Re: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know everything I used to do which now causes extreme pain and

disability, maybe not right in that moment, but soon and for a long time. 

All that means to me is to be careful about the weight, the way I'm standing,

lifting and the angle I bend and hold my arms away from my body.  I've recently

realized that looking down sets off a horrible spasm in those long muscles that

run the length of your spine.  Which in turn, causes nerve compression and a

whole host of referred pain.

So, the body teaches up if we are willing to learn.  It's my stubbornness that

makes me stupid enough to try again, after I've learned my lesson.

I think understanding the mechanical body is a good start but then there are all

those hormones and diseases that cause or prevent the body from operating

properly.  Knowing the causes sure helps, but I want the " way " to healing and

health.

Not asking for a whole lot am I?

Jennette

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>From: lulu <kirubitme@...>

>neck pain

>Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:07 PM

>Subject: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

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>I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lulu,

I took many years of science classes, including anatomy, physiology, biochem,

medical microbiology, hematology, immunology etc etc on the way to a masters in

microbiology and a masters in developmental and cell biology. But these classes

did not give me the practical knowledge I needed to understand my several

medical conditions. However they did prepare me to understand basic

biological/biochemical processes and scientific terms, which if you don't know,

it's easy to get lost reading textbooks and other technical literature. There

are some classes that would have helped more with my back and neck pain, if I'd

taken them at the time, and those would be kinesiology classes, which teach how

the human body moves, the importance of posture, the position the joints are

held in, the balance of opposing muscles, strength and weakness of muscles etc

etc. But I do have several kinesiology textbooks and the best is one by Kendall

et al. Muscles, testing and Function with Posture and Pain. This was one of my

son's kinesiology textbooks (which I've looked through all of them).

Ironically, he said that the Professor, who assigned Kendal et al. as required

reading, barely went over the book in class, and as a whole the class was lousy.

No wonder my physical therapists never said anything about my posture (which was

a large part of my problem (but not everyone's problem) even with the bad

arthritis)

Since you are having problems doing work like scrubbing with your arms, there

are 2 ways to approach that. One is to stop doing the work that provokes the

symptoms... but that leads to further weakness. I took that way for a long time

and just got me more disabled and eventually I couldn't even unload the

dishwasher without my neck spasming. The other way is to understand the

mechanics of what is happening and to find specific exercises to strengthen the

muscles that are weak. That is where finding a therapist who thoroughly

understands the mechanics of the body is most important, but finding an expert

is super hard as I found out (went through 4 PTs for my neck, no help) so the

next best thing is to learn from kinesiology textbooks and apply it to yourself.

As far as nutrition, my daughter-in-law is a registered dietitian and just got

her degree and certification. Her nutrition classes only give the basics,

biochem of digestion, food nutrients, normal dietary needs, and diets for

well-known medical conditions like diabetes or renal failure. And how to run an

institutional kitchen --economics and management. Most of it is the " company

line " in other words you won't find anything but what a nutritious diet is

supposed to consist of (which changes depending on the fda's opinion, I guess)

But you won't learn much about cutting edge stuff like food intolerances,

anti-nutrients in foods or the additives and methods of making processed foods

that are detrimental to our health or how advertising seduces us to eat too much

of unhealthy foods. But still taking classes with give you a foundation to

understand your own personal studies on nutrition and avoid most of the

misinformation on the web and at " nutrition " stores about nutrition and

nutritional supplements out there today.

In the end, everyone, has their individual medical problems that he/she has to

learn to understand and try to overcome. Sometimes the professionals we go to

can help, but quite often they can't. Then we have to find someone who can or

become our own expert. (Let me not forget to mention support groups, which are a

great way to learn about one's illness,especially rare illnesses. Support

groups have literally saved my life on 2 occasions.)

Rochelle

>

> I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?

>

[Guest guest]

I had anatomy as part of a Biology B.S. many years ago...

________________________________

From: lulu <kirubitme@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:07 PM

Subject: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?

[Guest guest]

Would you say the information you acquired from anatomy has helped you through

the process of the issues of your spine, the nerves and how it affects you?

'aquila no capit muscas'

From: Mark R Hardin <gilachub@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:46 AM

Subject: Re: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

I had anatomy as part of a Biology B.S. many years ago...

________________________________

From: lulu <kirubitme@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:07 PM

Subject: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?

[Guest guest]

Thank You for this information .

