RE: Pigeons

[Guest guest]

I think they make a sound that's more of a screech ...... not like the " hoo

hoo hoo " of a great horned or barred owl. And thoroughbreds? I grew up

with horses, and finally -- (my love for them was so intense), I went to KY

when I was 17 and worked as an exercise rider. Up at 3 a.m., off by 7 a.m.

lol. Hard hard work. Worked at The Kentucky Horse Park and Keenland, too.

I miss " My Old Kentucky Home " . Smarty is a good-looking horse, and

I hope we have a triple crown winner this year. It's about time!

In a message dated 5/6/2004 6:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for

> it's accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary

> sessions. I didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

>

[Guest guest]

I think they make a sound that's more of a screech ...... not like the " hoo

hoo hoo " of a great horned or barred owl. And thoroughbreds? I grew up

with horses, and finally -- (my love for them was so intense), I went to KY

when I was 17 and worked as an exercise rider. Up at 3 a.m., off by 7 a.m.

lol. Hard hard work. Worked at The Kentucky Horse Park and Keenland, too.

I miss " My Old Kentucky Home " . Smarty is a good-looking horse, and

I hope we have a triple crown winner this year. It's about time!

In a message dated 5/6/2004 6:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for

> it's accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary

> sessions. I didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

>

[Guest guest]

I think they make a sound that's more of a screech ...... not like the " hoo

hoo hoo " of a great horned or barred owl. And thoroughbreds? I grew up

with horses, and finally -- (my love for them was so intense), I went to KY

when I was 17 and worked as an exercise rider. Up at 3 a.m., off by 7 a.m.

lol. Hard hard work. Worked at The Kentucky Horse Park and Keenland, too.

I miss " My Old Kentucky Home " . Smarty is a good-looking horse, and

I hope we have a triple crown winner this year. It's about time!

In a message dated 5/6/2004 6:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for

> it's accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary

> sessions. I didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 2:49:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

Anyway, speaking of barns, did you know that a family of barn owls will eat

approximate 1500 mice in a week. Thought that was an interesting

tidbit...learned it when I attended some seminars with a wild bird sanctuary.

And when they

fly they are completely silent...they have little hairs like eyelashes on the

edges of their wings to break the wind so there is no sound when they fly.

They flew them in the room at this seminar and you couldn't hear a thing but

felt

the air move as they flew over your head.

Just one of those probably worthless tidbits of info we sometimes store in

our heads <g>

Another tidbit on the same order. s eat 10 times their weight in

mosquitoes daily. Good enough reason to invest in a martin house. Bats do the

same thing, however, I prefer the martins :-). Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 2:49:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

Anyway, speaking of barns, did you know that a family of barn owls will eat

approximate 1500 mice in a week. Thought that was an interesting

tidbit...learned it when I attended some seminars with a wild bird sanctuary.

And when they

fly they are completely silent...they have little hairs like eyelashes on the

edges of their wings to break the wind so there is no sound when they fly.

They flew them in the room at this seminar and you couldn't hear a thing but

felt

the air move as they flew over your head.

Just one of those probably worthless tidbits of info we sometimes store in

our heads <g>

Another tidbit on the same order. s eat 10 times their weight in

mosquitoes daily. Good enough reason to invest in a martin house. Bats do the

same thing, however, I prefer the martins :-). Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:53:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jtwagers7@... writes:

LOL -- Good way to begin my day (talking about wildlife). It's refreshing to

get my mind off Hep C and its problems, so.... y'all excuse me if I get a bit

" enthusiastic " over this OT (off topic).

We all need a break from HCV sometimes. That's what keeps the endorphins

going. Laughter really is the best medicine.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:53:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jtwagers7@... writes:

LOL -- Good way to begin my day (talking about wildlife). It's refreshing to

get my mind off Hep C and its problems, so.... y'all excuse me if I get a bit

" enthusiastic " over this OT (off topic).

We all need a break from HCV sometimes. That's what keeps the endorphins

going. Laughter really is the best medicine.

