Re: Return

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Goodness you have been through the ringer haven't you? I hope your

new PM Dr will just leave your meds alone once you call today. Were

you getting good relief from that dose? Do you know why they wanted

to change the dose? Doctors are so frustrating! I finally have a good

one but I've had some horrible ones! Don't worry about writing books

here, a lot of people do and it is therapuetic. Vent away and I hope

you are recovered from the pnemonia and your pain levels go down!

Hugs,

>

> Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago and

> teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

really

> struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help me

> not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

and

> when I get to it.

>

> For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM has

> left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he was

> just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

Okay

> fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

barely

> spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

about

> the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

pain

> shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

call

> and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why did

I

> have to go through that????

>

> Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

The

> part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance when

I

> was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

they

> could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

my

> skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had to

> apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

approved

> yet because my husband works so we'll see.

>

> Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

those

> beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed and

it

> would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of the

> pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

top

> of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I managed

to

> get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

antibiotics

> at home.

>

> Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

hoopla!

> Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

have

> any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

meds

> and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will have

> to call her on Mon!

>

> Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead of

> time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

my

> friends except one and being bored!

>

> Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not for

> you!

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Goodness you have been through the ringer haven't you? I hope your

new PM Dr will just leave your meds alone once you call today. Were

you getting good relief from that dose? Do you know why they wanted

to change the dose? Doctors are so frustrating! I finally have a good

one but I've had some horrible ones! Don't worry about writing books

here, a lot of people do and it is therapuetic. Vent away and I hope

you are recovered from the pnemonia and your pain levels go down!

Hugs,

>

> Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago and

> teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

really

> struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help me

> not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

and

> when I get to it.

>

> For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM has

> left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he was

> just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

Okay

> fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

barely

> spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

about

> the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

pain

> shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

call

> and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why did

I

> have to go through that????

>

> Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

The

> part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance when

I

> was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

they

> could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

my

> skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had to

> apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

approved

> yet because my husband works so we'll see.

>

> Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

those

> beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed and

it

> would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of the

> pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

top

> of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I managed

to

> get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

antibiotics

> at home.

>

> Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

hoopla!

> Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

have

> any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

meds

> and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will have

> to call her on Mon!

>

> Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead of

> time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

my

> friends except one and being bored!

>

> Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not for

> you!

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Dearest Gail,

Whew!

you have really gone though the ringer, lady!

And welcome back to the group too, (not that I am any official virtual

group hostess-) .

As for the tome writing, I have extensive background in writing so be well

with it--- I enjoy a good well written essay or a titan effort of words replete

with splendid passages of wit or whine-- it is A-OK with me!

And stay with us-- we all need uplifting in the plain-pain that we here dwell

in.

As for me,

I just found out in January that I have moderate cervical stenosis and

cervical ridiculopathy.

I just went through a 6 week regime of PT and am on a high dose of

hydrocodone. I am seeing the ortho-pod spine Dr on Thursday and he will assign

me another prescription of PT and perhaps another epidural. The first one only

lasted about 4 weeks or so but it made me feel like King Kong. For the first

time in years I could get out of bed without feeling like I was crippled and I

slept through the night-- if that has anything to do with the epidural then let

them reign!

Take care!

Sincerely Annie

A poet is, after all, to see

[Guest guest]

Dearest Gail,

Whew!

you have really gone though the ringer, lady!

And welcome back to the group too, (not that I am any official virtual

group hostess-) .

As for the tome writing, I have extensive background in writing so be well

with it--- I enjoy a good well written essay or a titan effort of words replete

with splendid passages of wit or whine-- it is A-OK with me!

And stay with us-- we all need uplifting in the plain-pain that we here dwell

in.

As for me,

I just found out in January that I have moderate cervical stenosis and

cervical ridiculopathy.

I just went through a 6 week regime of PT and am on a high dose of

hydrocodone. I am seeing the ortho-pod spine Dr on Thursday and he will assign

me another prescription of PT and perhaps another epidural. The first one only

lasted about 4 weeks or so but it made me feel like King Kong. For the first

time in years I could get out of bed without feeling like I was crippled and I

slept through the night-- if that has anything to do with the epidural then let

them reign!

