Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all feeling?

[Guest guest]

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile.

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again. I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans. Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills. It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me. Who would have thought we

would ever be that bad off again?

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile.

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again. I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans. Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills. It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me. Who would have thought we

would ever be that bad off again?

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile.

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again. I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans. Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills. It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me. Who would have thought we

would ever be that bad off again?

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile.

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again. I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans. Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills. It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me. Who would have thought we

would ever be that bad off again?

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

hi cindy

annie here in florida heat I have had some really bad hip issues and lower

lumbar problems-- on pain meds and resting on heat and ice-- going to a paan

clinic that my Dr has referred me to next week. I really have been out for 4

weeks with this and I go up and down staris and drive miles every day.

how are you??

Annie

A poet is, most of all , to see

From: Jennette <rosetazoriginal@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days.  Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile. 

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again.  I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans.  Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills.  It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me.  Who would have thought we

would ever be that bad off again? 

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow  pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

 

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Just made a 6 hour round trip adventure.. DONE

 

From: Ann Wood Fuller <gatorma1@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:44 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

 

hi cindy

annie here in florida heat I have had some really bad hip issues and lower

lumbar problems-- on pain meds and resting on heat and ice-- going to a paan

clinic that my Dr has referred me to next week. I really have been out for 4

weeks with this and I go up and down staris and drive miles every day.

how are you??

Annie

A poet is, most of all , to see

From: Jennette <rosetazoriginal@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not complaining

too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. 

Since

I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile. 

The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

comes the heat and humidity again.  I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans.  Maybe someday we can afford

central air.

I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

bills.  It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me.  Who would have thought

we

would ever be that bad off again? 

May God Bless everyone,

Jennette

________________________________

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

Subject: HEY??? fellow  pains in the necks? how are you

all

feeling?

 

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Annie,

I'm so very sorry to hear you have suffered so much. Hopefully the pain clinic

will find ways to give you relief.

Do you know what the cause of the pain is?

All that driving and walking stairs is aggravating those nerves, no doubt. I

can imagine.

Jennette

________________________________

From: Ann Wood Fuller <gatorma1@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 10:44:45 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

hi cindy

annie here in florida heat I have had some really bad hip issues and lower

lumbar problems-- on pain meds and resting on heat and ice-- going to a paan

clinic that my Dr has referred me to next week. I really have been out for 4

weeks with this and I go up and down staris and drive miles every day.

how are you??

Annie

A poet is, most of all , to see

[Guest guest]

Hey Jennette! its getting bad isnt it! we have to install a new chimney to get

home owners. Cost a fortune. Then everything is going up! and up and up. We have

no food in the house. its al going to companies and the gas tank! I'm furious!

then dave got a new pair of eyeglasses, he cant see out of THREE pairs! he's

been back 3 times, and they are so off. We are out that money! then i went for a

few tests, and the darn doctor talked me into a pap. She said 38 dollars, but it

ended up being about 200. so the entire thing ended up costing 400. I cant pay

it! cindy

>

> Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not

complaining

> too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days.

Since

> I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

> hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile.

>

>

> The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

> comes the heat and humidity again. I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

> hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans. Maybe someday we can afford

> central air.

>

> I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

> bills. It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me. Who would have thought

we

> would ever be that bad off again?

>

>

> May God Bless everyone,

> Jennette

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

> neck pain

> Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

> Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all

> feeling?

>

>

> Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

> you all doing? cindy

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You have? remeber you had sciatica awhile back! I remeber that. me annie, never

get better. hanging in there. cindy

>

> hi cindy

> annie here in florida heat I have had some really bad hip issues and lower

lumbar problems-- on pain meds and resting on heat and ice-- going to a paan

clinic that my Dr has referred me to next week. I really have been out for 4

weeks with this and I go up and down staris and drive miles every day.

> how are you??

> Annie

>

> A poet is, most of all , to see

>

> From: Jennette <rosetazoriginal@...>

> neck pain

> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:43 PM

> Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are

you all feeling?

