Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Willem Are you just joking about erratic behaviour? Or do you actually do erratic things? Just curious. You don't have to answer this if it makes you uncomfortable....I know it's a rather personal question....but I'm a nosey bitch LOL. My friend from Holland phoned me yesterday and we yakked for an hour....thanks for answering her email, that's real sweet of you. ;-) Carol Re: post treatment blues In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, alleypat@... writes: > www.hepatitisneighborhood.com I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need the whole word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it is. Thank you, Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 HI.No I.am not erratic.I.am just trying to describe my feelings after TX and waiting for the nxt PCR which is crucial.No,the problem is,if it.s a problem,that I hve too much energy and don.t know how to channel it in a proper way.After almost seven years of being constantly on treatment and trials for the first time I.am " clean " ,apart from MSM.My personality has changed and I blame it on the TX.By erratic I ment(I had to look it up in a dictionary and now I know that it has a bad connotation).that I want to do many things at the same time,I thought that.s what they call erratic.It.s also difficult for me to express myself in English.I.am a pratical person who likes to hve things done and usually I.am good at gettings things done,don.t like to give up.I never accepted my illness,drove my Doc. crazy and threatened the national insurance which a court-case when they made trouble paying for the third time TX which the argument that it was a waste of money since I was a non-responder.My illness became a way of life so to speak.I.am like a non now who misses Jesus.There.s a danger in this and I see this also in the group this pre-occupation.No I don.t need a shrink because they can.t play the post treatment blues.To think of it, " post treatment blues " " what a great song it would make.Sorry for the long posting but there.s always the delete button.Willem. Re: post treatment blues In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, alleypat@... writes: > www.hepatitisneighborhood.com I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need the whole word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it is. Thank you, Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 HI.Call a plumber,PUT YOURSELF TOGETHER.Willem. Re: post treatment blues In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, alleypat@... writes: > www.hepatitisneighborhood.com I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need the whole word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it is. Thank you, Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Ohhhhhh I understand now Willem. And I know what you mean....when I tried the standard combo after a few shots of it I was so erratic that I felt like I shot up speed. Severe anxiety....fidgety, couldn't sit still, couldn't think, couldn't play a game on the computer....I didn't know what to do....all I knew is that I would die to get rid of the speedy feeling. When I found myself in the bathroom holding a razor blade...let's just say I stopped treatment right then and there. I'm usually a very calm tranquil person. My heart rate was so fast I couldn't count it...and to this day my heart beats too fast. I'm hoping the peg treatment won't have such severe side effects and I will have to get on some serious sedatives for the next go around. Now with you having to wait for the results I sure do understand how anxious you are....and you can't do anything about it but wait. I will be praying for good results, I know you have to have beat it this time around....after so many years on interferon, my gawd....I'd be crazy...errrr, crazier. Hang in for the good news buddy, for I'm sure it will be good news. Hugggs Carol Re: post treatment blues In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!, alleypat@... writes: > www.hepatitisneighborhood.com I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need the whole word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it is. Thank you, Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 HI Meghan, got my results today...basically still fine..150. Slightly up from the last one which was 90, but that's pretty unbelieveable considering I was over 5 million when I went on treatment. Guess this virus is a slooooooooooow grower!( Thank God!) As far as the pain thing goes, I had alot of pain b/4 too..but picked up afew more joints with treatment. I have been living with chronic pain for so long now that I think I don't pay too much attention to it anymore unless something new comes up or something worsens. I thank God I'm not living with the nausea and debilitating fatigue of treatment. That, I couldn't stand. I guess you have to think of it this way; treatment helped your liver and by doing that, it gave us a new lease. Hang in there. Don't despair. luv , gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 HI Meghan, got my results today...basically still fine..150. Slightly up from the last one which was 90, but that's pretty unbelieveable considering I was over 5 million when I went on treatment. Guess this virus is a slooooooooooow grower!