RE: vaccination and pets

[Guest guest]

There were a number of posts about pets and vaccinations earlier this year. It must have been the end of April or May or June. You might want to see if you can find them by checking archives. I'd have to do a good deal of digging to find them; and unfortunately I don't have the time to do the digging at this point. I'm extremely busy canning, freezing and otherwise processing fruits and vegetables for the upcoming year; and for making jams, Apple Butter and chutney during the winter months.

Please excuse my skepticism and cynicism, but are you sure the vet didn't combine all the vaccines into one shot the way they do with children?

~~Ruth/REU

vaccination and pets

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

There were a number of posts about pets and vaccinations earlier this year. It must have been the end of April or May or June. You might want to see if you can find them by checking archives. I'd have to do a good deal of digging to find them; and unfortunately I don't have the time to do the digging at this point. I'm extremely busy canning, freezing and otherwise processing fruits and vegetables for the upcoming year; and for making jams, Apple Butter and chutney during the winter months.

Please excuse my skepticism and cynicism, but are you sure the vet didn't combine all the vaccines into one shot the way they do with children?

~~Ruth/REU

vaccination and pets

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

There were a number of posts about pets and vaccinations earlier this year. It must have been the end of April or May or June. You might want to see if you can find them by checking archives. I'd have to do a good deal of digging to find them; and unfortunately I don't have the time to do the digging at this point. I'm extremely busy canning, freezing and otherwise processing fruits and vegetables for the upcoming year; and for making jams, Apple Butter and chutney during the winter months.

Please excuse my skepticism and cynicism, but are you sure the vet didn't combine all the vaccines into one shot the way they do with children?

~~Ruth/REU

vaccination and pets

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

There were a number of posts about pets and vaccinations earlier this year. It must have been the end of April or May or June. You might want to see if you can find them by checking archives. I'd have to do a good deal of digging to find them; and unfortunately I don't have the time to do the digging at this point. I'm extremely busy canning, freezing and otherwise processing fruits and vegetables for the upcoming year; and for making jams, Apple Butter and chutney during the winter months.

Please excuse my skepticism and cynicism, but are you sure the vet didn't combine all the vaccines into one shot the way they do with children?

~~Ruth/REU

vaccination and pets

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

He cannot " demand " shots. Some vets won't board an animal without a

Kennel Cough or a Parvo vaccine, and these can come bundled with other

vaccines, but I suspect all you have to do is tell the vet you don't

want any vaccines given. You can ease the matter by telling your vet

(sorry - this is a lie) that your dog had seizures following previous

vaccines, and you therefore only maintain the rabies.

He (or she) should not and probably will not ever give a shot without

your permission (more for financial reasons than conscience, probably).

Best,

t

On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:46 PM, janiceschmittou wrote:

> I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

> pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

> give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

> weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the

> vet

> (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

> have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

> vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

> on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

> what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He cannot " demand " shots. Some vets won't board an animal without a

Kennel Cough or a Parvo vaccine, and these can come bundled with other

vaccines, but I suspect all you have to do is tell the vet you don't

want any vaccines given. You can ease the matter by telling your vet

(sorry - this is a lie) that your dog had seizures following previous

vaccines, and you therefore only maintain the rabies.

He (or she) should not and probably will not ever give a shot without

your permission (more for financial reasons than conscience, probably).

Best,

t

On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:46 PM, janiceschmittou wrote:

> I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

> pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

> give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

> weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the

> vet

> (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

> have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

> vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

> on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

> what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He cannot " demand " shots. Some vets won't board an animal without a

Kennel Cough or a Parvo vaccine, and these can come bundled with other

vaccines, but I suspect all you have to do is tell the vet you don't

want any vaccines given. You can ease the matter by telling your vet

(sorry - this is a lie) that your dog had seizures following previous

vaccines, and you therefore only maintain the rabies.

He (or she) should not and probably will not ever give a shot without

your permission (more for financial reasons than conscience, probably).

Best,

t

On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:46 PM, janiceschmittou wrote:

> I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

> pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

> give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

> weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the

> vet

> (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

> have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

> vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

> on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

> what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He cannot " demand " shots. Some vets won't board an animal without a

Kennel Cough or a Parvo vaccine, and these can come bundled with other

vaccines, but I suspect all you have to do is tell the vet you don't

want any vaccines given. You can ease the matter by telling your vet

(sorry - this is a lie) that your dog had seizures following previous

vaccines, and you therefore only maintain the rabies.

He (or she) should not and probably will not ever give a shot without

your permission (more for financial reasons than conscience, probably).