>

> Hi , It's so nice of you to stop in to ask how we are, I'm not

complaining

> too much, my spine has been as quiet as it can get for the last few days. 

Since

> I'm grateful for not having more pain and have learned not to push too far, my

> hope is that I'll be no worse for awhile. 

>

>

> The weather is teasing us with a couple of wonderful days but tomorrow here

> comes the heat and humidity again.  I get so grouchy when I'm overheated and

> hate the noise of the air conditioner and fans.  Maybe someday we can afford

> central air.

>

> I don't know about you, but we are scraping by barely paying the necessary

> bills.  It's off to the food pantry tomorrow for me.  Who would have thought

we

> would ever be that bad off again? 

>

>

> May God Bless everyone,

> Jennette

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

> neck pain

> Sent: Thu, July 14, 2011 3:10:55 PM

> Subject: HEY??? fellow  pains in the necks? how are you

all

> feeling?

>

>  

> Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

> you all doing? cindy

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:10 PM 7/14/2011, you wrote:

>

>

>Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no

>better? how are you all doing? cindy

Not too good these days. On top of back pain I've now got Tennis

Elbow. I thought that was a disease of the rich and famous. Not so,

and it is very painful. So no more drumming, and painful use of

computer. I'm supposed to have it in a sling for 2 months. I need

to find a cool (temperature wise) sling. My M-I-L gave me a sling

but it's made of foam and it's hot and itchy. Plus having a bad

shoulder and neck it's no fun having a sling on either.

Good news is wife gave in and gave me a middle age crazy gift. a 96

SVT COBRA Mustang, Bad news is I can't wash and wax it. Reminds me

of the line in 's Moving Out song. " If you can't drive

with a broken back, at least you polish the fender " But I can't even

do that now. So Wife is enjoying " my car " She fought it, and now

she loves it.

I maxed out my dosages of Hydrocodone so Doctor pull back on Hydro

(Vicoden) and upped my Oxycontin. So I've moved one step closer to

the max pain relief stage at age 50. Hate to think where I'll be if

I ever hit 70.

My main arm, left is the tennis elbow so now I'm trying to do

everything one armed and with my right. So now my right shoulder

which has always been my pain shoulder hurts more.

So I guess the morale is wherever your at pain wise maybe be glad for

it, because it can get worse. Dave

[Guest guest]

I finally got the doc to do shoulder surgery in January. He didn't think

there would be anything to fix to help. Well, he was WRONG! Go figure. I had

a partially torn rotator cuff which he smoothed out, labral tear (he

definitely didn't think that had happened) which he repaired, a very large

bone spur and some arthritis in the AC joint so he removed the AC joint, and

bursitis which he removed the bursa sac. But, really, there wasn't anything

bad in there. YIKES. WHEN will they start to LISTEN to their patients?

Loooong rehab and I still have a sore shoulder at times but its TONS better!

I finally have full ROM and my PT says I have a near normal shoulder! YAY!

That resulted in less neck pain but its not gone and I still get terrible

headaches. So, some of the neck pain was definitely due to the shoulder

injury. They out and out refuse to do anything other than PT, traction, and

meds for my neck. Problem is.now I can't take Advil AND Tylenol. So..any

suggestions on what to take if I get a terrible headache (which happens a

few times per week)?

Joi

_____

From: neck pain

[mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of and Dave

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:11 PM

neck pain

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how

are you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

I am suffering withaarthritis of my hip and nerve root impingement and going to

pain clinic in August. I am miserable but still trucking.

 How are YOU????

Annie

A poet is, most of all , to see

From: Dave Cruikshank <d.cruikshank@...>

neck pain

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:22 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

At 03:10 PM 7/14/2011, you wrote:

>

>

>Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no

>better? how are you all doing? cindy

Not too good these days.  On top of back pain I've now got Tennis

Elbow.  I thought that was a disease of the rich and famous.  Not so,

and it is very painful.  So no more drumming, and painful use of

computer.  I'm supposed to have it in a sling for 2 months.  I need

to find a cool (temperature wise) sling.  My M-I-L gave me a sling

but it's made of foam and it's hot and itchy.  Plus having a bad

shoulder and neck it's no fun having a sling on either.

