Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Sally, It you twist my arm I'll talk about the kid only cause you insist. When Mali was about 12 months old she began to understand what no means. Smart kid. You could tell because she'd stop and look at you. Then she'd do it anyway a second later being too young to really control herself. A little while later sometimes she would stop at least awhile which I figured was good. I'd say thank you Mali, good girl and smile at her. Then I noticed a subtle change, around 15 months, she would stop for a second look at me to be sure she understood and then get this look in her eyes that said I know what you want but baby does what baby wants, don't get in my way Daddy. Well the first time I saw it I was not sure about it so it slid. Next time I picked her up and gave her a slap on the diaper. She was amazed and looked all confused like WTF was that. Did not hurt through the diaper but she didn't think it was a nice game. Well after a few times she realized it was not a nice game and cried for a few seconds but in a few weeks realized Daddy means stop or else spanky bottom. The wife thought it was horrific to spank any child at any age but a BABY my God how barbaric. She begged me to stop and said I'd scar her for life. On the one hand I was worried she was too young to spank but on the other hand she was real smart and understood what people said and generally real cooperative with helping dress her and stuff. I figured if she understood she was being disobedient and she seemed to, that the sooner it was proven to her to not be fun the easier it would be to stop it from becoming a personality trait like it is for some. I was really torn and could not find a good reason to continue or to stop but decided to go with my instincts and try to avoid a problem. I hit her diaper hard enough for her to know she was spanked but don't think there was any real physical pain. Well it was not long at all before she would listen to me for the most part. She did take a few spells of not listening and always got spanky spanky so she started to listen all the time. By now she had learned from Moma's no spanky give the baby whatever she cries for routine that a baby can get what she wants if she cries. More of a bitchy gime, gime cry than I'm scared or feed me now. This was a very successful and fun new behavior and she tested it on me a few times and that SOB mean Daddy even gives spanky spanky for gime gime crying tricks. So she quit crying and after awhile all it took was sayin Mali NO or at worst Spanky Spanky and she'd look sad or PO but no big deal and almost never any crying. Just sometimes for a few second kinda like awh Daddy I'm so sad you wont let me do it just can't keep from crying but not like screw you Daddy I say gime gime. Same thing with nap time. When it's nap time Daddy puts you to bed and crying don't change anything. In a few days after she started nap time crying not only did she go to nap and bed time without crying she would smile at me when I said nitey nite and we'd wave good buy and smile at each other. Wife could not understand why the baby cried when she put her down of at least 15 minutes every time. It was because sometimes the wife would pick her back up again and sing and rock which baby liked but baby would soon be too tired and then start crying again. Sometimes the whole crying at bed time with Momma goes on for 30 minutes or more and I hate to hear the kid crying but saying anything just makes Moma want to do it " my way " as she calls it. When it gets to be too much every few weeks I ask to hold the baby for a second and take her to bed and then she stops crying and waves by by and smiles. Sometimes Momma gets PO and says I wanted to hold her more and I'd say yeah but she wanted to go to bed that's why she was crying but stopped when I put her to bed. baby is only 20 months old but controls her emotions way better than Momma who probably got hung up at an earlier age. I hate to see the baby successfully in control of modifying Momma's behavior and not the other way around. I guess with Momma unable to conrtol her own behavior it's silly to expect her to control baby's. Don't get me wrong baby Loves Mama. Well the other day Mali wanted to get Momma to go in the back yard to look at stuff and wonder around. Momma said no Mali come here and the baby cried her gime gime cry and the two sort of argued like that for at least a minute. I was sitting in the chair ten feet away and said Diane why don't you just pick her up and take her where you want her to go. She says no Mike I want her to listen. I smiled and said OH why didn't you say so. I said Mali stop and she stopped in mid cry and looked at me. Then I motioned with my hand come her and she walks to me. Then I said go to your Mom and she walks to Diane. So Diane looks at me and says how come she listens to you. I smiled and said spanky spanky. Mali laughed when I said spanky spanky because she knows now it's just a joke. We don't do spanky spanky anymore because shes Daddy's GOOD GIRL. Sometimes when she sits on my lap she grabs my hands and wraps my arms around her belly and leans her head back on my chest and says goo girl goo girl. That's right Mali you're a good girl. She's a good kid and she just wants a consistent structured environment where she knows what's expected and when it's expected so she can be a good girl. I am one lucky Daddy but a sad one to see my good girl going off alone with Mamma at least half the time. Mike > > Mike, what a total doll you have there! 