Take care!

Sincerely Annie

A poet is, after all, to see

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that I

can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen script pad

warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns and

all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to write

any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially deadly

if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some time...

I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no increase

in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I got

sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not well,

really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me to

throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be feeling

too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like! Most

of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside world.

I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with it

I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

Debbie C.

>

> Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago and

> teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

really

> struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help me

> not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

and

> when I get to it.

>

> For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM has

> left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he was

> just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

Okay

> fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

barely

> spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

about

> the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

pain

> shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

call

> and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why did

I

> have to go through that????

>

> Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

The

> part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance when

I

> was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

they

> could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

my

> skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had to

> apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

approved

> yet because my husband works so we'll see.

>

> Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

those

> beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed and

it

> would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of the

> pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

top

> of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I managed

to

> get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

antibiotics

> at home.

>

> Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

hoopla!

> Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

have

> any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

meds

> and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will have

> to call her on Mon!

>

> Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead of

> time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

my

> friends except one and being bored!

>

> Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not for

> you!

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that I

can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen script pad

warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns and

all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to write

any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially deadly

if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some time...

I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no increase

in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I got

sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not well,

really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me to

throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be feeling

too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like! Most

of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside world.

I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with it

I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

Debbie C.

>

> Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago and

> teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

really

> struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help me

> not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

and

> when I get to it.

>

> For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM has

> left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he was

> just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

Okay

> fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

barely

> spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

about

> the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

pain

> shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

call

> and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why did

I

> have to go through that????

>

> Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

The

> part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance when

I

> was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

they

> could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

my

> skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had to

> apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

approved

> yet because my husband works so we'll see.

>

> Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

those

> beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed and

it

> would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of the

> pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

top

> of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I managed

to

> get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

antibiotics

> at home.

>

> Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

hoopla!

> Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

have

> any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

meds

> and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will have

> to call her on Mon!

>

> Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead of

> time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

my

> friends except one and being bored!

>

> Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not for

> you!

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

> >Debbie, I'm so sorry to hear what you have had to endure with

medications. That is just wrong on so many levels! It is your RIGHT

to have medications that allow you to function and to live with the

pain at least at a tolerable level! Did you say that your meds were

prescribed by a pain management specialist? I'm sorry...the brain

doesn't work like it used to with the meds.

It sounds like you slipped through the cracks because of their legal

consequences which doesn't sound fair to say the least! I hope that

you can find someone who can pick up with your meds. Why is it so

difficult to make a switch with Medicare? How about your family

doc? Would they be able to manage your meds until you find another

PM doc? I hope you don't think I am being nosy, just kind of

brainstorming.

Anyway, I do hope that you get some changes soon and that you can

also begin to feel better physically all the way around! You've

certainly done enough suffering I'd say.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

> >Debbie, I'm so sorry to hear what you have had to endure with

medications. That is just wrong on so many levels! It is your RIGHT

to have medications that allow you to function and to live with the

pain at least at a tolerable level! Did you say that your meds were

prescribed by a pain management specialist? I'm sorry...the brain

doesn't work like it used to with the meds.

It sounds like you slipped through the cracks because of their legal

consequences which doesn't sound fair to say the least! I hope that

you can find someone who can pick up with your meds. Why is it so

difficult to make a switch with Medicare? How about your family

doc? Would they be able to manage your meds until you find another

PM doc? I hope you don't think I am being nosy, just kind of

brainstorming.

Anyway, I do hope that you get some changes soon and that you can

also begin to feel better physically all the way around! You've

certainly done enough suffering I'd say.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

> >Debbie, I'm so sorry to hear what you have had to endure with

medications. That is just wrong on so many levels! It is your RIGHT

to have medications that allow you to function and to live with the

pain at least at a tolerable level! Did you say that your meds were

prescribed by a pain management specialist? I'm sorry...the brain

doesn't work like it used to with the meds.

It sounds like you slipped through the cracks because of their legal

consequences which doesn't sound fair to say the least! I hope that

you can find someone who can pick up with your meds. Why is it so

difficult to make a switch with Medicare? How about your family

doc? Would they be able to manage your meds until you find another

PM doc? I hope you don't think I am being nosy, just kind of

brainstorming.