( Thank God!) As far as the pain thing goes, I had alot of pain b/4 too..but picked up afew more joints with treatment. I have been living with chronic pain for so long now that I think I don't pay too much attention to it anymore unless something new comes up or something worsens. I thank God I'm not living with the nausea and debilitating fatigue of treatment. That, I couldn't stand. I guess you have to think of it this way; treatment helped your liver and by doing that, it gave us a new lease. Hang in there. Don't despair. luv , gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 HI Meghan, got my results today...basically still fine..150. Slightly up from the last one which was 90, but that's pretty unbelieveable considering I was over 5 million when I went on treatment. Guess this virus is a slooooooooooow grower!( Thank God!) As far as the pain thing goes, I had alot of pain b/4 too..but picked up afew more joints with treatment. I have been living with chronic pain for so long now that I think I don't pay too much attention to it anymore unless something new comes up or something worsens. I thank God I'm not living with the nausea and debilitating fatigue of treatment. That, I couldn't stand. I guess you have to think of it this way; treatment helped your liver and by doing that, it gave us a new lease. Hang in there. Don't despair. luv , gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 HI Meghan, got my results today...basically still fine..150. Slightly up from the last one which was 90, but that's pretty unbelieveable considering I was over 5 million when I went on treatment. Guess this virus is a slooooooooooow grower!( Thank God!) As far as the pain thing goes, I had alot of pain b/4 too..but picked up afew more joints with treatment. I have been living with chronic pain for so long now that I think I don't pay too much attention to it anymore unless something new comes up or something worsens. I thank God I'm not living with the nausea and debilitating fatigue of treatment. That, I couldn't stand. I guess you have to think of it this way; treatment helped your liver and by doing that, it gave us a new lease. Hang in there. Don't despair. luv , gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Dear Meghan, guess we have alot more in common. We also lost our oldest son in August 1995. My husband has just had his book published (Oct.) detailing 's too brief life, illness and death. HE was 19 yrs. old. I was diagnosed the following June. I don't think I have to put down any words here...because there are none to describe watching your child die. My heart is with you. I also am praying a med change will help your headaches. Much love, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Dear Meghan, guess we have alot more in common. We also lost our oldest son in August 1995. My husband has just had his book published (Oct.) detailing 's too brief life, illness and death. HE was 19 yrs. old. I was diagnosed the following June. I don't think I have to put down any words here...because there are none to describe watching your child die. My heart is with you. I also am praying a med change will help your headaches. Much love, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Hey Gail, wow!!! 6 grams???? Think I'd be crawling on the floor!!! Your paper sounds great. Will be interested to read it. Yes, I'm a memeber of Hep-Central...funny how u get to kow folks from sites. Ya know, I totally agree with you regarding our pursuit of apin-free life. I never worry too much anymore about anything...except, of course, my kids...but that goes without saying. I look at some of my exteneded family members who have defiitely 'made it' financially and I see alot of sadness and drama. They have dedicated their lives to the dollar and forsaken all happiness. There is so much more..and all the $$$$$$ in the world can't give you peace. ..and for me that's a most important thing. luv, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Hey Gail, wow!!! 6 grams???? Think I'd be crawling on the floor!!! Your paper sounds great. Will be interested to read it. Yes, I'm a memeber of Hep-Central...funny how u get to kow folks from sites. Ya know, I totally agree with you regarding our pursuit of apin-free life. I never worry too much anymore about anything...except, of course, my kids...but that goes without saying. I look at some of my exteneded family members who have defiitely 'made it' financially and I see alot of sadness and drama. They have dedicated their lives to the dollar and