Chiropractors

[Guest guest]

This may be a little off topic, but refers back to some earlier

discussions....

For those chiropractors out there, or for those of you who take your

children to chiros, how often do you go? Do you take your child on a

regular basis as a preventative measure, or do you go when your child

is symptomatic of something? I have personally gone to chiros for

years for chronic recurrent back pain, and have often thought if I

went on a reg basis I'd not have so many recurrances. My daughter

(20mos, partially vaccinated) saw a chiro at 2 months old to help

with colic (it DID help! along with infant massage). Just

curious.....feel free to email me privately.

Amy

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Amy,

In response to your question, I have been taking my two since my baby was

eight months old and had started with an ear infection (which was actually an

allergy) and my son started with her ( he was 41/2). Now at 21/2 and 6 they

both go once a month and also if they appear to be coming down with

something. They are also a great source of information for alternative and

give lot of support for doing things " naturally " . I love my chiropractors

and refer to them all the time. It doesn't hurt to take them and I

definitely notice a big difference in my kids when I take them. Most of all

a very restful nights sleep!! For everyone!! Take care. Nadine

[Guest guest]

We love our chiropractor! We is like our family doctor... If we get sick

with a cold, along with taking herbs " and stuff " we go see him and he helps

get our sinus' unclogged so that we can breath. When my dd had colic, we

would take her to him and he would adjust her and it made a HUGE difference

in the amount of crying she did. When the spine is in alignment, the whole

body can work better...

kn

Chiropractors

> Do most of them believe in not vaxing, What are they good for treating

> besides sore backs and such. I have been to see one he was very nice his

wife

> had homebirths and they homeschool I wonder if he'd be a good one to talk

to.

> Whatcha think?

> Amy

> Ohio

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We have found our chiropractor to have a wonderful influence on our family's health. His whole attitude about the intelligence of the human body has helped us change the way we think and react to illness. He helped us avoid getting tubes in my son's ears by regular adjustments (to help the his ears drain better), advising us to cut out milk, and saying no to antibiotics and acetiminophen. I love having him as a resource person when a physician has recommended something or when I've done some research about something alternative. I think they are generally anti-vax.

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I used to have chronic migraines about twice a month. They would put me in

bed for a day or two after vomiting, diarrhea, the works... I went to

doctors for 5 years and had every test done imaginable and took about every

drug there was to take. After about 6 months of chiropractic care, my

migraines were down to 1 every few months. After a year, they were

completely gone. After the birth of my son (five years later), I started

getting them again. I go to the chiropractor about once every week or two

and it makes the onset of one disappear almost immediately. I have nothing

but good things to say about chiropractic! :-) That said though, there are

still some quacks out there, been to a few of them too. Not all

chiropractors are created equal! Elijah (my son) had lots of bad gas his

first 4 months of life and adjustments seemed to really help him as well.

Elijah (9/22/00)

http://people.atl.mediaone.net/buddzoo

Chiropractors

Do most of them believe in not vaxing, What are they good for treating

besides sore backs and such. I have been to see one he was very nice his

wife

had homebirths and they homeschool I wonder if he'd be a good one to talk

to.

Whatcha think?

Amy

Ohio

[Guest guest]

<<That said though, there

are

still some quacks out there, been to a few of them too. Not all

chiropractors are created equal!>>

HAve any tips for finding a good one / weeding out quacks?

s.

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" Tell a lie loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe it. "

--Adolph Hitler.

Truth has no special time of its own.

Its hour is now -- always.

- Albert Schweitzer (01/14/1875-1965)

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<<HAve any tips for finding a good one / weeding out quacks?>>

Personal references! If you know anyone who goes to a chiropractor or goes

to LLL (somewhere there is bound to use one), you should be able to get a

lead on a good one.

The one I use I especially like because she wants you to go for maintenance

care, not just when you have a problem. So, she has prices that reflect her

philosophy. Its $15 per visit or $25 for a family (up to 4) for an

adjustment. There are other chiropractors that have an " annual " fee that you

can pay for unlimited visits. I never had enough money up front to do that,

but I think that both of these approaches encourage frequent visits. Some

also require that you go to a short " seminar " of chiropractic care before

receiving any adjustments. I highly recommend a chiropractor who does this,

it says that they want you to understand chiropractic before you go to them.