Anyway, I do hope that you get some changes soon and that you can

also begin to feel better physically all the way around! You've

certainly done enough suffering I'd say.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

> >Debbie, I'm so sorry to hear what you have had to endure with

medications. That is just wrong on so many levels! It is your RIGHT

to have medications that allow you to function and to live with the

pain at least at a tolerable level! Did you say that your meds were

prescribed by a pain management specialist? I'm sorry...the brain

doesn't work like it used to with the meds.

It sounds like you slipped through the cracks because of their legal

consequences which doesn't sound fair to say the least! I hope that

you can find someone who can pick up with your meds. Why is it so

difficult to make a switch with Medicare? How about your family

doc? Would they be able to manage your meds until you find another

PM doc? I hope you don't think I am being nosy, just kind of

brainstorming.

Anyway, I do hope that you get some changes soon and that you can

also begin to feel better physically all the way around! You've

certainly done enough suffering I'd say.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

By all means BRAINSTORM AWAY! I'm always open to listening and take

all advice into consideration. Seems to me that all roads are

pointing to making a change with my medicare/insurance co., and that

would mean changing both my pcp and my pm doc. I will be looking into

what I'd need to do for that, my pharmacist offered to help me find

some good doctors closer to my home, and that will probably be the

answer in the end. I need to look back into the rules of medicare and

the insurance co. that I chose, for some reason I recall that you can

only change your insurance once a year, in Nov. As far as doctor

changes I think it's twice a year, which I've already done once from

learing the hard way that each doctor is contracted to refer to only

one pain doctor...and I was trying to keep my pain doc at that time.

I'm going to do some research, but bad timing....just got a phone

call to tell me that hospice said that mom is getting worse and could

pass at any time now. I don't want to be in worse shape when that

happens and possibly not be able to function at all...with what

little function that I already have.

I thank you all for your help and advice...I really do feel that this

is the only place that I am truly understood. I am blessed though

that I have a very supportive husband, he's great! And I know that

whatever I'm going through he is going through right along with me,

and he understands my pain and limitations.

Thanks again! I appreciate you all!

Debbie

P.S. Gail...I love the way you write! You have a way about you that

makes me feel that you'd be a real hoot to have around! Wish I had

you all as my neighbors...we could really get some things done if we

could put each of our strengths together. Think of all we could do

then!

> >

> > Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that

I

> > can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

> > medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

> > My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen

script

> pad

> > warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns

> and

> > all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

> > arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

> > made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to

> write

> > any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially

deadly

> > if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

> > needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some

> time...

> > I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no

> increase

> > in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I

> got

> > sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not

well,

> > really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me

> to

> > throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

> > feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be

> feeling

> > too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like!

> Most

> > of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside

world.

> > I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

> > People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with

> it

> > I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

> > Debbie C.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

By all means BRAINSTORM AWAY! I'm always open to listening and take

all advice into consideration. Seems to me that all roads are

pointing to making a change with my medicare/insurance co., and that

would mean changing both my pcp and my pm doc. I will be looking into

what I'd need to do for that, my pharmacist offered to help me find

some good doctors closer to my home, and that will probably be the

answer in the end. I need to look back into the rules of medicare and

the insurance co. that I chose, for some reason I recall that you can

only change your insurance once a year, in Nov. As far as doctor

changes I think it's twice a year, which I've already done once from

learing the hard way that each doctor is contracted to refer to only

one pain doctor...and I was trying to keep my pain doc at that time.

I'm going to do some research, but bad timing....just got a phone

call to tell me that hospice said that mom is getting worse and could

pass at any time now. I don't want to be in worse shape when that

happens and possibly not be able to function at all...with what

little function that I already have.

I thank you all for your help and advice...I really do feel that this

is the only place that I am truly understood. I am blessed though

that I have a very supportive husband, he's great! And I know that

whatever I'm going through he is going through right along with me,

and he understands my pain and limitations.

Thanks again! I appreciate you all!

