Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

[Guest guest]

Hi Tatezi. I don't know how to research it, either, but it does interest me

(always has). In trying to research it, I found a recent article (from

April 2004) from the Charlotte Business Journal on our state (NC) " taking aim

at

nonprofit hospitals " .

http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2004/04/05/story3.html

Pitt County Memorial Hospital (the county hospital I have always been to),

and 29 other hospitals in eastern NC have merged with University Health Systems

of Eastern Carolina At the time PCMH merged (about 8 yrs ago), it was a

very controversial merger. The public sector was concerned (convinced) that

" privatizing " would result in denial of care to indigent people, and/or that the

ER would turn away indigent people. That has not been the case. They see

anyone who comes through the ER door, and they admit those who need admission

regardless of ability to pay (but I've never heard they see x number of

indigent patients, and they definitely attempt to collect). Compared to what

PCMH

was 8 years ago, it is now huge and keeps expanding by leaps and bounds. It's

top-notch, and I guess I should be very thankful, regardless of their

collection efforts, that I'm able to walk right in and be seen. I am thankful.

I

can't imagine being turned away from a hospital because of debt or inability to

pay. That has never happened to me. I've been turned away (when I had no

insurance) from primary care providers and other specialists, but I could always

go to the ER and be seen.

I don't know of the " nonprofit " hospitals in NC (or if there is such a

thing). I'm sure there is, but I could only find one (on-line). There seems

to

be plenty in SC. Beats me .

Have a great day, and congratulations on finishing treatment YA-HOOOO! I

know you are glad to be finished! Best, BEST wishes to you.

Jets

PS - Just for interest:

University Health Systems of Eastern NC

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=202

Pitt County Memorial Hospital

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=13

In a message dated 7/9/2004 10:49:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> You know, there is a federal law that any hospital that receives federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know what it was

> called and since my dad left this earthwalk in '90, I can't ask him. And for

> sure I don't know how to research it.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tatezi. I don't know how to research it, either, but it does interest me

(always has). In trying to research it, I found a recent article (from

April 2004) from the Charlotte Business Journal on our state (NC) " taking aim

at

nonprofit hospitals " .

http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2004/04/05/story3.html

Pitt County Memorial Hospital (the county hospital I have always been to),

and 29 other hospitals in eastern NC have merged with University Health Systems

of Eastern Carolina At the time PCMH merged (about 8 yrs ago), it was a

very controversial merger. The public sector was concerned (convinced) that

" privatizing " would result in denial of care to indigent people, and/or that the

ER would turn away indigent people. That has not been the case. They see

anyone who comes through the ER door, and they admit those who need admission

regardless of ability to pay (but I've never heard they see x number of

indigent patients, and they definitely attempt to collect). Compared to what

PCMH

was 8 years ago, it is now huge and keeps expanding by leaps and bounds. It's

top-notch, and I guess I should be very thankful, regardless of their

collection efforts, that I'm able to walk right in and be seen. I am thankful.

I

can't imagine being turned away from a hospital because of debt or inability to

pay. That has never happened to me. I've been turned away (when I had no

insurance) from primary care providers and other specialists, but I could always

go to the ER and be seen.

I don't know of the " nonprofit " hospitals in NC (or if there is such a

thing). I'm sure there is, but I could only find one (on-line). There seems

to

be plenty in SC. Beats me .

Have a great day, and congratulations on finishing treatment YA-HOOOO! I

know you are glad to be finished! Best, BEST wishes to you.

Jets

PS - Just for interest:

University Health Systems of Eastern NC

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=202

Pitt County Memorial Hospital

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=13

In a message dated 7/9/2004 10:49:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> You know, there is a federal law that any hospital that receives federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know what it was

> called and since my dad left this earthwalk in '90, I can't ask him. And for

> sure I don't know how to research it.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tatezi. I don't know how to research it, either, but it does interest me

(always has). In trying to research it, I found a recent article (from

April 2004) from the Charlotte Business Journal on our state (NC) " taking aim

at

nonprofit hospitals " .

http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2004/04/05/story3.html

Pitt County Memorial Hospital (the county hospital I have always been to),

and 29 other hospitals in eastern NC have merged with University Health Systems

of Eastern Carolina At the time PCMH merged (about 8 yrs ago), it was a

very controversial merger. The public sector was concerned (convinced) that

" privatizing " would result in denial of care to indigent people, and/or that the

ER would turn away indigent people. That has not been the case. They see

anyone who comes through the ER door, and they admit those who need admission

regardless of ability to pay (but I've never heard they see x number of

indigent patients, and they definitely attempt to collect). Compared to what

PCMH

was 8 years ago, it is now huge and keeps expanding by leaps and bounds. It's

top-notch, and I guess I should be very thankful, regardless of their

collection efforts, that I'm able to walk right in and be seen. I am thankful.