A good chiropractor will not claim that they can " cure " anything. They will

claim only to help your body be in the best shape it can be so that it can

heal itself. Chiropractors who do a lot of needless " therapies " and have

primarily accident victims, etc. are not the ones to go to. Consequently,

they are usually the ones charging a lot of money.

Most chiropractors will not work on you until they take some x-rays of your

spine. If you can get no personal references, find one that you can talk

to and try to get them to do an adjustment before you pay for the x-rays. If

the adjustment is painful, extremely uncomfortable, or just plain

unpleasant, then this is not the chiropractor for you! Also ask them about

their philosophies on health. If their viewpoints coincide with yours,

you'll probably enjoy the visits a lot more!

Hope that helps!

Elijah (9/22/00)

http://people.atl.mediaone.net/buddzoo

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In my experience, which is limited, I have been to 5 chiros...1 gave me the heebie-jeebies(after he patted my backside while i was preggers and I was just there as a friend to his patient!) and the other 4 are Palmer gruduates...non vaxxers and methods are different but I felt confident with all 4. So if I ever move, will definitely look for a Palmer grad! I also asked receptionist if they were against vaxxes...that is something they should know! They have helped with menstrual cramping,headaches, ear "infections"(commonly called by allopathic community),teeth grinding leading to jaw out of alignment,sinus congestion,colds,heartburn...we go as maintenance visits and after birth and after falls and when any of us says"I need Doug"(our chiro)...at least make sure they graduated from somewhere! Ask for referrals. Remenber, you are hiring them.

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohio Re: Chiropractors

HAve any tips for finding a good one / weeding out quacks?s.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Tell a lie loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe it."--Adolph Hitler.Truth has no special time of its own.Its hour is now -- always.- Albert Schweitzer (01/14/1875-1965)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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<< So if I ever move, will definitely look for a Palmer grad! >>

The one I go to now is from Life College in GA. That is the largest chiropractic school in the country. They put out good graduates too. A licensed chiropractor should have a DC after their name - doctor of chiropractic. They should also have their license on the wall and hopefully a copy of their diploma as well, just like a regular doctors office.

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A good chiropractor is a wonderful thing to find. The trick is to find one

who understands weight trainers. After all, you don't want to have yet one

more doctor telling you not to squat, bench or whatever. Now, I have had them

tell me to stop doing a certain movement for a length of time, or suggest ways

of doing something differently, but never to stop lifting.

Like most people, my hips tend to get themselves out of alignment. If the

situation gets bad, I start to think the heel of my left shoe is higher than

the right. My neck starts to hurt, my back starts to hurt, my range of motion

is affected and my loads go down in the gym. A good chiropractor can solve

these problems within a few visits, although the best thing is that once they

are solved, to go in once a month for " maintenance. " It doesn't take very

long, doesn't cost very much and keeps the body in at least some semblance of

alignment.

My current chiropractor also trains at Gold's. He says he drops his business

cards into the gym bags of people he sees with incorrect form because he knows

that sooner or later, they will be needing his services!

Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon

Venice, CA

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At the outset here, I will state my bias. I am a chiropractor. Whilst I

generally only get time to skim this list from time to time, I feel it's

time once again to invest some time in a comment. I have watched as listers

have mentioned the help they get from chiropractic, and then have their

opinions ridiculed by learned others with more letters after their name with

which they abase the listers experience and the chiropractic profession. The

reason I don't post on here a lot in defense of my chosen profession is that

for a large part of the time, I know that the claims are correct. It is

futile to defend my own practices when I know that there are many within the

profession that act exactly as many of you have mentioned. Yes there are

practitioners out there that are conning people. I'll tell you right now,

there is a big push in the seminar circuit towards " Practice Building "