Debbie

P.S. Gail...I love the way you write! You have a way about you that

makes me feel that you'd be a real hoot to have around! Wish I had

you all as my neighbors...we could really get some things done if we

could put each of our strengths together. Think of all we could do

then!

> >

> > Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that

I

> > can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

> > medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

> > My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen

script

> pad

> > warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns

> and

> > all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

> > arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

> > made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to

> write

> > any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially

deadly

> > if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

> > needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some

> time...

> > I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no

> increase

> > in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I

> got

> > sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not

well,

> > really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me

> to

> > throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

> > feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be

> feeling

> > too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like!

> Most

> > of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside

world.

> > I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

> > People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with

> it

> > I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

> > Debbie C.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

By all means BRAINSTORM AWAY! I'm always open to listening and take

all advice into consideration. Seems to me that all roads are

pointing to making a change with my medicare/insurance co., and that

would mean changing both my pcp and my pm doc. I will be looking into

what I'd need to do for that, my pharmacist offered to help me find

some good doctors closer to my home, and that will probably be the

answer in the end. I need to look back into the rules of medicare and

the insurance co. that I chose, for some reason I recall that you can

only change your insurance once a year, in Nov. As far as doctor

changes I think it's twice a year, which I've already done once from

learing the hard way that each doctor is contracted to refer to only

one pain doctor...and I was trying to keep my pain doc at that time.

I'm going to do some research, but bad timing....just got a phone

call to tell me that hospice said that mom is getting worse and could

pass at any time now. I don't want to be in worse shape when that

happens and possibly not be able to function at all...with what

little function that I already have.

I thank you all for your help and advice...I really do feel that this

is the only place that I am truly understood. I am blessed though

that I have a very supportive husband, he's great! And I know that

whatever I'm going through he is going through right along with me,

and he understands my pain and limitations.

Thanks again! I appreciate you all!

Debbie

P.S. Gail...I love the way you write! You have a way about you that

makes me feel that you'd be a real hoot to have around! Wish I had

you all as my neighbors...we could really get some things done if we

could put each of our strengths together. Think of all we could do

then!

> >

> > Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that

I

> > can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

> > medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

> > My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen

script

> pad

> > warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns

> and

> > all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

> > arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

> > made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to

> write

> > any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially

deadly

> > if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

> > needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some

> time...

> > I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no

> increase

> > in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I

> got

> > sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not

well,

> > really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me

> to

> > throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

> > feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be

> feeling

> > too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like!

> Most

> > of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside

world.

> > I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

> > People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with

> it

> > I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

> > Debbie C.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Gail,

By all means BRAINSTORM AWAY! I'm always open to listening and take

all advice into consideration. Seems to me that all roads are

pointing to making a change with my medicare/insurance co., and that

would mean changing both my pcp and my pm doc. I will be looking into

what I'd need to do for that, my pharmacist offered to help me find

some good doctors closer to my home, and that will probably be the

answer in the end. I need to look back into the rules of medicare and

the insurance co. that I chose, for some reason I recall that you can

only change your insurance once a year, in Nov. As far as doctor

changes I think it's twice a year, which I've already done once from

learing the hard way that each doctor is contracted to refer to only

one pain doctor...and I was trying to keep my pain doc at that time.

I'm going to do some research, but bad timing....just got a phone

call to tell me that hospice said that mom is getting worse and could

pass at any time now. I don't want to be in worse shape when that

happens and possibly not be able to function at all...with what

little function that I already have.

I thank you all for your help and advice...I really do feel that this

is the only place that I am truly understood. I am blessed though

that I have a very supportive husband, he's great! And I know that

whatever I'm going through he is going through right along with me,

and he understands my pain and limitations.

Thanks again! I appreciate you all!

Debbie

P.S. Gail...I love the way you write! You have a way about you that

makes me feel that you'd be a real hoot to have around! Wish I had

you all as my neighbors...we could really get some things done if we

could put each of our strengths together. Think of all we could do

then!

> >

> > Hi Gail! I'm Debbie and I just wanted to say hi and tell you that

I

> > can relate with your frustration with your doctors. I've been on

> > medication for 8 yrs, and for 6 of them on the fentanyl patch.