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Mike, How sweet! You know, I'm up for adoption. <sweet smile> But you realize, of course, that you got me confused with Michele again. I feel flattered, but am not so sure Michele does. And it sounds to me like you are doing the right things by raising Mali. Consistency is the key. And the doctor that one time said that spanking would emotionally scar a child for life has changed his tune. With an entire generation and a half raised hands off into young gangstas, he apparently figured out that approach wasn't working so well. I was never a subscriber to that method, and neither is my daughter. But we do reserve the physical " attention getting " for times when its really needed. When the child is truly not paying attention, or has no intention of compliance. I recall one instance when the younger daughter, the certified child, was just going ballistic while I was trying to drive her home, and I told her 3 times to save it until we got home. She didn't acknowledge even hearing me, so I stopped the car and slapped her face. She listened. I didn't slap her hard, no marks, but it got her attention. Sometimes you gotta get their attention, and I think a spanky or slap on the hand or cheek is a much better method than the 2x4 or baseball bat a frustrated spouse may use later on, or the incarceration/death sentence method the state may use if behavior control is not taught and learned. I had a fun day. Saw the gastro doc yesterday and I tell you, it did me in! I think I'm getting signed up for tx. I say I think because the doc said " As soon as you know for sure your insurance pays. " and I had a call in to the insurance when I went in to see the doc. When I got home I had a message on my machine from the insurance saying " Good to go. " So I called Doc back, told the nurse to go ahead with it. However, the nurse, Barb, seemed somewhat confused about it. So we shall see. I have the endo-colono-scopy scheduled for the 16th. I can hardly wait. Come time to drink the phospho-soda I'm sure I won't be able to wait at ALL. A good 12 hours of violent diarrhea, sounds like a good time for all! <not> A concerned friend heard about my anticipated party and called to warn me that the go-lytely stuff is not to be trifled with. But she couldn't remember the name, so she just said " That stuff they have you take to clean you out. " but not the other. So, of course, I had to go look it all up on the web to find out what she was talking about. I got the low down and also found a really fun site, all about fun with poo. Man, that was some STRANGE stuff! Real bathroom humor. I mean, REAL bathroom humor. Well, and some that didn't make it to the bathroom. Then I got to talk to SSA about my disability. They are still sitting on the lump sum payment, but they at least told me how much it will be, so I can start spending it in advance. I'll look into the mushroom stuff, I guess. I still get an uneasy feeling about it. I react so differently than most folks to a lot of stuff. Oh, and I found out from my PCP nurse that the insulin pump guy was by this week, and she got his card for me. He was heading to talk to my endo next. Maybe I can get my insulin pump. I'm thinking the pump will make insulin management a whole lot easier than injection during tx. I get so tired of the syringes. We'll see. All in all I've had more fun than I can stand almost the past 2 days. Hoping for a nice quiet day today, which will happen after I sleep again, and wake up. See, my circadian rhythms are all fouled up in anticipation of the tx, I guess. And I have liver pain the past 24 hours which I figure is also anticipation. I think there's a song in there somewhere but this is not the time to be singing. I just love it when my doctor promises me tx from hell. <sigh> As if I didn't know. But I have a lot of support set up for the year to come. I'll be taking Pegasys and I guess it will be mail order through Walgreens. Is Walgreens the defacto supplier for the juice? Mike, enjoy your little one. She is a treasure. A question, though, did you perhaps pray for a smart child while she was in utero? Or your wife, perhaps? I found out the hard way that that's a mistake for parents. Darn kids had me outsmarted all the way around. Fortunately my daughter listened when I told her not to pray for smart children, and the first two are most definitely smart, but are manageable. The youngest, her daddy prayed for smart, and now she just runs circles around him. Ha! He didn't listen. And Happy New Year to all I didn't catch with the wish yet. Here's hoping this one is better than the last one. Sally To Spanky or Not to Spanky Sally, It you twist my arm I'll talk about the kid only cause you insist. When Mali was about 12 months old she began to understand what no means. Smart kid. You could tell because she'd stop and look at you. Then she'd do it anyway a second later being too young to really control herself. A little while later sometimes she would stop at least awhile which I figured