basically sharpening your skills in getting people to come in as many times

as possible. As a member of the profession, this makes me sick. I get tarred

with the same brush as these people that belong in telemarketing, not a

health care profession. Guess what, it's the same push that is occuring in

physiotherapy. Guess what, general medicine is no different as business

becomes the focus of the practice, not healthcare. So there needs to be some

level of skepticism with which treatment regimes are prescribed and

accepted. The other thing I will also tell you right now is that not every

practitioners agrees with this push or goes to the seminars. I would be

lying if I said that I don't have patients on a maintenance program. This

program is always discussed with the patient, and is set to be the furthest

amount of time between visits that their body will tolerate, without them

being in substantial pain or discomfort. For some patients, a maintenance

visit means once a year. It depends on what they do, and how well they look

after themselves and follow my instructions on exercise and self management.

Every patient that I see is given some sort of exercise program to prevent

the problem that brought them in and help them to self manage their health.

As I tell my patients, my practice will be built by seeing their friends, not

them.

Chiropractors are often branded as unscientific. Once again, it is a hard

position to defend when there are practitioners teaching of squashed spinal

nerves and bones 'out of place'. This was a reasonable theory for 100 years

ago when chiropractic was just starting. AS we learn more though, these

theories need to be updated and replaced. Guess what, we are still working

on theories, but then so is everyone else. We have theories as to why things

work, and until they are replaced by a better theory, we use it. Guess what,

nobody really knows what causes back pain. We have theories, but the diverse

nature of the human body and the way we use it makes it difficult to make

any conclusive deductions.

Mel, as for your theory of a random chaotic

body.. please mate, where is your scientific mind that I respect now??? Just

because we don't understand something, doesn't make it a random event, it

makes us inadequate, unlearned scientists. There is a reason and purpose for

everything that the body does. We are just not clever enough to know what it

all is.

There is a reason why students get neck problems as exams near,

there is a reason why volleyball players get shoulder problems, there is a

reason why young baseball pitchers now have a limit on how many balls they

can pitch. Musculoskeletal dysfunction is not a random event. Your

experiences with helping your own problems are no more substantiated than

Rosemarys. Except of course, that she is able to give you a closer

approximation to what it is that helps her problems, and knows more

accurately how to get them resolved.

Whilst I don't agree with the hips out

of alignment routine, chiropractic obviously works for Rosemary with this

problem, and whilst she maintains her current training and lifestyle, once a

month might be what is needed to keep her body functioning well. I would

suggest a good deep tissue massage between treatments which might lengthen

the time between treatments, but otherwise, why go through pain and

discomfort for longer just so that you can perhaps " heal thyself " Have you

ever supposed that rather than " healing " the problem that you had, your

body, in its wisdom might be creating a new way to deal with your

activities. Some sort of compensatory mechanism has been instituted that

your body now works with? Whilst it may work for now, compensatory

mechanisms are rarely as efficient as the original design.

Are our bodies supposed to be perfectly even and balanced? Perhaps they are,

but I've never seen one that is, and I don't pretend to my patients that I

can make their body achieve that. Rather they should have a body that

functions well with what it has. Some things can be changed, and it is up to

the honesty and experience of the practitioner to let you know what they

are, on what time scale it will occur, and who will do they changing. I give

patients postural advice day after day.

Just because I see student after student come in with a forward head carriage,

does that make it an ideal

posture for them? No chance. It means that rather than by some random act of

nature acting freakishly all in one geographical area, they have a problem

with having their heads down studying all the time, bringing their head into

that position without any countering movement. Will I fix that? No, they

will, over time with strengthening and stretching exercises.

I will offer a few words of advice with respect to chiros:

1. If you do a lot of exercise, choose one that has experience with sports

people.

2. If they offer you a pay upfront scheme for the next year, walk out

immediately.

3. An X-ray is not necessary for every patient, be very aware of this if they

have their own machine.

4. Make sure that they not only correct your problem, but give you some

exercises or advice to stop the same problem recurring.

Your bones do not go out of place, your nerves do not get squashed between

vertebrae, and you will not have an ideal spinal alignment.

Chiropractic is not the answer to everyones problems all the time.