> > My pm doc's have had some run in's with the FDA (one stolen

script

> pad

> > warrented US marshalls to pay them a surprise visit, machine guns

> and

> > all at the office...then another patient selling their scripts was

> > arrested and that came down on them too) So...a couple bad apples

> > made us all pay for it. They decided that they are not going to

> write

> > any more scripts for the patch...since it can be potentially

deadly

> > if used wrong. Being on medicare and to make a change would mean

> > needing a new pcp for a different referral and would take some

> time...

> > I had no choice but to go through withdrawls from it with no

> increase

> > in oral pain meds to compensate. It's been HELL! To top it off I

> got

> > sick, fever for two weeks and now on week four I am still not

well,

> > really conjested in my chest still and all the coughing caused me

> to

> > throw out my neck and back (which are a mess to start with). Been

> > feeling pretty miserable here, so I understand how you must be

> feeling

> > too. I'm so sorry!! Hey...you feel free to ramble all you like!

> Most

> > of us are home bound and this is our lifeline to the outside

world.

> > I too have lost most of my friends so I get what you're saying.

> > People that aren't in this position have a hard time dealing with

> it

> > I suppose...Sorry that you are going through so much!!

> > Debbie C.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeannie!

Yes, you are understanding correctly. It's just very confusing.

The med they took me off of suddenly was the fentanyl patch...I was

on the Duragesic (brand name) 75mgh . Yes there were reports of

some deaths but that was either from abuse or there was a problem with

certain lot of the 25 mgh dose. In the case of my docs, there was

patient abuse going on, one was arrested for selling his on the

sreet, and one patient stole a script pad from the office...don't

think that they know who but there were a lot of false scripts flying

around with my docs name on them and the FDA was involved in both of

these cases. Now, I think they're just covering their butts and just

decided that they will not write for this anymore. Cannot get sued

since they have given us all a medication that is for withdrawls.

I'm just not using it because it is high blood pressure medication

and mine is low usually. I did try it but it really didn't help, so

just dealt with the withdrawl feelings. I didn't think it would be

much, I read from googling it that this med does come out of your

system fast...so I thought it wouldn't be that bad. I was wrong!

I'm feeling better now, but this has taken me quite some time, longer

than I had expected...then also went through a bad case of the flu at

the same time and my doctor said that that was probably not just the

flu when I saw him but withdrawls still and offered to give me

another script for blood pressure medication, which I declined, still

have some here. It gave me the feeling of being light headed

everytime I stood up...don't know if that was the medication, the

flu, or withdrawls....beats me at this point!!! LoL!

Thank you for your thoughts and prayers! Please keep them coming!!

Love,

Debbie

>

> Debbie,

> I think I've missed something somewhere, but is it just the

fentanyl patches that they are taking you off and that are causing

you to go through withdrawals? I was just reading online how they

were being taken off the market because it caused some deaths. I just

about had a nervous breakdown because I thought i read that your dr.

was saying that all drs. could pull us off pain meds. at any time. I

know they could if they have just cause, as if they found out we were

selling them, or trying to get scripts from other drs., but other

than that, they can't just stop writing scrips. for us, they would be

up to their necks in lawsuits, can you imagine how many people could

possibly die from withdrawals? I've been through my share of them,

and even with medication that was supposed to help, it was pure agony.

> From what I know about medicare, you're only allowed to change

insurance plans such as a medicare supplemental plan, sometime in

Nov. as I recall, but I have a supplemental medicare plan, and can

change drs. any time I wish, but I have a PFF plan, are you on an

HMO? I know with HMO's, they are very strict, my daughter is on one,

she can't get the referrals she needs, and is stuck if she doesn't

like the dr. she has. I think the key is to checking what type of

plan you have and going from there.

> I am so sorry to hear about your mothermy thoughts and prayers go

out to her and your family.

> Sincerely

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Jeannie..Oh ya, I forgot to say...Yes, I am on a Medicare HMO,

you're right! They sure don't make it easy!!

