depressants WILL help > > > patients get through treatment. > > > > > > Taking herbal remedies can be much more > dangerous > > to > > > the liver, and > > > as I stated, this isn't a life time > prescription. > > It > > > is to help > > > maintain a quazi-normal life while on > treatment. > > > > > > Just as with alcohol and drugs, the liver > will > > > re-generate after > > > these are removed from the system. If > > > anti-depressants are taken > > > according to dosage, and again...moderation > is the > > > KEY word here, > > > they will NOT damage the liver to the extent > you > > are > > > advocating. > > > > > > LeighAnn > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2002 Report Share Posted June 15, 2002 I don't know much yet. But I do know that an acquaintance of mine going through combo treatment is taking milk thistle and the side effects from the treatment has been minimal she claims. She eats like crap as well. She is in her 19th month of treatment and winning! I wouldn't sit there and cut down every possible vitamin and drug... it seems to me everyones body works differently. I also believe that " positive energy " plays a huge factor! xxx ooo <spiria_spirit@...> wrote: Princess, I was on Paxil first. But it did not help when I went on treatment. They switched me to effexor. Have you asked your doctor about changing the medication? Dana --- Princess <wistful@...> wrote: > I experienced rage before I even started the > treatment --- sometimes I thought I was nuts... I > have wanted to go off Paxil just in case that was > what is causing my headaches, but doctor says no. > > Princess > www.studioreflections.com > > > Re: > Treatment and the drugs that go with it > > > Mark, > Hi, > > My name is Dana. I am not an expert, but I do > half to > take other medications. I go to a Nurologist to > perscribe these medications. He knows which > ones > brake down mostly in the Kidneys versus the > Liver. > The Anti-depressant I had to be on during > treatment > due to suicidle thought and taking an overdose. > I > know that they still effect the liver. But some > people have different reactions and tolerations > due to > effects. I think that it is more, which is > better for > that individual. If you are going to wind up > commiting suiside on treatment, perhaps and > anti-depressant is a better option. But a good > Doctor > know which medicines brake down which way and > test for > it. Dana > --- mark <arizdare@...> wrote: > > I'm stating my opinion.....obviously from your > > previous email you said you took anti > depressants, > > therefore you are rationalizing. Thats' fine > but > > ALL > > drugs are metabolized in the liver and all I > am > > saying > > is I will try and give my body the best chance > to > > get > > rid of this disease. > > > > People think you're some kind of expert > because you > > have a web page and you're not. I read all > the > > depression from people on the newsgroups. I > am > > experiencing the side effects of the combo. > Have > > you > > told the people of the side effects from these > > various > > anti depressants? Most of these doctors > prescribing > > this crap don't tell the side effects. > > > > After being a cop in the ghettos of Chicago > for many > > years I see no difference between the > so-called dope > > dealers on the streets and these doctors (feel > > good). > > What do they do when you go to them moaning > and > > groaning...write a script. > > > > This peg combo is doing damage to our systems > as > > well. > > Many have their thyroid destroyed and have to > take > > thyroid medicine for the rest of their lives. > I > > think > > there are enough side effects with the peg and > the > > last thing I will put into my body is some > other > > drugs > > (with side effects) to counter act the side > effects > > of > > the peg. > > > > I guess we could take an indefinite number of > drugs > > to > > counter act the side effects of all the drugs > until > > we're dead. > > > > mark > > > > > > --- leighannv <no_reply > > wrote: > > > Mark the NIH advises, and will come out with > their > > > new Consensus > > > Statement tomorrow on this issue, that > > > anti-depressants WILL help > > > patients get through treatment. > > > > > > Taking herbal remedies can be much more > dangerous > > to > > > the liver, and > > > as I stated, this isn't a life time > prescription. > > It > > > is to help > > > maintain a quazi-normal life while on > treatment. > > > > > > Just as with alcohol and drugs, the liver > will > > > re-generate after > > > these are removed from the system. If > > > anti-depressants are taken > > > according to dosage, and again...moderation > is the > > > KEY word here, > > > they will NOT damage the liver to the extent > you > > are > > > advocating. > > > > > > LeighAnn > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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