Yes the placebo effect works, any practitioner who denies its effect in

their practice is kidding themselves.

Sorry about the long post, and perhaps if I kept them shorter, I would have

more time to get involved in these discussions.

Cheers

Pete Garbutt

Sydney, Australia

[Guest guest]

I hope my comments were not interpreted as being against

chiropractic in general. I know that most chiropractors have skills

and use valid techniques for helping people deal with pain and

injury. But some of the ideas we get from alternative medicine

practitioners are far fetched, including those from chiropractors.

I refer to the few, I suppose, that cause most to have a bad name.

I myself have had one of those " free " spine exams that are

advertised on radio and local newspapers. The X ray showed

arthritic spurs (surprise! ), and a somewhat crooked upper spine - and

the doctor insisted that I required weekly adjustments, and a special

arthritis program that only he knew about. The bottom line was

$6000. But I wasn't to worry, because he would make sure that those

insurance guys paid their share. Even though I knew he was an

unethical slimeball, I was still taken bye his charismatic manner.

If I had had medical insurance at that time, I might have fallen for the

pitch.

I called my " regular " physician (a D.O.), who looked at me

and said I might want an adjustment (one), and see if it helps with my

flexibility while i work on my posture. That was his take on it - I

needed to work on my posture. My pain was not caused by anything

acute and could be treated with minimal medical intervention. He

did the adjustment, and gave me some exercises for my poor posture.

He followed up by calling me a couple of times in the next month,

to make sure I was on track. His cost was $50.

So, I am one of the people who had a BAD first experience with

chiropractors. I do know that millions have had good experiences,

and many people will prefer them to MDs even. And I don't

consider most chiropractors flakes, quacks or just outright weird.

Only a few.

Madeline Chen

Colorado Springs, CO

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As the person who mentioned chiropractors in my post on alternative health

(only as an example) , I would like to commend both and Pete for

their aggressive and eloquent condemnations of their colleagues who

continue to espouse utter nonsense as the basis of chiropractice.

I fully realize that it takes a great deal of courage to agitate for change

within such dogmatic structures and I would encourage them to continue and

pledge my support for a scientific approach to their practice.

The whole series of posts on the issue were quite telling and I am glad

that it ended up with a couple of excellent discussions by and Pete.

Other posts gave good examples of the problems with much of chiropractic:

The mention of a chiro putting his cards in people's bags, despicable and

unethical - I hope it was a joke. Sort of like the chiropractors who troll

the birth announcements in my city and then contact new mothers to regale

them with the horros of child birth effects on children.

The post by (Alison?) that talked about physicians being slaves to this or

that agenda. MDs have nothing to do with chiropractors. Why can we not

address the two groups in exclusive discussions? It is not helpful to talk

about nefarious MD conspiracy theories when we are talking about

chiropractic, just as it would be unhelpful to talk about chiropractic

while discussing MD conspiracy theories.

Thanks again to and Pete for their significant contributions to the

discussion, I appreciated it.

Greg Hart

Calgary, Alberta

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Just got back from a long weekend visiting family and am playing catch-up with

the list. I very much enjoyed Pete Garbutt's comments, coming from " the

opposite site " as they were. I agree that not all Chiropractors are created

equal, but then neither are all docs, PT's, massage therapists or any one who

practices any other profession or skill. Therefore, the patient must choose

carefully.

My first visit to a Chiropractor was prompted by a combination of soreness in

the rhomboid area and recommendations from articles in PLUSA. The first doc

had been a competitive bodybuilder (a former Mr. Iowa). He gave me some good

recommendations about rowing exercises, which were probably the culprit.

Unfortunately, he left the Santa and returned to Iowa, where his family

lived.

Several years went by when my masseuse told me my thoracic vertebrae looked

out of line and recommended a visit to a chiro. Fortunately I had a

recommendation of someone (a competitive powerlifter himself) who was the

first to tell me my right hip was a bit higher which was throwing my back out

of alignment. I have no doubts this was the case since at that time I sat in

front of a computer with a phone at my ear 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, and

worked out regularly.