[Guest guest]

It's nice that even though we are all fighting this dragon, that we can find

pleasure in our 4 legged, winged ones, etc. brothers and sisters.

And just because we are all here to help support one another through living with

HCV, doesn't mean that we can't talk about other things...just because we have

this dragon in common, our lives and the things that give us pleasure are a part

of our lives.

We just need to always remember to use a subject line so those who don't care to

participate in sharing the other side of our lives, know to hit the delete

key...and I try (sometimes I forget...imagine that <g>) to always delete as much

of the previous message as we can while leaving enough of the thread so we know

what we are talking about. I remember being on dial up...and the times I've been

on digest the challenge of going through long threads in one message.

And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for it's

accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary sessions. I

didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

Tatezi

Re: Pigeons

they are remarkable (and highly accurate). I don't know they're accuracy

rate, but I can bet it's almost 100% with what they're equipped with to hunt.

The Barn owl, though (dummy ) doesn't " hoot " . lol.

[Guest guest]

It's nice that even though we are all fighting this dragon, that we can find

pleasure in our 4 legged, winged ones, etc. brothers and sisters.

And just because we are all here to help support one another through living with

HCV, doesn't mean that we can't talk about other things...just because we have

this dragon in common, our lives and the things that give us pleasure are a part

of our lives.

We just need to always remember to use a subject line so those who don't care to

participate in sharing the other side of our lives, know to hit the delete

key...and I try (sometimes I forget...imagine that <g>) to always delete as much

of the previous message as we can while leaving enough of the thread so we know

what we are talking about. I remember being on dial up...and the times I've been

on digest the challenge of going through long threads in one message.

And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for it's

accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary sessions. I

didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

Tatezi

Re: Pigeons

they are remarkable (and highly accurate). I don't know they're accuracy

rate, but I can bet it's almost 100% with what they're equipped with to hunt.

The Barn owl, though (dummy ) doesn't " hoot " . lol.

[Guest guest]

It's nice that even though we are all fighting this dragon, that we can find

pleasure in our 4 legged, winged ones, etc. brothers and sisters.

And just because we are all here to help support one another through living with

HCV, doesn't mean that we can't talk about other things...just because we have

this dragon in common, our lives and the things that give us pleasure are a part

of our lives.

We just need to always remember to use a subject line so those who don't care to

participate in sharing the other side of our lives, know to hit the delete

key...and I try (sometimes I forget...imagine that <g>) to always delete as much

of the previous message as we can while leaving enough of the thread so we know

what we are talking about. I remember being on dial up...and the times I've been

on digest the challenge of going through long threads in one message.

And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for it's

accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary sessions. I

didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

Tatezi

Re: Pigeons

they are remarkable (and highly accurate). I don't know they're accuracy

rate, but I can bet it's almost 100% with what they're equipped with to hunt.

The Barn owl, though (dummy ) doesn't " hoot " . lol.

[Guest guest]

It's nice that even though we are all fighting this dragon, that we can find

pleasure in our 4 legged, winged ones, etc. brothers and sisters.

And just because we are all here to help support one another through living with

HCV, doesn't mean that we can't talk about other things...just because we have

this dragon in common, our lives and the things that give us pleasure are a part

of our lives.

We just need to always remember to use a subject line so those who don't care to

participate in sharing the other side of our lives, know to hit the delete

key...and I try (sometimes I forget...imagine that <g>) to always delete as much

of the previous message as we can while leaving enough of the thread so we know

what we are talking about. I remember being on dial up...and the times I've been

on digest the challenge of going through long threads in one message.

And barn owls eyes can rotate almost a full 360 degrees which accounts for it's

accuracy. I learned some wonderful things at the wild bird sanctuary sessions. I

didn't know that the barn own didn't hoot though.

Tatezi

Re: Pigeons

they are remarkable (and highly accurate). I don't know they're accuracy

rate, but I can bet it's almost 100% with what they're equipped with to hunt.

The Barn owl, though (dummy ) doesn't " hoot " . lol.

