Re: Anyone from Texas - What is the vaccine climate like there?

July 9, 2008

Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you, threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is your right to deny vaccines. If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor 2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if your hub gets the transfer. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

July 9, 2008

Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you, threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is your right to deny vaccines. If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor 2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if your hub gets the transfer. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

July 10, 2008

Dear Ann, you are not a neglectful parent by taking action to protect your child against these unnecessary immunizations! Contact your county Health Department and obtain a "Religious Exemption" form. It costs anywhere from $10 to $25.00 and fill it out and then submit it back to them in person. Once you receive your original exemption "certificate," keep the original and store it in a safe place (NY is currently trying to pass a mandatory law for immunizations-so this may come in handy later-don't lose it) and always allow the schools to make copies of it. Most Health Departments handle the paper work for religious exemptions. By Federal law you are entitled to have your child exempted based on the religion you declare. You do not have to declare verbally or in writing any religion, but if you have to: Scientology and Christian science (2 very separate

and different religions) do not condone administering of drugs to the human body...This had worked for our family with no problems here in Nevada.. Hope this helps. HR s Ann Frosch <apiano.88grand@...> wrote: Hi! I'm new to posting, and hope that there is someone from Texas in this group that can help me with some questions I have.My family may be moving to Dallas, TX for a work opportunity for my husband. I currently live in NJ and am dealing with all the crazy

mandates here. I was wondering how difficult is it to file an exemption and how do "they" really feel about it. I noticed that when enrolling your child they mention something about an exemption but that you need to file papers with the state. I don't want to file anything that makes me look like a neglectful parent. I'm an informed parent that has the interests of my two children at heart.Any info would help thanks. Can post back here or email me direct.Thanks again in advance.

July 10, 2008

I don't know if you really meant to type the word immunizations..but

I think it has been discussed earlier in this group.. I believe that

Vaccinations is the more correct term for it..

Our bodies DON'T GAIN immunity by taking these vaccines.. The

vaccines rather..COMPROMISE our natural ability to become immune to

diseases and other bad things for our bodies..

> Hi! I'm new to posting, and hope that there is someone

from Texas in

> this group that can help me with some questions I have.

>

> My family may be moving to Dallas, TX for a work opportunity for my

> husband. I currently live in NJ and am dealing with all the crazy

> mandates here. I was wondering how difficult is it to file an

> exemption and how do " they " really feel about it.

>

> I noticed that when enrolling your child they mention something

about

> an exemption but that you need to file papers with the state. I

don't

> want to file anything that makes me look like a neglectful parent.

I'm

> an informed parent that has the interests of my two children at

heart.

>

> Any info would help thanks. Can post back here or email me direct.

>

> Thanks again in advance.

>

July 10, 2008

Hi Karla,

Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us

for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions,

something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching,

there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check

this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back

to bite me later on, especially at the state level.

I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when

they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.

Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to

share!!

Ann

>

> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all

three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when

transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you,

threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information

and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is

your right to deny vaccines.

> If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor

2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if

your hub gets the transfer.

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

> http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

>

> http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

>

July 10, 2008

Hi Karla,

Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us

for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions,

something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching,

there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check

this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back

to bite me later on, especially at the state level.

I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when

they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.

Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to

share!!

Ann

>

> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all

three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when

transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you,

threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information

and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is

your right to deny vaccines.

> If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor

2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if

your hub gets the transfer.

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

> http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

>

> http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/texas.htm

>

July 10, 2008

I am in texas, and I don't know yet, but Im not getting vaccinated for anything!!! If I step on a rusty nail, I don't care!!! We gotta start fighting back!!From: Ann Frosch <apiano.88grand@...>Subject: Re: Anyone from Texas - What is the vaccine climate like there?no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:57 PM

Hi Karla,

Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us

for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions,

something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching,

there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check

this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back

to bite me later on, especially at the state level.

I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when

they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.

Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to

share!!

Ann

>

> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all

three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when

transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you,

threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information

and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is

your right to deny vaccines.

> If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor

2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if

your hub gets the transfer.

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

> http://www.vaccinei nfo.net/exemptio ns/index. shtml

>

> http://www.vaclib. org/exempt/ texas.htm

>

July 10, 2008

I am in texas, and I don't know yet, but Im not getting vaccinated for anything!!! If I step on a rusty nail, I don't care!!! We gotta start fighting back!!From: Ann Frosch <apiano.88grand@...>Subject: Re: Anyone from Texas - What is the vaccine climate like there?no-forced-vaccination Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:57 PM

Hi Karla,

Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us

for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions,

something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching,

there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check

this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back

to bite me later on, especially at the state level.

I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when

they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.

Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to

share!!

Ann

>

> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all

three exemptions. Here is some info that might be helpful, esp. when

transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you,

threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information

and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is

your right to deny vaccines.

> If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor

2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if

your hub gets the transfer.

> Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

> http://www.vaccinei nfo.net/exemptio ns/index. shtml

>

> http://www.vaclib. org/exempt/ texas.htm

>

July 10, 2008

Dear Group:

Anyone needing information on the vaccine laws in Texas can view PROVE's website at http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

Vaccines are not mandatory in Texas (and many other states) provided you have the proper paperwork completed (ie. exemptions).

Anyone who wishes to exempt their child in Texas has that right and their child(ren) can still be afforded the opportunity to receive a public education.