I had also started to notice that in the early hours of the morning, I would

get up to relieve myself, come back to bed and get some very slight bladder

spasms. It didn't happen every night, but the situation was happening more

often. I decided I had best get into my M.D. to see what was wrong.

Fortunately, I went to see Dr. Pete (not the same person as our Pete) first

because whatever he did solved the problem. More than likely I had a bulging

disc or some kind of nerve impingement. An M.D. would have run me through a

lot of unnecessary tests and found nothing.

As Pete recommends, I also treated myself to a massage once a month. After I

moved, I skipped both the massage and chiro for several months. My current

visits to the chiropractor were once again prompted by suggestions from the

masseuse. And once again I was starting to experience the same problems as

before. Jay solved the problem with one visit. Although I have seen him on

several occasions to get up to optimal, I am now on a once a month

maintenance. As in the past, this will most likely keep these problems from

reoccurring.

Like Pete, I'm not suggesting that chiropractic will solve all problems or

work for everyone, but it sure does work for me IF I have the right doctor. I

have no doubts that my problems are caused by a combination of my age,

carrying uneven loads (groceries and laundry), sitting at the computer and

weight training. I try to use good form in the gym, but I'm sure I'm not

always spot on.

Chiropractors are not all that expensive and many insurance plans will pay for

a certain number of visits. Health Net, which I have, pays for up to 20

visits a year, which is much more than I have ever needed. For people with

back or neck pain which they feel may be caused by their efforts in the gym, a

chiropractor is a good place to start. Like most people, I have neither the

knowledge or expertise to be able to " adjust " myself!

Rosemary Wedderburn-Vernon

Venice, CA

[Guest guest]

>Hello everyone Once again

>

> I know I keep writing the Lsit with questions.But I was

>just wondering ifIt would be ok to go see a chiropractor and Maybe get an

>adjustment..maybe it will loosen me up a bit.Or maybe that would be a wrong

>move for..has anyone ever went to a chiropractor.I am achondroplasia Im just

>looking for any relief until I go see the Doc..thanks everyone .I really

>appreciate everyones info...kristie

>

Well I bet you get a bunch of different views on this one.

I personally have found a chiropractor (there are two different

schools of treatment with in the chiropractor community...do folks

know that? One school is the one that about 90% of the people out

there experience, the other school of treatment is gentler

manipulation.) who spends a minimum of an hour with me, does massage

therapy, physical therapy techniques and adjustments. He IS NOT one

of those chiropractors who " snap crackle pop " for 10 minutes and then

you are off. He treats the WHOLE body as it relates to the spine and

not just a specific problem, that keeps you coming back for weeks! I

had another guy, who used the same treatment philosophy, but did what

amounted to one area at a time. If my elbow as killing me...that was

another visit. This new guy treats me as a whole, as a person and

not as a $35 visit for 10 minutes! There are differences. Like our

other doctors, all chiropractors are not created equal.

I have had doctors who are amazed how much function I have

gained/regained with working with my chiropractor and there are some

who think I am nuts.

One thing I do insist on is that in my cervical (neck) they are not

to " pop " me. They use an activator unit to tap me, but do not use a

quick hand motion to adjust my neck.

I have posed a challenge to my chiropractor as I have tons of issues

(neck, shoulders, ribs, spine, curvature, stenosis, knee, foot,

hands, elbows!) I see him a minimum of once a month, but when things

are just not going well I have been known to see him 2-3 times in one

week.

Most will offer payment discounts if you ask and many more insurances

are allowing expenses particularly when it affects the lumbar (lower)

back.

Initially I saw him quite often until I was able to work an exercise

routine which helped me maintain myself for longer periods. I use

theraballs to help keep me somewhat limber. I use a child theraball

(yellow) to do a hula type exercise on and a larger blue theraball to

lay across on my stomach to open up my lower spine.

The doctor I now have is really a " healer " and not in it for the big

bucks... he charges $35 an HOUR where most charge that same amount

for 10 minutes of popping. He has given me payment breaks many, many

times.