Good news is wife gave in and gave me a middle age crazy gift.  a 96

SVT COBRA Mustang,  Bad news is I can't wash and wax it.  Reminds me

of the line in 's Moving Out song.  " If you can't drive

with a broken back, at least you polish the fender "   But I can't even

do that now.  So Wife is enjoying " my car "   She fought it, and now

she loves it.

I maxed out my dosages of Hydrocodone so Doctor pull back on Hydro

(Vicoden) and upped my Oxycontin.  So I've moved one step closer to

the max pain relief stage at age 50.  Hate to think where I'll be if

I ever hit 70.

My main arm, left is the tennis elbow so now I'm trying to do

everything one armed and with my right.  So now my right shoulder

which has always been my pain shoulder hurts more.

So I guess the morale is wherever your at pain wise maybe be glad for

it, because it can get worse.  Dave

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Joi,

Where is your neck pain?

Why can't you take tylenol and Advil anymore?

Rochelle

>

> I finally got the doc to do shoulder surgery in January. He didn't think

> there would be anything to fix to help. Well, he was WRONG! Go figure. I had

> a partially torn rotator cuff which he smoothed out, labral tear (he

> definitely didn't think that had happened) which he repaired, a very large

> bone spur and some arthritis in the AC joint so he removed the AC joint, and

> bursitis which he removed the bursa sac. But, really, there wasn't anything

> bad in there. YIKES. WHEN will they start to LISTEN to their patients?

> Loooong rehab and I still have a sore shoulder at times but its TONS better!

> I finally have full ROM and my PT says I have a near normal shoulder! YAY!

> That resulted in less neck pain but its not gone and I still get terrible

> headaches. So, some of the neck pain was definitely due to the shoulder

> injury. They out and out refuse to do anything other than PT, traction, and

> meds for my neck. Problem is.now I can't take Advil AND Tylenol. So..any

> suggestions on what to take if I get a terrible headache (which happens a

> few times per week)?

>

>

>

> Joi

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: neck pain

> [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of and Dave

> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:11 PM

> neck pain

> Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

> all feeling?

>

>

>

>

>

> Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how

> are you all doing? cindy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joi,

Joi,

Sorry, I meant to ask where your head pain is. Is it back of head like in

occipital pain, or at the sides or front of your head? There's different kinds

of headaches--differing locations, different severities, intervals and

durations, different accompanying symptoms. The pain doctor I went to

specialized in head pain and had varieties of treatments depending on which

kind.

Rochelle

>

> I finally got the doc to do shoulder surgery in January. He didn't think

> there would be anything to fix to help. Well, he was WRONG! Go figure. I had

> a partially torn rotator cuff which he smoothed out, labral tear (he

> definitely didn't think that had happened) which he repaired, a very large

> bone spur and some arthritis in the AC joint so he removed the AC joint, and

> bursitis which he removed the bursa sac. But, really, there wasn't anything

> bad in there. YIKES. WHEN will they start to LISTEN to their patients?

> Loooong rehab and I still have a sore shoulder at times but its TONS better!

> I finally have full ROM and my PT says I have a near normal shoulder! YAY!

> That resulted in less neck pain but its not gone and I still get terrible

> headaches. So, some of the neck pain was definitely due to the shoulder

> injury. They out and out refuse to do anything other than PT, traction, and

> meds for my neck. Problem is.now I can't take Advil AND Tylenol. So..any

> suggestions on what to take if I get a terrible headache (which happens a

> few times per week)?

>

>

>

> Joi

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: neck pain

> [mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of and Dave

> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:11 PM

> neck pain

> Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

> all feeling?

>

>

>

>

>

> Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how

> are you all doing? cindy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I had my surgery on my neck last October.  It was successful, but had other

problems from the surgery that have finally been resolved.  Here, 9 months

post-op and I am starting to have some discomfort in my neck again.  I also

have carpal tunnel in both arms, so according to a couple of docs is my problem

now.  I am trying different things like a different type of pillow, which has

helped some.  I may go back to the neck doc, or I may try the acupuncturist

first, haven't decided.