From: Rochelle <rccoc1977@...>

neck pain

Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 2:27 PM

Subject: Re: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

Hi Lulu,

I took many years of science classes, including anatomy, physiology, biochem,

medical microbiology, hematology, immunology etc etc on the way to a masters in

microbiology and a masters in developmental and cell biology. But these classes

did not give me the practical knowledge I needed to understand my several

medical conditions. However they did prepare me to understand basic

biological/biochemical processes and scientific terms, which if you don't know,

it's easy to get lost reading textbooks and other technical literature. There

are some classes that would have helped more with my back and neck pain, if I'd

taken them at the time, and those would be kinesiology classes, which teach how

the human body moves, the importance of posture, the position the joints are

held in, the balance of opposing muscles, strength and weakness of muscles etc

etc. But I do have several kinesiology textbooks and the best is one by Kendall

et al. Muscles, testing and

Function with Posture and Pain. This was one of my son's kinesiology textbooks

(which I've looked through all of them).

Ironically, he said that the Professor, who assigned Kendal et al. as required

reading, barely went over the book in class, and as a whole the class was lousy.

No wonder my physical therapists never said anything about my posture (which was

a large part of my problem (but not everyone's problem) even with the bad

arthritis)

Since you are having problems doing work like scrubbing with your arms, there

are 2 ways to approach that. One is to stop doing the work that provokes the

symptoms... but that leads to further weakness. I took that way for a long time

and just got me more disabled and eventually I couldn't even unload the

dishwasher without my neck spasming. The other way is to understand the

mechanics of what is happening and to find specific exercises to strengthen the

muscles that are weak. That is where finding a therapist who thoroughly

understands the mechanics of the body is most important, but finding an expert

is super hard as I found out (went through 4 PTs for my neck, no help) so the

next best thing is to learn from kinesiology textbooks and apply it to yourself.

As far as nutrition, my daughter-in-law is a registered dietitian and just got

her degree and certification. Her nutrition classes only give the basics,

biochem of digestion, food nutrients, normal dietary needs, and diets for

well-known medical conditions like diabetes or renal failure. And how to run an

institutional kitchen --economics and management. Most of it is the " company

line " in other words you won't find anything but what a nutritious diet is

supposed to consist of (which changes depending on the fda's opinion, I guess)

But you won't learn much about cutting edge stuff like food intolerances,

anti-nutrients in foods or the additives and methods of making processed foods

that are detrimental to our health or how advertising seduces us to eat too much

of unhealthy foods. But still taking classes with give you a foundation to

understand your own personal studies on nutrition and avoid most of the

misinformation on the web and at " nutrition "

stores about nutrition and nutritional supplements out there today.

In the end, everyone, has their individual medical problems that he/she has to

learn to understand and try to overcome. Sometimes the professionals we go to

can help, but quite often they can't. Then we have to find someone who can or

become our own expert. (Let me not forget to mention support groups, which are a

great way to learn about one's illness,especially rare illnesses. Support

groups have literally saved my life on 2 occasions.)

Rochelle

>

> I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?

>

[Guest guest]

Lori - It certainly has! It has helped me understand what is causing me the

pain, understand what the doctor says is the cause and why certain procedures

are what he is using and not others and it has helped me determine when I am

ready for to go ahead with certain treatments and not with others.  If I did

not have that background I would have a lot more fear of certain procedures and

I would be asking a thousand more questions.

When I look at an X-ray or MRI I understand what the doc says he is finding and

I can really see when he points out the problem areas what he is

saying...Thinking about it I would make decisions solely on whether it would

provide pain relief and what I hear form others results rather than to

understand what the surgeon is telling me about possible outcomes, rates of

success and understanding what he is going to do or what non-0surgical

treatments are being recommended and what the possible side-effects are and why

they are either temporary or possibly permanent. 

In short - GREAT QUESTION!  and definitely it has made a world of difference

for me and I think for what the doctor's are willing to share with me...

mark

________________________________

From: lori esau <kirubitme@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:42 PM

Subject: Re: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

Would you say the information you acquired from anatomy has helped you through

the process of the issues of your spine, the nerves and how it affects you?

'aquila no capit muscas'

From: Mark R Hardin <gilachub@...>

" neck pain " <neck pain >

Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 9:46 AM

Subject: Re: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

I had anatomy as part of a Biology B.S. many years ago...

________________________________

From: lulu <kirubitme@...>

neck pain

Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:07 PM

Subject: Has anyone taken an Anatomy class?

 

I just passed my H & P to go into Anatomy. I was curious if anyone has taken

anatomy or maybe nutrition to better help their body to function better. I have

several issues that hinder my function. So I am doing whatever I can to

understand and maybe have better control of hurting myself. Like scrubbing

something hits me hard later. Planting in the garden. Can't dig holes anymore.

How about you?