I'll tell you a story. I had a major nerve pinch a few years back

which was Thorasic Nerve issue. I was flat on my back (the pain when

through my neck, down my arm to my fingers) for four weeks after

seeing a neurologist who drugged me up. I was frantic, depressed

and was willing to try anything at this point. My in laws go to my

first chiropractor and asked me to give it a chance. Now, never

having gone to one, I was very scared, but I was about to try

anything, but expected it wouldn't work. I was not a believer in

this hocus pocus. I went and within two days I was feeling better

than I had in weeks. That same day I started to get the feeling back

in my hand and fingers (I ended up with permanent loss in my index

feeling) which were nothing but limp icicles at my side. It was

truly amazing, spooky in fact. But, it worked.

Most of my doctors agree that lower back is fine, they, like me, are

very leery in the neck area.

I can't tell you how it has improved the quality of my life. But,

there again it depends on the doctor. Their dedication, their

priority and their willingness to work a treatment plan centered

around your unique issues.

Hope this helps.

Ginny

/ Ginny

mailto:chriss@...

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wrote;

> sorry to hear about you back troubles. Have you ever considered a GOOD

chiropracter? I know that can't help every one but it certainly beats

surgery and drugs

.........You know how much I am into natural & even go to an osteopath up in

Caz ...but he wants to rule out a ruptured disc or degeneration before

sending me for manipulation which is common sense. I have an old ballet

instructor from Caz College who has a place over near Terry B. called The

Farm -she does a lot with NIA and body massage and I probably will go to her

after we see what is going on inside first. I have 40 degree scoliosis that

is also probably a factor. My last chiropractor tried to tell me he could

straighten my back. Been to chiropractors when I have a particular bone out

and I am a firm believer in their benefits if ,as you say ,they are good

ones

Didn't you tell me about one you know chris?

Deb

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>We do chiropractic, and both my babies were adjusted at birth. It's amazing

>that my children are the healthiest kids I know.

Could someone explain this to me? I've been hearing people on the list

talking about it and I've never heard of babies going to chiro's. thanks a

lot - I'm really interested and due to have a baby tomorrow technically

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Hi ,you said:

" Could someone explain this to me? I've been hearing people on the list

talking about it and I've never heard of babies going to chiro's. thanks a

lot - I'm really interested and due to have a baby tomorrow technically "

First of all, congratulations on your new baby (soon)! There have been findings

that for some babies, normal in the mother's womb up until the point at birth,

actually died at birth. The cause of this is the doctor pulling and twisting on

the babies head, thereby actually tearing the spinal cord in half. No one can

survive if the spinal cord is severed. My step sis is a chiro and she adjusts

lots of kids.

I believe, as do alot of other people, some chiropractors, some not, that

regular adjustments keeps the brain communicating efficiently with other parts

of the body. If there isn't efficient communication, lots of things can happen.

Just for instance, I know a few people whose kids had recurring ear infections.

Antiobiotics didn't really help as the infections kept coming back. Just a

couple of adjustments, and their kids had no more ear infections.

Personally, I KNOW when my kids are out of alignment. They start acting out in

ways that I know they aren't really themselves. I hope this has answered some of

your questions. If you need more information, please let me know.

Happy Birthing!!

Nanci

[Guest guest]

My personal chiropractic success story is that after regular " good "

chiropractic work, my thyroid began functioning normally, and I'm been off

Synthroid for 10 months now! The doctors can't explain why it started

working again. Said its unusual.

www.ChestnutHillCurlies.com

Re: chiropractors

>

> Hi ,you said:

>

> " Could someone explain this to me? I've been hearing people on the list

> talking about it and I've never heard of babies going to chiro's. thanks

a

> lot - I'm really interested and due to have a baby tomorrow technically

"

>

> First of all, congratulations on your new baby (soon)! There have been

findings that for some babies, normal in the mother's womb up until the

point at birth, actually died at birth. The cause of this is the doctor

pulling and twisting on the babies head, thereby actually tearing the spinal

cord in half. No one can survive if the spinal cord is severed. My step sis

is a chiro and she adjusts lots of kids.