Best,

t

On Aug 19, 2008, at 1:46 PM, janiceschmittou wrote:

> I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

> pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

> give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

> weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the

> vet

> (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

> have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

> vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

> on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

> what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hullo Janice. We have talk about this a bit in the past too. As same for humans, vaccines for pets and animals is just as horrible. What is the sense of Kicking a dog when they are down. Giving a toxic loaded vaccine when an animal is at its lowest, sick, hurt or shocked, is just about the worst thing I can think of at the moment. Believe you me, humans are not the only species they are trying to population contol! $$$$$$$4 Anyway, there are some very good places on the net, about pet vaccine danger. I can start you off with one, but you will learn a lot in your own searching. If they Demand vaccines, for any reason, Demand a titer for them. Only rabies are legally mandated. The rest are up to YOU to decide. Many Unvaccinated pets are known to have immunities and titers from their vaccinated parents and grandparents, several Litters before them. And even first time baby shots for pets, with no further vaccines,

have been known to still show titer 17 years later! Vaccines for pets is right up there in the Money trail, even if yer Vet is a really Nice Person. Keep pets away from the Dr. toooooo. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petvacc.htm Glad Day ~ Karla in IL

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad your dog is okay! Hope someone has the info you are looking for.............

--Love, Hugs, & God bless! Pat ) pat_507@... "The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you." Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "janiceschmittou" <janiceschmittou@...>

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad your dog is okay! Hope someone has the info you are looking for.............

--Love, Hugs, & God bless! Pat ) pat_507@... "The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you." Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "janiceschmittou" <janiceschmittou@...>

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad your dog is okay! Hope someone has the info you are looking for.............

--Love, Hugs, & God bless! Pat ) pat_507@... "The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you." Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "janiceschmittou" <janiceschmittou@...>

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad your dog is okay! Hope someone has the info you are looking for.............

--Love, Hugs, & God bless! Pat ) pat_507@... "The Will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you." Don't tell God how big your troubles are---tell your troubles HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS!!

-------------- Original message -------------- From: "janiceschmittou" <janiceschmittou@...>

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

[Guest guest]

Hello, Janice!I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!Viviane=========On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.  =====In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

[Guest guest]

Hello, Janice!I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!Viviane=========On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.  =====In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

[Guest guest]

Hello, Janice!I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!Viviane=========On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.  =====In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

[Guest guest]

Hello, Janice!I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!Viviane=========On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.  =====In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.

[Guest guest]

First of all, your vet is in no position and has no RIGHT whatsoever to

DEMAND anything. You are the pet owner, i.e. the client, you are paying the

vet for his services and any vet having the nerve to vaccinate an injured

animal is incompetent, unethical and should go back to vet school where they

are taught to never ever vaccinate a sick or injured animal. Secondly, pet

vaccination protocols have been changed and annual " booster " shots, which

" boost " nothing whatsoever, are no longer recommended. According to Dr.

Schulz and Dr. Dodds, who is currently conducting the " rabies challenge

study " , the " puppy and kitten shots " provide immunity for at least 7 years

if not for the lifetime of the animal. French scientists already established

in the mid-nineties that the rabies shot provides immunity for at least 5

years (or longer), but the FDA refused to recognize the study (for obvious

$$$$ reasons). I fell into the trap of the annual brainwashing exercise,

i.e. warning in our newspaper of yet another rabies outbreak in our area,

and wanted to " protect " my dog - with devastating consequences. My beautiful

German Shepherd girl developed a fibrosarcoma, which spread from the

vaccination site to her shoulder and breastbone and in November 2004 I had

to say good bye to my soulmate. Vets will also tell you that only cats get

fibrosarcomas from vaccinations (another lie!), that's why they prefer to

vaccinate cats in their legs now because it's easier to amputate a leg. None

of my dogs will ever be vaccinated again. Screw the law!

http://www.critteradvocacy.org/

Ingrid

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet

(has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

First of all, your vet is in no position and has no RIGHT whatsoever to

DEMAND anything. You are the pet owner, i.e. the client, you are paying the

vet for his services and any vet having the nerve to vaccinate an injured

animal is incompetent, unethical and should go back to vet school where they

are taught to never ever vaccinate a sick or injured animal. Secondly, pet

vaccination protocols have been changed and annual " booster " shots, which

" boost " nothing whatsoever, are no longer recommended. According to Dr.