Hugs,

Debbie

> >

> > Debbie,

> > I think I've missed something somewhere, but is it just the

> fentanyl patches that they are taking you off and that are causing

> you to go through withdrawals? I was just reading online how they

> were being taken off the market because it caused some deaths. I

just

> about had a nervous breakdown because I thought i read that your

dr.

> was saying that all drs. could pull us off pain meds. at any time.

I

> know they could if they have just cause, as if they found out we

were

> selling them, or trying to get scripts from other drs., but other

> than that, they can't just stop writing scrips. for us, they would

be

> up to their necks in lawsuits, can you imagine how many people

could

> possibly die from withdrawals? I've been through my share of them,

> and even with medication that was supposed to help, it was pure

agony.

> > From what I know about medicare, you're only allowed to change

> insurance plans such as a medicare supplemental plan, sometime in

> Nov. as I recall, but I have a supplemental medicare plan, and can

> change drs. any time I wish, but I have a PFF plan, are you on an

> HMO? I know with HMO's, they are very strict, my daughter is on

one,

> she can't get the referrals she needs, and is stuck if she doesn't

> like the dr. she has. I think the key is to checking what type of

> plan you have and going from there.

> > I am so sorry to hear about your mothermy thoughts and prayers go

> out to her and your family.

> > Sincerely

> >

> > Jeannie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

> http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

> >

I just wanted to say thank you Debbie for your compassionate response

and for others that responded too. I did since my post got nurse

wratchet to increase the Percocet. It is not ideal, but better than

previously. the bottom line is that I have to spend more time in bed

or the pain levels shoot up and I prefer not to go that route. There

are times when I don't have any choice, like when I see my grandkids

(which I will not sacrifice)but I just have to bite the bullet. My

old PM had it set up so that there was an extra dosage there to play

with in case I really needed it for those kind of occasions, but I

already know that this NP is not going to give me anything without a

fight and I am just not up to any battles these days!

Again, thank you for your kind words.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Hello all. My name is Gail, and I was here several months ago

and

> > teetered about being in a support group, plus I was inolved in

> > another group as well. One thing just led to another and I am

> really

> > struggling pain wise right now. I still go to the other site as

> > well, but I thought if I bump up my network, it could only help

me

> > not hurt me. If it becomes too much I will face that obstacle if

> and

> > when I get to it.

> >

> > For right now the one thing that is going on is that my old PM

has

> > left the facility he was at, and I miss him terribly because he

was

> > just da' bomb!! I then went to see a doc that had replced him.

> Okay

> > fine, except that he reminded me of Steve from SNL and

> barely

> > spoke English! Well, on the first visit he cut my meds, talked

> about

> > the change of meds, and encouraged me to communicate with him if

> > there were any changes. Well, there were changes all right! My

> pain

> > shot up and I was in a lot of distress. So, I gave the office a

> call

> > and he increased the meds to what they were to begin with. Why

did

> I

> > have to go through that????

> >

> > Okay, then I got pneumonia and was in the hospital for 2 weeks.

> The

> > part of this that is so traumatic is that I lost my insurance

when

> I

> > was terminated from my job last year. I was terminated because

> they

> > could not accomodate me with a position that would be inducive to

> my

> > skills, but be " ergonomic " for my back!!! Yeah right! So I had

to

> > apply for assistance in the hospital and don't know if I am

> approved

> > yet because my husband works so we'll see.

> >

> > Okay, I have a horrible time in the hosp with back pain because

> those

> > beds are just not right!! I would slide to the end of the bed

and

> it

> > would take me a half hour to get back up to the top because of

the

> > pain in my lungs and in my back. They were good about ataying on

> top

> > of the pain. They were giving me Dilaudid every 2 hrs. I

managed

> to

> > get released with the promise that I would stay on the 2

> antibiotics

> > at home.

> >

> > Okay, so I missed my appt while I was in the hosp so I ran out of

> > meds when I got home. My memory is zero because of all the

> hoopla!

> > Okay, I get into the pain clinic and they have switched the doc

> > again!!! I now am seeing the NP who is like Hitler, but I don't

> have

> > any choice but to see her. She AGAIN switched my dosage on the

> meds

> > and I am about to scream! I cannot tolerate this pain an will

have

> > to call her on Mon!