> I believe, as do alot of other people, some chiropractors, some not, that

regular adjustments keeps the brain communicating efficiently with other

parts of the body. If there isn't efficient communication, lots of things

can happen. Just for instance, I know a few people whose kids had recurring

ear infections. Antiobiotics didn't really help as the infections kept

coming back. Just a couple of adjustments, and their kids had no more ear

infections.

> Personally, I KNOW when my kids are out of alignment. They start acting

out in ways that I know they aren't really themselves. I hope this has

answered some of your questions. If you need more information, please let me

know.

>

> Happy Birthing!!

> Nanci

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wonderful! So happy you are feeling better!

My personal chiropractic success story is that after regular " good "

chiropractic work, my thyroid began functioning normally, and I'm been off

Synthroid for 10 months now! The doctors can't explain why it started

working again. Said its unusual.

www.ChestnutHillCurlies.com

[Guest guest]

I am fairly new to chiropractic. I started going when I was 39 weeks

pregnant because I had terrible sciatica. I've been going back about

every two-three weeks since. My son received his first adjustment

when he was ten days old. My chiropractor is VERY gentle - I would

not have known she was adjusting him if she had not told me. My son

is only 5 months old and exclusively breastfed and extremely healthy

and good natured. As a bonus, my chiropractor is opposed to

vaccinations and really puts an emphasis on staying healthy

naturally.

Kayla in Georgia

mom to , 9/98, partially vaxed, and Will, born at home 5/02,

unvaxed

> >We do chiropractic, and both my babies were adjusted at birth.

It's amazing

> >that my children are the healthiest kids I know.

>

> Could someone explain this to me? I've been hearing people on the

list

> talking about it and I've never heard of babies going to chiro's.

thanks a

> lot - I'm really interested and due to have a baby tomorrow

technically

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[Guest guest]

Kayla, you said:

" As a bonus, my chiropractor is opposed to

vaccinations and really puts an emphasis on staying healthy naturally. "

I think that you will find that most chiropractors don't vaccinate and don't

recommend vaccinating. I'm looking forward to the class in chiropractic school

that deals with vaccination as I will have alot to say teehee! I have talked to

some students there and was worried about questioning the professors and the

info they give out. I was told that because this is a graduate school (and

probably not medical school) they really expect you to challenge what is being

given out if you think the information is incorrect.

Nanci

[Guest guest]

Not mine and she made it sound like there is a definate rift between chiros that

support vaccines and those who don't.

L.

Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00

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Kayla, you said:

" As a bonus, my chiropractor is opposed to

vaccinations and really puts an emphasis on staying healthy naturally. "

I think that you will find that most chiropractors don't vaccinate and don't

recommend vaccinating.

[Guest guest]

You should try it. If your spine is not fused (and I doubt it is with type

III) you likely have more strain on your spine than those without SMA

because you have less muscle support. So, you could have some alignment

issues that they can get back in order. I'm not sure about the regular

appointment stuff however, chiropractors can attempt to tell you that they

can fix everything including the kitchen sink, so be careful !!!

chiropractors

Does anyone with SMA see a chiropractor? Is this a good idea? I am 32 and

I have type 3, I am having some new pain in my back that is unbearable at

times, being treated with anti-inflamatories. My girlfriends mother is a

nurse and suggested a chiropractor, but I am nervous. Any advice or input?

[Guest guest]

I have been using chiropractic care for quite some years and find that it

definitely helps me with problems from the Stills and maintain what is left

of my health. The guy I am using now is also doing nutritional stuff with

me and thinks this will help with my sleep problems.

I would give it a shot, especially if the insurance pays.

Ann K

LI NY

Chiropractors

> Has anyone ever gone to a chiropractor for any types of treatments for

this

> stuff? I saw a guy this week who does all kinds of allergen testing,

> nutritional evaluations, etc. and he's convinced he can " really " help me

but

> that it'll be a 9 month project! On one hand, my insurance will pay, so

> figure it might be worth a shot. On the other hand, is it worth my time?

> Please let me know if you have any insight!

>

> Thanks,

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