I

can't imagine being turned away from a hospital because of debt or inability to

pay. That has never happened to me. I've been turned away (when I had no

insurance) from primary care providers and other specialists, but I could always

go to the ER and be seen.

I don't know of the " nonprofit " hospitals in NC (or if there is such a

thing). I'm sure there is, but I could only find one (on-line). There seems

to

be plenty in SC. Beats me .

Have a great day, and congratulations on finishing treatment YA-HOOOO! I

know you are glad to be finished! Best, BEST wishes to you.

Jets

PS - Just for interest:

University Health Systems of Eastern NC

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=202

Pitt County Memorial Hospital

http://www.uhseast.com/body.cfm?id=13

In a message dated 7/9/2004 10:49:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tatezi@... writes:

> You know, there is a federal law that any hospital that receives federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know what it was

> called and since my dad left this earthwalk in '90, I can't ask him. And for

> sure I don't know how to research it.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

In a message dated 7/10/2004 1:38:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

AVansi7465@... writes:

> Dear Jets,

> In part, I've been there. I can't undo what you went through and I can't

> undo what I went through or the mess others I know have gone through,

> but..........here's what we should have done. Declare those assets that are

> necessary to

> living, ie retirement, savings, home, etc. and declare bankrupcy. You can

> do

> that and not cash in any of those assets. SSD will still accept you if

> there's any chance at all that you can be cured of what " ails " you. If you

> are on

> treatment, you should have automatically gotten disability, at least for the

>

> duration and recovery period. Isn't it wonderful to know all this useful

> information after the fact? I flat gave my business away. So much for all

> those

> years. The only reason I lost my insurance was because the family practice

> physician, I saw at the time turned in a suspected diagnosis of HIV rather

> than

> HCV. Yea, I know, I should have sued her, except that she did have HIV, so,

> I

> let that one go.

> Life and all its little twists and turns.

> Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

In a message dated 7/10/2004 1:38:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

AVansi7465@... writes:

> Dear Jets,

> In part, I've been there. I can't undo what you went through and I can't

> undo what I went through or the mess others I know have gone through,

> but..........here's what we should have done. Declare those assets that are

> necessary to

> living, ie retirement, savings, home, etc. and declare bankrupcy. You can

> do

> that and not cash in any of those assets. SSD will still accept you if

> there's any chance at all that you can be cured of what " ails " you. If you

> are on

> treatment, you should have automatically gotten disability, at least for the

>

> duration and recovery period. Isn't it wonderful to know all this useful

> information after the fact? I flat gave my business away. So much for all

> those

> years. The only reason I lost my insurance was because the family practice

> physician, I saw at the time turned in a suspected diagnosis of HIV rather

> than

> HCV. Yea, I know, I should have sued her, except that she did have HIV, so,

> I

> let that one go.

> Life and all its little twists and turns.

> Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

In a message dated 7/10/2004 1:38:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

AVansi7465@... writes:

> Dear Jets,

> In part, I've been there. I can't undo what you went through and I can't

> undo what I went through or the mess others I know have gone through,

> but..........here's what we should have done. Declare those assets that are

> necessary to

> living, ie retirement, savings, home, etc. and declare bankrupcy. You can

> do

> that and not cash in any of those assets. SSD will still accept you if

> there's any chance at all that you can be cured of what " ails " you. If you

> are on

> treatment, you should have automatically gotten disability, at least for the

>

> duration and recovery period. Isn't it wonderful to know all this useful

> information after the fact? I flat gave my business away. So much for all

> those

> years. The only reason I lost my insurance was because the family practice

> physician, I saw at the time turned in a suspected diagnosis of HIV rather

> than

> HCV. Yea, I know, I should have sued her, except that she did have HIV, so,

> I

> let that one go.

> Life and all its little twists and turns.

> Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

In a message dated 7/10/2004 1:38:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

AVansi7465@... writes:

> Dear Jets,

> In part, I've been there. I can't undo what you went through and I can't

> undo what I went through or the mess others I know have gone through,

> but..........here's what we should have done. Declare those assets that are

> necessary to

> living, ie retirement, savings, home, etc. and declare bankrupcy. You can

> do

> that and not cash in any of those assets. SSD will still accept you if

> there's any chance at all that you can be cured of what " ails " you. If you

> are on

> treatment, you should have automatically gotten disability, at least for the

>

> duration and recovery period. Isn't it wonderful to know all this useful

> information after the fact? I flat gave my business away. So much for all

> those

> years. The only reason I lost my insurance was because the family practice

> physician, I saw at the time turned in a suspected diagnosis of HIV rather

> than

> HCV. Yea, I know, I should have sued her, except that she did have HIV, so,

> I

> let that one go.

> Life and all its little twists and turns.

> Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

any hospital that receives

> federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know

>

Just because a hospital accepts federal (or state) funding does not

mean they can't charge for those services. It does means they cannot

refuse service to anyone based on their ability to pay. They must see

a person who presents themselves for care even if that person does

not have the money to pay at that time. They can still bill a person

for services and HOPE they are able to collect!

C

[Guest guest]

any hospital that receives

> federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know

>

Just because a hospital accepts federal (or state) funding does not

mean they can't charge for those services. It does means they cannot

refuse service to anyone based on their ability to pay. They must see

a person who presents themselves for care even if that person does

not have the money to pay at that time. They can still bill a person

for services and HOPE they are able to collect!

C

[Guest guest]

any hospital that receives

> federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know

>

Just because a hospital accepts federal (or state) funding does not

mean they can't charge for those services. It does means they cannot

refuse service to anyone based on their ability to pay. They must see

a person who presents themselves for care even if that person does

not have the money to pay at that time. They can still bill a person

for services and HOPE they are able to collect!

C

[Guest guest]

any hospital that receives

> federal

> funds *must* accept x number of indigent patients. I used to know

>

Just because a hospital accepts federal (or state) funding does not

mean they can't charge for those services. It does means they cannot

refuse service to anyone based on their ability to pay. They must see

a person who presents themselves for care even if that person does

not have the money to pay at that time. They can still bill a person

for services and HOPE they are able to collect!

C

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/10/2004 4:34:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jetsliver@... writes:

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at

times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think

I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

Dear Jets,

The kicker on my injection was the fact that it included two air bubbles.

This of course going on while the phlebotomist was draining blood out of the

right arm.........good thing ......it meant the air bubbles did less damage to

my

heart, but there is nothing like dieing on a blood draw gurney to give you a

case of the heebie-geebies. Semi-dead is a very weird state to be in.

With that thought in mind, I handled things relatively well, I think. I

continued to work for another eight years. I just didn't expand my business. I

think the thing I feel saddest about is not handing my knowledge on. In the

field repair of this kind of equipment is a dieing art and one that (no brag

intended, I had excellent teachers) not many know well. IF I do get well, I

will

offer myself as a trainer, as long as there isn't a move involved.

Manufacturers can only do so much to rearrange optics and someone else can teach

the

electronics......my husband, perhaps.

Think positive. I've learned a lot about people and myself through all of

this. One of the most important things I've learned is how to be kinder to

myself. How's that for an off the wall lesson to learn? It's also taught me

who

my real friends are and it's taught me that if you feel it needs to be

done.............do it. The one thing I do know is that when other people kick

us in

the rear, God is the one who helps us to pick ourselves up. We just have to

listen.

Boy, I'm wordy tonight.

Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/10/2004 4:34:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jetsliver@... writes:

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at

times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think

I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

Dear Jets,

The kicker on my injection was the fact that it included two air bubbles.

This of course going on while the phlebotomist was draining blood out of the

right arm.........good thing ......it meant the air bubbles did less damage to

my

heart, but there is nothing like dieing on a blood draw gurney to give you a

case of the heebie-geebies. Semi-dead is a very weird state to be in.

With that thought in mind, I handled things relatively well, I think. I

continued to work for another eight years. I just didn't expand my business. I

think the thing I feel saddest about is not handing my knowledge on. In the

field repair of this kind of equipment is a dieing art and one that (no brag

intended, I had excellent teachers) not many know well. IF I do get well, I

will

offer myself as a trainer, as long as there isn't a move involved.

Manufacturers can only do so much to rearrange optics and someone else can teach

the

electronics......my husband, perhaps.

Think positive. I've learned a lot about people and myself through all of

this. One of the most important things I've learned is how to be kinder to

myself. How's that for an off the wall lesson to learn? It's also taught me

who

my real friends are and it's taught me that if you feel it needs to be

done.............do it. The one thing I do know is that when other people kick

us in

the rear, God is the one who helps us to pick ourselves up. We just have to

listen.