> >

> > Oh yes, I have a tendency to write books..and I apologize ahead

of

> > time for this. I guess it has something to do with losing all of

> my

> > friends except one and being bored!

> >

> > Thank you if you got this far for listening to me complain and

> > whine. I guess this is supposed to be healthy for me...but not

for

> > you!

> > Gail

Thank you jenny for your kindness, I really do apreciate the

support. I got the NP to increase one dose on the percocet, which

helps, but isn't ideal. When I had the Perdocet " up " to 5 times

daily it gave me some freedom if I needed it and I didn't always use

it. It helped, but nothing will completely resolve the pain issue.

Still it was much better than what I am having right now. I suppose

that this is the way it is right now and I just have to accept that I

cannot increase any activity or the pain will be out of control and I

don't want to go there. The only time I make that sacrifice is when

the g-kids are here. When they are here I could almost forget the

pain, and I know that afterwards I will pay h***, but it is one of

the only luxuries I have right now and I just cannot and do not wish

to forego that luxury!

Thank You for your support

Gail

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good Morning Gail!

Glad to see you back posting again!

I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't see your

part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

(which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of the

previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway) to show

under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of the

previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look for

it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd answer

that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you place

your message!!

Hope you're doing well!!

Have a wonderful day!!

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Thank you Debbie. I thought I'd try it just to see of I could manage

something simple. I'm joking, but I'm not. It seems that my memory

and my sense of following directions went down the toilet when I

started with these meds. I know that it's better than going without

the meds and I have to keep reminding myself that I need to be

thankful and not so sinister about everything. It could be worse,

much worse. So, with that thank you Debbie and I hope that I can

just remember now!!

Gail

- In neck pain , " Debbie Carlomagno "

<debbiecarlomagno@...> wrote:

>

> Good Morning Gail!

> Glad to see you back posting again!

> I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't see

your

> part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of the

> previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway) to

show

> under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of the

> previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look for

> it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

answer

> that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you place

> your message!!

> Hope you're doing well!!

> Have a wonderful day!!

> Debbie

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Debbie. I thought I'd try it just to see of I could manage

something simple. I'm joking, but I'm not. It seems that my memory

and my sense of following directions went down the toilet when I

started with these meds. I know that it's better than going without

the meds and I have to keep reminding myself that I need to be

thankful and not so sinister about everything. It could be worse,

much worse. So, with that thank you Debbie and I hope that I can

just remember now!!

Gail

- In neck pain , " Debbie Carlomagno "

<debbiecarlomagno@...> wrote:

>

> Good Morning Gail!

> Glad to see you back posting again!

> I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't see

your

> part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of the

> previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway) to

show

> under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of the

> previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look for

> it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

answer

> that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you place

> your message!!

> Hope you're doing well!!

> Have a wonderful day!!

> Debbie

>

[Guest guest]

Your Welcome Gail! It took me a while to figure that one out too!

After being on a doggie group for a while I figured it out, then

when I came here I learned one more trick, you might already know

this...deleteing or editting the prevoius messages...if you hold the

mousie button down and highlight part of the previous message (or

not) but if there is still more messages prior to those it gets a

little long for some to download the message as some have quite a

few that go along with them ( you can always go to the bottom of the

page to see all the messeges that go with them and can easily refer

to them) I personally like it when the whole message is there that

the reply goes to...some edit (you'll see it happen) and only leave

the part of the message that they are replying to in there. My

memory is bad too, so I like to look back and go " Oh ya! " ...anywhay

IF you do this, and you do not have to! Then hold down the button to

highlight part or however much you'd like to delete, then (you can

let go know of the button) hit the delete button and it cleans up

the message nicely. So...if you conquer the first thing, and it

looks like you did, then try a little editting here and there to

shorten up some of the threads that come through as several really

long ones that increase download times for some and space....or NOT

and that's fine too...no pressure and I never even noticed if you do

this already, but just thought I'd share that that was the second

thing that I learned...I thought I'd pop a blood vessel thinking

about it, but it was easy! LOL! Don't push yourself...we're easy!