Debbie

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

neck pain

Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:10 PM

 

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how

are you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi Debbie,

I know I harp on posture too much, but if you go back to physical therapy, try

to have your doctor write the prescription so they also evaluate your posture,

especially strength of stabilizing shoulder girdle muscles and, orientation of

shoulder blades--should not be farther apart than 4 inches and not riding up too

high, also upper back strength and degree of thoracic curve to see if too

kyphotic. There are various musculo-skeletal disorders that cause neck pain but

are not directly related to nerve root impingement in the neck. Part of the

treatment successes of a well known professor of physical therapy in Australia

(Gwendoen Jull)are due to emphasis on posture and then neck flexor strength (the

muscles you use to lift the head, when you are flat on your back.)

I have moderate to severe degenerative disc disease in my neck, and my neck pain

stemmed mainly from poor posture. However, I do realize not everyone is that

way, but it doesn't hurt to get other causes checked out.

Did your carpel tunnel syndrome just start?

There is another similar syndrome called thoracic outlet syndrome:

From PubMed: Thoracic outlet syndrome

Last reviewed: November 1, 2010.

Thoracic outlet syndrome is a rare condition (not so rare) that involves pain in

the neck and shoulder, numbness and tingling of the fingers, and a weak grip.

The thoracic outlet is the area between the rib cage and collar bone. (Waking up

at night with numb hands is common with this disorder especially in middle-aged

women. That's what was happening to me.)

For more see the pubmed health article.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002406/

Physical Therapy for posture and shoulder strength is the first treatment.

(Improved posture fixed mine)

Rochelle

>

> From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

> Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

> neck pain

> Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:10 PM

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[Guest guest]

Rochelle,

The first time I went to PT they helped me and it was a year before the pain

came back. Then I went back to the same PT center and I will l never go back to

PT for my neck again.  That PT session is why I had to have surgery so soon,

they actually made things a lot worse and I was forced to have surgery within

weeks because of it.  And this was a hospital based PT center too.  

We have had this conversation before, and I agree posture does play a part.  In

fact I told you about the little trick of turning your thumbs out and that will

roll your shoulders back.  

Right now I am in the middle of re-adjusting my sleeping habits.  I sleep with

a CPAP mask.  My old mask was very hard and positioned your head and neck in

place and I was waking up with an achy neck.  I am now transitioning to another

mask that allows me to move.  I am also working with my pillows because I have

noticed when I sleep on too hard or too many pillows it also plays havoc with my

neck.  My neck has become less achy with these adjustments, so I will see what

time brings, it may mean I have to adjust something else.

I have actually had carpal tunnel for over 20 years.  I have been to several

docs here all agreeing that I need the surgery in both wrists and additional

surgery at one of my elbows for a nerve there.  Cannot think of the name of it

off hand.  I just haven't decided who to do the surgery or when.  

Thanks for asking.

Debbie

From: Rochelle <rccoc1977@...>

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

neck pain

Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 11:24 AM

 

Hi Debbie,

I know I harp on posture too much, but if you go back to physical therapy, try

to have your doctor write the prescription so they also evaluate your posture,

especially strength of stabilizing shoulder girdle muscles and, orientation of

shoulder blades--should not be farther apart than 4 inches and not riding up too

high, also upper back strength and degree of thoracic curve to see if too

kyphotic. There are various musculo-skeletal disorders that cause neck pain but

are not directly related to nerve root impingement in the neck. Part of the

treatment successes of a well known professor of physical therapy in Australia

(Gwendoen Jull)are due to emphasis on posture and then neck flexor strength (the

muscles you use to lift the head, when you are flat on your back.)

I have moderate to severe degenerative disc disease in my neck, and my neck pain

stemmed mainly from poor posture. However, I do realize not everyone is that

way, but it doesn't hurt to get other causes checked out.

Did your carpel tunnel syndrome just start?

There is another similar syndrome called thoracic outlet syndrome:

From PubMed: Thoracic outlet syndrome

Last reviewed: November 1, 2010.