Schulz and Dr. Dodds, who is currently conducting the " rabies challenge

study " , the " puppy and kitten shots " provide immunity for at least 7 years

if not for the lifetime of the animal. French scientists already established

in the mid-nineties that the rabies shot provides immunity for at least 5

years (or longer), but the FDA refused to recognize the study (for obvious

$$$$ reasons). I fell into the trap of the annual brainwashing exercise,

i.e. warning in our newspaper of yet another rabies outbreak in our area,

and wanted to " protect " my dog - with devastating consequences. My beautiful

German Shepherd girl developed a fibrosarcoma, which spread from the

vaccination site to her shoulder and breastbone and in November 2004 I had

to say good bye to my soulmate. Vets will also tell you that only cats get

fibrosarcomas from vaccinations (another lie!), that's why they prefer to

vaccinate cats in their legs now because it's easier to amputate a leg. None

of my dogs will ever be vaccinated again. Screw the law!

http://www.critteradvocacy.org/

Ingrid

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet

(has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

First of all, your vet is in no position and has no RIGHT whatsoever to

DEMAND anything. You are the pet owner, i.e. the client, you are paying the

vet for his services and any vet having the nerve to vaccinate an injured

animal is incompetent, unethical and should go back to vet school where they

are taught to never ever vaccinate a sick or injured animal. Secondly, pet

vaccination protocols have been changed and annual " booster " shots, which

" boost " nothing whatsoever, are no longer recommended. According to Dr.

Schulz and Dr. Dodds, who is currently conducting the " rabies challenge

study " , the " puppy and kitten shots " provide immunity for at least 7 years

if not for the lifetime of the animal. French scientists already established

in the mid-nineties that the rabies shot provides immunity for at least 5

years (or longer), but the FDA refused to recognize the study (for obvious

$$$$ reasons). I fell into the trap of the annual brainwashing exercise,

i.e. warning in our newspaper of yet another rabies outbreak in our area,

and wanted to " protect " my dog - with devastating consequences. My beautiful

German Shepherd girl developed a fibrosarcoma, which spread from the

vaccination site to her shoulder and breastbone and in November 2004 I had

to say good bye to my soulmate. Vets will also tell you that only cats get

fibrosarcomas from vaccinations (another lie!), that's why they prefer to

vaccinate cats in their legs now because it's easier to amputate a leg. None

of my dogs will ever be vaccinated again. Screw the law!

http://www.critteradvocacy.org/

Ingrid

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet

(has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

First of all, your vet is in no position and has no RIGHT whatsoever to

DEMAND anything. You are the pet owner, i.e. the client, you are paying the

vet for his services and any vet having the nerve to vaccinate an injured

animal is incompetent, unethical and should go back to vet school where they

are taught to never ever vaccinate a sick or injured animal. Secondly, pet

vaccination protocols have been changed and annual " booster " shots, which

" boost " nothing whatsoever, are no longer recommended. According to Dr.

Schulz and Dr. Dodds, who is currently conducting the " rabies challenge

study " , the " puppy and kitten shots " provide immunity for at least 7 years

if not for the lifetime of the animal. French scientists already established

in the mid-nineties that the rabies shot provides immunity for at least 5

years (or longer), but the FDA refused to recognize the study (for obvious

$$$$ reasons). I fell into the trap of the annual brainwashing exercise,

i.e. warning in our newspaper of yet another rabies outbreak in our area,

and wanted to " protect " my dog - with devastating consequences. My beautiful

German Shepherd girl developed a fibrosarcoma, which spread from the

vaccination site to her shoulder and breastbone and in November 2004 I had

to say good bye to my soulmate. Vets will also tell you that only cats get

fibrosarcomas from vaccinations (another lie!), that's why they prefer to

vaccinate cats in their legs now because it's easier to amputate a leg. None

of my dogs will ever be vaccinated again. Screw the law!

http://www.critteradvocacy.org/

Ingrid

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and

pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only

give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few

weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet

(has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would

have to " bring her shots up to date " then later, when talking to the

vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me

on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned

what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

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[Guest guest]

Another thing, if you take your animal for a spay or any other surgery, tell the vet in no uncertain terms that under no circumstances will you allow them to give your dog a pre-op RIMADYL injection - without your knowledge and consent! They will come up with the usual broken-record blah, blah "that you must not believe everything you read on the Internet". However, 30,000 dead dogs (in the U.S. alone) - and that is only an estimate - speak for themselves. Rimadyl, Pfizer's deadly "wonder" drug, which initially was developed as a human drug and then shelved because of its high liver toxicity (causes liver, kidney failure and internal bleeding), was then reinvented as a canine drug. Even the FDA, after having been swamped with thousands of adverse reactions and fatalities reports, declared it as a potent drug and vets are mandated to provide clients with the client information sheet, outlining the many adverse reactions of the drug. The newer NSAIDs (non-steroid-anti-inflammatory drugs), such as Deramaxx, Zubrin, Previcox, Metacam, etc. aren't any "better" and fall into the same category as Vioxx. Please be careful! There are so many safer alternatives providing pain relief.

Ingrid

Hello, Janice!

