Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 HI.If you get that job you.ll be able to help Carol getting the treatment she so desperately needs.The great spirit will reward you with a penthouse in heaven with a attached zoo.Willem. Re: Re: Tatezi You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 HI.If you get that job you.ll be able to help Carol getting the treatment she so desperately needs.The great spirit will reward you with a penthouse in heaven with a attached zoo.Willem. Re: Re: Tatezi You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Wouldn't it be something if I were the one they picked. It's a fluke I'm a contender...I only worked there for a month. But then it's not so easy to find people who openly talk about the fact they have hep c. Gotta run....have a good...night.... Liefs Tatezi Re: Re: Tatezi You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Wouldn't it be something if I were the one they picked. It's a fluke I'm a contender...I only worked there for a month. But then it's not so easy to find people who openly talk about the fact they have hep c. Gotta run....have a good...night.... Liefs Tatezi Re: Re: Tatezi You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 In a message dated 2/26/2004 8:07:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a > spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then > my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this > happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the > nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life > style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be > talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the > Pegasys treatment issue too. > > Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith > refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great > healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings > are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different > culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and > the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have > reached acceptance. > Tatezi, If they will actually let you speak with your own voice that would be WONDERFUL!!!!!! If your ability to speak is anything like your ability to convey your thoughts via this medium (computer), you will be doing a great service, both to the firm, us, and the world. Barring that plan, if you feel up to it, you might consider writing a book. Over the years, you have given excellent advice, both in natural medicine and spritual wisdom. I know I would never have reached acceptance without prayer. However, I am still willing to fight a legal battle to keep what happened to me from happening to anyone else. It's one thing to agree to a situation, it's quite another to have this disease through no fault of your own. Had I used intravenous drugs, or needed a blood tranfusion, acceptance would have been much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2004 Report Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hi Tatezi, Willem I'm way behind on emails as you can see.....Tats I just know you'll get that job....you're on a roll, I should take you to Vegas lol. Willem, you are the sweetest person (I know you don't want that title) but in my books, you're very special....and I have high expectations *brain fog musta hit a good place* LOL. Love you both Huggggs Carol ps. Anne, so great to hear from you too....and I believe that we all need a higher power in our life and that prayers are our source of strength Re: Re: Tatezi You know Anne, I am being considered by the PR firm for Pegasys as a spokesperson for Hep C. I worked there for the month between my temp job and then my temp job getting the money to offer me a full time job. And if this happens, one of the things I hope to be able to do is make the public understand the nuances of living with hep c...the fatigue, the dietary issues, the life style changes that must be made. I am really hoping that it won't just be talking about Pegasys, but a true HCV awareness program that incorporates the Pegasys treatment issue too. Talking to God, the Great Spirit, Krishna, Buddha...whatever name your faith refers to the Universal Being because all gods are the same god...is a great healer in itself. Too many people who don't realize that all supreme beings are the same supreme being only with a different name for a different culture, think tend to judge you by the name you use. Without the Great Spirit and the teachings of animals and nature I often wonder if I ever would have reached acceptance. Tatezi It didn't take me long to reach acceptance, it just took me, and is still taking me a long time to learn and or relearn my own limitations. The seesaw effect is the most irritating. I am also guilty of overdoing on good days, which probably makes bad days worse. And as we've all mentioned in the past, it takes a lot of patience to keep explaining how you feel when you would prefer not to speak about it much in the first place. Prayer has been a great sustainer for me. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Anne... I don't know what this will entail if I am chosen...but I do know that it's pretty hard to keep me from speaking my mind. Shucks, that has gotten me in trouble my whole life...even here with the group. <g> But I've been honest and open with the various surveys they have sent me in their decision making process...so they know I do speak my mind. I'm not sure that's what they want though...they might just want a puppet who will say what they want them to say. Writting a book...it's funny you should mention that. My friends have been hounding me to write a short story about my experiences at that awful screw and bolt place I worked at last year. And people have often mentioned that I should write about my life in the 60s. But I seriously doubt I could produce anything sellable....I've not experienced any thing that thousands of other people experienced...and I have no knowledge of how to write a story. Thank you for the giveaway of your kind words...it warmed my spirit. Blessings Tatezi If they will actually let you speak with your own voice...Barring that plan, if you feel up to it, you might consider writing a book. ... I know I would never have reached acceptance without prayer. However, I am still willing to fight a legal battle to keep what happened to me from happening to anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 In a message dated 2/28/2004 12:23:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > I don't know what this will entail if I am chosen...but I do know that it's > pretty hard to keep me from speaking my mind. Shucks, that has gotten me in > trouble my whole life...even here with the group. <g> But I've been honest > and open with the various surveys they have sent me in their decision making > process...so they know I do speak my mind. I'm not sure that's what they want > though...they might just want a puppet who will say what they want them to > say. > > Writting a book...it's funny you should mention that. My friends have been > hounding me to write a short story about my experiences at that awful screw > and bolt place I worked at last year. And people have often mentioned that I > should write about my life in the 60s. But I seriously doubt I could produce > anything sellable....I've not experienced any thing that thousands of other > people experienced...and I have no knowledge of how to write a story. > > Thank you for the giveaway of your kind words...it warmed my spirit. > I'm glad. Spirit warming is very important in this world. Don't sell yourself short in terms of writing. Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 In a message dated 2/28/2004 12:23:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > I don't know what this will entail if I am chosen...but I do know that it's > pretty hard to keep me from speaking my mind. Shucks, that has gotten me in > trouble my whole life...even here with the group. <g> But I've been honest > and open with the various surveys they have sent me in their decision making > process...so they know I do speak my mind. I'm not sure that's what they want > though...they might just want a puppet who will say what they want them to > say. > > Writting a book...it's funny you should mention that. My friends have been > hounding me to write a short story about my experiences at that awful screw > and bolt place I worked at last year. And people have often mentioned that I > should write about my life in the 60s. But I seriously doubt I could produce > anything sellable....I've not experienced any thing that thousands of other > people experienced...and I have no knowledge of how to write a story. > > Thank you for the giveaway of your kind words...it warmed my spirit. > I'm glad. Spirit warming is very important in this world. Don't sell yourself short in terms of writing. Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. Spirit warming is very important in this world....Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. Spirit warming is very important in this world....Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. Spirit warming is very important in this world....Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. Spirit warming is very important in this world....Just write the way you write in this forum and see what happens. Besides its another soul cleanser. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/2004 3:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but > when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe > I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but > first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those > unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax > breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in > the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. > Just remember to thank God for your blessings. The writing will come as you need it. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/2004 3:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but > when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe > I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but > first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those > unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax > breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in > the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. > Just remember to thank God for your blessings. The writing will come as you need it. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/2004 3:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but > when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe > I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but > first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those > unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax > breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in > the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. > Just remember to thank God for your blessings. The writing will come as you need it. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/2004 3:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tatezi@... writes: > It's strange, but when life isn't going my way, I do keep a journal...but > when life is going well for me, I don't seem to have the time to write. Maybe > I'll think about picking up a class in writing at the community college...but > first I have to pay the government off for the taxes on all those > unemployment checks I received. Just baffles me that corporations get all those tax > breaks and then they tax unemployment...the unemployed are the last people in > the world who can afford to have their piddly checks taxed. > Just remember to thank God for your blessings. The writing will come as you need it. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Sure, I'll send you a reminder....you missed and outstanding race. Re: Tatezi Tatezi, can you email me the day before the Belmont....they don't advertise the racing in Canada like they do down south. Glad Smarty won....I did see the first race..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Sure, I'll send you a reminder....you missed and outstanding race. Re: Tatezi Tatezi, can you email me the day before the Belmont....they don't advertise the racing in Canada like they do down south. Glad Smarty won....I did see the first race..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Congratulations on finishing treatment. Hopefully the next 6 months will be very " negative " for you. Yes, Willem is thoughtful and funny too. Pam >From: " Tatezi " <tatezi@...> >Reply-Hepatitis C ><Hepatitis C > >Subject: Re: Tatezi >Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 19:13:43 -0500 > >How nice to see this note, Willem. You are always so thoughtful and are >always remembering who is where in treatment. This note meant a lot to >me....thank you my dear friend. > >Liefs >Tatezi > Tatezi > > >HI.Tatezi finished her treatment.WHISH HER LUCK ALL OF YOU THSAT.S WHY >WE.RE HERE FOR>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Willem > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Thanks, Pam....I look forward to hearing that magickal word, negative also. Willem is a special friend...I'm so glad our paths crossed in this group. Tatezi Tatezi > > >HI.Tatezi finished her treatment.WHISH HER LUCK ALL OF YOU THSAT.S WHY >WE.RE HERE FOR>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Willem > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Thanks, Carol. It's been a long battle and I hope very much that I can sustain my response. But if not, then I wouldn't hesitate to do treatment again...Willem will always be my inspiration. He did three rounds of treatment and is a sustained responder after the last round. Pumping poisen into your body on a regular basis has to cause ill effects and I've not seen any long term studies on the results of treatment. Willem still can't sleep (maybe it's that studmuffin that he's in love with <g>), but I've not found any effects that have been unbearable. I think I'm going to ask the doctor at county to do a biopsy at my 6 month appointment...haven't had one since '98 and it will be interesting to see if it's changed. Tatezi Hi Tatezi....we're all praying for a SVR for you.....I know you've cleared that, I just feel it. Huggggs Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 HI.Thanks Tat for being so nice with me.I feel a hell of a lot better after treatment and not only because I.am madly in love,I feel like I.am twenty again.The faint feeling which I always had around the liver area has gone,sometimes I wonder if I hve a liver at all.My energy has gone up a 100 %.Depressiondips also disappeared.I have start working again almost fulltime,not because I need the money (not really) but I like to work,what started as a joke,helping a friend doing some renovation in his house has become a fulltime occupation because people liked what I did and I move from one job to the next,paid this time.Yes,I still can.t sleep for seven or six hours straight.If that.s the price I hve to pay for feeling somuch better,so be it.Tat you know that you.re going to be a sustained responder(you already are) and you.re going also feel a lot better but it takes I think a year or so to experience the full result of treatment.(In my case anyway)I.am not so clever as some on the group who know soomuch about drugs,supplements etc.and I rarely comment on it.I just give the group the stupid unscientific things of how I feel ,a joke once in a while and try to give the impression that we should not make live to complicated,love and support each other.Willem. Re: tatezi Thanks, Carol. It's been a long battle and I hope very much that I can sustain my response. But if not, then I wouldn't hesitate to do treatment again...Willem will always be my inspiration. He did three rounds of treatment and is a sustained responder after the last round. Pumping poisen into your body on a regular basis has to cause ill effects and I've not seen any long term studies on the results of treatment. Willem still can't sleep (maybe it's that studmuffin that he's in love with <g>), but I've not found any effects that have been unbearable. I think I'm going to ask the doctor at county to do a biopsy at my 6 month appointment...haven't had one since '98 and it will be interesting to see if it's changed. Tatezi Hi Tatezi....we're all praying for a SVR for you.....I know you've cleared that, I just feel it. Huggggs Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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