Thoracic outlet syndrome is a rare condition (not so rare) that involves pain in

the neck and shoulder, numbness and tingling of the fingers, and a weak grip.

The thoracic outlet is the area between the rib cage and collar bone. (Waking up

at night with numb hands is common with this disorder especially in middle-aged

women. That's what was happening to me.)

For more see the pubmed health article.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002406/

Physical Therapy for posture and shoulder strength is the first treatment.

(Improved posture fixed mine)

Rochelle

>

> From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

> Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

> neck pain

> Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:10 PM

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Debbie,

It's shocking that Physical Therapy could mess you up so bad you needed surgery

within weeks. Do you mind telling me what they exactly did? And the difference

between the good PT before and the bad PT a year later. Was it the same

physical therapist?

Rochelle

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[Guest guest]

Rochelle,

No it wasn't the same therapist, but it was the same facility.  She was suppose

to be one of the best, but soon after I went there the pain continued to

increase to the point I could no longer stand it.  My chiropractor thinks that

she didn't cool my muscles down after heating them.  I don't know what she did,

but I won't go back for that again.  

Debbie

From: Rochelle <rccoc1977@...>

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

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neck pain

Date: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 5:17 PM

 

Debbie,

It's shocking that Physical Therapy could mess you up so bad you needed surgery

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between the good PT before and the bad PT a year later. Was it the same

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Rochelle

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[Guest guest]

 Hi - I am 2 1/2 years post cervical fusion C4-7 and most of the problems from

before the  surgery were corrected by the surgery and are still gone...I am

starting to get some tingling in my fingers, some weakness in my hand again, and

neck pain again so I fear the disks above and below are starting to act up now -

but it does seem to come and go at this point so I am going to be positive

thinking on this one and hopeful.

I also had Lumbar decompression about 9 months ago and that has been great!

Unfortunately I need a knee replacement and hip replacement so that is precedent

right now...UGH.

Thanks for asking...

bionic mark

From: and Dave <woody1014@...>

Subject: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you all

feeling?

neck pain

Date: Thursday, July 14, 2011, 2:10 PM

 

Hey how is everone feeling and making out these days? i am no better? how are

you all doing? cindy

[Guest guest]

Hi Mark,

I'm interested in the lumbar decompression for my my sister, who has a tear in a

lumbar disc and in a vertebra above that, an area of nerve root impingement that

has caused a persistent spasm of a front thigh muscle. Could you describe how

the decompression is done and how long it takes for relief. I've seen ads for

lumbar decompression but never believed it worked, but if it worked for you

maybe it would help my sister.

Thanks,

Rochelle

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Hi Rochelle - My surgery was last September.  During the laminectomy

(decompression) essentially the surgeon removes the spinous process or the ridge

down the middle of  your spine to relieve spinal stenosis.  I had stenosis

that was as small as 4 mm when 12-13mm was normal.  This relieves the pinching

of the spinal column.  It leaves the sides of the spine in space so there is no

loss of structure.  They leave the spine open, but there is a thick layer of

tissue over the spine.  I also had a foraminectomy which means they removed the

back part of the spines on the side of the spine where the nerve roots exit the

spine because I had pinched nerves there.  I had it on L2-S1.  I was out of

work for 6-8 weeks but really could have gone back sooner probably.  I had

immediate relief from sciatica.  It does not relieve lower back pain, I should

have also had a fusion of the same vertebrate but I have such severe DDD that

there were no healthy disks

to start fusing.  The surgeon said that if he started it anywhere it would not

be long before the disks above would then start to be a problem and need

additional fusion.  So I have some remaining lower back pain but it so much

better than when I had sciatica!  From my experience it was a miracle!!

Please ask anything about it you want.

Mark

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From: Rochelle <rccoc1977@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:16 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

 

Hi Mark,

I'm interested in the lumbar decompression for my my sister, who has a tear in a

lumbar disc and in a vertebra above that, an area of nerve root impingement that

has caused a persistent spasm of a front thigh muscle. Could you describe how

the decompression is done and how long it takes for relief. I've seen ads for

lumbar decompression but never believed it worked, but if it worked for you

maybe it would help my sister.

