Charcot foot or CMT

[Guest guest]

YES, there IS a difference! Try one of the bigger search engines or

under orthopedics. I have seen many refs. While I have CMT, my feet can

burn, small dose Elavil works tremendously well but what works great are

ice bags, ice packs or even frozen peas - just for a few minutes,but

stops the 'burn'!

iron-dyespin@... wrote:

>

> Is there a difference between CMT and something called Charcot Joint or

> Charcot Foot?

[Guest guest]

Charcot foot is not CMT. From what I remember it was named after one of the

doctors that discovered it. I also believe it was the same Dr. Charcot that

named CMT. I could be shaky on the facts but not the part about CMT not being

Charcot Marie Tooth.

[Guest guest]

If you refer to the article that I posted, it says Charcot joints are caused by

neuropathy. The most common form in the US is diabetic neuropathy which is why

Charcot joints are most commonly associated with diabetes, however, diabetes is

not the only cause of neuropathy. I'm going to go with my Dr's on this one. I

have CMT and I have a Charcot joint which I am hoping resolves with a good

outcome.

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Charcot foot is a condition caused by a lack of nerve sensation in the feet.

There are many factors that lead to losing sensation in the feet, and having CMT

is one of them. Diabetes is another.

Because diabetes is much more common than CMT, most of the Charcot foot

sufferers are diabetic. That does not mean that everyone with a Charcot foot

condition is diabetic.

In my case, having CMT caused the neuropathy that led to the Charcot foot

condition. To say they are not related is incorrect.

O

[Guest guest]

Let us remember we are here to learn. Charcot Foot and Charcot Marie

Tooth Syndrome are NOT the same. A person * may have * Charcot Foot

and that is all, perhaps from diabetes, for example or another type of

neuropathy. (there are many types and forms of " neuropathy " ->look at

the short list on the left of the NA's website

http://www.neuropathy.org/site/PageServer)

A person * may have * Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome, an *inherited*

peripheral neuropathy, which * generally * begins with foot problems

and other associated distal muscle problems, and in later stages can

progress to more proximal muscles, and may affect one's breathing.

Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome can affect our entire body, our psyche,

our soul, etc. (for those who have read or will read Dr. Vinci's book, you know

of the 7 stages mentioned, plus 4 stages for hands)

Charcot Foot is about The Foot.

A person * may have * both Charcot Foot and Charcot Marie Tooth

Syndrome. Or a person * may have * Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome and

something else such as Rheumatoid Arthritis or Cancer or other chronic

illnesses. Or a person may have ONLY Charcot Foot OR ONLY Charcot Marie Tooth

Syndrome.

Charcot was a very talented and busy man in his day. Another one of his

contributions to the scientific world was pioneering work on Charcot's Disease

(which is neither Charcot Foot or Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome, but more

commonly now known as ALS) You history buffs may want to look at this if you

haven't done so already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-_Charcot Charcot also

contributed to the world of hysteria and madness - recently I

found " Charcot Theater "

http://www.newstagetheatre.org/performances/some_history_2006.shtml

It amazes me how these doctors came together in an era WAY before such

inventions as even the simple telephone, let alone email and the Internet. It

amazes me how WELL they collaborated and how magnanimous their gifts were to

modern medicine.

I'm pretty sure that we all know Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome gets its full name

from the 3, 19th century medical doctors working in Northern Europe who pretty

much simultaneously noted patients with like symptoms. These were -

Charcot, Pierre Marie (who also contributed much towards MS and disorders of

the spine), and Henry Tooth (The same year H. Tooth delivered his

doctoral thesis at the University of Cambridge titled " The peroneal type of

progessive muscular atrophy " . He emphasised the early atrophy of the peroneus

muscle and assumed the condition to be a peripheral neuropathy. Even older

reports may be recognised in literature.

http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/30.html

About 14 years ago my insurance agent had another LTD policy to sell

me. (lol) I played with her, told her I have Charcot Foot - she looked it up,

hmmm, very interesting because having Charcot Foot in fact QUALIFIED me for a

brand new LTD policy. Then I asked her to look up Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome.