I do the same, I'm always trying to remind myself that it can always

get worse!!! Gets me through the day and try to be thankful for what

I do have...even though I feel like I'm going to fall over into this

computer right now from pain! Did something STUPID, again! Got tired

of sitting and healing from injections I just bit the bullet and

pushed myself to clean the house and do some laundry...even though

my whole body has been screaming at me for quite some time...now

that I stopped...OH BOY, This is INTENSE!! Going to lay down with my

buddy the ice pack!

Hugs!

Debbie

> >

> > Good Morning Gail!

> > Glad to see you back posting again!

> > I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't

see

> your

> > part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> > (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of

the

> > previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway)

to

> show

> > under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of

the

> > previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look

for

> > it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

> answer

> > that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you

place

> > your message!!

> > Hope you're doing well!!

> > Have a wonderful day!!

> > Debbie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your Welcome Gail! It took me a while to figure that one out too!

After being on a doggie group for a while I figured it out, then

when I came here I learned one more trick, you might already know

this...deleteing or editting the prevoius messages...if you hold the

mousie button down and highlight part of the previous message (or

not) but if there is still more messages prior to those it gets a

little long for some to download the message as some have quite a

few that go along with them ( you can always go to the bottom of the

page to see all the messeges that go with them and can easily refer

to them) I personally like it when the whole message is there that

the reply goes to...some edit (you'll see it happen) and only leave

the part of the message that they are replying to in there. My

memory is bad too, so I like to look back and go " Oh ya! " ...anywhay

IF you do this, and you do not have to! Then hold down the button to

highlight part or however much you'd like to delete, then (you can

let go know of the button) hit the delete button and it cleans up

the message nicely. So...if you conquer the first thing, and it

looks like you did, then try a little editting here and there to

shorten up some of the threads that come through as several really

long ones that increase download times for some and space....or NOT

and that's fine too...no pressure and I never even noticed if you do

this already, but just thought I'd share that that was the second

thing that I learned...I thought I'd pop a blood vessel thinking

about it, but it was easy! LOL! Don't push yourself...we're easy!

I do the same, I'm always trying to remind myself that it can always

get worse!!! Gets me through the day and try to be thankful for what

I do have...even though I feel like I'm going to fall over into this

computer right now from pain! Did something STUPID, again! Got tired

of sitting and healing from injections I just bit the bullet and

pushed myself to clean the house and do some laundry...even though

my whole body has been screaming at me for quite some time...now

that I stopped...OH BOY, This is INTENSE!! Going to lay down with my

buddy the ice pack!

Hugs!

Debbie

> >

> > Good Morning Gail!

> > Glad to see you back posting again!

> > I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't

see

> your

> > part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> > (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of

the

> > previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway)

to

> show

> > under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of

the

> > previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look

for

> > it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

> answer

> > that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you

place

> > your message!!

> > Hope you're doing well!!

> > Have a wonderful day!!

> > Debbie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

PS. Gail, If you forget just ask again, no problems! ;-)

Hugs!

Debbie

> >

> > Good Morning Gail!

> > Glad to see you back posting again!

> > I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't

see

> your

> > part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> > (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of

the

> > previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway)

to

> show

> > under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of

the

> > previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look

for

> > it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

> answer

> > that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you

place

> > your message!!

> > Hope you're doing well!!

> > Have a wonderful day!!

> > Debbie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

PS. Gail, If you forget just ask again, no problems! ;-)

Hugs!

Debbie

> >

> > Good Morning Gail!

> > Glad to see you back posting again!

> > I just wanted to respond to your question about why you don't

see

> your

> > part of the post when you reply to a message. What you are doing

> > (which is fine!) is you put your response towards the bottom of

the

> > previous message. If you want your message (first part anyway)

to

> show

> > under the subject, you need to put your response on the top of

the

> > previous ones. It's no biggie though, we all know where to look

for

> > it...but since you asked why it looked different I thought I'd

> answer

> > that! We just are happy to hear from you, regardless how you

place

> > your message!!

> > Hope you're doing well!!

> > Have a wonderful day!!

> > Debbie

> >

>