Thanks,

Rochelle

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HI Rochelle.

I am in a brutal pain pattern having had a Cardiac Cath in early May and the

artery was compromised-- and it is painful now, inner groin pain-- Dr at the

pain clinic checked it out and he said tat is the issue. Then too i am getting

in injection in my SI joint-- sacrual illeac joint August 15-- right hip is

bad with arthritic. I am about 80 pounds overweight too. After  4 yrs of taking

steriods.

I am taking pain pills and prednisone for my PMR. Fibro is on board too but cant

take Lyrica, or neurotyn, etc.

Annie

A poet is, most of all , to see

From: Rochelle <rccoc1977@...>

neck pain

Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2011 8:16 PM

Subject: Re: HEY??? fellow pains in the necks? how are you

all feeling?

Hi Mark,

I'm interested in the lumbar decompression for my my sister, who has a tear in a

lumbar disc and in a vertebra above that, an area of nerve root impingement that

has caused a persistent spasm of a front thigh muscle. Could you describe how

the decompression is done and how long it takes for relief. I've seen ads for

lumbar decompression but never believed it worked, but if it worked for you

maybe it would help my sister.

Thanks,

Rochelle

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> Subject: HEY??? fellow  pains in the necks? how are you

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Dear Mark,

I thought your decompression was non-surgical. (But with such extensive

stenosis, one area of spinal canal at 4 mm !!, non-surgical treatment wouldn't

have helped. You must have been in a lot of pain!!) There are machines out there

advertised as decompressing the spine that I guess " stretch " or put the spine

under traction, and the discs somehow are supposed to repair themselves? I was

hoping maybe these machines actually worked, though I doubt they do anything,

but I was hoping. My sister is looking for a nonsurgical alternative. She

already had one epidural that didn't help and has 2 more to go before her spine

surgeon talks to her about surgery. But at this point, her thigh muscle never

relaxes and it is a constant source of pain for the past 6 months. I'm worried

the motor nerve will be so damaged by the time she has surgery that it won't all

come back, especially if she goes looking for alternatives that don't work. She

limps as it is.

I'm so glad you got through such extensive spine surgery and had a successful

outcome as well as relief of your sciatic nerve pain. Was the laminectomy done

from L2-S1 like the formaminectomy? If you'd had fusions done, would it have

been almost your entire lower back, L2-Si? That's at least 4 fusions and your

lower back would be totally stiff.(Actually you probably could have been fused

because they take the bad discs out and replace with your own bone or cadaver

bone. But no one has enough extra bone for 4 large fusions like that. Would

have been horrendous.)

Do you have flexibility with the laminectomy?

How long did the surgery take? Laminectomy and foraminectomy?

My sister doesn't have as severe of problem, in that there's only 2 really bad

levels (L3-4, L4-5, as far as I know) although she has a fair degree of DDD in

all her lumbar discs and also her neck like I do.

Take care,

Rochelle

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[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

Has it already been 4 years with the steroids? I remember when you first started

with that " overdose " one doctor prescribed. My sister was also prescribed a

large dose of steroids for her back pain, but I told her what happened to you.

She's had some mental health issues (PTSD also plus other stuff) and when I told

her about your reaction, she decided to tell her psychiatrist, who said no way

should she take that much steroid. She went to another doctor and started with

the epidurals. Too bad the first epidural didn't help at all.

Ann, did you have a lot of bruising from the Cath? Pain from early May! They

must have done a lousy job. The inner thigh/groin is such a sensitive area to

begin with. Does the area spasm? Is there a lump where they put the catheter?

My sister's pain doctor gave her a prescription for Lyrica. He says her

widespread pain is probably fibromyalgia. My sister has to check that med out

with her psychiatrist too. She's on psychoactive ones that may preclude it.

Does the SI joint cause problems with the hip? or is the arthritic hip causing

problems in the SI joint? Do they give steroid injections in the hip?

The body is wonderfully clever in all it's interconnections, but once one thing

goes wrong, watch out.

Take care,

Rochelle

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