She did not find it listed (duh) and asked me what it is. I explained it in

about 2 sentences, the minute I mentioned " genetically inherited neuromuscular

disorder " she closed her book and said " such conditions are not covered under

ANY LTD policy.

We have what we have, we get what we get, we learn to seek courage and peace by

taking the very best care of ourselves as possible. We come together here at

to share ourselves and most importantly our experience, to help each other

understand how to manage symptoms and better develop our quality of life.

Vaya con Dios. ~ Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Thank you Gretchen for this post. We at are so fortunate to have you as

our moderator. I truly value, and am inspired, by your wealth of knowledge and

experience. Thanks again.

Re: Charcot foot or CMT

Let us remember we are here to learn. Charcot Foot and Charcot Marie

Tooth Syndrome are NOT the same. A person * may have * Charcot Foot

and that is all, perhaps from diabetes, for example or another type of

neuropathy. (there are many types and forms of " neuropathy " ->look at

the short list on the left of the NA's website

http://www.neuropathy.org/site/PageServer)

A person * may have * Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome, an *inherited*

peripheral neuropathy, which * generally * begins with foot problems

and other associated distal muscle problems, and in later stages can

progress to more proximal muscles, and may affect one's breathing.

Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome can affect our entire body, our psyche,

our soul, etc. (for those who have read or will read Dr. Vinci's book, you

know of the 7 stages mentioned, plus 4 stages for hands)

Charcot Foot is about The Foot.

A person * may have * both Charcot Foot and Charcot Marie Tooth

Syndrome. Or a person * may have * Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome and

something else such as Rheumatoid Arthritis or Cancer or other chronic

illnesses. Or a person may have ONLY Charcot Foot OR ONLY Charcot Marie Tooth

Syndrome.

Charcot was a very talented and busy man in his day. Another one of his

contributions to the scientific world was pioneering work on Charcot's Disease

(which is neither Charcot Foot or Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome, but more

commonly now known as ALS) You history buffs may want to look at this if you

haven't done so already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-_Charcot Charcot also

contributed to the world of hysteria and madness - recently I

found " Charcot Theater "

http://www.newstagetheatre.org/performances/some_history_2006.shtml

It amazes me how these doctors came together in an era WAY before such

inventions as even the simple telephone, let alone email and the Internet. It

amazes me how WELL they collaborated and how magnanimous their gifts were to

modern medicine.

I'm pretty sure that we all know Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome gets its full

name from the 3, 19th century medical doctors working in Northern Europe who

pretty much simultaneously noted patients with like symptoms. These were Jean

- Charcot, Pierre Marie (who also contributed much towards MS and

disorders of the spine), and Henry Tooth (The same year H. Tooth

delivered his doctoral thesis at the University of Cambridge titled " The

peroneal type of progessive muscular atrophy " . He emphasised the early atrophy

of the peroneus muscle and assumed the condition to be a peripheral neuropathy.

Even older reports may be recognised in literature.

http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/30.html

About 14 years ago my insurance agent had another LTD policy to sell

me. (lol) I played with her, told her I have Charcot Foot - she looked it up,

hmmm, very interesting because having Charcot Foot in fact QUALIFIED me for a

brand new LTD policy. Then I asked her to look up Charcot Marie Tooth Syndrome.

She did not find it listed (duh) and asked me what it is. I explained it in

about 2 sentences, the minute I mentioned " genetically inherited neuromuscular

disorder " she closed her book and said " such conditions are not covered under

ANY LTD policy.

We have what we have, we get what we get, we learn to seek courage and peace

by taking the very best care of ourselves as possible. We come together here at

to share ourselves and most importantly our experience, to help each other

understand how to manage symptoms and better develop our quality of life.

Vaya con Dios. ~ Gretchen

[Guest guest]

: I will " ditto " your post....Gretchen is the greatest !!!!

Hood River, OR