forsaken all happiness. There is so much more..and all the $$$$$$ in the world can't give you peace. ..and for me that's a most important thing. luv, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Meghan, the sides of neurontin were similar to what you're experiencing..also dizziness and nausea. I also was taking 1200 mgs. I had to increase slowly and never quite got over the sides. They did diminish with time, though. Hopefully, it will help. gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Meghan, the sides of neurontin were similar to what you're experiencing..also dizziness and nausea. I also was taking 1200 mgs. I had to increase slowly and never quite got over the sides. They did diminish with time, though. Hopefully, it will help. gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Dear Gee, My son died on November 20, 1995. It was suicide. Iwas diagnosed three years later and my husband went through a battle with rectal cancer the following year. He is fine now. Thank God. I would like very much to read your husband's book. Tell me the name, and I will buy it. I took the neurontin last night and again today at noon. It seems to be helping, aside from a brain foggy feeling, but it is better than severe pain. It is more of a feeling of pressure instead of pain. Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Dear Gee, My son died on November 20, 1995. It was suicide. Iwas diagnosed three years later and my husband went through a battle with rectal cancer the following year. He is fine now. Thank God. I would like very much to read your husband's book. Tell me the name, and I will buy it. I took the neurontin last night and again today at noon. It seems to be helping, aside from a brain foggy feeling, but it is better than severe pain. It is more of a feeling of pressure instead of pain. Meghan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Oh Meghan, I am just so so sorry. Our son, , (my stepson) died after 2 failed liver transplants and 11 other surgeries. His liver disease stemmed from sclerosing cholangitis. The name of the book is, " The Book of , A Story of Youth, Illness, and Medicine " by Rowe. You can find it on Amazon.com and read some reviews etc. Also if you type in 's name ( Harlan-Rowe) on an internet search, it will bring up some papers has written about . The book is also on & Noble's website. If you'd ever like to chat on eon one about your son, you can email me at Mzgee1@.... Well, it is time for me to go upstairs and get to bed. School starts back tomorrow. Still have a daughter in highschool and a son in his 1st yr of college. He doesn't go back til the 22nd. The weather folks are saying icy rain for tonite..so the kids might catch a delay in the morning. Not looking forward to the 6:30 am routine! God bless, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Oh Meghan, I am just so so sorry. Our son, , (my stepson) died after 2 failed liver transplants and 11 other surgeries. His liver disease stemmed from sclerosing cholangitis. The name of the book is, " The Book of , A Story of Youth, Illness, and Medicine " by Rowe. You can find it on Amazon.com and read some reviews etc. Also if you type in 's name ( Harlan-Rowe) on an internet search, it will bring up some papers has written about . The book is also on & Noble's website. If you'd ever like to chat on eon one about your son, you can email me at Mzgee1@.... Well, it is time for me to go upstairs and get to bed. School starts back tomorrow. Still have a daughter in highschool and a son in his 1st yr of college. He doesn't go back til the 22nd. The weather folks are saying icy rain for tonite..so the kids might catch a delay in the morning. Not looking forward to the 6:30 am routine! God bless, gee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 HI.Try,half an hour before you go to sleep a luke warm solid glass of Portugeese Port-wine and a good old fashion joint.You.ll sleep like a log.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 HI.Try,half an hour before you go to sleep a luke warm solid glass of Portugeese Port-wine and a good old fashion joint.You.ll sleep like a log.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Ahhhh-Holland, land of legal marijuana! It's still illegal here in victorian US. Perhaps another generation of politicians before it is legalized in this country. gail From: " willem landstra " <rmland@...> Reply-Hepatitis C Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:44:13 +0100 <Hepatitis C > Subject: Re: post treatment blues HI.Try,half an hour before you go to sleep a luke warm solid glass of Portugeese Port-wine and a good old fashion joint.You.ll sleep like a log.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 Ahhhh-Holland, land of legal marijuana! It's still illegal here in victorian US. Perhaps another generation of politicians before it is legalized in this country. gail From: " willem landstra " <rmland@...