I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]

Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.

But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]

I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!

Viviane

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

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Another thing, if you take your animal for a spay or any other surgery, tell the vet in no uncertain terms that under no circumstances will you allow them to give your dog a pre-op RIMADYL injection - without your knowledge and consent! They will come up with the usual broken-record blah, blah "that you must not believe everything you read on the Internet". However, 30,000 dead dogs (in the U.S. alone) - and that is only an estimate - speak for themselves. Rimadyl, Pfizer's deadly "wonder" drug, which initially was developed as a human drug and then shelved because of its high liver toxicity (causes liver, kidney failure and internal bleeding), was then reinvented as a canine drug. Even the FDA, after having been swamped with thousands of adverse reactions and fatalities reports, declared it as a potent drug and vets are mandated to provide clients with the client information sheet, outlining the many adverse reactions of the drug. The newer NSAIDs (non-steroid-anti-inflammatory drugs), such as Deramaxx, Zubrin, Previcox, Metacam, etc. aren't any "better" and fall into the same category as Vioxx. Please be careful! There are so many safer alternatives providing pain relief.

Ingrid

Hello, Janice!

I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]

Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.

But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]

I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!

Viviane

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

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Another thing, if you take your animal for a spay or any other surgery, tell the vet in no uncertain terms that under no circumstances will you allow them to give your dog a pre-op RIMADYL injection - without your knowledge and consent! They will come up with the usual broken-record blah, blah "that you must not believe everything you read on the Internet". However, 30,000 dead dogs (in the U.S. alone) - and that is only an estimate - speak for themselves. Rimadyl, Pfizer's deadly "wonder" drug, which initially was developed as a human drug and then shelved because of its high liver toxicity (causes liver, kidney failure and internal bleeding), was then reinvented as a canine drug. Even the FDA, after having been swamped with thousands of adverse reactions and fatalities reports, declared it as a potent drug and vets are mandated to provide clients with the client information sheet, outlining the many adverse reactions of the drug. The newer NSAIDs (non-steroid-anti-inflammatory drugs), such as Deramaxx, Zubrin, Previcox, Metacam, etc. aren't any "better" and fall into the same category as Vioxx. Please be careful! There are so many safer alternatives providing pain relief.

Ingrid

Hello, Janice!

I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]

Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.

But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]

I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!

Viviane

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

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[Guest guest]

Another thing, if you take your animal for a spay or any other surgery, tell the vet in no uncertain terms that under no circumstances will you allow them to give your dog a pre-op RIMADYL injection - without your knowledge and consent! They will come up with the usual broken-record blah, blah "that you must not believe everything you read on the Internet". However, 30,000 dead dogs (in the U.S. alone) - and that is only an estimate - speak for themselves. Rimadyl, Pfizer's deadly "wonder" drug, which initially was developed as a human drug and then shelved because of its high liver toxicity (causes liver, kidney failure and internal bleeding), was then reinvented as a canine drug. Even the FDA, after having been swamped with thousands of adverse reactions and fatalities reports, declared it as a potent drug and vets are mandated to provide clients with the client information sheet, outlining the many adverse reactions of the drug. The newer NSAIDs (non-steroid-anti-inflammatory drugs), such as Deramaxx, Zubrin, Previcox, Metacam, etc. aren't any "better" and fall into the same category as Vioxx. Please be careful! There are so many safer alternatives providing pain relief.

Ingrid

Hello, Janice!

I know the problem first-hand, and the only solution I have been able to come up with is to look for a *homeopathic vet* as close to where you live as possible [mine is a 5 hrs. away, and I still go to her when need be!]

Over all, the only times when I might go to a conventional vet is when I adopt a cat and s/he has to be spayed. And, before I found the regular vet to do it, I called every single vet in the area asking them how they proceeded [there are ways that are more humane than others, for sure] and whether they required vaccinations [most do, or they'll vaccinate at the same time they spay]. Find the rare ones who don't.

But *by far* the best solution is to connect with a homeopathic vet. [but then, homeopathy has always been my first choice when it comes to health and healing, and never more so than when we talk vaccinations....]

I hope you can find a good solution, long live your dog!

Viviane

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:46 AM, janiceschmittou wrote:

I was wondering what advice anyone would have about vaccination and pets. I've never heard of an exemption for them and normally I only give a rabies shot--seems easier to do than go against the law. A few weeks ago my dog was hit by a car and had to spend the night at the vet (has a broken leg but will be fine). At first I was told that I would have to "bring her shots up to date" then later, when talking to the vet about the fee, he said only one shot. Since he was working with me on the fee/healing her I didn't object to the shot but I was concerned what I would do if he had demanded many shots.

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In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.http://www.eset.com