All the information is available at PROVE's website on how to legally avoid vaccinations.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Todd M. Elsner1105 Chesapeake DriveMansfield, TX 76063PHONE: 817-657-5910FAX: 682-518-7563

From: Ann Frosch <apiano.88grand@ att.net>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Anyone from Texas - What is the vaccine climate like there?no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:57 PM

Hi Karla,Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions, something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching, there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back to bite me later on, especially at the state level. I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to share!!Ann>> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all three exemptions. Here is some info that

might be helpful, esp. when transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you, threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is your right to deny vaccines. > If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor 2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if your hub gets the transfer. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL> http://www.vaccinei nfo.net/exemptio ns/index. shtml> > http://www.vaclib. org/exempt/ texas.htm>

July 10, 2008

Dear Group:

Anyone needing information on the vaccine laws in Texas can view PROVE's website at http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml

Vaccines are not mandatory in Texas (and many other states) provided you have the proper paperwork completed (ie. exemptions).

Anyone who wishes to exempt their child in Texas has that right and their child(ren) can still be afforded the opportunity to receive a public education.

All the information is available at PROVE's website on how to legally avoid vaccinations.

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Todd M. Elsner1105 Chesapeake DriveMansfield, TX 76063PHONE: 817-657-5910FAX: 682-518-7563

From: Ann Frosch <apiano.88grand@ att.net>Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Anyone from Texas - What is the vaccine climate like there?no-forced-vaccinati ongroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:57 PM

Hi Karla,Thank you for your help with this. In doing research to prepare us for the possible move, I did see that Texas has all three exemptions, something that NJ does not. My concern was/is, when researching, there is a form to file with the state(I think -need to double check this one.). I'm a bit leary of filing something that may come back to bite me later on, especially at the state level. I feel as if I am dealing with my pediatrician all over again - when they want you sign that you are refusing a vacc.Again, thank you so much for your help. Everyone has great info to share!!Ann>> Hullo Ann. Not from Texas, but as you may know, TX now has all three exemptions. Here is some info that

might be helpful, esp. when transfering schools. If any of them coerse or threaten to deny you, threaten legal action. To many of them buffalo with bad information and wrongful threats. And dont feel like a neglectful parent. It is your right to deny vaccines. > If you have previous exemptions for any of your children, befor 2003, they may automatically be grandfathered. Best of luck, if your hub gets the transfer. > Glad Day ~ Karla in IL> http://www.vaccinei nfo.net/exemptio ns/index. shtml> > http://www.vaclib. org/exempt/ texas.htm>

July 10, 2008

Hullo Ann. You have to get a state form, not a handwritten one. It has to be turned back into the health dept. and copies to give to the school. I know you can download that form from the internet. I dont think there is any cost (not sure tho)/ I dont think there is anything incriminating in the state form, pretty basic. As far as the peds office, the AMA suggests the offices have you sign them, It is not a legal thing, usually office generated. You can refuse to sign them, or even cross out and initial anything on the forms you do not feel comfortable signing. Read you state vac exemption and it will tell you about these bogus office refusal forms. Just more HYPE! Know your rights and you wont feel so intimidated and coerced. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 10, 2008

Hullo Ann. You have to get a state form, not a handwritten one. It has to be turned back into the health dept. and copies to give to the school. I know you can download that form from the internet. I dont think there is any cost (not sure tho)/ I dont think there is anything incriminating in the state form, pretty basic. As far as the peds office, the AMA suggests the offices have you sign them, It is not a legal thing, usually office generated. You can refuse to sign them, or even cross out and initial anything on the forms you do not feel comfortable signing. Read you state vac exemption and it will tell you about these bogus office refusal forms. Just more HYPE! Know your rights and you wont feel so intimidated and coerced. Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

July 10, 2008

Hi HR,

Thanks for your response. I am definitely going to keep in the back

of my mind the things you mentioned. I may need that for arsenal

later.

Texas, fortunately has all three exemptions, something that NJ

currently does not have and we are fighting very hard to obtain. I

guess I am just leary of the fact that, I think - I need to double

check this one again, when you file the exemption they require you to

file at the state level. Again, I think I may be wrong. This is

where I need some Texas folks for clarification. My Texas friends

all vacc their kids, so, I'm out-of-luck there for their help.

I don't want to sign something at the state level that can be later

used against me for whatever crazy reason they decide. Call it

paranoid, but I just don't have much faith in the so called " powers-

that-be " .

In NJ you write a letter and file it with the school at the beginning

of the school year. Asking for the exemption from the state sounds

like they are trying to keep tabs on you.

I appreciate you and the time you took to provide with some great

info.

Thanks again,

Ann

> Hi! I'm new to posting, and hope that there is someone

from Texas in

> this group that can help me with some questions I have.

>

> My family may be moving to Dallas, TX for a work opportunity for my

> husband. I currently live in NJ and am dealing with all the crazy

> mandates here. I was wondering how difficult is it to file an

> exemption and how do " they " really feel about it.

>

> I noticed that when enrolling your child they mention something

about

> an exemption but that you need to file papers with the state. I

don't

> want to file anything that makes me look like a neglectful parent.

I'm

> an informed parent that has the interests of my two children at

heart.

>

> Any info would help thanks. Can post back here or email me direct.

>

> Thanks again in advance.

>

July 10, 2008