> Reply-Hepatitis C Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:44:13 +0100 <Hepatitis C > Subject: Re: post treatment blues HI.Try,half an hour before you go to sleep a luke warm solid glass of Portugeese Port-wine and a good old fashion joint.You.ll sleep like a log.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 HI.It.s also illegal in Holland.But instead of forcing the law the government a long time ago decided to regulate it,allowing people to smoke it.You.re allowed to hve 5 grams of personal use.In the coffeeshop,government licensed, you can buy a max. of 5 gram. In Holland at least it.s resulting that hard-drugs addiction is going down fast( most people here got their Hep C from dirthy or sharing needless,some decade.s ago).From your Doc. you also can get a prescription to buy pot,medicinal,in the pharmacy.People with MS and cancer use it to relieve their pain.I.am not advocating the use of pot but when I read the mailings when people use all kinds of chemicals to relieve their pain,depression and sleeplesness I think that.s no good either,dependency etc.Mabye it.s a cultural difference between the US and Europe but we use far less drugs then in the US.If you want anti-depressants your Doc. will first try to find out the underlying course and will send you to a councilor.Also very reluctant to prescribe anti-biotics.All the people I know who hve HepC. are having a hard time to get anti-depressants from their Doc.A friend of mine had to throw his computer through the window before they put him on Prozac,he bought a dog and called him Heppy.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 HI.It.s also illegal in Holland.But instead of forcing the law the government a long time ago decided to regulate it,allowing people to smoke it.You.re allowed to hve 5 grams of personal use.In the coffeeshop,government licensed, you can buy a max. of 5 gram. In Holland at least it.s resulting that hard-drugs addiction is going down fast( most people here got their Hep C from dirthy or sharing needless,some decade.s ago).From your Doc. you also can get a prescription to buy pot,medicinal,in the pharmacy.People with MS and cancer use it to relieve their pain.I.am not advocating the use of pot but when I read the mailings when people use all kinds of chemicals to relieve their pain,depression and sleeplesness I think that.s no good either,dependency etc.Mabye it.s a cultural difference between the US and Europe but we use far less drugs then in the US.If you want anti-depressants your Doc. will first try to find out the underlying course and will send you to a councilor.Also very reluctant to prescribe anti-biotics.All the people I know who hve HepC. are having a hard time to get anti-depressants from their Doc.A friend of mine had to throw his computer through the window before they put him on Prozac,he bought a dog and called him Heppy.Willem. Re: post treatment blues From: Sita@... Gail, What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. - Yes, Neurontin does knock you out! There is a 100mg dose-that is what my doctor started me off on-100mg two times, then three times daily, then I graduated to 300mg doses. The early side effects were dizziness, blurry vision (as if I don't already have that!), sleepiness, and felt like I had to pee all the time?!?! Those I got over after a couple of weeks. The sides that made me stop (plus the fact that I was taking 800mg three times daily and starting to have breakthrough pain-which was a sign that I needed to up the dose again) were terrible dry eye/mouth, weight gain, hair loss, and then the more 'rare' ones of inability to reach orgasim?!?!, and bladder/bowel problems-not incontinence-the opposite-it seems the electrical impulse to the muscles to evacuate were being blocked by the neurontin?!?! But, some people feel that Neurontin is a blessing-you can only stick it out for a while and see how you yourself will react to it. As for the cryo-it was not caused by treatment-it actually was the symptom that caused me to see a doc to find out what was wrong with me and that is how I found out I have HCV. I did two rounds of treatment, but am a relapser. The only permanent problem from treatment is the dry eye-I have gotten it to a tolerable level. But treatment does rev up the immune system-so if a person has any latent immune problems or low level ones lurking in the background, they will most definitely be aggravated by treatment-maybe die down again after treatment, maybe not. Many docs don't know that yet-they only know what they are told by the drug company reps that visits/harrasses them during the day. Keep your head up-you will improve. gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 that is great for people who like pot. I don't so. I will stick to the conventional drugs thank you! Pot is very easily obtained in the USA as well. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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