Boy, I'm wordy tonight.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne and Jets

You've both gave up so much material stuff to keep on going.....and I did

too....but hindsight is 20/20. Money down the drain. Anne, you said it best

" be kinder to yourself " . I don't even want to count the hours I spent beating

myself up over the whole situation. It's depressing to look back and it doesn't

do us any good....we learned a lesson from it....now onward we go, only by

letting it all go and being good to ourselves and forgiving ourselves and

knowing we did the best we could at the time.

Hugggggs

Carol

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

In a message dated 7/10/2004 4:34:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jetsliver@... writes:

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at

times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think

I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

Dear Jets,

The kicker on my injection was the fact that it included two air bubbles.

This of course going on while the phlebotomist was draining blood out of the

right arm.........good thing ......it meant the air bubbles did less damage to

my

heart, but there is nothing like dieing on a blood draw gurney to give you a

case of the heebie-geebies. Semi-dead is a very weird state to be in.

With that thought in mind, I handled things relatively well, I think. I

continued to work for another eight years. I just didn't expand my business.

I

think the thing I feel saddest about is not handing my knowledge on. In the

field repair of this kind of equipment is a dieing art and one that (no brag

intended, I had excellent teachers) not many know well. IF I do get well, I

will

offer myself as a trainer, as long as there isn't a move involved.

Manufacturers can only do so much to rearrange optics and someone else can

teach the

electronics......my husband, perhaps.

Think positive. I've learned a lot about people and myself through all of

this. One of the most important things I've learned is how to be kinder to

myself. How's that for an off the wall lesson to learn? It's also taught me

who

my real friends are and it's taught me that if you feel it needs to be

done.............do it. The one thing I do know is that when other people

kick us in

the rear, God is the one who helps us to pick ourselves up. We just have to

listen.

Boy, I'm wordy tonight.

Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne and Jets

You've both gave up so much material stuff to keep on going.....and I did

too....but hindsight is 20/20. Money down the drain. Anne, you said it best

" be kinder to yourself " . I don't even want to count the hours I spent beating

myself up over the whole situation. It's depressing to look back and it doesn't

do us any good....we learned a lesson from it....now onward we go, only by

letting it all go and being good to ourselves and forgiving ourselves and

knowing we did the best we could at the time.

Hugggggs

Carol

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

In a message dated 7/10/2004 4:34:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jetsliver@... writes:

Hi Anne. Isn't it just wonderful to learn all of " protect yourself facts "

after the fact. And you gave your business away. Arggg. Double arggg.

It all felt like a nightmare when it was going on (and very numbing at

times).

Yesterday, when recalling it and writing it down, I started crying (lol)

just remembering it all (and getting angry / sad again at something that

happened years ago that I can't change now). Oh -- those BIG speed bumps in

life - lol. When they told me I had HCV, it was just surreal. I think

I've

been in shock (still -- after a year), but it's getting better -- slowly but

surely . It IS getting better.

Jets

Dear Jets,

The kicker on my injection was the fact that it included two air bubbles.

This of course going on while the phlebotomist was draining blood out of the

right arm.........good thing ......it meant the air bubbles did less damage to

my

heart, but there is nothing like dieing on a blood draw gurney to give you a

case of the heebie-geebies. Semi-dead is a very weird state to be in.

With that thought in mind, I handled things relatively well, I think. I

continued to work for another eight years. I just didn't expand my business.

I

think the thing I feel saddest about is not handing my knowledge on. In the

field repair of this kind of equipment is a dieing art and one that (no brag

intended, I had excellent teachers) not many know well. IF I do get well, I

will

offer myself as a trainer, as long as there isn't a move involved.

Manufacturers can only do so much to rearrange optics and someone else can

teach the

electronics......my husband, perhaps.

Think positive. I've learned a lot about people and myself through all of

this. One of the most important things I've learned is how to be kinder to

myself. How's that for an off the wall lesson to learn? It's also taught me

who

my real friends are and it's taught me that if you feel it needs to be

done.............do it. The one thing I do know is that when other people

kick us in

the rear, God is the one who helps us to pick ourselves up. We just have to

listen.

Boy, I'm wordy tonight.

Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/11/2004 8:58:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

You've both gave up so much material stuff to keep on going.....and I did

too....but hindsight is 20/20. Money down the drain. Anne, you said it best

" be

kinder to yourself " . I don't even want to count the hours I spent beating

myself up over the whole situation. It's depressing to look back and it doesn't

do us any good....we learned a lesson from it....now onward we go, only by

letting it all go and being good to ourselves and forgiving ourselves and

knowing we did the best we could at the time.