was good. I'd say thank you Mali, good girl and smile at her. Then I noticed a subtle change, around 15 months, she would stop for a second look at me to be sure she understood and then get this look in her eyes that said I know what you want but baby does what baby wants, don't get in my way Daddy. Well the first time I saw it I was not sure about it so it slid. Next time I picked her up and gave her a slap on the diaper. She was amazed and looked all confused like WTF was that. Did not hurt through the diaper but she didn't think it was a nice game. Well after a few times she realized it was not a nice game and cried for a few seconds but in a few weeks realized Daddy means stop or else spanky bottom. The wife thought it was horrific to spank any child at any age but a BABY my God how barbaric. She begged me to stop and said I'd scar her for life. On the one hand I was worried she was too young to spank but on the other hand she was real smart and understood what people said and generally real cooperative with helping dress her and stuff. I figured if she understood she was being disobedient and she seemed to, that the sooner it was proven to her to not be fun the easier it would be to stop it from becoming a personality trait like it is for some. I was really torn and could not find a good reason to continue or to stop but decided to go with my instincts and try to avoid a problem. I hit her diaper hard enough for her to know she was spanked but don't think there was any real physical pain. Well it was not long at all before she would listen to me for the most part. She did take a few spells of not listening and always got spanky spanky so she started to listen all the time. By now she had learned from Moma's no spanky give the baby whatever she cries for routine that a baby can get what she wants if she cries. More of a bitchy gime, gime cry than I'm scared or feed me now. This was a very successful and fun new behavior and she tested it on me a few times and that SOB mean Daddy even gives spanky spanky for gime gime crying tricks. So she quit crying and after awhile all it took was sayin Mali NO or at worst Spanky Spanky and she'd look sad or PO but no big deal and almost never any crying. Just sometimes for a few second kinda like awh Daddy I'm so sad you wont let me do it just can't keep from crying but not like screw you Daddy I say gime gime. Same thing with nap time. When it's nap time Daddy puts you to bed and crying don't change anything. In a few days after she started nap time crying not only did she go to nap and bed time without crying she would smile at me when I said nitey nite and we'd wave good buy and smile at each other. Wife could not understand why the baby cried when she put her down of at least 15 minutes every time. It was because sometimes the wife would pick her back up again and sing and rock which baby liked but baby would soon be too tired and then start crying again. Sometimes the whole crying at bed time with Momma goes on for 30 minutes or more and I hate to hear the kid crying but saying anything just makes Moma want to do it " my way " as she calls it. When it gets to be too much every few weeks I ask to hold the baby for a second and take her to bed and then she stops crying and waves by by and smiles. Sometimes Momma gets PO and says I wanted to hold her more and I'd say yeah but she wanted to go to bed that's why she was crying but stopped when I put her to bed. baby is only 20 months old but controls her emotions way better than Momma who probably got hung up at an earlier age. I hate to see the baby successfully in control of modifying Momma's behavior and not the other way around. I guess with Momma unable to conrtol her own behavior it's silly to expect her to control baby's. Don't get me wrong baby Loves Mama. Well the other day Mali wanted to get Momma to go in the back yard to look at stuff and wonder around. Momma said no Mali come here and the baby cried her gime gime cry and the two sort of argued like that for at least a minute. I was sitting in the chair ten feet away and said Diane why don't you just pick her up and take her where you want her to go. She says no Mike I want her to listen. I smiled and said OH why didn't you say so. I said Mali stop and she stopped in mid cry and looked at me. Then I motioned with my hand come her and she walks to me. Then I said go to your Mom and she walks to Diane. So Diane looks at me and says how come she listens to you. I smiled and said spanky spanky. Mali laughed when I said spanky spanky because she knows now it's just a joke. We don't do spanky spanky anymore because shes Daddy's GOOD GIRL. Sometimes when she sits on my lap she grabs my hands and wraps my arms around her belly and leans her head back on my chest and says goo girl goo girl. That's right Mali you're a good girl. She's a good kid and she just wants a consistent structured environment where she knows what's expected and when it's expected so she can be a good girl. I am one lucky Daddy but a sad one to see my good girl going off alone with Mamma at least half the time. Mike > > Mike, what a total doll you have there! You can tell > us baby stories any time! > > Michele > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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