[Guest guest]

My friends who live a few blocks from me in a real neighborhood...grass, trees,

etc. had bats flying around the street light in the alley one year. So they went

out and bought a bat house...10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their

purple martin house...no one moved in. But they get an incredible variety of

birds and critters. And in the city we have a fair amount of kestrels and

peregrines....they introduced them to the city for pigeon control. Someone

didn't do their research too well because kestrels (sparrow hawks) are too small

for pigeons although you can often see them snatching up sparrows. But the

peregrines have made it...and they do feed on the pigeons.

Just one of those probably worthless tidbits of info we sometimes store in our

heads <g>Another tidbit on the same order. s eat 10 times their weight in

mosquitoes daily. Good enough reason to invest in a martin house. Bats do

the same thing, however, I prefer the martins :-). Anne

[Guest guest]

My friends who live a few blocks from me in a real neighborhood...grass, trees,

etc. had bats flying around the street light in the alley one year. So they went

out and bought a bat house...10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their

purple martin house...no one moved in. But they get an incredible variety of

birds and critters. And in the city we have a fair amount of kestrels and

peregrines....they introduced them to the city for pigeon control. Someone

didn't do their research too well because kestrels (sparrow hawks) are too small

for pigeons although you can often see them snatching up sparrows. But the

peregrines have made it...and they do feed on the pigeons.

Just one of those probably worthless tidbits of info we sometimes store in our

heads <g>Another tidbit on the same order. s eat 10 times their weight in

mosquitoes daily. Good enough reason to invest in a martin house. Bats do

the same thing, however, I prefer the martins :-). Anne

[Guest guest]

..

I dont consider it off topic.. LOL... as what ever stimulates ya... stress is

the evil one.. we all have to fight against.. and what the heck.. love

animals and plants.. altho.. I DO not have a green thumb.. LOL .. my ex once

gave

away a poinsetta i won.. somehow.. cuz he knew i would kill it..

night all,.

DAwn

[Guest guest]

..

I dont consider it off topic.. LOL... as what ever stimulates ya... stress is

the evil one.. we all have to fight against.. and what the heck.. love

animals and plants.. altho.. I DO not have a green thumb.. LOL .. my ex once

gave

away a poinsetta i won.. somehow.. cuz he knew i would kill it..

night all,.

DAwn

[Guest guest]

..

I dont consider it off topic.. LOL... as what ever stimulates ya... stress is

the evil one.. we all have to fight against.. and what the heck.. love

animals and plants.. altho.. I DO not have a green thumb.. LOL .. my ex once

gave

away a poinsetta i won.. somehow.. cuz he knew i would kill it..

night all,.

DAwn

[Guest guest]

..

I dont consider it off topic.. LOL... as what ever stimulates ya... stress is

the evil one.. we all have to fight against.. and what the heck.. love

animals and plants.. altho.. I DO not have a green thumb.. LOL .. my ex once

gave

away a poinsetta i won.. somehow.. cuz he knew i would kill it..

night all,.

DAwn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their purple martin house...no

one moved in.

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their purple martin house...no

one moved in.

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their purple martin house...no

one moved in.

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:38:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

tatezi@... writes:

10 years later and no one moved in. Same with their purple martin house...no

one moved in.

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

They've been waiting for years...and they've given up hope...

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

They've been waiting for years...and they've given up hope...

Tell them not to give up hope. It took a few years for the birds to find our

bird house.

[Guest guest]

I didn't know piegeons also mated for life. They turn up in the darndest

places. Truly survivors. I went under a narrow underpass in Watervile ME

and one flew into my side window. Bad timing for him. I turned around to

go back & see if he was alright. Since he was gone I guess he was, but it

was clear that under the bridge was a whole pigeon colony, including a

graveyard. Just driving by you had no idea they were there.

Dawn, I've suffered from depression most of my life. For about 10 years I

wasn't diagnosed. Just thought it was me being a schmuck. I wish I had

some good advice - I don't. I've tried different anti-depressants, gained

weight because of it and still have trouble understanding exactly what part

is depression and what isn't. Talking does help. I guess all I can say is

we are listening and understand.