I did that, too, Carol. I also asked myself if perhaps that was one of those

days that I shouldn't have gone to work. Had I done so, I'd be

well...........Oh well. I've realized that beating myself to death with

questions like

that does not change a single thing. The material part of it is irritating, but

the business was me........as weird as that sounds. Oh well, we all

discovered another me.........I think......maybe :-) Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne....I totally understand what you mean by the business being you.

Something you've put your heart and soul into....you probably felt like it

defined you. It's such a heartbreaking thing to have to just give it up. But

you know what? I really like the Anne you are now....and I'm betting a lot of

people on this forum feel the same way....and I'm hoping you love yourself cuz

that's what really counts in the end.

hugggggs

Carol

ps. no looking back, just forward

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

In a message dated 7/11/2004 8:58:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

You've both gave up so much material stuff to keep on going.....and I did

too....but hindsight is 20/20. Money down the drain. Anne, you said it best

" be

kinder to yourself " . I don't even want to count the hours I spent beating

myself up over the whole situation. It's depressing to look back and it

doesn't

do us any good....we learned a lesson from it....now onward we go, only by

letting it all go and being good to ourselves and forgiving ourselves and

knowing we did the best we could at the time.

I did that, too, Carol. I also asked myself if perhaps that was one of those

days that I shouldn't have gone to work. Had I done so, I'd be

well...........Oh well. I've realized that beating myself to death with

questions like

that does not change a single thing. The material part of it is irritating,

but

the business was me........as weird as that sounds. Oh well, we all

discovered another me.........I think......maybe :-) Anne

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne....I totally understand what you mean by the business being you.

Something you've put your heart and soul into....you probably felt like it

defined you. It's such a heartbreaking thing to have to just give it up. But

you know what? I really like the Anne you are now....and I'm betting a lot of

people on this forum feel the same way....and I'm hoping you love yourself cuz

that's what really counts in the end.

hugggggs

Carol

ps. no looking back, just forward

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

In a message dated 7/11/2004 8:58:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

You've both gave up so much material stuff to keep on going.....and I did

too....but hindsight is 20/20. Money down the drain. Anne, you said it best

" be

kinder to yourself " . I don't even want to count the hours I spent beating

myself up over the whole situation. It's depressing to look back and it

doesn't

do us any good....we learned a lesson from it....now onward we go, only by

letting it all go and being good to ourselves and forgiving ourselves and

knowing we did the best we could at the time.

I did that, too, Carol. I also asked myself if perhaps that was one of those

days that I shouldn't have gone to work. Had I done so, I'd be

well...........Oh well. I've realized that beating myself to death with

questions like

that does not change a single thing. The material part of it is irritating,

but

the business was me........as weird as that sounds. Oh well, we all

discovered another me.........I think......maybe :-) Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/2004 12:03:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

Hi Anne....I totally understand what you mean by the business being you.

Something you've put your heart and soul into....you probably felt like it

defined you. It's such a heartbreaking thing to have to just give it up. But

you

know what? I really like the Anne you are now....and I'm betting a lot of

people on this forum feel the same way....and I'm hoping you love yourself cuz

that's what really counts in the end.

Thanks Carol,

And you're right, it did define me. So there's a new me, now. Sometimes I

like this me and sometimes I'm not to proud of her, but I could have and did

say the same thing about the " old " me. If we didn't at least like ourselves, we

wouldn't be here. :-) Anne

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/2004 12:03:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, csean@...

writes:

Hi Anne....I totally understand what you mean by the business being you.

Something you've put your heart and soul into....you probably felt like it

defined you. It's such a heartbreaking thing to have to just give it up. But

you

know what? I really like the Anne you are now....and I'm betting a lot of

people on this forum feel the same way....and I'm hoping you love yourself cuz

that's what really counts in the end.

Thanks Carol,

And you're right, it did define me. So there's a new me, now. Sometimes I

like this me and sometimes I'm not to proud of her, but I could have and did

say the same thing about the " old " me. If we didn't at least like ourselves, we

wouldn't be here. :-) Anne

[Guest guest]

Me too <waving hand madly in the air>

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

I'm betting a lot of people on this forum feel the same way....

[Guest guest]

Me too <waving hand madly in the air>

Re: enzymes for digestion -Endoscopy + Insurance

I'm betting a lot of people on this forum feel the same way....