Pam in Maine

>From: " Tatezi " <tatezi@...>

>Reply-Hepatitis C

><Hepatitis C >

>Subject: Re: Pigeons

>Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:09:55 -0500

>

>Maybe cities are refuges for pigeons, but I sorta remember reading that it

>was the europeans who brought the rock dove (which is what a pigeon really

>is) to this country.

>

>I also remember in more recent times (but haven't heard of it recently

>through my animal protection organizations) that the Boy Scout organization

>would trap pigeons in city and every year would take them to PA (don't

>remember where in PA) and release them and have a pigeon shoot...and it was

>the kids who did the shooting.

>

>No one seems to care about the pigeons and it continues to baffle me. They

>were homing pigeons during the wars delivering messages to our side. And

>they can teach us much. They are survivors, they are excellent parents and

>mate for life, if you ever notice a bunch of pigeons sitting out on wires

>or edges of buildings they are always separated by enough space that they

>can turn around without invading their neighbor's space, etc.

>

>Oh well, humyns will not change...the general humyn species considers

>itself to be superior to all other creatures which is why we have so many

>extinct and endangered creatures.

> Tatezi,

> Your comment about not knowing that pigeons lived out of the cities made

>me think of Leonard Cohen's book " Beautiful Losers " which we were passing

>around in the '60s (along with viruses). One of the things I remember is

>several descriptions of huge flocks of pigeons, maybe passenger pigeons,

>which are extinct now. They lived in the forests of this beautiful country

>before the Europeans moved in and cut them down. Native Americans included

>them in a diet of wild game!

> Maybe the cities are the reservations for the pigeons.

>

> Pam in Maine

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't know piegeons also mated for life. They turn up in the darndest

places. Truly survivors. I went under a narrow underpass in Watervile ME

and one flew into my side window. Bad timing for him. I turned around to

go back & see if he was alright. Since he was gone I guess he was, but it

was clear that under the bridge was a whole pigeon colony, including a

graveyard. Just driving by you had no idea they were there.

Dawn, I've suffered from depression most of my life. For about 10 years I

wasn't diagnosed. Just thought it was me being a schmuck. I wish I had

some good advice - I don't. I've tried different anti-depressants, gained

weight because of it and still have trouble understanding exactly what part

is depression and what isn't. Talking does help. I guess all I can say is

we are listening and understand.

Pam in Maine

>From: " Tatezi " <tatezi@...>

>Reply-Hepatitis C

><Hepatitis C >

>Subject: Re: Pigeons

>Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 19:09:55 -0500

>

>Maybe cities are refuges for pigeons, but I sorta remember reading that it

>was the europeans who brought the rock dove (which is what a pigeon really

>is) to this country.

>

>I also remember in more recent times (but haven't heard of it recently

>through my animal protection organizations) that the Boy Scout organization

>would trap pigeons in city and every year would take them to PA (don't

>remember where in PA) and release them and have a pigeon shoot...and it was

>the kids who did the shooting.

>

>No one seems to care about the pigeons and it continues to baffle me. They

>were homing pigeons during the wars delivering messages to our side. And

>they can teach us much. They are survivors, they are excellent parents and

>mate for life, if you ever notice a bunch of pigeons sitting out on wires

>or edges of buildings they are always separated by enough space that they

>can turn around without invading their neighbor's space, etc.

>

>Oh well, humyns will not change...the general humyn species considers

>itself to be superior to all other creatures which is why we have so many

>extinct and endangered creatures.

> Tatezi,

> Your comment about not knowing that pigeons lived out of the cities made

>me think of Leonard Cohen's book " Beautiful Losers " which we were passing

>around in the '60s (along with viruses). One of the things I remember is

>several descriptions of huge flocks of pigeons, maybe passenger pigeons,

>which are extinct now. They lived in the forests of this beautiful country

>before the Europeans moved in and cut them down. Native Americans included

>them in a diet of wild game!

> Maybe the cities are the reservations for the pigeons.

>

> Pam in Maine

>

>

>

>